The inside story on one of high school football's most controversial coaches | OTL
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- The inside story on one of high school football's most controversial coaches | OTL
Mark Schlabach joins Jeremy Schaap on Outside the Lines and weighs in on Michael “Nub” Nelson’s secretly recorded conversation with Valdosta high school head coach Rush Propst that was leaked online alleging that Alabama and Georgia pay recruits to sign with them. Schlabach also discusses Propst being put on leave with Valdosta over allegations that he arranged improper benefits.
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0:00 Jeremy Schaap tells the story of controversial high school football coach Rush Propst.
3:55 Outside the Lines shares Propst’s leaked conversation with Michael Nelson.
5:18 Mark Schlabach weighs in on Propst being on leave with Valdosta over allegations he arranged improper benefits.
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0:00 Jeremy Schaap tells the story of controversial high school football coach Rush Propst.
3:55 Outside the Lines shares Propst’s leaked conversation with Michael Nelson.
5:18 Mark Schlabach weighs in on Propst being on leave with Valdosta over allegations he arranged improper benefits.
Isnt recording someone without there knowledge illegal? So why are u sharing recordings that are illegal
@@chadwydo2921 It depends on the state. Some states require both parties to a private conversation to consent. Others only require one party---presumably, the recorder--to consent. Georgia only requires one party to consent, like most states.
He lost his job for having two families? Most people can't support one
Yeaaaaaa im crying
That's why he needed that money
The fact is it was a double life and lost respect and trust.
There was an issue with grades being changed so some football players could remain eligible to play. Propst and the principal both lost their jobs.
It is Hoover Alabama very conservative place
Anyone remember first seeing him on MTV's old show "two a days?"
Shame. I loved that show
Yeah i do god
@@JohnSmith-nj9nh same. the second season was even better than the first imo. they should release that on dvd too
Loved the Angels and Airwaves theme song!
Loved that show!
Propst is a great coach and I played for him for 2 years at Hoover and honestly I don't see anything wrong with what he saying here. This has been rampant in college football and high school football for years
A football coach handing out narcotic medications to youth players is extremely dangerous, not to mention highly illegal. Not only should he have been immediately fired, but also arrested and criminally charged.
people are oblivious to it.
@@jrwheeler81 wake up. it happens. players play injured. it happens at every level. in my 6th grade youth league my coach bought out star hb a 2k pig lard brace. and fed him tylenol 3s before games. it just happens. at those elite high schools, the transgressions are far more serious. you pick out a team in the friday night lights football towns who accomplished anything. and that team had payoffs, coaching staff being paid to influence students toward certain schools, drugs and alot of education overlooking
@@soulfly3438 just cuz it happens doesnt mean its not illegal
@@jrwheeler81 It turned out to he advil
That stuff been going on for years.....nothing new here !!!!
I’m shocked by this. The SEC is shady AF!?! Who would have thought such a thing?
One day in the 1870's, some students at Yale took a ball outside to kick around. Fifteen minutes later there were scholarship scandals and athletics violations.
I’m from Hoover Alabama. This guy had coaches administering steroids to his players all the way back then. He’s not lying.
I played football for Jeff Davis High School out of Montgomery. In 2002, my junior year we matched up with Hoover in the 6A State Finals. I couldn't believe the size, speed, and strength of some of those guys on the football team.
I wonder if it has changed under Josh Niblett. He seems like a good guy, but who knows. Seems like Hoover has been good but not quite AS good as under Propst. Other teams like Thompson have closed the gap a bit.
I had heard it was painkillers too. But steroids wouldn’t surprise me either with this nutcase .
Now I’m 30 I can say this is true I played from 04-08 I was his last class he coached in 08 he didn’t give us no steroids tho that’s cap but everything else is true
He kind of reminds me of a real life John Voight from Varsity Blues. High school football coaches always seem to have a shady and righteous side.
So basically Propst should’ve went to Texas to coach because they get paid 6 figures to coach high school football
high 6 figures lol
He was making $140k when he was at Colquitt.
I was about to say... plenty of GA and Bama hs football coaches making 6 figures. I agree too about Texas, high 6 figures there plus the coach has his own TV Show reviewing each weeks game!!
Plus....(idk how it is in Ga/Bama) H.S coaches in Texas (the TOP ones) barely even teach classes. They are there to coach football, primarily. And, some of the Texas Stadiums are better than a lot of the smaller schools.
@@slyderkmk6729 most are named athletic director of the school and/or school district (if there's only one High School) to get the high 6 figure salaries.
It’s so annoying to see ESPN (reporters) to act like they don’t know players get paid under the table. Literally anyone who knows really good athletes knows this happens. Pointless story
He loses his job opportunity because he was a father to two homes, smh
No..programs could care less follow the money
Yeah I don’t get that either. Wasn’t abusive to either wife, I don’t see the problem
This is funny and all but as soon as they try to paint the players as criminals I’m out. A 17-19 year old kid taking money he needs (and should be able to take, anyway) is not wrong.
Joseph, I agree with you 100%. If you contribute to bringing in millions why not get paid something. All the people who say, “ but their education is paid for” must not have gone to college. There are people with degrees who are barely getting by. This isn’t the 90s, back when a degree mattered. Chubb deserved to get paid. I’m not a fan of GA but I watched Chubb and Gurley every weekend. Not bc of GA, bc of greatness.
110% agree.
That just shows how greedy these programs are while the president, athletic director, and coachs are making big bank
Well even though you don’t agree with it the rule says they can’t take money...
@@DeepInfernoRising So what? It’s a stupid rule. IMO the people who enforce that rule are the criminals. The NCAA and universities steal from their athletes all the time and we’re supposed to think they’re the good guys because kids break a rule that they invented? It’s a racket. “Oh, well gee, a rule’s a rule, and THEY ARE breaking a rule. I guess we’re just gonna have to keep all that money they earned and vilify them for breaking that rule.” Where do they get off making up rules that benefit only themselves and why are we stupid enough to go along with their BS?
At the end of the day Rush Propst will always get a chance to coach somewhere because of his success. Schools will look over the other stuff because he has won everywhere he’s been
Just like clemson does lol
Future Oxford High School Coach in Alabama
Him and his kids are living in Piedmont Alabama now
@@bamafan5099 on my team lmao
If you think he’s lying you are naive
His wife would probably say you’re naive to believe him
Which one of his wife's?
Ask his wife if he's lies any 🙄
People these college coaches are paying players to come to these schools
@@adefay2811 hahaha hilarious comment, underrated
Valdosta was doing this back when I was in HS offering houses and jobs to parents. This was back in the early 90s.
I'm from Michigan..But I had some cousins playing for Coffee High around early to mid 90s
I’ve heard this rumor for years
My dad got offered an apt to live in and go to Valdosta hs in the late 80s no lie but his parents wouldn’t let him go lol
Facts.
@@tonydunnom7036 I graduated from coffee high .. Go Trojans lol
I swear coach Propst reminds me of coach Bud Kilmer from the movie Varsity Blues. Especially when he first lost Jake to being ineligible. lol
They got to make a movie about Coach Proust!!
They are doing another “two a days” type show of this past season of him and his team
Suri C, they did. It's called Varsity Blues.
Yay, f*ck him! So glad he left Moultrie
Come on now smh we all know big time recruits get paid
they are talking like this is new lol yeah we been knew
Naaah but Georgia is just bad at hiding it
Yup
Right, and they should be
He did two a days in real life 😂
If it makes Alabama & Georgia feel any better, Florida has been doing this consistently since the Wilbur Marshall days. It’s just the way of the more football-competitive SEC schools. Cam & his Dad got almost a cool million from Auburn.
Alabama has been paying players for decades. Stop talking about Cam
@@joeyricefried9621 😭 wahhhhh. Literally no evidence of Alabama doing it since they went on probation the last time. If you Google who has been on ncaa probations for paying player the most guess who’s finally #1 in the state of Alabama? That would be the barn, aka auburn.
@@louieo.blevinsmusic4197 every major university does this, some are just better than others at it.
NCAA needs to give Alabama the death penalty. Bama makes 1980s SMU look like saints
@@corajohnson3617 *hears Gin Blossoms’ “Hey Jealousy” playing in the background.
I believe him about Nick saban. I just watched the Najee Harris story yesterday. He went from poor living standards to his mother moving to Alabama once he committed to the school, right ? How’s that possible if nobody’s pockets were filled. I understand it. Big businesses have free spending accounts. 🤷🏾♂️
Dude where have you been this been going on for years.
@@Donnell91 I know it has been going on just plain as day on that one
The parents get a good paying job & their kids get a good education. It would be reall hard to prove anything illegal about it. High schools do it too.
It's weird because the NCAA just turns it's head the other way on certain schools. You have like Jeremy Pruitt who gets busted and then other coaches don't. I assume now the NIL wll just create a legal method to funnel whatever money and benefits these school boosters need to secure top recruits.
Josh jacobs was homeless
Who remembers “God damnit repeat!” From two a days?
Haha I do now!
Repeat Smith
@@chrisbirenbaum1103 yessir
"What is it like having two families"
"No different than having one..."
WOW, this dude has serious issues.....
That happened with an over the road truck driver I knew, when he died his wife came in were he worked and needed info, couple days later the 2nd wife came in and needed the same info, 2 wives 2 family's one in Baltimore and one in Dallas TX.
Rush Propst is 21st century Bud Kilmer!
I care about Bud Kilmers 23rd district title
I believe it! Makes no sense why Chubb would stay another year.
It goes on in hs football all the time u really think they get top players yr in and out without recruiting
So Nick Chubb chose $180,000 over millions? That doesn’t even sound right.
I think Chubb said about the same thing.
@@reginaldhall6871 Like where’s the logic in that lol.
Never understand how much money is involved in high school football here in the uk it’s completely different
Our football players wear pads, not shin guards.
@@josephvanhorn5347 yes very funny I mean here “high” school sports might get a crowd of 10-40 people mostly family members at an local park pitch , in america you play the state finals at nfl or college stadium
@@josephvanhorn5347 [laughs in Rugby]
@@twonumber22 Rugby sucks. Football has the highest hits
Cause y'alls football is soccer. We get 10 to 40 people to watch hs soccer here too. Lol
I don't think that Propst is lying at all. This has been going on for decades and it will be under a bigger microscope now.
Bama and Georgia both are big time programs that continues to bring big money to the NCAA. The NCAA will continue to turn there heads about what's going on in Tuscaloosa and Athens.
How many of Alabama’s National Championships under Nick Saban were because they paid high school recruits? All of them.
This guy is the real life "Bud" Kilmer from "Varsity Blues." They also look exactly alike (Probst and the actor Jon Voight.)
Thought the same thing
Rush Propst is hated by many, but that is exactly why he gets run out of these programs...Alan rodemaker paid for players' summer school and had transfers come from out of state too.. when he was at Valdosta....all this stuff is on the NFL network docuseries..... no forfeits, no one ruled ineligible, no disciplinary action by the GHSAA.
Mark Richt would never have allowed this to happen when he was at Georgia
Two a days was LITTTTT
Ong
OMM
Kirbys elevated Georgia to exactly the same place as Mark Richt had them. Dive into the numbers.
So, Kirby has done nothing? Got it.
It's gotten really hard for Valdosta since there are so many powerhouses in the Atlanta area. You also have the private schools that recruit these high profile athletes.
The big money and jobs for parents of recruits are in Metro Atlanta. Valdosta not the only school playing that game anymore
The intro looks like a video from the 90’s
Shii ik a crackhead wen I see one nothing going on here 😂
Coach PROPST was just talkin to get💰out of the Booster Club (multi-millionaires galore) & I DON'T blame Him. It's apparent, Coach KNEW how much The Club was worth. It's not illegal.
Every recruit and high school coach carries a recorder (on their phone). If you're a college coach regularly committing these violations, you'll be recorded and replayed on ESPN. Also, as soon as an athlete gets vexed with you, you're at his mercy. It would be better to lose a game or two and build in a legit way. Win the game of life.
And as of 2021 it's a moot point. Players can score any financial deal they wish.
You may not like it but he ain't lying. Sports is dirty and if you want to win you gotta play the game off the field.
I remember attending the annual coaching clinic at Alabama in 2005 where high school coaching staffs from all over both GA and Alabama would attend. Probst was speaking on day two. but on Friday and sat night all the high school coached were fed BBQ and beer. it was a great time. I remember sitting with the staff from Vestavia Hills and they all talking about how much they all hated Propst. They said he was very hard to work for, and drove his staff like a slave driver.
Vestavia hates Hoover because Hoover beats them about 90% of the time.
NUB is the real program.killer at Valdosta. Hes jealous , and a hater of Coach Propst since his arrival
I love how the institutions that claim the most moral high ground are always the worst.
Clemson under Dabo? Wolf in sheep’s clothing.
@@Mark-sj3xb oh for sure the Dabo fallout will be epic.
It's Caul-quitt County not COLE-quitt County
Bruh had two whole families. That’s crazy.
He’s probably telling the truth about Alabama and Georgia lol
Absolutely he is lol
@Zach Moore lmao I bet you tell yourself that every night
@Zach Moore lmaooooooooo
He may be telling the truth, but it's obvious he's got a long history of lying so it's hard to believe him
This man's ego has stolen his soul. Seems narcissistic to me
It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if those statements made were true. No doubt big schools pay for players to come play at their schools.
Valdosta been paying players. They bought my cousin a brand new F150 and gave him and his mom money to help with their bills. I seen it with my own eyes. If high schools do colleges definitely do it.
SEC~ It ain’t easy being greasy
lol @ 2 sec powerhouses "self investigating and report to the ncaa"
Propst gave us in Colquitt County some twighlight days with how good he had our Packers.
yep, sold your soul
@@2bigbufords how so. A lot of guys went to school for free
@@718ant5 winning without integrity is not a noble endeavor. Those kids would have gotten scholarships without that sleezebag coach
@@2bigbufords not always. Most high school coaches have zero clout.
If I were looking to build a winning program, I'd hire Rush Propst in a heartbeat. The man knows how to win. He can turn a ragtag group of miscreants into a lean, mean, championship-winning machine.
Say what you want about him, but that man can coach!
Who is here after title town high
The dude with one arm and the coach had beef during the show so it doesn’t surprise me that the one armed guy was snitching on him.
The guy that made the recording just wants to run the program …. Upset that he is not the coach …..
Exactly. You can see that in the Netflix show that features Valdosta High.
it’s Titletown High on netflix
The mighty John Curtis patrots from my neck of the woods stopped him at hoover from winning a national championship one year. That's all we heard those guys were going to show us how "buck football " was played. We took there heart and soul that night.
?
I remember John Curtis going in there as an underdog and beating the spit out of Hoover. Joe Mcknight was the star player for Curtis.
I never saw a nasty set of fans than those hoover idiots. Scoreboard baby.
John Curtis forfeit a state title a few years ago for recruiting.
Rush is an all time HS football coaching great!! Love or hate him, the man IS A WINNER!! There will ALWAYS be someone out there who is BEGGING for someone like Rush to come along!!
You fail to understand he wouldn’t be winning with the kids from the district, if he wasn’t paying families to illegally move into the district, big difference. Just another coach
@@spartyone2404 winning is winning...
@@braxtonmarcus1133 easy their cheater
Thanks, ESPN for Blowing the Lid on Rush Propst's Actions because he should have never been considered otherwise for Valdosta and the Propst Year will haunt Valdosta nationally because they've always had National News Problems with their coach, too.
Here’s the deal when it comes to people doing a proper investigation and it could cost them there job they will not do it correctly
So...um...if you're passing off controlled substances to multiple teenagers, shouldn't you be in ... um ... prison?
The guy recording him was just as shady.
It’s a little different than having one. 😂 😂
Anyone notice the paintings in the back ground?
Whatever happnd to the two a days show?
So this man got fired after winning championships for having 2 families then fired for probably giving his player a aspirin or ibuprofen then trying help players an they family out how is that controversial smdh
It wasn’t aspirin or ibuprofen. And he probably didn’t do it, he did. He sold his soul to the devil a long time ago.
lol nice spin
@@AlphaDwg can spin the truth.
@@bamajesse4608 I did say probably
Because your supposed to win with kids in your district. Those are the rules . How ever. Nobody wants to play by the rules or laws . So the programs who are playing by the rules get demolished by those who are not . Cheating the kids in that district.
Honestly I played for one of the best HS in my state under one of the most legendary HCs. This has in HS and College, kids families get “help” with housing and everything.
1:31 😂😂😂
Propst should never be able to coach highschool kids EVER!
This is one of the true things Rush ever said. Sad thing is that the “enforcer” (NCAA) was nowhere to be found in all of this. The whole thing was/is crooked
You see how winning over rides morals , says a lot about the people that hire him
Lol. That’s just means he wasn’t able to afford the top lawyers.
I remember the Netflix series on Valdosta is 2020
Luv those apologies
Ole boy this gonna be bad if somebody start investigating 🔎this
Oh it’s 100% true
It would have to be the IRS. NCAA doesnt have the teeth to do anything.
Now he’s in pell city just signed onto coach the football team
I just watched the Netflix show, this guy is all about me. If they win its bc he's a great coach, but if they kise its the kids. During the Colquit game he said the other team would fold bc he isn't there anymore. I've played ball or coached ball my entire life, won a d3 natty . Coach Probst would never make it anywhere other then hs. That me bs wouldn't fly.
I don’t know why this is a deal now everyone has been doing this in all the states. If it’s a big deal instead of talking about do something about it.
Just pay the student athletic already. Propst didnt lie. The schools are already doing it privately
Remember when Eric Dickerson changed his commitment the day after he got a brand new Trans Am?? 🤣
Solid gold trans am🤣🤣🤣
A good,up standing man,great influence on juds.NOT!!! Nick Chubb got the same kind of head start as Reggie Bush!!!
me after watching the netflix show
Snitching on nick saban lol
Coach probst I love this guy and coach Pruitt on Two A days "DING"
Just win, baby!
Propst was just bullshitting the guy. He didn't know he was being recorded.
I played high school football in Ga. He’s been a crooked person for a while.
He's the Bobby Petrino of high school football.
LMAO!!!!
He loved families so much that he wanted two of them.
I didn’t like that coach one min on the Netflix series now I have 100 reasons!
Bud Kilmer
Stick to the basics, stick to the basics, stick to the basics. Funny that you say that, me and a few buddies of mine call him Bud Kilmer 😂 😂.
Lmao facts
Kirby say it so you paying these players lol
Coach was cleared of any wrong doings, Jeremy you need to calm down.
2 a days was great. When football was football before social media ruined it
Yeah I know
Self-investigate??? 😂
He telling the truth imagine how much a img player go for
I loved that show
I will say, if you go to a big program in high school, it’s not uncommon for them to buy you a truck and buy you a house. It’s kind of like how a church takes care of a preacher. I think the coach at my high school, who had been there for 20 years, and I graduated in 2009, had a truck, house and was getting paid $70k-$80k a year. Dude that’s insane. He’s a teacher. And he’s making great money. But it is also a 6A Florida high school.
But just like a preacher, one minute your hot and one minute your not, and there’s no loyalty if the team/congregation isn’t doing well. And you can get fired at any moment. You and your family have to understand you’ll be moving. It’s not an easy life.