We played bad, but it was a faul on Rashford and you could se it if you just watched the match, and it was a penalty or even a red card for edersons tackle
United weren't robbed but it was a reckless tackle, out of control and endangering another player. If that had been Casemiro lunging into that tackle he would have been sent off. City were the better team and deserved to win but didn't need a twelfthman, or even thirteenth to do it.
The tackle was clean, in that Ederson won the ball. And, crucially, it was low, as in it was with one foot slid across the ground, to reduce any danger to the opponent. If Ederson's sprinting at full pace to make the challenge, how is he supposed to reduce the force, or avoid making contact with the other player in the follow-through? You're basically arguing that he shouldn't 've made the tackle at all. Looked like a fair call IMO. Andy Madeley is top-3 referees in the Prem I reckon, he's usually v reliable & fair.
@@garfield2193 you can't make a two footed tackle when you are off the ground with both feet and out of control, there have been fouls giving against players ever when they made no contact with player or ball, simple fact he wasn't in control. As for Rashford, he went down way too easy and should have kept going and forced another tackle on him while he goes for a shot.
Typical ETH and ManU fans blaming refs for the loss. Even though they parked the bus against a top team, and had less percentage points of possession than shots they allowed to City 😭 But yes it was questionable calling in the second half that lost them the game. I’m still looking for evidence that either is a foul in this video
Then you must be blind. That tackle from Ederson is reckless and out of control. If that's McTominay on Rodri in the middle of the pitch, it's a foul and at least a yellow card, maybe even a red. You cannot tackle like that in today's game, whether you get the ball or not. The ref absolutely bottled it. The Rashford one is debatable, but is it any less of a foul than the penalty City got when Hojlund did something similar to Rodri earlier this season? I don't think so. I don't mind it not being given, I think it'd be soft, but it's irritating when they get decisions and we don't for similar things.
@@Badger-8154 Stop chatting such absolute shit. Ederson gets the ball first and even on the follow through barely touches Garnacho. How is he out of control in going for the ball, connecting with the ball, and barely connecting with Garnacho?
Just watch a replay. The evidence is there. If you can't see it, that's on you. There is a lot of force in that tackle. You just can't do that nowadays.@@jonathanb1406
I don't know how anyone can watch a replay of that incident and come away with that opinion. I can only assume you're either a City fan, blind, or both. There is a lot of force in that tackle, you just can't do that nowadays. "Going for the ball" is an empty and idiotic statement, and "barely connecting with Garnacho" isn't really all that relevant either. It's a reckless tackle, it endangered an opponent, and should have been penalised. @@jonathanb1406
@@jonathanb1406 I'm not sure how anyone can see a replay of that incident and come away with that opinion. You must be a City fan, blind, or both. There is a lot of force in that tackle, you just can't do that nowadays. "Going for the ball" is an empty and idiotic statement, and "barely connecting with Garnacho" isn't really all that relevant either. The tackle was reckless, it endangered an opponent, and should have been penalised.
Ederson’s tackle on Garnacho was never a penalty. Ederson got the ball cleanly it deflected off of Garnacho and went out. Yeah Garnacho went flying (even though he could have just gone over Ederson) but it was an otherwise clean tackle by Ederson
@@Schlesticle So. If Casemiro got a ball like two seconds ago and threw it out of play and then a foul player from the opposite team with no feet on the ground it would have been a foul and a clear red.
We never get a fair game from referees or the media. Every decision is hyper analysed by pundits, so refs just give us nothing. I Don't even watch football now.
@@SAMUELKULPA you realize most clubs become popular after success? take away what Fergie did and United isnt popular either.... 90 % of your fan base is in India and America.....
@@taylor_m_237And where does Man City's fan base come from? A plastic manufacturers? If you go to the US the most popular club would probs be Chelsea.
Neither were fouls rashford bottled a 1 on one chase with walker. Ederson got the ball was very close but he did get the ball. Liverpool fan so wish it wasn,t the case but decisions were spot on.
Rashford had no reson to dive and push on a sholder while you are runing at the top speed is a faul and no mather if he got the ball he didn't stand with both feet on the ground when it happend so he can't say it was actidental collision between them, so it should have been a red card for ederson 100%
@@bushgangoriginal Ex-Prem referee Dermott Gallagher cleared up the situation on SkySports "Ref Watch" yesterday. He said that the challenge was a fair one
The Glazers are at the centre of it you mean. And that Ed Woodward bloke who arranged the takeover of the club to benefit all his other investment banker & hedge fund mates
the only people that think this is a foul is united supporters. fans ex players refs ex refs have all weighed in. Not even Liverpool and Arsenal supporters thik its a foul. But hey... the last decade United have made thier name as whiny prats.... so keep it up
@@bushgangoriginal and he tucks the foot. He doesn't throw himself threw the air. He commits to a slide. GK are judged by this all the time. It's not a foul bud. Went to VAR. Not one single ref or ex ref agrees with you.
Yeah as shown in the 4-4 spurs game when Grealish was called back from a 1 on 1 with the keeper. Or last season when rashford shielded the ball in an offside position, or fa cup final Fred fouled de bruyne in the box. Or when Casemiro fouled akanji badly but free kick went his way. Shut up with your false narratives
@@danshaw3527 dived? You are just delusional. I’m not even a Liverpool fan and I’m defending them. First time seeing a man city fan really. You guys are few and far between. Amazing the club can generate so much revenue. Oh wait. The money came out of thin air. Maybe when you get relegated the favorable decisions will stop.
BS. Maybe Utd fans need to look at Rashford, if he stays on his feet rather than going down after “minimal” contact City equaliser doesn’t happen when it did…….although it would have come eventually
@@69msyt It was a faul, if he is traveling at the top speed and got pushed it is a clear faul and he didn't have a reason to dive, he had a ball, he could have been 1 on 1 with ederson, it was a clear faul and it has stoped a dangerous atack so minimaly a yelov card to him and a red or a penalty for ederosns faul on garnacho
@@bushgangoriginaltalking absolute rubbish. Rashfords first touch was too far for him to reach it and walker got the ball first. There was no foul on rashford to begin with.
How is it even relevant if the balls involved or even if he makes contact... You can't attempt tackles like that it's ridiculous. It's a contact sport but it doesn't excuse a deliberate attempt to hurt someone or hurt them should they get past you or nick the ball. Garnacho would have altered what he did prior to Ederson trying to chop him up so how does that make it not a penalty or infringement... What's he meant to do walk into it and chill at home for a year playing fifa
casemiro before got a red card for a slide tackle after he touched the ball first and hit the player with his stoods up afterwards, it's inconsistent refereeing and it should be a foul
I'm not sure what's happened to the game in the last few years but it's a shame it's such a mess. You can accept being pissed off over a thing or two you thinks wrong or right but at this point it's just chaos. It's sad for the future tbh, maybe in a few years we can instate simulating the league on fifa or something before referees go extinct... Ahhh I remember when people used to speak about goals and so on rather than who's the ref or how tf is it takin ten mins to draw a line
What an absolute load of shit it was never a foul in a million years
Thank you fianlly
He is probably mad because Manchester United didnt win and now because of the loss he is blaming the referee
We played bad, but it was a faul on Rashford and you could se it if you just watched the match, and it was a penalty or even a red card for edersons tackle
it's easy say everything when you win.
@@smithyganky lol now you are jealous because you losed
@@bushgangoriginal no way that was just rashford acting skills
United weren't robbed but it was a reckless tackle, out of control and endangering another player. If that had been Casemiro lunging into that tackle he would have been sent off. City were the better team and deserved to win but didn't need a twelfthman, or even thirteenth to do it.
The tackle was clean, in that Ederson won the ball. And, crucially, it was low, as in it was with one foot slid across the ground, to reduce any danger to the opponent. If Ederson's sprinting at full pace to make the challenge, how is he supposed to reduce the force, or avoid making contact with the other player in the follow-through? You're basically arguing that he shouldn't 've made the tackle at all. Looked like a fair call IMO. Andy Madeley is top-3 referees in the Prem I reckon, he's usually v reliable & fair.
lol neither are a foul. Rashford not even close. this is a bad angle for the ederson tackle but he wins all ball. you can follow through the tackle.
@@garfield2193 you can't make a two footed tackle when you are off the ground with both feet and out of control, there have been fouls giving against players ever when they made no contact with player or ball, simple fact he wasn't in control. As for Rashford, he went down way too easy and should have kept going and forced another tackle on him while he goes for a shot.
@@DeanFeeneyMusic Dermott Gallagher, ex-Prem ref on SkySports Ref Watch, said today that the challenge was a fair one
@@DeanFeeneyMusic both feet werent off the ground tho, and it also wasn't no where near two footed. pause as 0:08
The ref didnt call fouls on every manunited players dive😥...how sad. Cope and seethe
Typical ETH and ManU fans blaming refs for the loss. Even though they parked the bus against a top team, and had less percentage points of possession than shots they allowed to City 😭 But yes it was questionable calling in the second half that lost them the game. I’m still looking for evidence that either is a foul in this video
Then you must be blind. That tackle from Ederson is reckless and out of control. If that's McTominay on Rodri in the middle of the pitch, it's a foul and at least a yellow card, maybe even a red. You cannot tackle like that in today's game, whether you get the ball or not. The ref absolutely bottled it.
The Rashford one is debatable, but is it any less of a foul than the penalty City got when Hojlund did something similar to Rodri earlier this season? I don't think so. I don't mind it not being given, I think it'd be soft, but it's irritating when they get decisions and we don't for similar things.
@@Badger-8154 Stop chatting such absolute shit. Ederson gets the ball first and even on the follow through barely touches Garnacho. How is he out of control in going for the ball, connecting with the ball, and barely connecting with Garnacho?
Just watch a replay. The evidence is there. If you can't see it, that's on you. There is a lot of force in that tackle. You just can't do that nowadays.@@jonathanb1406
I don't know how anyone can watch a replay of that incident and come away with that opinion. I can only assume you're either a City fan, blind, or both. There is a lot of force in that tackle, you just can't do that nowadays. "Going for the ball" is an empty and idiotic statement, and "barely connecting with Garnacho" isn't really all that relevant either. It's a reckless tackle, it endangered an opponent, and should have been penalised. @@jonathanb1406
@@jonathanb1406 I'm not sure how anyone can see a replay of that incident and come away with that opinion. You must be a City fan, blind, or both. There is a lot of force in that tackle, you just can't do that nowadays. "Going for the ball" is an empty and idiotic statement, and "barely connecting with Garnacho" isn't really all that relevant either. The tackle was reckless, it endangered an opponent, and should have been penalised.
Get Garnacho an Oscar
Ederson’s tackle on Garnacho was never a penalty. Ederson got the ball cleanly it deflected off of Garnacho and went out. Yeah Garnacho went flying (even though he could have just gone over Ederson) but it was an otherwise clean tackle by Ederson
No pen on garnacho. Not even close
It's a clear penalty 100%.
@@bushgangoriginalno. he got the ball perfectly
@@Schlesticle So. If Casemiro got a ball like two seconds ago and threw it out of play and then a foul player from the opposite team with no feet on the ground it would have been a foul and a clear red.
@@bushgangoriginal he got the ball so no foul
We never get a fair game from referees or the media. Every decision is hyper analysed by pundits, so refs just give us nothing. I Don't even watch football now.
No.
city doesn't have any shame. Being the best team in the and having 115 financial charges but still robbing man united
Copium
first of all that 115 charges are not proven guilty and second of all they were never a foul in a billion years
Why did Rashford fall over after light contact with a hand?
He got tripped
because he is at top speed
Easily a pen people in the comments showing they have 0 ball knowledge
...or maybe it's you that doesn't
@@garfield2193 i do, thats how i know this is a penalty.
@@jigglebiggle2799 Dermott Gallagher, ex-Prem ref on SkySports Ref Watch, said today that the challenge was a fair one
and why the pundits and refs disagreed with you....... @@jigglebiggle2799
Bro's ball knowledge is even worse than todd boehly's... Like bro for real how is it a pen, give a valid explanation 😂😂😂
i love man city
oil fan 115 plastic
@@SAMUELKULPA you realize most clubs become popular after success? take away what Fergie did and United isnt popular either.... 90 % of your fan base is in India and America.....
@@taylor_m_237And where does Man City's fan base come from? A plastic manufacturers? If you go to the US the most popular club would probs be Chelsea.
Both feet left the ground, def penalty
no, one foot, slid across the ground actually. Crucially, the unavoidable impact on the follow-through was low
Neither were fouls rashford bottled a 1 on one chase with walker. Ederson got the ball was very close but he did get the ball. Liverpool fan so wish it wasn,t the case but decisions were spot on.
Both were 100% fauls.
Rashford had no reson to dive and push on a sholder while you are runing at the top speed is a faul and no mather if he got the ball he didn't stand with both feet on the ground when it happend so he can't say it was actidental collision between them, so it should have been a red card for ederson 100%
@@bushgangoriginal bro rashford is on a clear chance in a 1 on 1 and he dived you can just call that stupidity
YESSSSSSS ❤
We supposed to get the corner cause the pentaly was disallowed so yes we were Robbed
Ederson kicked the ball on to Garnacho's foot matey, so goalkick was the correct call
@@garfield2193 firstly no he didn't kick the ball to his feet and it was 100% a faul
@@bushgangoriginal Ex-Prem referee Dermott Gallagher cleared up the situation on SkySports "Ref Watch" yesterday. He said that the challenge was a fair one
@@bushgangoriginal it was never a foul
Why all the time watching Garnacho rolling about? Show the incident a few times.
clear tackle
DoI think Man Utd were robbed? My arse
No PK No FOUL
Corruption in football is right into the heart and soul of the game, city are at the centre of it.
The Glazers are at the centre of it you mean. And that Ed Woodward bloke who arranged the takeover of the club to benefit all his other investment banker & hedge fund mates
the only people that think this is a foul is united supporters. fans ex players refs ex refs have all weighed in. Not even Liverpool and Arsenal supporters thik its a foul. But hey... the last decade United have made thier name as whiny prats.... so keep it up
@@taylor_m_237 it was 100% a faul, both feels left the ground.
@@bushgangoriginal and he tucks the foot. He doesn't throw himself threw the air. He commits to a slide. GK are judged by this all the time. It's not a foul bud. Went to VAR. Not one single ref or ex ref agrees with you.
Man city always get the rub of the green for 50-50 decisions. Always.
Yeah as shown in the 4-4 spurs game when Grealish was called back from a 1 on 1 with the keeper. Or last season when rashford shielded the ball in an offside position, or fa cup final Fred fouled de bruyne in the box. Or when Casemiro fouled akanji badly but free kick went his way. Shut up with your false narratives
@@danshaw3527 do you believe me now? Man city always get the rub of the green. Always.
@@weishenlim7240 they don’t though - Etihad Liverpool vs city game perfectly fine goal ruled out cause Alison dived
@@danshaw3527 dived? You are just delusional. I’m not even a Liverpool fan and I’m defending them.
First time seeing a man city fan really. You guys are few and far between. Amazing the club can generate so much revenue. Oh wait. The money came out of thin air.
Maybe when you get relegated the favorable decisions will stop.
No,i think United were outclassed, simple as that!.
It was their tactic, park the bus, and it worked, 2 out of 3 goals were after counter atack after refery mistakes.
bad loser's
MU now is too weak
Yes. Clearly a cleat first tackle inside the box.
yes, you are supposed to tackle with the cleat. neither are even close to a foul
lol. just lol.
Man united was robbed
Man Utd will be back to winning undeniably. It's just a matter of time.
In City first goal, there was a foul for Rashford and also for Plenty for garnacho
City bought the match
BS. Maybe Utd fans need to look at Rashford, if he stays on his feet rather than going down after “minimal” contact City equaliser doesn’t happen when it did…….although it would have come eventually
@@69msyt It was a faul, if he is traveling at the top speed and got pushed it is a clear faul and he didn't have a reason to dive, he had a ball, he could have been 1 on 1 with ederson, it was a clear faul and it has stoped a dangerous atack so minimaly a yelov card to him and a red or a penalty for ederosns faul on garnacho
@@bushgangoriginaltalking absolute rubbish. Rashfords first touch was too far for him to reach it and walker got the ball first. There was no foul on rashford to begin with.
Useless channel, never a foul
U are talking trash ....am a man U fan and we all watched the match .... that wasn't a penalty.....
We all watched the match, it is a penalty
Ederson was in contact with garnacho's leg u could clearly see it
How is it even relevant if the balls involved or even if he makes contact... You can't attempt tackles like that it's ridiculous.
It's a contact sport but it doesn't excuse a deliberate attempt to hurt someone or hurt them should they get past you or nick the ball.
Garnacho would have altered what he did prior to Ederson trying to chop him up so how does that make it not a penalty or infringement... What's he meant to do walk into it and chill at home for a year playing fifa
casemiro before got a red card for a slide tackle after he touched the ball first and hit the player with his stoods up afterwards, it's inconsistent refereeing and it should be a foul
I'm not sure what's happened to the game in the last few years but it's a shame it's such a mess. You can accept being pissed off over a thing or two you thinks wrong or right but at this point it's just chaos. It's sad for the future tbh, maybe in a few years we can instate simulating the league on fifa or something before referees go extinct...
Ahhh I remember when people used to speak about goals and so on rather than who's the ref or how tf is it takin ten mins to draw a line
DIVER GARNACHO TYPICAL MANU FANS BLAMING THE REF 😂🤣💀