ORBEA RISE M-TEAM 2022 - REVEIW - IS IT LIGHTWEIGHT?
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- čas přidán 12. 06. 2024
- Welcome to my full ride review of the 2022 ORBEA RISE M-TEAM.
#ORBEA #emtb #review
I spent another day on the Southdowns national park near Eastbourne, testing this incredible lightweight-EMTB. My aim was to compare it against a full-powered emtb to see what the main differences were. I was blown away with its "normal MTB" feel and capabilities.
Massive thanks to Olie from Velocipede Cycles in Tunbridge Wells for trusting me with and allowing me to test his awesome bike. Please go check out this bike shop, as I can't recommend them highly enough. They stock some incredible brands such as Orbea, Kona, NS, Yeti and Evil.
Website:
www.velocipedecycles.co.uk/ab...
I've based my review on my own personal experience comparing it against the full powered Whyte E160RS emtb that I've also recently tested.
Skip straight to your favourite moment:
👉 00:00 ORBEA RISE M-TEAM
👉 00:44 Intro
👉 01:44 Spec
👉 04:47 Weight
👉 05:25 Un-assisted hill climb
👉 11:01 Is it lightweight?
👉 11:43 Downhill time!
👉 15:26 Max ascent speed?
👉 18:57 Is it fast?
👉 21:28 Can it handle tech?
👉 24:12 Can it handle steep a climb?
👉 25:46 Range
👉 27:27 Velocipede cycles shout out!
👉 28:30 My conclusion.
👉 30:09 More videos to watch.
Thanks so much for checking out my video.
The test bike:
2022 ORBEA RISE M-TEAM.
RRP: £8,799
size L
Weight with 360 Wh = 18.18kg / 40lbs (Compared to a full power eMTB = 25kg / 55lbs)
150/140 mm (f/r)
Weight with 360 Wh + 252 Wh = 612 Wh = 20.52 kg
Orbea wanted a pure Mountain bike experience with the added benefit of some additional Power, so they worked directly with Shimano to develop a custom version of the EP8 motor, which Orbea added a custom tune that was based around the four keystone factors, Power, weight, range and Rider Interface. All this was then coupled with a lightweight 360Wh internal battery with the very latest 21700 cells.
Frame:
2.3KG / 5lbs (Without the shock)
Rise shares the same super-light carbon construction techniques used with Occam and Rallon.
Geometry:
Size tested: L
Head angle: 65.5°
Seat angle: 76.5°
Seat tube: 457mm
BB height: 336mm
BB drop: 35mm
Chainstay: 445mm
Wheelbase: 1,224mm
Reach: 474mm
Top tube: 619mm
Stand over height: 766mm
Front centre: 786mm
SPECIFICATIONS:
Motor: Shimano EP8 RS 60 NmBattery:
Orbea internal 360 Wh (+252 Wh Range Extender)
Display: Shimano SC-EM800
Fork: FOX 36 Factory GRIP2 150 mm
Rear Shock: FOX DPX2 Factory 140 mm
Seatpost: FOX Transfer Factory 125 - 175 mm
Brakes: Shimano XTR 4-Kolben 180/180 mm
Drivetrain: Shimano XTR 1x12 + ethirteen
Stem: Race Face Turbine R 50 mm
Handlebar: Race Face Next R 780 mm
Wheelset: Race Face Turbine R 29"
Tyres: MAXXIS Minion DHF/Dissector 2.5"/2.4"
EP8 RS - Ride Synergy :
The standard Shimano EP8 motor has been de-tuned from 85 to 60Nm to reduce the maximum torque and this saves the power output from new the lighter battery. The Shimano EP8 RS 60Nm motor is designed for 70-90rpm cadence for sweet spot efficiency, range and power with the much lighter 360Wh battery. The EP8 RS power band feels alive, smooth and responsive, echoing rider input and cadence = THE HARDER YOU PEDAL, THE MORE ASSISTANCE RISE PROVIDES.
SHIMANO E-TUBE MOBILE APP
X2 profiles can be fine-tuned in seconds to your personal liking, using the Shimano E-tube mobile app.
GARMIN:
Garmin users can connect watch’s or GPS units to the bike to show easy to view information: SUPPORT MODE - ASSIST LEVEL - CADENCE - RANGE - SPEED
Alternative screen:
Add the handlebar Display unit through MyO with adjustable profiles on the trails.
Range:
*Dependant on rider weight/fitness/terrain
Internal battery 360Wh only:
ECO = 4.5 hours (2500m elevation)
TRAIL = 3 hours (1700m elevation)
BOOST = 2 hours (1200m elevation)
Adding the RS Range Extender gives ride times comparable to a 900Wh battery on a regular ebike.
Range extender (70% more power!) 252Wh (360Wh +252Wh = 612Wh)
ECO = 8hrs (4000m elevation)
TRAIL = 5hrs (2900m elevation)
BOOST = 3.5hrs (2000m elevation)
Extra Energy for your eMTB:
The optional 252 Wh range extender can be stored in the bottle cage and boosts the battery capacity to a total of 612 Wh, providing enough juice for epic backcountry adventures. RRP = £450
ORBEA MyO - Custom config:
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Nice review Phill - that’s a heck of a bit of kit!! I really like the fact that you rode it without the motor .. does that mean ebikers with this won’t get ‘range anxiety’? 🤔🤣
Cheers buddy 👍. Yes, what a machine! Way more capable than I was expecting, and with ZERO range anxiety 💪😉🤘
Very enjoyable, hopefully we're see lots more from you
Thanks Lee, I hope to bring more reviews to the channel soon. Really appreciate your feedback 💪😎👍
Great review buddy. Deffo one on my N+1 list for sure.
👊😎🤘
Thanks bud, really appreciate it 👍. My wish list is growing 🤣🤑
Done that same route a few times myself, great riding mix of XC and trails. I am considering getting a Rise with 540wh battery to get up the fire road a bit quicker and get extra laps in Friston
Ohhh that bike with that battery would be mint👌. Hopefully see you on the Friston trails soon 🤜🤛
Love my M20 and these are my local trails. Nice video.
Thanks dude, stay safe & shred well 👍
Great video review , looks a superb bike , love it
Thanks Andy👍. Yes it’s an amazing bike and definitely one to consider 🤜🤛
Great video, thanks
Thanks so much for watching, I really appreciate it 🤜🤛
I had the first m team rallon great bike n spec the only reason I got ride of her was the rear suspension platform and the reach felt like i was over the front especially in the steep stuff! My mates got this bike and loves it! PS I've just coil my speccy enduro omg it's unreal! Great vid pal!
Thanks for your great feedback and for watching my little video 👍. I’ll bet that coil is awesome 🤘. Not sure if you’ve been but I’ll be uploading a video soon of my recent trip to Dyfi bike park, your Speccy would be perfect there😜🤘.
@@UPHILLPHILL can't wait to see it! I've been twice it's the BEST bike park in UK. I'm at stiniog in 2 weeks time. The bike with coil is unreal, airshocks are good but coil is another level so predictable through the travel and grip! PS I hope you did the Oakley drop??😲😲👊
Nice one fella 😁 hell of a bike 👌
Cheers buddy, it was awesome and it’s added to my wish list 🤑
Great video mate. Be good to see your thoughts on the THOK MIG V2.
Thanks Scott, really appreciate your feedback. I’d love to test the Thok but not sure if I could get hold of one? Never say never though 😉
@@UPHILLPHILL great review you can get a Thok from Botley mtb shop in Southampton it’s near Botley train station 👌🏽
Great video, i have been arguing with myself if Orbea Rise is the right machine for me and now i am confident it is. Now i just need to decide on what model of it i should get 👌😀
Keep it up!
Fantastic, thanks for your feedback 👍. It is truly an incredible machine. Enjoy 🤜🤛
Did you get an Orbea rise ? If so, where did you bought it?
@@erikd6124 i ended up with a Trek rail GX 9, price was so i could not say no. Felt great so far!
I can highly recommend Velocipede cycles in Tunbridge Wells (Kent) who are an official Orbea dealer and all round amazingly helpful bunch, they may well have some deals on at the moment too. Good luck 🤜🤛
Nice review dude, I have the Orbea Wild FS 20 it’s an absolute beast on the climbs but it’s quite heavy especially on the tight twisty stuff, I was thinking of changing it for the Rise but I need to demo the Rise I think 🤔!! 👊🏽
Thanks so much for message and watching 👍. The Wild FS is certainly an awesome bike but a very different animal to the Rise, of which I reckon you’ll be blown away with! A large part of my ride time was done unassisted and it felt like my familiar non-eMTB. The only thing I’d change, we’ll, not really change but simply add is a range extender for those big mountain days. Enjoy your test ride dude💪😎🤜🤛
@@UPHILLPHILL awesome 👏 yeah I actually thought I was actually going to buy a Rise because I knew nothing about Orbea I saw it on eBay and then when I got there it was a Wild and the guy said “no this is not a rise it’s a full blown full fat bike you’ll love it and I had one ride on it and I bought it straight away 🤣 but I really wish I had tried the ri😟rise first because I have no idea what they’re like , also I’m 5:10” what size would you recommend?
@@pcarts232 I’m the same height as you and I’d go with a large.
@@UPHILLPHILL some guy is selling an M team size medium 4K I know it’s maybe a bit small but it’s done 300 miles !! I must just have to get it 😂you think medium will be way too small ? I need to have a sit on it , it’s a lot of money if it’s too small 🙃
@@pcarts232 personally, my preference is to the large as I prefer a longer cockpit. It really depends on your riding style and comfort as I’d say (like me) you’re right on the line between both. Go look sit/ride on it to make sure, as you say, it’s a lotta cash 💰😉. Good luck dude 🤜🤛
hey man, where did u buy frame protection set? best greets nice bike !
Cheers bud 👍. The frame protection is from Invis and although not cheap, it’s totally worth considering. They’re custom cut for individual frames and they fit perfectly. It was fitted at my local bike shop, Velocipede Cycles in Tunbridge Wells. Good luck dude 🤜🤛
Great vid. Loving my rise m-ltd. I would have bought a cheaper one if I could find one, but this was the only one in my area that wasn't on a container ship from Spain. Personally I prefer the minimalistic display -- don't need the upgraded display.
Thanks Paul, I really appreciate your message and thanks so much for watching. Enjoy your awesome M-LTD💪😎🤘
Is it better to go with the cheaper models? Like M20? Is the difference noticeable?
@@michaelb9940 My M-LTD is 37.3 lbs. My wife has the M-20 is like 43 lbs and it is a somewhat different bike. Personally for me, if you're are already considering spending 8-9K on a bike (which is crazy), might as well go big and get the lightest one, it does make a difference, I don't think you'll regret it.
@@127pcj thank you
I have watched loads of videos about the Rise, most of them are entertaining but bear no relation to the type of riding I do in the UK. This is the first one that actually addresses (and answers) all the questions I have bar one.
What is the battery life? By this I don't mean when you are riding, what is the practical lifespan of the battery? Once it has died, do Orbea provide a recycling/replacement service? Battery disposal can be a real PITA and it something no one ever seems to talk about.
Otherwise, top video.
First of all John, I’d like to thank you for watching and for your wonderful complementary feedback, I really appreciate it.
Secondly, I really appreciate your honesty and I’ll take it onboard as your question is extremely valid and one that I intend looking into, so thanks for voicing it.
🤜🤛
@@UPHILLPHILL Hi Phil. I have spoken to Orbea, they say there is no recycling or replacement program. Quite what happens when the battery eventually dies I don't know. (EDIT: Orbea have subsequently confirmed they have the capacity to provide replacement batteries for a 'long time')
The Fuel Ex e seems to have a far more user friendly battery system and Trek seem to be quite switched on with the environmental side of things. It certainly seems more than just the usual green washing you normally get from companies. No one talks about battery life or disposal but it is going to become more relevant as time goes by. It might be a subject you think about including in future reviews as it is relevant. 😀
Cheers for your update John. I also contacted Orbea and had a similar response, which tbh is a little disappointing. Yes, these bikes are amazing but because of the battery eventually coming to an end, it’s something that definitely needs to be factored into the purchase. Thanks for the info regarding the Trek👍.
@@UPHILLPHILL Interestingly European legislation dictates that a provider of electrical equipment and especially batteries MUST provide their customers with the means to return batteries for recycling and / or provide very specific recycling centre details in the market the goods are sold. Comes under WEEE legislation. Applies in US as well.
Great review by the way!
How does the cut off work? So at 16 mph there is no more assistance meaning if you ride at 20 mph you are assisted to 16 mph after that it's just you?
Can you get it to like 20 mph pretty easy on a flat terrain?
The bike will assist you to 16mph, legally, any assistance past is therefore not legal so it is then your own raw power after 16mph. So depending on how much raw power you have available depends on your overall top speed 😉.
I have a Rise and could change the settings to US zone to get the 20mph assistance and 85nm power,
Need to downgrade firmware then update whenever you want with the last firmware
Nice one Laurent, a great top tip, thank you 🤜🤛
That rattle from the motor would kill me!
Bizarrely, I thought it would do the same to me too from watching other videos of similar motors but in the heat of the moment, whilst smashing out some DH, it’s not really noticeable + with the immense amount of fun being had at the time, it’s kind of a irrelevant. 😉
which is the most powerful NM mtb e-bike
Not sure which brand has the most powerful motor but I do know some are now spec’ing with 90Nm units and very high capacity batteries. Take a look at the Haibike Allmtn range. Also, check out Rob Rides channel as his EMTB knowledge is exceptional 👍
How tall are you, Im thinking of getting one but dont know about which size?! 🙂
I’m 5’10” (70” or 178cm) 👍
I think I remember you saying it was large in the video is that correct? Also was the dropper post on the lowest point it could be? Sorry for this bro!!
No worries at all buddy. The size is the Large and I did move the 150mm dropper post up very slightly so it did have a small amount of movement. If it help’s, my inside leg measures 32” (81.5cm). If you’re able to test both a medium and large I’d recommend it as it sounds like you are similar to me being in the middle of both sizes! If you are near the southeast of the UK come and talk with the guy’s at Velocipede Cycles who are Orbea experts and have them in stock 👍
Alright thanks, very informative video BTW! 😀
Cheers buddy, I hope you have your new bike soon. Enjoy 🤜🤛
East Sussex Seven Sisters Cliffs
Sure is😉
If only if only...
Make it a goal, it’s sooo worth it. Thanks for watching 🤜🤛
What do all of you guys in the comments do that allows you to afford a 15k bicycle ?
Did you go to school and for how long ?
Genuinely asking for tips here
I need to make changes in my life , and I need a career path that can afford me hobbies and time to do things I enjoy and go on vacation etcetc :/
I've done trades and I want to be not miserable when I'm older and I'm intelligent enough that I can learn just about anything
I was looking into becoming a psychiatrist but holy shit I'm 29 and that's like 14 years of school, 10 years to be a doctor then another 4, so I'd be 43 , and I can't afford to go to school for 14 years lmfao 🙃 I was looking into getting my pilot license but I got really depressed and relapsed after being in an abusive relationship and I overdosed behind the wheel and might be looking at a dui so I can't get my pilot license if that happens, but I can still get driving jobs after 15 months .. I'm sick and tired if being a fucj up and I'm sick and tired of being sick and tired enough enough I gotta make a change,
I was thinking fire fighter would be an option too
Andrew, firstly, thanks so much for watching my video and secondly I’m convinced that there’s a positive path for everyone on this planet including you.
A little about my story then. I never really enjoyed school and after leaving I went into an engineering role as a sewing machine mechanic and quickly realised that that all my childhood years of loving bikes and repairing them had led me towards a passion for engineering. I also developed a passion for water sports and teaching, so went down the route of an instructor which allowed me to develop further skills which has led me to the role I have now as a telecommunications engineering trainer.
Long story short, I’ve been very lucky to have had such great routes to follow but I’ve always been drawn to subjects that not only I’m interested in but also that I enjoy a great deal.
My advice would be to focus on these things, identify what ever it is that you are really interested in and what makes you happy, follow the route that unfolds, try different things, get out of your comfort zone, say yes to things you’d normally say no to and you maybe be surprised what opportunities open up for you.
With regards to the expensive bikes, well, I’ve made some amazing friends through my mountain biking journey which started back in 1986. I’ve some great buddies who happen to own my local bike shop and allow me to test their bikes. I’ve also built up a solid knowledge of bike maintenance of which not only saves me a lot of time and money but also gives me great pleasure when finding pre-loved bikes that need help and some TLC, so I breathe life back in to them and sell them on This helps me save enough to buy the amazing bikes I’ve been lucky enough to own and that’s exactly what I’m currently doing now for my next bike, along with hard work and overtime 😉.
CZcams has also really helped me, as it is another route of learning that is very rewarding and something that I didn’t think possible but I’ve really surprised myself and it’s now just starting to bring me a little income through monetisation, again something I didn’t foresee.
I truly hope you find your route/path that opens up your world and allow you to buy the bike you deserve.
Good luck dude and thanks again for your support 🤜🤛.
Buy an e-mtb to not use the E… Hmmm
Right tool for the job really. It’s like having a hybrid car Vs full electric. Not everyone needs full e-power😉.