NEW FANATEC STUFF! (No, it's not QR2)
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- čas přidán 31. 05. 2024
- Fanatec have just released a revised version of their CSL Hub, along with 9 new wheel bundles for 199.9 EUR/USD. When bundled with a CSL DD, this gets you as Direct Drive setup without pedals for under 400 EUR/USD.
We were unimpressed with the previous CSL Hub and felt there were some key areas that needed improvement before we'd recommend it, so lets see how this new V2 hub stacks up!
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TIME STAMPS:
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Compatibility: 3:54
What's Improved?: 5:24
Driving Experience & Conclusions: 9:23
#fanatec #simracing #wheel - Hry
You need to include a blind test for us VR racers who have to fumble around in the dark for the buttons!
Second this, I’m curious which simagic wheel I should buy lol
This is a very good point! With so many of us using VR it really is a good point of consideration!
@@TylerCancelI recently got the alpha u and gts wheel combo. If your in VR the gts is a very good choice. I’ve never had issues knowing which buttons are which and the 7 way funky switches close to your thumbs are very useful. Lots of inputs right where you need them
I add to this can we get a VR test?
@@alecmillea4539 I have the Gt pro round wheel and love it! But for Gt racing I can’t decide which wheel to go with 😩
2:40 small correction: the CSL DD for 199.95 deal ONLY applies if you also add a pedal set! You wont get the CSL DD for 199.95 if you "just" add a Wheel without also adding a pedal set, which also means you can not get a complete package with a Wheel base, the Hub and a Wheel for under 400.
Cheapest wheel and pedals come in under 400 in the US
@@MrMeeks-vi5lo wheel + pedals yes. Wheel + Base no.
That's what I figured cause I tried adding it to the bundle since I have pedals already and it did not come to that price
Already had the SRM usb conversion hub for my other fanatec wheels which I use with the VRS this was good purchase as a cheap but high function button plate compared to others with same functionality on the market.
Good timing on this video, I’m planning to get this hub with the drift rim :)
Got it for PS5 few weeks ago with Acelith Ace v2 wheel - love it! Solid made, responsive feedback and just all around good product
Had the bigger buttons toward the middle crack over time on the V1 but didnt fall off or impair functionality. Over is a okay hub. Gets the job done on a budget.
Thanks Will!
Great review! I've had the V1 version of the universal hub for a couple of years now and have combined wth a CSL R300 wheel. I think you nailed it with the phrase, "...looks a little bit boot leg..."
I think I want to upgrade my pedal set before I go back and replace/upgrade hubs and wheels.
I also have a CSL DD Wheel Base and the McLaren V2 wheel. Both of which I'm happy with.
Eyeing the XP1 Loadcell set from Sim Lab. They should be a respectable upgrade from my Thrustmaster T-LCMs.
Any chance you'll be reviewing the XP1's any time soon? Would love to see and hear what you think of them.
Appreciate the care and craftsmanship you put into these reviews.
Cheers!
I was waiting for your review…. thanks
Doesn't the Fanatec Porsche button plate use that proprietary USB-C jack on the Podium hub?
I'm not trying to suggest that the Porsche button plate will work with this hub, I don't think it will fit. But this could mean that theres some sort of expansion parts planned for this hub. Too bad the shifters cannot be swapped out for the Club Sport Magnetic shifters. That would have made this hib a must buy.
Still tempting though. I like the Round 1 and both of the flat wheels with this hub. I just might get one...
perfect review as always, thanks! what about this hub paired with the clubsport wheel rim 320 attached to a csl DD 5NM? for gt and formula
I have the V1 version and it had gathered dust after both paddles
stopped working.
Unbolted the wheel hub from the unit and separated both sides...
Lo! one side of the thinner ribbon cable was being pulled out of
it's connection. After refitting I put a glob of E3000 glue over it
to stop it recurring.
Did you find that the hub interferes with your hands on the wheel? It looked at times in the video as if you had to consciously avoid hitting it when spinning the wheel.
Which wheel do you prefer for CSL DD 8 nm with only 1 wheel ? Clubsport round wheel 1 27 mm , R300 v2 or 320 nm full round for
Universal hub ?
I was looking at this when ordering a new wheel last week but it seems like there's no ability to put buttons on the bottom or use the advanced paddle module like you can with the other hub they sell (which I thought was just an older version of this one, but I guess its not? idk I lose track with their stupid naming scheme). So yeah I ended up just doing with the other version and adding the enduro button panel thing and advanced paddle module to that
sweet review!
so is the plastic stock quick release enough for their csl DD 8nm torque?
I would like the Fanatec to make it possible to adjust the FFB signal in software like moza, simucube and many others do. Reduce strong forces and strengthen minimal ones.
so wich is better v1 or v2 i have v1 and v2 its on the way by santaclause is v2 version paddles good (magnetic)
All I want is the CSL WRC rim with magnetic shifters. I was very disappointed with the shifters on the P1 I purchased last year, I returned it.
Will they be coming out with a clubsport dd like 12nm? Dont hold my breath?
My barely 3 year old Fanatec rig failed entirely... wheelbase, shifter, handbrake, pedals each failing in their own way and I'm tired of having to try fixing and bandaging them. I'm not even rough on the stuff, I just threw it in the dumpster yesterday. I'll be going with Moza for my next rig. I have Logitech g25 in my closet that survived many more years than that.....
What’s the long term reliability of Moza kit?
As always I appreciate the great review . I will say the button boxes look like a cheap fisher price toy form the 70s. The rims look nice tho .
But is it better than CSL steering wheel (P1 v2, BMW or WRC)?
Can you mount it with a real steering wheel from MOMO, Sparco etc?
No button caps is a deal breaker for me. I like to assign the buttons where i want them, and i like the button to match the function assigned.
Thanks for the video. How would you compare plastic shifters on this to metal ones on WRC wheel?
The feeling overall is pretty similar.
What bother me with Fanatec is that if I order the booster kit with the bundle, you don't get the base at a discount price, and I would have to order it separately. Of course, it makes "sense" due the fact the bundle is only for the 5nM base, but the problem is...Both 5 and 8 nM are the same base, and buying the power adapter separately is "just" 150 euro.
It would make more sense in a Moza ecosystem, where each wheel is different.
That doesn't happen to me on the US store. If I add the 8NM base I still get the $150 discount (CSL DD Discount) added to the cart as long as there are pedals and a wheel in the cart.
Thanks for the great review. I'm a GT7 player on PS5. I'm considering buying this with a round wheel bundle or getting something like the CSL WRC or CSL P1 v2 wheel. Which option do you think will work best on PlayStation? Cheers. (I don't have the PlayStation wheel)
I’ve got the Formula V2x (orange stitching) fantastic wheel. It depends on what cars you like to race. For drifting and dirt track a round wheel works best. I suggest the round WRC wheel to save some money. The Formula wheel is the best IMO.
Hopefully this is the start of Fanatec releasing new equipment, as they are being left way behind their competitors…how hard is it to make a Podium pedal set and bring out a better formula wheel that is larger than the 270mm V2.5 clubsport!!
Also, where is the WRC button module? Fanatec should be concentrating on bringing out new products as their entire range is looking tired compared with others!
Not to mention their quick release is severely outdated and I dont think qr2 will fix that issue (if it ever comes out). I fucked up getting into the fanatec ecosystem lmao. Hopefully they get their shit together.
I agree about the formula 2.5 wheel being too small but they do have the mclaren wheel which is a bit larger and was the ideal size for me. Unfortunately there were other things I didn't like about the mclaren wheel after a while, like the super firm and noisy shifter paddles, and the hard material on the hand grips
@@RobertRychtarczyk what can even be "outdated" about a quick release? You pull it, the wheel comes off. What else could a more updated version do?
@@SimQuips you have to be joking.
@@RobertRychtarczyk answer the question then. What else should a quick release do other than quickly release the wheel?
Hey will, im thinking about going for a moza wheelbase. But they dont have a lot of wheels yet. Which ecosystem/brand has the best catalog of wheels? (Also considering price/performance)
Not Will, but I think only Fanatec fits your requirements. They have pretty much the biggest catalogue of accessories so you will find something for yourself but none of them are at competetive prices, maybe except the CSL DD Ready2Race bundle... but it's cheap for a reason. Moza would be my second choice as despite being a small & relatively new company, they are expanding their portfolio somewhat quickly with things that people actually want, like a truck steering wheel (finally!) + the fact they're using a common quick release design means you can use any fitting non-1st party quick release & be on your way unlike with Fanatec where you need to pay $200 to use custom steering wheels as otherwise you will have no FFB... which is just mindboggling
@Sithhy ive just sold my fanatec wheelbase, i do not like their vision, nor do i like their support history.
Too many bad stories.
Also their bad QR shows me they lost lost their passion to build good quality products. They have outgrown themselves.
I just ordered mine csl DD got the csl pedals the alacantra 320 rim with the universal hib v2 also got a 67 bundle discount plus the 126 discount...planning on selling the pedals brand new as have the moza S-RPs
How is it overall?? Looking to make a big jump from a Logitech g920 and thinking this might be a reasonable move for the price
Fanatec doing what they do best, continue to build and slightly improve the same product offering. WHERE IS THE QR2, can we even say for certainty that there ever will be a QR2 at this point???
We can do now.
I got it and its really good
Great review are you planning on reviewing any of the newer simagic rims?
Should hopefully be happening soon.
@@boostedmediamega! Looking forward
Can you review the pxn v12 lite?
There is incorrect info at 2.01 in the vid. Fanatec have at least 1 official supplier in the uk. I got mine from them .
Pounds sterling cost £ ?
I'm having a hell of a time getting the Universal HUB V2 to work with my PS4 Pro... I managed to get it recognized by the GT DD Pro base, and update the firmware for both the base and the hub. The PS4 never sees it though. I can start up the PS4 with a regular controller, but then I have no wheel or pedals input at all, regardless of the mode I use on the base... HELP!
Also, mine didn't come with a quick release. I had to swap the one from my GT DD Pro Wheel.
hi just wanted to ask does this have vibration motors in it?
No
I'm a little surprised Fanatec choose to update this. It does seem like they're really gun-ho on revamping their existing product line. Rather then producing new things. It must be more cost effective for them. Oh QR2, where are you? But I've learned with Fanatec is, never count them out. Right when we least expect it, they'll lunch some epic things.
Ordered one on the 1/9/2023 still waiting
Just receive my V2 hub and the plastic quick release is MISSING. Does not ship with it. Very disappointed. Contacted Fanatec not sure when they will shop it out. Or will they.
They ship separately. It’ll likely arrive tomorrow
2:30 You mixed up the 320 V2 and R330 V2. Wheel under the 320 V2 text is actually the R330 V2 and the other way around for the bottom right one
does anyone have a rough idea what delivering is in Australia for a full Fantec set-up? CSL DD, Elite V2 pedal, Mclaren GT3 v2 wheel? I don't want to give Fantec all my contact details if I'm not going to buy
Mine was quick when i ordered my stuff. Then again im about 2 hours away from their australian hq.
How much did it cost?
How tf do i mount a Qr2 to a CSL V2 without breaking anything
Dateline 2029: Trump re-elected as President for historic 3rd term after changing constitution. Russia:Ukraine war enters 7th year. Sea-levels rise by another 10mm over 2028. Iracing teases rain coming to the service “soon”. And finally Fanatec starts shipping CSL DD Pro v5.2 wheelbases, hints QR2 “might” be available before 2030.
🤣
I've given up all hope of the QR2 actually releasing.
Really want Fanatec to bring out a mid range base, about 15nn.
Q4 supposedly. But why, you can get the DD1 for $999. It is excellent and never need to upgrade again
Same hoping they release a clubsport dd soon
@@chuckystang really! It shows me it's $1650au.
@@aubreycolemanracing sorry I’m in US. It’s $999 dollars not sure what that equates to in Australia
@chuckystang yeah, almost double the price of a CSL DD.
I have ordered a complete fanatec set. It was in stock and still is on the website. But now 3 weeks later it is still not even shipped and waiting in the warehouse do to technical stuff. Never ever again that i will order Fanatec stuf!!!! It was for my son birtday. But we have now a empty chair in the room for more then a week. And no response from Fanatec at all. The only thing that they say: we will anser in 3 workday's. But that was a week ago. Is there anyone ho has the same problem? i thought i was the best dad ever. But i am now the best loser!
If it uses the same switches on the PC board for the gear shifts then it won't last. I have the V1 and after a while (within 12 months) the gear shifts become increasingly unreliable. Bought stiffer after market paddles which helped but, well, expensive paper weight. After more than two years of use (abuse?) my McLaren V2 wheel still works perfectly. Go figure
I'm told they've changed the internals for the shifters so although the feel hasn't changed drastically (in my opinion at least), they should hopefully be more reliable. TIme will tell.
Honestly if they just used a microswitch for the shifters it would be fine. The way the shifters are actuated is the worst way possible. A small piece of metal bent in a u shape that pops in and out as you squeeze. Needless to say they cease to work the more you use them.
Hate how the buttons are all on top. This will limit finger movement and will be hard to use the buttons mid race
Its a trade off for having the hub be able to remain compatible with a wide variety of wheel styles I guess.
Boosted speach?
Does anyone know anybody who would like to have this product?
That thing would sell like hot cakes if you could plug it in via USB
QR2 " coming soon" on all their gear (website)... makes the veins pulse on the side of my head. gimme gimme gimme
Disclaimer! Don't order in Europe. People are waiting weeks and months for orders as Fanatec is loosing packages in their warehouse. There's zero transparency from them on their website, no mention of the delays and accepting orders as usual. Very few people manage to get in contact with them and they don't have customer service. No way of cancelling an order either.
Do you think they will bring out a Xbox version?
No.
Why the music so loud
10:54 mhm, the whole Shifter mechanism was COMPLETELY changed and should feel drastically different. Previously it used Snapdomes, not it's a spring mechanism with an entirely different feel and a much better "click" sound...
Still just feels like engaging a microswitch to me. Acceptable for the price for sure, but in my opinion not a drastic change from before.
Lmao no QR2 as I enjoy my better system for the price, the Moza R9. Nice video and product by Fanatec but man where is the QR2?
run for pm
too bad we pay for thoose stuff and fanatec still cant send my package after 1 week of waiting ..
'or just wait for the QR2 to be released... he said' 😂
Well, I'm waiting for almost 2 years now 🤔 Still no release date from Fanatec.
They're not even answering questions about it. Wish i had the money to upgrade away from fanatec.
maybe the shifters won't die after 2 fucking weeks of use this time
I'm told they've changed the internals for the shifters so although the feel hasn't changed drastically (in my opinion at least), they should hopefully be more reliable. TIme will tell.
That's good to hear. I had a chaotic time with Fanatec's QA over my first CSL Hub that left a horrible taste in my mouth, so I really hope time will tell.@@boostedmedia
The one leather rim is identical to my Thrustmaster TX Leather Wheel
To be specific the Round 1 V2
My life has been a lie. Hearing you pronounce the company's name, I thought it was an accent thing, like ... what do Australians write with ? A pin. Upon further research, you say it right. As in "fanatic". I've been calling them "fana-tech" for years... I don't even know who I am at this point...
lol V1 was fine, i feel like they made a V2 for people complaining, same with the pedals better than logitech lol
Quite a few people have commented regarding the reliability of the shifters on the V1. I wonder if they were getting a lot of warranty claims perhaps?
untill FANATEC have a seller in the uk i wont be getting tanythng from them
You can buy from uk sellers.i got one without importing it.
After all my dealings with sim racing i dont even care anymore
Fanatec is felling off… where the f is the qr2? Where is new dd base with about 10-15nw
No Xbox compatibility it's a shame :/
Funny that they can send you their new upcoming stuff... meanwhile there are paying customers who are waiting weeks to well over a month for their order to ship only to hear nothing from fanatec as to why their order keeps on being delayed -.-
If they haven’t changed the way the shifters work on the inside then it’s useless. The metal push tab bullshit they use is garbage.
They actually have changed the whole shifter mechanism from Snapdome to Spring loaded. It's basically the most significant change on the V2 and it's a miracle for me how it can feel anywhere close to the V1. It's night and day difference to me.
They realise QR2 , but price is ...
Fannatec is just so far out of touch with its customers its insane, they are so money hungry and it shows!
Someone should do reviews on Fanatec QR1 against QRs from other brands currently available.
I don’t think people realised how bad and how far behind QR1 really is compare to other options.
Fanatec really should be focusing on improving its QR rather than keep on milking money from an outdated design
We do comparisons of this in most of our reviews
@@boostedmedia I appreciate that you guys do include that in your steering wheel/ wheel base reviews. I just think that the points about QR kind of buried under the wheelbase /steering wheel review itself. I think if there’s a direct comparisons between QRs from other brands available right now, it would be a lot more evident how bad Fanatec QR1 really is compare to the competitors.
I have several Fanatec Wheels as well as other third parties wheel. While I do enjoy using them, I definitely do not enjoy swapping them out. I lost count how many times I hit myself in the face with Fanatec wheels. It’s the only thing that stopping me from buying any more of Fanatec products right now.
Never bying anything from fanatec again.. 1. customer support aboslute garbage
2. They are not releasing anything new, everything starts to be outdated
3. So many problems with the wheel and base
how many kidneys were you born with and how many did you sell to afford your simrig
None for me. I had to pay with blood, sweat and tears. Thats why I'm still using a wheel stand.
It'd be a tax write off.
Nah, Kidney was just for the first loan pay, then I'm having fortnightly bum giving payments for the next 10 years, not to obviously mention divorce as outcome.
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Serious now, I took 3 years to get my rig done with triples 27' 1080p / 3070ti with a g920 on it and only managed to step up to the DD world 3 months ago, by selling other stuff I had.
fanatec are a really terrible company these days, honestly go with any of the other brands you'll get a far superior product and customer service .