Japanese Music Theory I: Scales

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  • čas přidán 4. 10. 2023
  • Today we will talk about Fumio Koizumi and his work unraveling the Japanese melodic construction in music primarily from the Edo period. Fumio Koizumi was an ethnomusicologist who probably had to register for a few passports in his life time. He traveled to over 30 countries studying their music and culture. Koizumi’s most significant contribution was creating a system and explanation for Japanese traditional music and melodies.
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Komentáře • 42

  • @prarobinson
    @prarobinson Před 8 měsíci +14

    But 'tetra' means 'four', so isn't it a tetrachord because it's based on the 4th?

    • @TairyuShakuhachi
      @TairyuShakuhachi  Před 8 měsíci +12

      Correct. I must of written it unclearly when speaking. Thanks for the comment and clarification

  • @UmbraMonarch
    @UmbraMonarch Před 5 měsíci +15

    I've been looking deeply into japanese music theory of late and was suprised at how scarse videos on this topic was. This was super helpful! Thank you so much, I'm excited for the next installment!

    • @TairyuShakuhachi
      @TairyuShakuhachi  Před 5 měsíci +4

      I have made about 8 of them, check them out on my channel. :-)

  • @oliversvensson1231
    @oliversvensson1231 Před 2 měsíci +5

    Being very experienced in historical european musiv theory, I find it very fun to learn about historical japanese music theory!

    • @TairyuShakuhachi
      @TairyuShakuhachi  Před 2 měsíci +3

      Its interesting stuff and this is just the tip of the iceberg. More to come!

    • @oliversvensson1231
      @oliversvensson1231 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@TairyuShakuhachi Sounds great!

  • @georgiasomething2064
    @georgiasomething2064 Před 15 dny +2

    thank you for this!

  • @tomiharu2928
    @tomiharu2928 Před 8 měsíci +8

    Incredible music theory resource!

  • @ShakuhachiSpirit
    @ShakuhachiSpirit Před 8 měsíci +8

    Very interesting. Someone now needs to research pitches since it was not in 12 tone equal temperament until recently (12 TET was strived for in classical period with comma systems, then perfected around 1900 with tuners in Europe). There is more to the story in terms of intervals in the old music.

    • @TairyuShakuhachi
      @TairyuShakuhachi  Před 8 měsíci +5

      There is a lot of research on that actually. It seems from what I have read that Japanese perhaps used a system close to the Pythagorean system.

    • @ShakuhachiSpirit
      @ShakuhachiSpirit Před 8 měsíci +3

      @@TairyuShakuhachi I also heard the Koto was tuned with Pythagorean system. Hard to say if various regions of time periods tweaked it with a comma like system.
      As you probably know, but some others reading this will not: Pythagorean tuning is by fifth to fifth. Very common for string instruments hundreds of years ago, since if you only have a few octaves, then the actual octave notes are close. The only way to tune in Just Intonation is to always play in one key, as in Raga music which sets a drone and then seeks perfect pitch.

    • @TairyuShakuhachi
      @TairyuShakuhachi  Před 8 měsíci +2

      @@ShakuhachiSpirit My next video is on the 12 note system in Japan. Perhaps I will do some research for a future video on tuning in general within Japan but I think you will enjoy Japanese Music Theory Part II

    • @ShakuhachiSpirit
      @ShakuhachiSpirit Před 8 měsíci +2

      @@TairyuShakuhachi Thanks - keep me posted. I am indeed fascinated by the ability of Shakuhachi to play just intonation with a drone and I have a sense that the Japanese were masters at listening to pitch before western colonization. The old recordings are not 12 TET - But they are amazingly precise and coherent.

  • @wyvernx666
    @wyvernx666 Před 3 měsíci +2

    Great information i was looking up information on hirajoshi scale and i learned so much more! thank you!

  • @pwdoconnor
    @pwdoconnor Před 8 měsíci +3

    This is excellent! Thank you for this!

  • @dokuya226
    @dokuya226 Před 4 měsíci +2

    This was awesome, thank you.

    • @TairyuShakuhachi
      @TairyuShakuhachi  Před 4 měsíci +1

      You are very welcome. Don’t forget the other 6 parts afterwards!

  • @joestatuto5287
    @joestatuto5287 Před 8 měsíci +2

    Wow, very interesting. Thank you for sharing.

  • @Luke-Nightingale
    @Luke-Nightingale Před 4 měsíci +2

    This is gold Tairyu San !

  • @popupexistence9253
    @popupexistence9253 Před 8 měsíci +2

    WOW this is exciting

  • @zadokallenpiano
    @zadokallenpiano Před 3 měsíci +3

    Hello, great video but I didn't quite understood the "jumping" and "connecting" process to create our scales
    How do we know when we use the one or the other ?

    • @TairyuShakuhachi
      @TairyuShakuhachi  Před 3 měsíci +2

      Basically only one variation ever uses it. But the way to know if you have it right or not is if the final note of the second tetra chord is also the same as your starting.
      Basically the scales after one tetra chord will always jump to the next note and never connect.

  • @jeanpierrecarpentier
    @jeanpierrecarpentier Před 12 dny +1

    🙏

  • @Sk0lzky
    @Sk0lzky Před 8 měsíci +3

    But Bach lived before the classicists formulated their funny rules :v
    Anyway it's amazing to have someone on youtube tackling this topic, time to binge :)

    • @TairyuShakuhachi
      @TairyuShakuhachi  Před 8 měsíci +1

      Correct. And the classicist got everything from bachs late writings

    • @FirstLast-uj9ud
      @FirstLast-uj9ud Před 4 měsíci

      The prohibition of parallel fifths and octaves existed a good 200+ years before Bach was born. And the "rules" of functional harmony always existed during the CPP, they just weren't properly codified until around the mid-19th century.

  • @gadtpmtj
    @gadtpmtj Před 3 měsíci +2

    Hi, does these japanese mode have a colour note like those in the church mode? For example the #6 is what make dorian sounds like dorian.

    • @TairyuShakuhachi
      @TairyuShakuhachi  Před 3 měsíci +3

      It would be the "set" which makes it sound like its scale.
      within gagaku there are three types of scales, Ritsu, Ryo, and Chukyoku, these three all use the same notes within their respective modes (Banshiki, Oshiki, Hyojo, Sojo, and Doyo)...and what makes pieces different is when they shift tonal centers. In my second Japanese Music theory Series I talk a little bit about this with the 12 tone system of Japan.

    • @gadtpmtj
      @gadtpmtj Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@TairyuShakuhachi thanks for the reply. Will definitely check out the other video.

  • @eduardoblancas8452
    @eduardoblancas8452 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Hi. I came here for solving a questions for my Music History homework. I need to learn the pentatonic scale and compose a song on this in only 20 days for an exam.
    I decided to compose a Japanese-inspired Mexican son called "Sones de Sumire" which I will dedicate to Natsuki Deguchi, my favourite actress.
    Do you think that koto would adapt to the fast rythms of a mexican son composition like the "Son de la Negra"? I have fear of errors that would cost me my qualification and my status.
    Please, help!
    I will be very thankful.
    Kano, from Mexico

  • @ameliamctavish
    @ameliamctavish Před 2 měsíci +1

    8:41 bookmark

  • @verocola6335
    @verocola6335 Před měsícem

    VERY THEORIC AND TOTALLY USELESS FOR THE GENETAL PUBLIC, THE MAJORITY OF THE VIDEO IS A MUMBO JUMBO OF MUSICAL NOTES BY THEIR "LETTER"... TOTALLY MEANINGLESS UNLESS YOU ARE A MUSICIAN IS LIKE DESCRIBING COLORS WITH WORDS INSTEAD OF SHOWING THE COLORS THEMSELVES... LIKE THE COLOUR MAUVE WITH FUSCIA TONES..
    🤔 😝 😝 😝... 😬