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0:00 My crazy entitled mother secretly recorded my therapy session, and is now threatening to sue me for the things I said about her, claiming my private comments as slanderous lies! (u/who_asked4569)
4:39 My girlfriend invited me out to a NYE party, but I really wanted to have something a bit more private. Now, I fell like I am being dragged into something I am not comfortable with, and I donât know what to do. (u/ThrowRAthetruth)
10:55 My new partner is really boring to me, and I donât know what to do. (u/Fantastic-Wave-8460)
14:28 My Entitled Coworker is constantly harassing me at work and always putting me down, and I donât know what to do. (u/SyllabubLeather3893)
18:43 My girlfriend is a complete hypocrite, and is treating me terribly, and I donât know what to do. (u/Prestigious_Rip_1948)
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"You need to stop telling people I am a bad person"
I hate this saying with a passion, as it was exactly what my mother would say before I went to therapy sessions I had for my anxiety. I wondered why I had anxiety problems until I left that household.
She should stop being a bad person then
My mom said the same thing when we started family therapy.
I just stopped talking altogether in those sessions because I knew she'd blow up if I said something she didn't like-
Narcissists are just the worst
She can't sue you for slander unless 1. it's false, 2. you know it's false, 3. it actually affected her reputation and damages her in a concrete way
and 1 it not false 2 she knows it not false and 3 not sure on 3 but im 99 percent sure she probably has a terrible reputation
And youâre forgetting step 0, is it even legal to record someone without their consent during a therapy session? Quick answer, no itâs very illegal.
It was a PRIVATE therapy session and likely uses basic confidentiality
Unless it is information about someone trying to hurt - people, things, themselves, or is said you can share it - That information is not to be shared.
@@UnlimitedEmeralds the therapy session was in the moms living room. She had a camera up in her own house.
@@llcoojoe20 go ahead, put a camera in your bathroom and see what happens. âYour house your rulesâ is not a law, nor does it enable you to break the law. Even in Texas, you canât record a private medical appointment without consent of the medical professional or the patient. The mother has absolutely zero legal grounds to sue and could even get herself in legal trouble for presenting this information to a judge.
Hidden recordings are illegal evidence. And secretly recording someone is illegal too
That mom will get in huge trouble & possibly go to jail.
Only if your in a two party consent state. If your in a one party itâs not illegal.
@@richardzedrahl4016 but, one party consent requires one person in the party to know and grant permission to record. Texas is a one party consent state. Since the mom was not present, the recording is illegal and could be charged with wiretapping.
In England itâs not illegal and in a lot of American states itâs not illegal but doing this in a therapy session is illegal in most states and England
Exactly. That's a mistrial.
Okay, so I'm in therapy, and here's what I know.
This is in violation of the patient privacy act, she cannot legally do this.
story 1: OP needs to move away from their mother
story 2: OP needs to rethink their relationship
story 3: same as story 2
story 4: hope OP never have to see them at work again
story 5: dude needs to pull out and leave
yep story 4 is just toxic work relationship and op needs to break things up with her.
The 5th story sounds like sheâs cheating⊠op should gfto and run đââïž from that minefield
Let the mom in the first story sue, and watch as she's laughed out of the court... and into the cell.
Exactly. She wanna use illegally obtained material as evidence for a civil case. Lol.
Oh dude that first one made my blood boil- My mom got angry at me for not wanting to attend family therapy since I knew she wouldn't like what I had to say and would take it out on me at home-
The fact that the mom in the first story recorded the session and had the audacity to say what she did and threaten OP is just absolutely infuriating-
What a narcissistic jerk
Also dude the last story is a classic case of projection he needs to RUN
Let her sue you, then countersue for invasion of privacy, secretly recording you, and HIPAA violations (yes, _this_ is something that HIPAA actually covers).
Problem is HIPPA only applies to health providers and others that legally have access to medical information, not the general public.
Yeah I agree I worked in a hospital before I just keep my mouth shut that mom is going to going to prions for one year and get a 500,000$ fine for it đ€ŠđŒââïžđĄ itâs makes me so angry people doing that
@@rhfgssdtgt4199 correct, but HIPAA _does_ apply to people who do illegal things to get medical information they do not have legal access to.
In regards to the first story: just take your mum to court on basis of invasion of privacy! or let her take you you to court and tell them that the recordings are from your therapy session that you had to have in your home due to the covid situation. and considering the law in your state I don't think the judge would actually consider her story and reason for taking you to court to be a wise decision on her part and either slap her with an enormous fine or send her to prison. You should also probably tell to the Court about your childhood and how you were literally forced to care for everybody else in your family why your mother is basically a giant lazy b. And definitely ask for a restraining order and that she shows the police were the camera is so you can destroy it! I really think that's the best option for you.
In regards to the fourth story: you should definitely report her to human resources and tell them that you are experiencing a toxic work environment because of her and that you are being mistreated by her. and you should definitely include that if they don't do anything that you are taking them to court for allowing a toxic work environment to Fester. legal action usually is enough to get them off their lazy but and actually make them do some action ( if anybody who is in human resources read this then don't take this personally. I just have heard of a many stories about human resources don't do anything until it's too late. and a tip is there is one complaint do an immediate investigation incognito. it will save you later down the road) and she'll probably be fired or at least severely reprimanded. and you're not supposed to be able to do everything even after a month of service at that restaurant. just because you've been working there a while doesn't mean you will be able to do everything. plus I have kind of a similar problem that if people don't tell me what to do I don't know what to do. but anyway I hope that woman gets a big plate of karma.
Therapist might also have grounds to sue the patient's mother.
2:37 That's the whole point of a therapist, to say how you truly feel, even if it's about someone else.
Story 2: The Girlfriend has already checked out of the relationship and it's over - cut your losses and walk away
"don't talk about me to your friends" "stop telling people about my bad behaviour" LOL sounds like things i've heard myself. This mother is toxic to the core !
Story #1: So the mom wants to take the O.P. to court. MAN I wish I was a lawyer! Just thinking about all the fun I'd be able to have at the mom's expense is making me feel all tingly! I mean if she's really willing to BREAK THE LAW by SECRETLY RECORDING THE THERAPY SESSIONS, then it's pretty clear that the O.P. actually HAS A REASON to tell the therapist all that stuff!
The first story. Yes get a lawyer. If she wants to dig her own grave by revealing the illegal recordings she's made. Then personally I'd say let her. I do know that it is illegal and all and from what it sounds like. If this happens. The mother may be going to jail as well. Especially if she shows what she is recording in court. Ignoring what the mother did to OP for a second. Recording a therapy session without consent is a major health care wadda-call-it. The therapist might also bring a law suit against the mother as well.
Story #1: Never interrupt your enemy when they're making a mistake. Your mom doesn't behave like family, and seeing as she doesn't put your best interests as priority, I'd consider her an enemy.
Therapy is protected under HIPPA sheâs not supposed to have that information if ANYTHING you can sue her for getting medical information without your consent. Thatâs also against the law
That last story is unbelievably infuriating. That girl needed to be single yesterday
That 4th story hits so close to home, i left my first job shortly after i was basically put down by both a co-worker and the boss in the first week, made fun of by the boss for my choice in career, and was told i wasn't performing well in my first week for not understanding certain things or needing clarification, not to mention the co-worker constantly tattles on me when i either ask a question or mess something up by accident, and after talking to friends and family, decided to just leave it and be done with it since it was just unacceptable for them to treat me like that.
I would counter sue. Illegal surveillance, extortion, intentional infliction of emotional stress, abuse of process, malicious prosecution, etc.
Story 1 I would say let her try to use them if she does that would mean she illegally recorded OP and in a court of law that would shut down her case in favor of OP
So, if the first story is true, I'd advise OP to get a lawyer involved. I'd also make the police aware. If your mom ended up suing, I'd suggest an Anti-SLAPP counter suit. Also, try having her arrested for breach of confidentiality and invasion of privacy.
21:40 (Girlfriend being a hypocrite)
The guy already lost his bubbly personality, so yeah, it'll come to a point where he has no expressions. It's bad for the OP's mental health I'm sure..
also-
Story 1: Santa Claus after hearing that it's illegal:
Tricky if itâs a place that allows 1 party consent then she can record.
But that being said in any court you can petition it be left out as it was confidential conversation with a therapist.
I hope OP sues her soon to disowned mother in proverty. That woman is a psychopath and needs to be in jail. The Karen waitress is being a spoiled bully that is trying to make OP either get fired or lose his job with her bullying
In the first story technology the daughter can take her mother to court for technically blackmail. Plus her mother secretly recording the therapy session is I believe a form of a violation of HIPAA. Which I believe could be a fine of around $50k and minimum 1 year prison (not jail PRISON). I would suggest taking her to court first but in a way I would highly suggest letting the mother take the daughter to court. That way her mother can stew in her own mistake and it will look even worse on the mother because it will be her big mistake of actually fallowing though with it. Either way it will look bad on the mother.
Story 2, The OP is writing as if they are victim but I feel a lot of controlling behavior there. There's things in the writing the lead me to believe that, "That's she's gonna do whatever she wants" and I simply have to deal with it. I'm suspect about only understanding one side of this story.
Elaborate please
Her following the 4 guys on Instagram and him saying âand she didnât tell me.â Rubbed me the wrong way. Why does she have to tell you? Def some controlling behavior there
@@Suisuihoz Little things, like question yourself. Why does he know all these things? He's spending waking moments prying into her life. She doesn't owe him explanations or justifications. There was also something he said "she's gonna do whatever she wants" and that bothers him? He should be coming to compromising and talking to her, but he comes online with breadcrumbs he admit leads to no hard evidence that is questionable he should even have any control over.
@@DigitalViscosity why is she meeting 4 guys at a hotel
Yeah, 2nd story didn't make sense to me either. At one point he said that he is a confident person, and then he shies away from a conversation that only has a chance to become a fight. And he didn't do this once, he did that for months, hoping the gf would forget about it. He sounds 'off' in a lot of ways
The therapy one no you are 100% absolutely not in the wrong. Itâs illegal to do that and to use it as blackmail is downright awful. I too have a therapist and what we talk about is no oneâs business but my own the fact your mom went out of her way to do this to you is horrible. Iâll send all the virtual hugs that I can and hope you can settle this.
Story 1: let her sue you, let her amber heard herself. There's an exact 0% chance she will win. Story 3: hopefully your boss steps up and fires the toxic worker who is harassing you.
Story 4: I was thinking of feminist but narcissist fits too. Why are you with her? It's not a healthy relationship.
"My dog stepped on a bee."
Anyone that uniroically uses the term manspread is a feminist
I really like this narrator. He listens to the story and shows a lot of empathy and thought to the OP on each story. The other narrator makes every story about himself, and it drives me nuts, I always skip the commentary or the whole vid. I hope he learns a bit from this one. Always love these stories and your comments!
Last story: dude needs to drop this crazy chick. How do you not see that she's a manipulator and narcissist? Let her go why ruin yourself for someone like her?
First story:
OP, you said it yourself what your mother did is ILLEGAL. Whether or not what you said is slander, ehat you said was said to your therapist durring a session that was meant to be 100% private between you and your therapist. I don't think she could use illegally obtained material as evidence, especially for a civil (and not criminal) case
There is 2 things who make 1st story had more problems for OP too.
1st she is jobless and with a kid.
2nd she can't move on because of that reason as well. So have an attorney will be hard too.
Story 2-Right off the back OP sounds exhausting. They want to do something with the SO but only bring it up once in conversations (6? months before hand) donât attempt to make any plans themselves and they makes all these excuses as to why a cultural event theyâre connected too will make them feel left out because they donât know anything about their culture. LikeâŠhow is that your girlfriends fault? If you wanted to do something special why didnât you actively make plans with your GF leading up to this so sheâd have a reason to decline her friends. You never verbally tell her you donât want to go the two times sheâs asks about it before she and her friends get tickets. Snd then you get upset she doesnât report every single detail of her night after plans change to you. And the storyâs not even over!
I saw another comment that said sheâs checked out of the relationship. Good for her! Because again, you sound so draining to be with.
Story 2: OP needs to rethink their relationship. If they feel their girlfriend is lying, putting friends over them, etcâŠthey should leave.
Also it is *never* to late for someone in a relationship to determine they will chill with their partner. These are friends and while friends are important it is also important to try and do the âfirst ofâ milestones with the partner. If a female said this, AITJ (in my opinion) would be on the guyâs case for ignoring the theoretical gf.
That said, OP needs to either grow a pair or leave. OP not speaking up is a result of either a) not being confident enough to know his worth and state what they want or b) not feeling comfortable with their gf enough to speak up. In either case, OP needs to reflect on themself and the relationship and see why they are in the situation they are in.
Step one, go no contact, step two press charges for invasion of privacy, Step 3 let her take you to court and counter sue.
Well that's therapy gone for that person forever
she never had a case to begin with, if I remember what she was indeed illegal & could look at serious jail time for recording someone without someone's consent even if it's family, there's reason why it's called confidentiality, it's between her & the therapist, telling her not to tell anybody about her she just made herself out to be a bigger monster & the fact she says she did nothing wrong just made it worse it's lie after lie, she tells one lie only to tell another one in its place.
They might want to double check because while it may be illegal to record a private conversation it is perfectly legal to monitor your property via cameras. In that case it would have to be proven the camera was put in place specifically for recording OPs therapy sessions.
Doesn't matter. Mother was not involved in the conversation and while she won't get into trouble for having the camera she will get into trouble if she tries using the recording of the therapy session to sue. It's illegal evidence and while Texas is a one party consent state, that only applies if you are actually part of the conversation. It's also illegal in every state to record medical appointments. It's seen as a HIPAA violation
â@@tanandalynch9441 wasn't HIPAA meant for medical personnel only?
Story 1. Sue her. She just proved she is a narcissist and the reason you need therapy in the first place. With these recordings and her threats, she has set back your therapy by years,,, even maybe back to the start of why you needed therapy in the first place. What she did was illegal and unethical, because a therapist is not allowed to share that information with anybody or they, themselves can be sued and lose their license to practice
All you have to do is get her to admit to what she did in court, which sounds like she would be boasting about it to a judge
Let her take it to court. Watch how she gets destroyed by your lawyer/attorney, the jury and the judge.
The mom recording the therapy session sounds like something my dad would do
First story : Just sue her first for the illegal recording of your therapy session. I don't know how it works in texas but I'm pretty sure in most cases all parties need to be made aware of the cameras in the shared spaces
1st story: op needs to find out if it is legal to have a camera in a public living space without other people in the house knowing about it.
It is. But even if it's not, the therapy session recorded upon it makes it illegal evidence. You cannot record medical appointments. It's a HIPAA violation and the mother also violates the consent laws as she wasn't part of the conversation
Yeah it's illegal to have concealed cameras unless you tell the people who live there about them.
I'm 13 and have been shaken my leg since 7 it reduces my stress with school and quizzes
Story 1: not a jerk l. What I would do is counter sue if she does press charges
I think the best course of action would be to let the mother sue for slander. Since said recording is illegal, and obtained illegally, OP can counter sue. And drain the mother.
the 4th story op should just match her energy the next time they work together. If no one gonna stand up for you, you gotta do it yourselves.
In the story with the girl and her friends going to a hotel for the "bathroom" it was found out she was cheating.
3rd story can be solved with OP talking to the guy but she wonât like most women. She will let these minor problems grow until they break up or she cheats.
Story 1: If your mom tries to sue you, i would immediately counter-sue for invasion of privacy. Also, since it is illegal where the OP is from, i'd press charges against the mother.
Story 2: I'd tread very carefully with this gf. So many red flags here about her and her behaviour. Only a matter of time before she cheats.... if she hasn't already.
Story 3: OP could be overthinking some small things, but it doesn't seem like the 2 of you are really compatible overall.
Story 4: If i were the OP, i'd keep the owner in the loop more on this person. This person is very vile and almost seems territorial. Being in the restaurant biz, i see a ton of cooks and servers who act very hostile towards others because they feel their job/position being threatened in some way. I'd be going out of my way to make sure i never work any shifts with that person again, because eventually, crap will hit the fan.
Story 5: The gf here is a complete bag. Dump her, and like yesterday. The longer you're with her, the worse she'll get.
Story 1: that woman is crazy therapy is private that woman is needed out of your life
Yesssssss Sonic Adventure 2!!! Too bad Iâm packing boxes while listening. May have to rewatch for the gameplay footage lol
Story 1 - just poke and poke. Let her take you to court, sheâs gonna have a shock when she gets there. She could legit end up in jail.
Omfg, i used to have that sonic game when i was young. Absolutely loved it every single day.
Fully off topic, but the youtuber is playing my favorite game
the mother is so crazy, but i hope that op can take her to court.
She can. The recording on that camera is illegal evidence and op can easily sue for invasion of privacy. Texas may be a one party consent state However nobody actually involved in that conversation consented and no matter the state or location you cannot record a medical appointment, which is what therapy sessions fall under. The mother has no ground to stand on and she knows it, she's just making op squirm with that looming threat.
Recording therapy sessions without consent is illegal. Mother should be charged with privacy violations abd the recordings would be inadmissible in any court.
Itâs cool that you have this video uploaded on my birthday, December 30th.
I dare her to report them lol. I'd love to see how the court handles that
That last one though
âYou need to stop telling people Iâm a bad personâ
Then donât be a bad person, itâs a simple concept.
I am a relatively confident person
"Continues to throw his insecurities over a damn trip with his gf"
Story 3 is peak entitlement. Bf wants sex every time you hang out and that's bad, but it's okay for you to want to go out every time. Bf then says you're digging into his wallet. Even if you pay for half the dates, you can still drain his finances by dragging him into spending his money more often than he wants to. It doesn't seem very complicated to me.
This is why the modern dating scene is so insufferable. Smh.
I love how AItJ tells her "lol, just keep thinking you can change him - if the superficial stuff feels good, focus on that!" And in such a confident tone, too! :D
NGL, sometimes I wish we could just mute out his responses and just get the stories, tbh...
Story 1 - Nah, she isn't a party in the recordings. Even one party states require the recording person to be in the recordings. Sue her first
Story 1 Ide have the mother thrown in prison and sue her for everything she is worth.
I think I'd be both impressed and disapointed if the mother managed to find a lawyer stuoid enough to take a case where their client's entire case hinges on evidence they obtained illegaly.
Happy New Year
That's why I journal.
Recording the therapy sessions like that is also a HIPAA violation.
Story 1: I'd just sue her to begin with. She's a horrible person.
Therapy sessions are private. It is literally illegal for the therapist to share details of what someone has said without their consent. That information is to remain private unless the patient gives permission to release the information. To record a PRIVATE session with private information is very much illegal. The mother's "threat" will just come back to bite her in the butt if she goes through with it.
Mom is breaking HIPPA laws. Court would see her indicted.
Number 3: she is a walking red flag.
Put your mom in jail go press charges.
The first story, I wonder why op is in therapy
He is absolutely right your next session should be with the police
10:21 this story kinda reminds me of what's happening with me although it's more lighthearted. My bf and I have been together for 10 months and this'll be our first new years together. My dad has been supporting the idea of my boyfriend and I going out for new years so it can be special just between us. However I wasn't fully set on what we were gonna do and I talked to my boyfriend and he asked what my family does for new years since his family doesn't stay up for new years and just sleeps the night away. I told him my family has traditions we do every year: turn on our cars, turn on all the lights, have change in our pockets, all the doors open, the fridges and freezer open and we have a big, somewhat expensive meal (lobster tails with filets and twice baked potatoes). And although he was confused about the traditions, he said he'd love to be a part of it with my family since he thinks my family is much more exciting than his. It warms my heart knowing he wants to spend time with my family for new years even if he thinks our new years traditions are odd.
I'm confused too. If refrigerator is running while it's door is open that can lead to it burning out (or just to giant electricity bill)
@@worldspam5682 we only leave everything open and on for a second when it hits midnight. The traditions my family does represent certain things. The fridge being open represents our want to have food in the fridge, the lights on represent wanting our lights to stay on, the change in our pockets represent the want of wanting money to come in our lives and the cars being turned represents us hoping our cars function well into the new year.
@@fionna_cool_girl well, that looks like after such tradition I would be left only with change in my pockets, because that looks pretty expensive.
@@worldspam5682 it's really not. We only do it just before the clock hits midnight. We don't leave everything on for a long while
2nd story, she probably thought going to the party WAS "doing something together".... Also OP says he's a confident person, but everything he says points to the opposite.
That 4th story seems like confirmation bias from both sides happening.
Last story 100% narcissist
I am absolutely dumbfounded by the mother in the first story. She literally recorded a therapy session (WHICH SHOULD BE PRIVATE) and threatened to use it against them in court. WHAT?!
broz playing sonic adventure
This game is my childhood
I swear that city in that Sonic game was built on a mountain
1st story: Your mom just proof to to you that she really is a terrible mother.
If I remember correctly therpists counselors anyone in that practice studies confidentiality in any case of any braking said rule could or can be tried for braking the law. In any case there're in hot water for going against said rule.
I hope there is an update and she got justice
2nd op shouldn't have agreed to go if he didnât want to.
Yo can we get a part 2 on the service dog entitled mom thing on tik Tok pls
Story 4. HR better get their sht together. Coz i would have gone ballistic on her
This girl sounds like if you get in a situation with her you will have a full grown KAREN on your hands. May I just say, do not go into a relationship thinking that you can change the other person PERIOD. If its a habit you want them to break, get it taken care of before. Lieing is a habit also. And it does not change just by wanting it to. If I were in your shoes, I'd get out before you get any closer. Sorry.
The last story,she sounds insecure. Honestly, her negative attitude can affect u so,me,personally, I would end it.
Well,I would also take her to therapy
"I just want to look pretty". For whom?
Is it the mothers house? Does Texas allow you to record inside your home without consent from other people?
Anyone who says "man spreading" in a non-joking manner, with the exception to when men spread their knees 3 feet wide, is toxic. I'm bot injuring myself or playing with my manbits to not injure myself because someone wants to put a bag somewhere. We can share that spot.
4TH story i get so much. there was this guy who worked with me(thankfully i only had him one of the two days i worked) and omfg he drove me up the wall, he would always play his music at full volume in the brake room while iam trying to read, and always just the one line. If you asked him to do anything he would give you an adatuide, he acted like he owned the place. Whenever he sneezed for some reason he had to shout, and i mean full on, SHOUT. First few times he did that my head would always snap up and look around becuse i thought i was in trouble! Thankfully he had two jobs and his 2nd moved his hours so i dont have to deal with him anymore but omfg he was so annoying.
3:24. Not "especially when they are not involved." It is ONLY illegal if you are not involved. Texas is a single party consent state. Meaning someone has the right to record conversations they are in.
Single party consent is much better than two party consent because two party consent states just use the two party consent to cover up corruption and abuse.
For example, the reason why Johhny Depp lost in his original divorce proceedings with Amber Heard, despite having recordings of her abusing him, is because California is a two party consent state and Amber didn't "consent" to having the evidence of her abusing Johny recorded and used against her. Really two party consent is corrupt and is used by politicians all the time to cover up their corruption and hypocrisy because they can gag order any unfavorable recordings of them.
But here, her mom wasn't the one talking AND therapy is afforded protections. Her mom was totally wrong.
Last story. This woman is narcissist as it says in the textbook
The mom in story 1 seriously could have been my mom
Story 3, that's an absurd situation. How can you even consider it a viable relationship when you can't have an enjoyable conversation with that person?
last story......the gf is projecting......all the stuff she accuses him of doing (what his body language is saying), is more than likely what she means/implies when she does those things
Story 1: My response would've been you can't file a case against me if I do it to you first. Then file a violation of privacy case against her. You would just need to find the camera, or record a conversation with her where she is admiting that she recorded you without your consent and without her presence. This would ensure it does not fall under Texas' One Party Clause.