A Scrambler can scramble, right?
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- čas přidán 14. 11. 2017
- A Scrambler can scramble, right? If a bike is called a "Scrambler" it's reasonable to think it can go off-road, so for the lols I decided to take my long term loaner Sinnis Scrambler down one of my favourite green lanes - how did it do??? Stay tuned to find out!
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I love the UK so much. The greenery I know is quite a substantial part to it's character but man, it always seems understated how green it is. I wish to someday visit and just see a winter up in the countryside, or travel through the Northern part of the country. Talk about beauty. Over here in the US we have similar scenery but it doesn't seem to fit that characteristic. We either have complete urbanization or vast swaths of wild land. But this seems to be a perfect mesh. The overcast is beautiful, etc. All complimented by a bike that, though Italian, seems to have found it's natural habitat. Great video yet again TMF!
Cheers John, you almost make the UK sound quite nice! Give me sunshine and less greenery any day!! Or is it a case of "the grass is always greener?". The bike is a Chinese import by the way, great fun for this sort of lark too.....
Haha Im sure the sunshine helps a lot, especially when dealing with that sort of mud. I didn't even know it was a Chinese export. interesting to find out. I've never been much a fan of the cafe style bike. Don't even own a bike yet but after watching your 390 Duke vid im hoping that'll be my first.
Great choice!
Don't just visit the north, the British Isles as a whole have some mental scenery, especially Scotland, Wales, the Peak District, the Lake District, Oxford/Buckingham/Berkshire, and central Ireland.
- I know the Irish would be pissed being called a part of the British Isles, but that's the geographic name for these islands since the Roman Empire...
Also the country lanes and greenlanes in the UK are "right" for motorcycles. Seems a wonderful place to ride a bike.
Love your videos. I'm doing a bit of binge watching here. This type of riding is great for people building their balance skills and can pay off big time when out on the road.
That was an interesting green lane. I like the look of that little bike, great for learners. Thanks again TMF.
Yes it's a hoot!
Very enjoyable video. Thanks for posting
I saw one of these on a ride out today and thought it was a pretty handy little plaything. I would like the same one in the 250cc version.
undeniable buddy... Chi bikes are a world away from the embarrassment they once were. !
They certainly are, this one, besides that loose side stand screw, has been great fun....the British Winter next and a bit of early morning commuting I think....always great to have you along, thanks for watching!
That was fun, thanks for taking us along.
Classy move at the end.
Cheers....
"Will I make it" ? Brilliant ! Just goes to show you don't need a Dakar style or expensive adventure bike to bring the kid out in you. You sure did "Scramble" up that hill. Well done
As a Chesham resident I thought I knew all the lanes around here, clearly I don't! Fortunately due to the wonders of google maps I now know where you ended up! Another great video.
I found that quite amusing and its funny how much of a workout that really is
A good challenge and put on the bucket list of things to do... I tried scrambling with a road bike with road tyre's it was like rideing on ice, and yes I ended up in the brambles twice but a fun day out............. cheers TMFlyer............
Yes it's not as easy as the pros make it look is it! ...especially in the UK where normally you're wading through thick mud - dry stuff or dusty tracks are a walk in the park in comparison!
Good to see a bit of dirt road action with the scrambler. its amazing how many people own one and don't get it dirty..RSM8
Cheers 02bigkev - it's go to be done!
I was talking to the bike along with you - "come on little bike, come on now!" lol. Great fun!!
I need all the encouragement I can get - cheers Scott as ever....
Something very satisfying about taking the wrong tool for the job and succeeding, took my little Honda MSX down a similar lane came back muddy but with a grin from ear to ear!!
I know what you mean, but in this case it was the right tool! ...hang on, perhaps I'm the right tool....
That was such fun to watch. Well done!
I want to see you take your GS up there ... 😎
No chance! I know my limitations!! I know the bike is good for it, not sure I am...
Brilliant thanks.
Great vid! That mud never shows like a big deal on-screen but it's like riding on marbles. Love the idea of this little bike - especially when I get bored of manhandling & picking the 700 up after dropping it in the mud. Do more of these (buy lots of bike cleaner) great! Interesting tires too ...
Thanks for that - glad you appreciate how easy I made this look (yeah right!!) :0)
Gorgeous looking bike, sir...🙂
Don't underestimate yourself TMF. You look pretty handy at off-roading. You obviously possess quite a bit of skill as I've watched all your greenlaning videos and you do well on them. I've yet to see you fall off
The wonder of editing eh? ;0) Thanks for the kind words - TMF
Fab ride, remimnds me why i dont do that type of ride, all that praying! I thought it was just me that talked to his bike, hahaha.
Reminds me of the Barons video when he green lanes his GSXR1000, possibly one of the funniest videos ever...
On a Thruxton!! Jeez, respect.
Nice bit of green-landing there...good work. You’re lucky to have a nice one so close. Apart from the too-close front mudguard it looks quite capable.
Yes it was surprisingly so....
Fine throttle and clutch control on the off road section, no substitute for experience as you've proved TMF! Nice looking little bike, just the thing for pootling
around on Sunday's.
cheers
tony
Really? Wow, thanks Tony...I'll take it :0)
It's a handsome little bike isn't it? Surprisingly so. I like it.
that looked really fun! awesome little bike too, I really am quite jealous of the sheer amount of greenlanes down south. Up here there's next to nowt.
There aren't that many near where I live, this one is about it!! Where are you based then?
I'm up in York, theres a few lanes around here but sadly the majority of them are closed to vehicles. There's only 1 close to me that you can actually ride down, but its only about 100 yards long. I did learn about a few "other routes with public access" tracks that you can ride down though which sort of broadened the off-roading spectrum a bit.
Great video
These bikes spend most of their lives on roads like that in most of the country's their sold in , simple and robust !
Well this long term loan is all about seeing how robust it is....the British Winter next!
Loved the video, interesting ride, I've never done off roading but can still appreciate the effort you put in :)
Thank you OGB - it's well worth a go if you get a chance, can only improve your general riding (a bit like doing a track day or two does)....
Im not so sure, at 73 years of age I think I will stick to tarmac, but eh one never knows. I will try and sit on a scrambler at the NEC on Saturday.
Excellent - brought back happy memories of my teenage years on mopeds using them in the woods around Buckinghamshire before everyone started fencing off their land and getting snotty about trespassers. You'd be amazed where a Yamaha FS1E can take you if you put your mind to it. Incidentally, my other half is a second-mortgage-mounted and jodhpur-wearing miscreant and she has advised me that when I'm out cycling (yes, I'm a MAMIL...) and passing horses I should let them know I am there before passing - engine noise per se (loud pipes aside) doesn't upset the horses too much but something suddenly appearing without warning can make them go bonkers. So don't cut the engine for too long otherwise you might get more than you bargained for!
....I'm not sure where to start Rick....thanks for watching and for stopping by!
Once again , well done! Clever you! :-)
I'm not sure it was that clever, but it was fun :0)
LOL, NEWB :-) Obviously never hurtled a Honda 90 Step-though in a bomb-hole before. Second gear? 88MPH! Anything could happen. Love it, keep 'em coming.
Congrats TMF, I enjoyed this video and you conquered the mountain. Having started my riding life on a BSA Bantam I have a particular interest to see how todays 125 may perform. Be encouraged as best as the Go-Pro showed you chose your lines well and showed the Sinnis to it's advantage. I won't be buying one however as obviously there is no tool kit under the seat. I'll go for the Honda.
I need to check that out, I didn't even think of the on-board toolkit....duh!
Another cracking vid , thx TMF and around Chesham ! me ol hood 👍
Nice one...
Finally got to see you tackle a green lane on one of your review bikes ! Been hoping for a while you'd attempt it given all the adventure retro scramblery bikes you tried recently, so well done. (Although thought your trusty steed was bauking at the sight of some mud at the beginning there with not wanting to start... :-)
...it's obviously a smarter bike than it looks!
Everything considered, nicely done Sir. As you alluded to, tyres (then weight, then suspension / engine) are priorities for off-roading. Any bike with the wrong tyres would struggle. Best advice I ever had was to gain momentum needed to get over the obstacle/gradient before you reach it. Stopping at the foot of a hill is asking for problems!
Sounds like good advice...I'll remember that!
Now this is the definition of scrambling! Almost makes me want one
Go for it, they don't cost much money and are a right hoot!
I only have one comment. You keep your bikes, garage and most things in pristine condition. However your boots look like they could do with a polish! Keep the videos coming. They are great!
Guilty as charged! Must have a word with Mrs Flyer to get her finger out!
Chesham! My home town. Been in the north for 13 years though. One day I hope to move back to that part of the world and cruise around on a Triumph. Sadly I can't afford a bike yet... :(
Not gonna lie, I’ve literally just bought this exact bike with the exact reg from the dealer! Loving seeing it on the road as it’s my first bike! Still in immaculate condition! Onto the CBT!
Wow - how cool!!
You should carry a Swiss Army Knife with you, always useful for tightening things and getting yourself out of situations.
I had the same problem with the Sinnis Terrain, regarding the side stand switch,
Yay, that was fun. Good going.
Cheers Nigel
Well done Mr Flyer good effort your off road skills are better than you think
Ha ha I'm under no illusions!! ....but thanks :0)
Perhaps an off road lesson/session would be a good idea to feel more confident off-road.
Good video material that would make a great learning opportunity for us all. "TMF Does an Off-road Riding Course". I look forward to it.
That's not off - road … that's what is called a dirt road , and not even as difficult as the easiest fire road . Nice effort non the less though … the only way to get good at it , is to get out there and do it . °\(ö)/° = )
brad b we are only testing out a cheap 125 Chinese bike here,he do the paris darkar run next week so stick around,stay tuned
Great Video as always TMF. It's always good to see an unbiased review on small cc Chinese bikes, you do get what you pay for but these cheap bikes get more people out on the road. OK bits can fall off but nothing that can't be fixed with a screwdriver or spanner!
As for your 2nd ending you have mentioned about those in Lycra tend to have a "Grimace" look on their face. Horse riders do tend to have more "Bounce & Rebound" when riding, that is always entertaining to watch!
Exactly Andy, I'll take female in jodhpurs over a 40 year old fella in Lycra anytime....but best not go there again!
TheMissendenFlyer 😂
This is really funny watching someone who doesn’t off-road much. I will give you credit though, it must be harder with street tires.
Well done sir, I enjoyed that! I can see myself buying one of those little buggers. :-D
Yes they are a right hoot - great bang for the $ so to speak....
What a laugh. Well done! I liked the way you frightened it so much at the thought of going off road that it wouldn't start. Poor little 125, you should be ashamed of yourself....Sooooo now you've set the precedent which is next to get the green lane treatment - the Triumph or Ducati scrambler LOL.
...I've got my Honda CRF for that! Having tried a bit of green laning I know it's much harder than it looks!!
He he he...just askin LOL.... I know, I had a day out with Trailquest on a Tiger 800 XCx 2 years ago and really enjoyed it and as you say I was a bit jaded at the end and was glad I was driving home rather than riding. I found it really worthwhile though.
Heavy breathing! Lane and bike look great fun. Nice MCN interview too TMF.
Thank you Ben - glad you saw it :0)
As you mentioned, you left your turn indicator on, for a while. I just want to welcome you as an honorary senior citizen. :)
Also, finally somebody who is almost as challenged in the dirt as I am. I would have turned back at the first sign of mud.
As always, enjoyed your posting.
Thanks (I think!)....
I habe a sinnis scrambler and i love it
Well done :) I carry a multi-tool thingy with me all the time :) Handy item
Yeah I really should do the same...cheers!
Oh the mud, way to go little Sinnis.
Well done mate!!!! Better than I could do by far!!!
Cheers Pete - and I'm sure it's not.....
TheMissendenFlyer just wanted to let you know I’ve purchased the 2017 GS Rallye and should have it in hand by this weekend. You’re ownership and great reviews of the GS over the years was a big help in making the decision. Now I have an Aprilia Tuono and a BMW GS which seems like a perfect 2 bike combo!
W'hey congratulations!! Lovely bike(s).....
Sidestand cut out switches, always a potential problem. I removed one from a Kawasaki 125 in the 1990s after it caused running issues.
Nice video TMF, Hmmm so quite a capable little beast then? Not surprising really I guess, but if I remember right from my years as a tyre fitter, the unknown brand Chinese tyres are usually made by Cheng Shin or Maxxis, both of who are well trusted brands on smaller bikes at the very least. Enjoyed this one, keep them coming, RSM8
Thank you Ian - will do....
Your skills are improving! Nice job. I know what you mean about the bicycle riders
Glad it's not just me!
Pity about the starting issue and stand fitment but they seemed a straight forward fix, otherwise the bike looked after you well and did itself proud. Impressed you didn't face plant in the mud. Thanks again TMF.
Cheers Colin, actually that loose stand screw (which was easily fixed when I got home) is so far the only issue I've had with the bike and I've been riding it now for about 3 months.....winter is coming of course!
Well done :-)
Hate to tell you so late in the day but a full tool kit is supplied under the hatch below the side panel!
Doh!
I got my Royal Enfield Interceptor,, great bike ,l used to have a Sinnis, blade ,
It sounded like the gearing was a bit tall for off roading, maybe try a smaller front sprocket and do it again 🙂 Nice video
Nice video! I recommend you definitely try out the Bullitt Hero/Herald Maverick. I have the latter and it's scrambling ability is excellent. Big swing arm, tyre, monoshock and inverted forks do help :D
Yeah these types of bike are a hoot aren't they.....I think they're all basically based on the same underlying machine....
TheMissendenFlyer Definitely!
Most of mine is derived from a Pulse adrenaline which makes parts if I ever need them very cheap!
The Great British tradition of adventuring is clearly still alive. His video should have been set to 'Land of Hope and glory'. Reminded me of Capt Cook, Dr Livingstone and the Everest Expedition of 1953. At one stage I feared your mummified remains would be found years later at the bottom of a muddy puddle. Great stuff TMF. How about booking yourself onto an off road course, acting as a sort of crash test dummy for all your subscribers? Will you be at Motorcycle Live next Thursday? It would be nice to say hello ....
I'm there on Monday!
Good video. Looks like you shot this a few weeks ago, you ended up in my village of Bellingdon.
Yes actually a couple of months ago (hence all the greenery still on the trees)....
Haha, love this vid, reminds me of when I went down a muddy track on my old Africa Twin on road tyres, I was paddling everywhere, stalling, out of breath and giving myself a running commentary inside my helmet! Constantly thinking I should turn around but not finding anywhere suitable to do that so just having to commit. 1 mile felt like 10! Love this channel MF.
Thank you Huw, you clearly knew how I felt!
It’s funny, back in the 70s we used to ride our 125s and 250s almost anywhere without thought. Now I’ve just reached my 60s I hesitate taking my Tiger 800 on a gravel track!
OldManTony I still do with my 110 underbone. Theyre not much more than a bicycle with a motor, skinny all-purpose tires. They were and are made under the assumption of bad roads. Ive explored where there are only maybe mountain bikers and armored-and-logo'd-up enduro guys around. Ironically, a super cub's skinny tires are better offroad in most situations than "scrambler" fat tires, and is more offroad capable than some "adventure" motorcycles.
Well done TMF, not bad for a newby. You need to go on the BMW GS course in Wales. Think of all the vids you could get out of it, not to mention the experience you'll get .
Yes I have thought of doing one of those, mainly fear that stops me.....
"c'mon boy you can do it." Now that's the spirit! Well done.
One of the worst things about that kind of riding on regular bikes is the pegs. Mud and rubber pegs don't mix. Especially when you're standing up on the bike. It's a great way to prepare for getting kicked in the nuts though.
Sounds like you speak from experience! ;0)
Not off to a good start hahah, I think it was trying to tell you that it really didn't want to go off-road.
Well done Sinnis, it did well in the end. I imagine it's not a bad little bike for a bit of light green laning and must be light and easy enough to pick up.
You left out the part about Captain Rambunctious successfully green laning on his old Thruxton but failed when he tried it on the Tiger 😝
...did he fail on the Tiger? I must have missed that one, oops! ...and yes the Sinnis is super-light compared to say your Scrambler (which I reckon I'd drop if I tried on this green lane)...you at the NEC next week??
TheMissendenFlyer Oh yes, he gave it a go on the Tiger but I think the conditions were against him. It was quite bad if I remember. There is a video somewhere.
Yes, my Scrambler wouldn’t cope with that mud. The rest of it should be okay.
I plan on going NEC on the last Sunday
Fantastic I was with you all the way.
Good man...and thank you....
I used to live in Chesham ,live near Wendover now,
You should have taken the Triumph Scrambler up there!
Nice video MissendenFlyer hope you have fun doing off road? :)
Haha top little bike , bet u couldn't wait get the bucket , sponge and air blower out .. top vid much respect
It was good as new within 45 minutes of filming :0) (and now ACF50'd too)...
Hmm, high level exhausts are notorious thigh burners and usually more for looks than purpose. I marshalled trials for a while, back then a number of riders had low level pipes because they got burnt so often. A low level system will have sufficient clearance for recreational off road use.
The trick on an Enfield is to disconnect the wretched side stand switch, the Sinnis is probably wired the same way - find the connector box.
Yeah good tips Jeff, if the bike were mine I'd defo change out the exhaust...
nice.. 1. i always carry with me a multi-tool pocket knife :) ;) 2. if the exhaust was a lower-level one, do you think that would be a problem? I am asking because I plan to buy the Daytona Rock ii 125. I have realised that chinese bike makers sell almost identical bikes with different brand names hehehe. be safe
Love the sound effects TMF, I think a smaller/lighter bike is better for off road. Less chance of giving it too much welly and ending up on your backside. The little scrambler seemed to cope well.
I 100% agree Daren...thanks for watching as ever...TMF
I have a Bullit Hero, this bike may well have a lithium battery like mine. In which case the battery has to 'warm up' when you turn the key dont instantly start it up. If you leave the headlight on for max 1 minute that should be sufficient enough to start the bike. I struggled to figure out why mine wouldnt start sometimes and because its a lithium battery. Also they cant be trickle charged so be careful.
Also, well done on that mud. I would be on the floor in minutes!
I've kept my eye on this bike for a while, how comfortable is it to ride on for an extended time? I've got bad knees and a bad lower back, so I'm just wondering how it feels? Love the vid, definitely considering one now!
+Evan Brignull It’s as comfy as any other bike I’ve ridden - sit upright, nice padded seat - no worries!
sounds like it wore you out mate! lol, getting used to sliding is key and not snatching at brakes. At least at that price it doesnt matter if you throw it down a few hills!
Mr.Flyer, I used the GoPro cameras for several years shooting video off of motorcycles and could never get stable enough video to satisfy my OCD. The post image stabilization quality of shaky video also drove me batty with the fuzzy margins and croping. Last year I switched to the Sony FDR-x3000 camera with Sony's optical image stabilization (ie Steady Shot). I havent used a GoPro since the first time I used the Sony. There is no need to stabilize the video in post, it is just smooth as silk. The video quality is every bit as good as the GoPro. I do have to bump the color saturation and contrast a bit is post to suit me but there is no comparison in video quality the Sony produces. All the GoPro accessories work with the Sony so there is no need to buy any of that again. You can check out some of the video from the Sony compared to the GoPro on my Chanel if you like. All my 2017 Colorado/Utah trip footage is was shot on the Sony. All the 2016 and earlier videos where shot on a GoPro Hero4. If you havent tried the Sony you might want to give it consideration...I am a long time subscriber...love your stuff....Ozarks Backroads...
I'm quite happy with the GoPro but I'll check out the Sony and your footage as you're clearly a big fan - thanks for stopping by - TMF
Great little review, nice little bike .. reminds me of back country roads in Sierra Leone... riding my DR650... lots of clutch control to avoid stalling.. I always used a drop of blue loctite on nuts and bolts ....
Very handy stuff!
Did wonder if it would go like Baron von Grumble's attempt on a sports bike :-)
Banditmanuk ii
...not seen that....
Its how I first noticed BVG
Only joking, course I've seen it, it's how he got famous.....like RJ's helping the old fella video....
hahahahaha....love it
I had a Sinnis Trackstar and despite being a fun little runaround, the aftercare from Sinnis was so abysmal I’ve forgotten about most of the good times I had on the bike. 7 weeks for a throttle cable, 4 weeks for a choke lever and very little interest in helping me from the staff. They just pointed me to a generic Chinese spares website despite the bike being under warranty. I went to Yamaha, they didn’t miss a beat. Massive potential for the company but they just don’t seem bothered after they’ve got your cash.
Have had same problem if sinnis (China moto) ect want to be taken seriously in moto market they need to lay the distribution parts & service infrastructure & all that 3 year warranty is codswallop.
2.20, the bike knew what was coming, refused to start🤣😂😅
Can't blame it with me on board!
My Sinnis blade had a tool kit,
Another great video TMF. Out of interest do you have to pay for the damages if you drop them.
...well the insurance company does...
A good honest vid:) I think you stress yourself out too much, let the bike do the work! Thru' muddy sections get your bum as far back on the seat as poss....it gives better grip for the rear wheel and lightens the front so it doesn't bog down. You can use your balance to steer thru' long muddy sections which eases the tension on your arms. Just my two penny's worth.
Sounds like good advice to me Pete - cheers!
That looked great fun, Sinnis appear to make good bikes? any chance of a review of their Blade?
You never know! I have this puppy until the Spring and maybe they'll let me?
I've got a blade they're brilliant fun on and offroad, will never sell mine. Think they've stopped selling them which is a shame, if they did a 250 blade I'd get one as soon as.
Mr TMF you need to join TRF and get more on your CRF on the green lanes it's good fun and intern you will be more confident on the lanes😀👍
...but I can't grow a beard and aren't that keen on real ale!
TheMissendenFlyer I haven't a beard and I only drink orange and lemonade when at TRF meeting so you should join your local one.Ps I don't think any of my local member have beards maybe one lol
have you attempted this on the gs at all?
No - I'm too precious about dropping it (or not being able to pick it up). It's too expensive for me to risk damaging....
I kept expecting to you say... “ooh me grapes”
firstly brilliant vid yet again mate ..... secondly your left indicator was on all threw the intro
...as per my caption czcams.com/video/nw6XMvjbIMs/video.html ;0)
sssshheevh I didn't see that I just kept looking at the indicator flashing like a moth to a flame.....hahaha
As someone who is also prone to leaving an indicator on, I don’t understand why manufacturers do not also put indicator light strips along the top of the wing mirrors so that we have a better chance of seeing them. I know it might cost extra and also when repairing, but I think from a safety point of view it would be worth it.
Ok, now for comparison, we just need to see you go up that lane on the GS... At least the Sinnis would be easier to pick up than that monster!
That aint going to happen....the bike is well capable of it, the rider not....
Well hat looked like fun knowing how much you Don't like to do off road he he
It was a hoot actually, but quite enough for one day....
The moss between the paving slabs on the drive is enough off road for me.
I tend to agree!
He only did this so he could clean the bike
cleaning is like porn for him : )
12,43 bolt loose, unfortunately I haven't got a screwdriver ...you're obv not a mechanic!
That lane goes past what used to be an ostrich farm, they use to sell ostrich burgers!!, i'm not far from there.
Theres also a greenlane not far from Cholesbury, its pretty long but problem is like this one its horse/dog walker central
Yeah I've done that one many times, here >> czcams.com/video/OMrGciy4DUs/video.html annd here >> czcams.com/video/CT-iNxgMYJw/video.html for example......
Aha, nice one!
You can green lane on any bike... I wonder how much abuse the more stylised bikes can take over time! :-)
Yes good points!
You can do that trail on a scooter lol