Let's Talk About Harold Ballard, Leafs Sole Owner From 1972 Through 1990

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  • čas přidán 3. 06. 2019
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  • @CuriousOfficial
    @CuriousOfficial Před 3 lety +577

    Who's here after UrinatingTree's video about the Maple Leafs.

  • @janoycresva1930
    @janoycresva1930 Před 4 lety +307

    "women are best in one position on their backs"
    Bold comment from a man who looked like he had to pay for it

    • @nt3753
      @nt3753 Před 3 lety +12

      so did robert kraft

    • @janoycresva2279
      @janoycresva2279 Před 3 lety +4

      IT SICK IT PISS
      IT REVOLTING IT INSULTING

    • @stevelowry794
      @stevelowry794 Před 3 lety +3

      Sickening crossover m'lord. Tis both sick & piss.

    • @kirkshairpiece6741
      @kirkshairpiece6741 Před 3 lety

      Research in the field

    • @kerriwilson7732
      @kerriwilson7732 Před 3 lety +4

      Hilarious!
      The guy is like 76 years old here. Still feisty & mad as an 18 year old.
      Lousy for the Leafs? Yeah... but the Leafs are still a money making machine, so?

  • @pumpkinking5174
    @pumpkinking5174 Před 5 lety +356

    After it was announced that Roger Neilson was elected to the hall of fame, Neilson did a press conference in Ottawa and was talking about Ballard....he first looked up, then looked down and said yeah, he's probably down there.....

  • @EBobyay
    @EBobyay Před 5 lety +329

    I heard that Ballard once shut off the fountains during a massive heatwave in order to sell more pop

    • @maxpowr90
      @maxpowr90 Před 5 lety +40

      Definitely true as well, want to say it was during a Stones concert. This is sadly a pretty common tactic at a lot of outdoor venues; where they may have 1 or 2 fountains working just to cover their asses. Worked at a Jeremy Jacobs concert venue in high school.

    • @tissuebox7817
      @tissuebox7817 Před 5 lety +44

      He did it while the Beatles were touring in '64, he turned the heat on in the arena and shut off all the water fountains, and at least doubled the prices on all soft drinks, what a dick 😠

    • @ALuimes
      @ALuimes Před 3 lety +5

      @@tissuebox7817 And only sold it in large size

    • @christopherwall2121
      @christopherwall2121 Před 3 lety +7

      @@tissuebox7817 he also double-booked the Beatles for the Gardens and didn't bother telling them.

    • @tissuebox7817
      @tissuebox7817 Před 3 lety +8

      @Eilliw Nodrog that is also true lol he also neglected and alienated countless players and staff who he didn't like, agree with or who didn't like him. And refused to respect and retire many players' jersey numbers to the rafters. I can understand Dave Keon being wounded from ballard all those years 😔

  • @patch8376
    @patch8376 Před 5 lety +285

    "Tremendously inspiring. A true saint." - Eugene Melnyk

    • @markdemell3717
      @markdemell3717 Před 3 lety +5

      Melnyk ,big pharma demon.

    • @otaviofrn_adv
      @otaviofrn_adv Před 3 lety +13

      For real, Melnyk is a saint when put side by side with Ballard, and he done some diabolical things

    • @DarkKirby14LP
      @DarkKirby14LP Před 3 lety +7

      Melnyk fucking Melnyk

    • @dickbuttkiss6002
      @dickbuttkiss6002 Před 3 lety

      Ottawa gave him a liver, in return he screws them over

    • @sopowerabboy
      @sopowerabboy Před 3 lety +1

      Forgot James Dolan.

  • @vincentbrett7820
    @vincentbrett7820 Před 4 lety +206

    I had a run in with Ballard in the summer of 1983 while waiting to try and meet Roger Waters. He called me a freak because of the way I was dressed and I called him an escapee from the old folks home. Then he banned me for life. Of course I was in the building 2 hours later watching the concert.

    • @otaviofrn_adv
      @otaviofrn_adv Před 3 lety +9

      Tell the Leafs to f themselves and enjoy the concert.

    • @tummytalk605
      @tummytalk605 Před 3 lety +7

      Why would he even talk to you?

    • @Outta-hz1ej
      @Outta-hz1ej Před 3 lety +13

      Wait, that was The Wall tour, right? Damn, that's my favorite of theirs

    • @dusk6159
      @dusk6159 Před 2 lety +3

      How did it even happen that he talked to you? That alone is pretty weird

    • @vincentbrett7820
      @vincentbrett7820 Před 2 lety +11

      @@dusk6159 We were waiting for Roger Waters and Ballard pillée up in his caddy and he had to make a comment on my attire

  • @spencerfurman4705
    @spencerfurman4705 Před 3 lety +115

    I saw a comment from UrinatingTree’s video on the “Half-Century of Failure” of the Maple Leafs that said “Harold Ballard makes Eugene Melnyk look like Mike Illitch.”

  • @nicksojka7457
    @nicksojka7457 Před 3 lety +74

    Jim Gregory, the Leafs' GM immediately before Punch Imlach, was never informed by Ballard that he had been fired. He only found out when a league executive called him and offered him another job.

    • @dannythomas417
      @dannythomas417 Před rokem

      Yeah, Gregory was such a good man that Lamoriello won two awards after he died.

    • @pjpredhomme7699
      @pjpredhomme7699 Před měsícem

      Jim Gregory was a fantastic GM - he was great at drafting - but the circus that Ballard was ended up with those running players out of town.

  • @glennmarian6869
    @glennmarian6869 Před 5 lety +93

    He had his own army of scalper and would send them out to sell tickets on the street a well over double face value.

    • @luc0007
      @luc0007 Před 3 měsíci

      I need more info on this... I think my dad may have been part of this (when he was like 13-15).
      One time he got busted at a Rush concert for scalping, and Ballard got him off the hook and brought him and his scalper buddy backstage...
      Not glorifying scalping at all, but I'm curious if he was unwillingly part of a scalping crew run by Ballard

  • @farnorth7314
    @farnorth7314 Před 5 lety +121

    I lived through this nightmare...what a horrible man.

    • @otaviofrn_adv
      @otaviofrn_adv Před 3 lety +10

      I feel for you... The Leafs are still paying the price of his ownership

    • @vinceniederman
      @vinceniederman Před 3 lety +3

      @Far North As a Flyers Fan I Feel Bad For U Guys In Toronto!

    • @aussieaussie4848
      @aussieaussie4848 Před 3 lety +2

      He controls you beyond the grave

  • @sportsrook8282
    @sportsrook8282 Před 5 lety +130

    We all knew this video was coming.
    The Leafs during the Harold Ballard era: too good right now.

  • @dbassman27
    @dbassman27 Před 4 lety +62

    Ballard had one of the best GM's in the early '70's; Jim Gregory. Gregory put the team together that had Turnbull, Salming, Sittler and McDonald. Ballard fired him. Yes, I also lived through that travesty. Twenty lost years.

    • @otaviofrn_adv
      @otaviofrn_adv Před 3 lety +8

      Consider this: the only reason that Salming ever played for the Leafs is the fact that Ballard was in jail when they brought him

    • @johnpat3622
      @johnpat3622 Před 3 lety +1

      Ballard didn't fire Gregory. He left the Leafs to become director of Central Scouting for the NHL. Ballard then tried unsuccessfully to hire both Don Cherry and Scotty Bowman to replace both Gregory and Roger Neilson. When he couldn't get either of them, he brought Punch Imlach back, but it was clear he was no longer the same Punch that had built a dynasty in the sixties....

    • @dbassman27
      @dbassman27 Před 3 lety +6

      @@johnpat3622 According to Gord Stellick's book, Ballard fired Gregory after the 1979 season, but didn't have the courtesy to tell him to his face. Gregory found out when the NHL called him at his cottage and offered him a job. When Gregory said he was still with the Leafs, the NHL rep said Ballard told NHL head office Imlach was the new GM, and Gregory had been fired, So Gregory took the new job.

    • @johnpat3622
      @johnpat3622 Před 3 lety +4

      I stand corrected. What a hell of a way to find out you're fired. Vintage Ballard.

    • @andrewwong4725
      @andrewwong4725 Před 3 lety +5

      With all due respect, you may be too young to know the Ernie Moser story of yore. In 1969, Ballard may have not been the de facto owner, but he was the financial muscle of the organization. He inherited jim Gregory, who as you say was an extremely intelligent hockey man. At the time of the 1969 draft, a certain player was still on the board. Jim Gregory and the staff implored ballrd to take this individual at 9. No ... ballard doesn't want him. Draft someone else and they drafted ernie Moser who never played a game in Toronto. Who did Jim Gregory want that ballard did not?... hall of fame centre for the Philadelphia flyers bobby Clarke. Those Philadelphia flyer cups of the 70s are leafs could have been cups because of our lousy owner..

  • @666mathew
    @666mathew Před 5 lety +45

    When the Beatles played at Maple Leaf Gardens, Ballard raised turned off the a/c so the kids would be sweating and thirsty and buy drinks.

  • @omarthecat9
    @omarthecat9 Před 2 lety +6

    i will forever love UTree's celebration in his video of Harold Ballard dying, a true gift to hockey

    • @calebkent6706
      @calebkent6706 Před rokem

      Lol yea i never heard of ballard im new to watching nhl but am a fan of UrinatingTree when i watched trees video i learned of harold ballard…….yea what a character of a sports owner smh i pity the leafs fanbase

  • @Clutch28
    @Clutch28 Před 5 lety +108

    For those of you that weren't born and a hockey fan during the Ballard era....you have no idea how bad Ballard really was

    • @nicksojka7457
      @nicksojka7457 Před 3 lety +10

      And I'm grateful for that, even though I can imagine.

    • @markdemell3717
      @markdemell3717 Před 3 lety +1

      Lake of fore for him.

    • @carparthero
      @carparthero Před 3 lety +3

      @Clutch28, and for everything you said, you're right and it's true for the young generation. for myself as a non-leafs fan, i loved harold ballard and how he treated the leafs organization correct. personally i wish that modern medicine could have kept him alive today. the 1980's imo was the golden years of leafs hockey LMFAOO 🤣🤣🤣

    • @Clutch28
      @Clutch28 Před 3 lety +16

      @@carparthero You do realize that Ballard's ownership also hampered the NHL in efforts for expansion and other things, right? Well, no I don't think you do with how absolutely moronic your "statement" was.

    • @carparthero
      @carparthero Před 3 lety

      @@Clutch28 it's unfortunate you feel the way you do. you must be a salty curmudgeon leafs fan. that would be understandable to rationalize why you feel the animus you feel LMFAOO 💩
      the nhl with or without ballard till his death was a backwater league. str8 up the nhl didn't improve as a business till bettman came around in 1993 with a vison. even then the finances took time to turn around. today the league has never been better. obviously covid has taken a bite into the game but once that rides out, the nhl will be fine as the 4th major sport in the usa.
      in solidarity 🍁

  • @fizzyjecado
    @fizzyjecado Před 5 lety +34

    Ol Harold!!!! My dad told bad stories about him. Thanks for sharing!

    • @dannythomas417
      @dannythomas417 Před rokem

      Ballard was bad alright, but Lemaire is the official death of this team.

  • @Nickleblanc41
    @Nickleblanc41 Před 5 lety +37

    11:46 Eugene Melnyk - Challenge Accepted!

    • @lyallarblaster3416
      @lyallarblaster3416 Před 5 lety +1

      😂😂😂

    • @lyallarblaster3416
      @lyallarblaster3416 Před 5 lety +1

      ...cant breathe 🤣

    • @fahad203
      @fahad203 Před 4 lety +4

      Eugene Melnyk is a child angel comparing to Ballard. It's not even comparable. Bettman would have a heart attack if current NHL owners were like Ballard

    • @markdemell3717
      @markdemell3717 Před 3 lety

      Melnyk ,big pharma demon.

  • @ericdobrien
    @ericdobrien Před 5 lety +44

    “We’re gonna need a bigger board” ...

    • @MrUndersolo
      @MrUndersolo Před 3 lety +2

      That's the thing about a Ballard. It's got dead eyes, lifeless eyes, like a doll's eyes...

  • @hoosierman08
    @hoosierman08 Před 5 lety +48

    Did anyone notice the adventures of Bear during this video. Good video.

    • @not2tees
      @not2tees Před 5 lety +4

      Yes, she stuck right beside the Patrice Bergeron pennant.

    • @darrylcalder
      @darrylcalder Před 5 lety +6

      Hey, you moved the camera! How can anyone watch me lick myself? Alright, ill move on top of these jerseys...

  • @SteeleZack
    @SteeleZack Před 5 lety +31

    My dad who was Leafs fan up until both Sittler and McDonald were both gone, told me that he when he lived in Etobicoke, ON over 20 years ago he lived in the same apartment building that Ballard lived in prior.

    • @eddixon2015
      @eddixon2015 Před 3 lety

      Ioik

    • @pjpredhomme7699
      @pjpredhomme7699 Před 2 lety +1

      didn't Ballard live in an apartment in the gardens -i am pretty sure - he did during the 70s and 80s

  • @samuelfrick3475
    @samuelfrick3475 Před 5 lety +61

    You should do Bill Wirtz and his tenure with the Hawks. Very infamous by many Chicago fans to this day

    • @DjDannyBeee
      @DjDannyBeee Před 5 lety +3

      That one will hit home

    • @coldsnap5742
      @coldsnap5742 Před 5 lety +25

      "Don't try to win championships--they cost too much money!"
      --Dollar Bill Wirtz
      "Cups are worth every penny."
      --Rocky Wirtz, son of Bill

    • @Sacto1654
      @Sacto1654 Před 3 lety +7

      I think Chicagoans are more willing to forgive the Wirtz family after the Blackhawks won the Stanley Cup in 2010 and 2013. Fans will never forgive Harold Ballard for what he did to the Maple Leafs.

    • @SuperStrik9
      @SuperStrik9 Před 3 lety +3

      @@Sacto1654 You're 100% correct. As a lifelong Leafs fan and Torontonian the Leafs could win the Cup every year and I wouldn't forgive Ballard. I was a fan when he was the owner and the lack of success the team has had over the years I call "the curse of Harold Ballard". I hope they can purge it someday.

    • @GeorgiaBoy1961
      @GeorgiaBoy1961 Před 3 lety +3

      @@Sacto1654 - Re: "I think Chicagoans are more willing to forgive the Wirtz family after the Blackhawks won the Stanley Cup in 2010 and 2013."
      Hey, am I missing something? What about the 2015 Cup? Doesn't that one count, too?
      I am old-enough to remember Ballard. Generally-speaking, it's wrong to speak ill of the dead, but there's always an exception - and Ballard is one. He was a mean old man and a real b*stard! If my beloved Blackhawks can't win the 'cup, I'd love to see Leafs Nation win one and go nuts. They've been waiting a long time. As have the Buffalo Sabres - who've now been a half-century in the league, more or less, and have no cups to show for it. Two finals appearances, but that's as close as they have come. I'll never forget watching the famous SC Final game in 1975 when the Flyers and Sabres played game three in the fog at Memorial Colosseum. Buffalo won 3-2 in OT, but the Flyers won the series and the cup.
      Getting back to the Wirtz family, Rocky - the old man's son - is everything his dad wasn't. A real breath of fresh air. It was a stroke of genius to mend things with all of the former Blackhawks players - all-time greats - who'd been cast out by the old man, namely Bobby & Dennis Hull, Stan Mikita, Dennis Savard, Tony Esposito, etc. Sure am glad 'Stosh and the Golden Jet got to see the new generation win those cups.... you could tell it meant a great deal to them.
      I've been a hockey fan for a long time, maybe fifty-years or even fifty-five (yeah, I'm that old).... and I will always remember reading about the exploits of those great 1950s and 1960s Leafs teams. Dave Keon, Frank Mahovlich, Bobby Baun, Tim Horton, Johnny Bower & Terry Sawchuk, George Armstrong, Bob Pulford, you name it....
      This year's Leafs team looks scary. They're loaded. That's the good news for Leafs fans; the bad news is that so are some other teams. It should be another amazing post-season. Can't wait!

  • @kakarroto007
    @kakarroto007 Před 5 lety +21

    Dude's an infamous legend.

    • @dannythomas417
      @dannythomas417 Před rokem

      So are Lou Lamoriello and his friend Jacques Lemaire.

  • @ML.80
    @ML.80 Před 5 lety +43

    In Börje Salmings self biography there`s a lot to read about Ballard running the Leafs like it was a circus.

    • @brienneoffuckingtarth5362
      @brienneoffuckingtarth5362 Před 5 lety +15

      Salming is way too kind to Ballard in that biography. Probably because Ballard seemed to have a liking towards Börje, much like with Tiger Williams.

    • @nicksojka7457
      @nicksojka7457 Před 3 lety +2

      @@brienneoffuckingtarth5362 Really? I thought he hated Europeans?

    • @1bert719
      @1bert719 Před 3 lety +1

      Read Milos Frycers book. He's actually complimentary about Ballard. Only time I've ever seen such a thing.

    • @o.d.flores1219
      @o.d.flores1219 Před 3 lety +5

      Ballard covered up Salming's constant sinus problems which was really a cocaine problem...

    • @mckessa17
      @mckessa17 Před rokem

      @@o.d.flores1219 Yes Salming did have an issue but later became a fitness nut.

  • @jeffreycherep8264
    @jeffreycherep8264 Před 5 lety +19

    Holy wow! Just wow. I think the Nuttings (owners of the Pittsburgh Pirates) should never see this video,otherwise they'll see it as a "hold my beer" moment.

  • @JeffTheLeafsFan
    @JeffTheLeafsFan Před 2 lety +4

    He was part owner in the 1960's, and handled a lot of the business side of things. I read in a reliable article that when The Beatles played two shows at Maple Leafs Gardens in the summer of 1964, he actually had the heat put on in the building, and had the water fountains turned off in order to force people to go to the concession stands more often.

  • @kanekane1265
    @kanekane1265 Před 5 lety +20

    My first boss was kinda like that too. Very emotional and you never knew what's coming.
    Hard to work for for a longer period, but I could write a book with really strange stories.

  • @jediknightfalcon
    @jediknightfalcon Před 5 lety +13

    I've been telling Steve to do a video on this for years and he never did. Thank you for finally making a video on all the bullshit that this man caused to the leafs.

  • @masvindu
    @masvindu Před 5 lety +24

    One of my best friends is Dave Keons cousin on his fathers side, though he stopped talking to his father 30 years ago (for good reason), so has not seen Dave since - but I have learned that without a doubt, the Ballard resentment for them is/was incredibly intense lol.

    • @johnsmith7345
      @johnsmith7345 Před rokem

      First year I played hockey when they ask what number do you want I asked for 14 even though I played defence. He was my favourite player but always heard how bitter he was and would never come back to the Gardens. In those days no one wore 17 so I was disappointed to end up with that number. Wendel would not arrive for years to come.

  • @rodchallis8031
    @rodchallis8031 Před 5 lety +34

    That was hard to sit through, having watched it live all those years ago. Ballard had to be the star, that's why Keon, Sitler, the Banners and Hewitt had to be attacked. How some like Williams and Salming escaped that I don't know. The Leafs weren't supposed to win in '67, they were heading into a rebuild. And rebuild they did. I remember them getting competitive again just as the WHA arrived, and of course that was the end of that. And, they had a good team with Sitler, MacDonald, Salming etc., but Ballard blew that up too. As I said on your Rick Vaive video, I stopped watching the Leafs after MacDonald was traded. It was just too insane. I actually just listened to the news for Ballard's name, hoping that it was about him dying.

    • @michaelleroy9281
      @michaelleroy9281 Před 2 lety +1

      Haha Haha ( about Ballard)

    • @otaviofrn_adv
      @otaviofrn_adv Před rokem

      Salming escaped due to a couple of things: the timing of his arrival (when Ballard was arrested) and the lack of free agency

  • @heliumtrophy
    @heliumtrophy Před 5 lety +23

    The only time I'm ever excited for a sequel. Shit's gold.

  • @GreenHornet553
    @GreenHornet553 Před 3 lety +17

    Ballard is almost a caricature of what an evil businessman is. It's unbelievable such a person could exist. Question out of curiosity Shannon: would you consider doing a video of Conn Smythe and/or Stafford Smythe?

    • @djtrankilo231
      @djtrankilo231 Před 2 lety +2

      especially since Conn Smythe is the reason Willie O'Rie broke the color barrier in hockey instead of Herb Carnegie. and Carnegie was way more talented than O'Rie

  • @kevinbudzinski9576
    @kevinbudzinski9576 Před 4 lety +10

    There was also a revolving door of head coaches and general managers during the Ballard Era

    • @billdang3953
      @billdang3953 Před 3 lety +1

      Of course, in spite of whoever was occupying the General Manager's office at the time, you know who the real General Manager was ! None other than the guy in the Owner's box at Maple Leaf Gardens.

  • @gazzarip
    @gazzarip Před rokem +3

    Harold Ballard is one of the best people in hockey lore!! I Canadian icon.... If only another just like him would buy the Leafs again.. I owe my childhood and teen happiness to Mr. Harold Ballard!!!! Well, him and Guy Lafleur

    • @dannythomas417
      @dannythomas417 Před rokem

      Not Jacques Lemaire, though. Not only did he make Lafleur request a trade out, but his debut is what caused Toronto to go through these dark times.

    • @calebkent6706
      @calebkent6706 Před rokem

      Your joking…..ballard ruined the leafs

    • @pjpredhomme7699
      @pjpredhomme7699 Před měsícem

      @@calebkent6706 i think you are missing the point - that he is a habs fan

  • @pudzlhed
    @pudzlhed Před 3 lety +4

    My Great Grandfather was Harold's 1st cousin and was the only person besides Harold who had a key to his private box. When I was young I remember going for Christmas at one of his farms. He was never there and I never ever met him. No other family members were ever invited to see a Leaf game.

  • @JuniorNationFan
    @JuniorNationFan Před 5 lety +51

    As a younger Leaf fan, i'm so thankful that I wasn't around during the Ballard Era. However, just hearing what he did to the Leafs made me start seething with anger because of this man. Also, it pisses me off when I see older generation Leaf fans that still sing his praises. For what!? Driving this team down for two decades!? (You could argue even longer) For being notoriously cheap and not paying his players!? For not giving a damn about the teams' history!? For focusing on awful gimmicks to distract us from the team being absolutely atrocious!? And yes, I know there were a few good years, but only a few good years in 20 doesn't cut it. This is why Leaf fans and the franchise get such a bad reputation. It's not the 1967 curse, it's the Harold Ballard curse.

    • @richardfewer9348
      @richardfewer9348 Před 4 lety +2

      JuniorNationFan Thanks Yes Amen

    • @traviscummings9178
      @traviscummings9178 Před rokem +1

      Ballard's stench still haunts the team to this day, and I doubt that it will ever truly fade completely

    • @canadaisruledbyclowns7188
      @canadaisruledbyclowns7188 Před rokem +1

      Who defends him? I've yet to meet anyone!

    • @otaviofrn_adv
      @otaviofrn_adv Před rokem

      If I was a Leafs fan and met someone that defended Ballard, I would serious question his fandom.
      The Leafs are still paying for his sheananingans today

  • @pressstart66
    @pressstart66 Před 5 lety +27

    This is one I’ve been waiting for. Thank you Shannon

    • @pressstart66
      @pressstart66 Před 5 lety +3

      The Daily Life Of Jay my dad told me stories about how legendarily awful Ballard was. I’m a Red Wings fan btw

  • @censored1332
    @censored1332 Před 5 lety +4

    One of the best days in not just Leafs Nation, but the entire Hockey world, was the day that P.O.S finally kicked the bucket.

    • @aquaticseraph692
      @aquaticseraph692 Před 3 lety

      @@zjakoanwkqoqldndoo9264 "What's this, a message for us? It says...oh my God, it's a miracle! CONGRATULATIONS, HAROLD BALLARD IS FINALLY DEAD!"

  • @RemiKJV1611
    @RemiKJV1611 Před 3 lety +4

    I used to work down the street from MLG on Carlton. When Ballard died, there was a viewing at the Gardens so I went to make sure it was true.

  • @not2tees
    @not2tees Před 5 lety +33

    Don Cherry and Harold admired each other, kind of naturally.

    • @cudaus1
      @cudaus1 Před 5 lety +6

      Harold just missed getting Cherry to coach the Leafs before he went to Colorado.

    • @nicholastricarico2957
      @nicholastricarico2957 Před 3 lety +2

      Of course.

    • @pjpredhomme7699
      @pjpredhomme7699 Před 2 lety

      ​@@cudaus1Don Cherry has just recently said it - that he had already said yes to coach Colorado - when Ballard called him - he said he would have loved to coach the leafs but he wouldn't go back on his word

  • @glennlee1983
    @glennlee1983 Před 5 lety +18

    LMAO! Classic!...one of the best videos you've ever posted!...Gold!... Can't wait for Part 2...and...I was around when Ballard owned the Leafs, there's enough material for even a Part 3!!!

  • @brianjones7660
    @brianjones7660 Před 3 lety +2

    Sabres owners Terry and Kim Pegula are in the NHL on a Harold Ballard Fellowship.....

  • @stugotz986
    @stugotz986 Před 3 lety +4

    I miss the good ole days. I grow up in the 80’s and about One and a half Hours from Toronto. My Dad was a huge Maple Leafs Fan. I’ll always remember my Dad grumbling every Saturday Night about that old damn cheap Ballard.

    • @dannythomas417
      @dannythomas417 Před rokem

      However Jacques Lemaire is the reason why we are The L Word. For 56 years, we've been talking, laughing, loving, breathing, fighting, fucking, crying, drinking, writing, winning, losing, cheating, kissing, thinking and dreaming.

  • @sspeller7
    @sspeller7 Před 5 lety +18

    Roger Neilson DID wear the bag on his head, he walked out to the bench at the beginning of the game with it on then took it off for a big reveal. There is 100% video of this out there.
    Edit: I remembered incorrectly, what happened is they delayed him coming out to the bench until almost puck drop for dramatic effect.

    • @cudaus1
      @cudaus1 Před 5 lety +3

      I watched that game on CBC, and I don't believe he wore it. I think Roger mentioned later that he decided not to do it. I could be wrong though.

    • @sspeller7
      @sspeller7 Před 5 lety +3

      @Dr. Andrew M. Goodman You and above commenter are correct, you saying that jogged my memory. Instead of the bag on his head they delayed his walking out to the bench almost right up until puck drop for a dramatic reveal.

    • @sspeller7
      @sspeller7 Před 5 lety +2

      @@cudaus1 You are correct, thank you for calling me on my bullshit.

    • @oilersridersbluejays
      @oilersridersbluejays Před rokem

      No he didn’t wear it. There’s a video of him returning the next game and his curly locks are fully visible.

    • @pjpredhomme7699
      @pjpredhomme7699 Před měsícem

      ​@@cudaus1 he didn't - I watched it too on CBC HNIC - they really played it up -- Roger Neilson was not going to embarrass the league and the game by doing that. He knew he would get another coaching job in no time. Of course he wanted to coach the Leafs but he was a young guy and was not going to torpedo his entire career over some carnival act. Remember a lot of these people who were involved in this circus all grew up around Toronto and the Leafs were an institution - they were all of English speaking Canada's team and considered a model of success until this insane criminal became owner.

  • @PancakesAndHammers2426
    @PancakesAndHammers2426 Před 5 lety +9

    You did an excellent job Shannon. I was looking forward to this video and you knock it out of the park. Glad he is gone and not an owner anymore. Thank goodness we don't have anyone like him in the league now.

  • @jeffcoroa9429
    @jeffcoroa9429 Před 3 lety +5

    I genuinely burst into laughter when he said everyone but leaf fans can thank Harold lmfao! true

  • @hotrodriguez549
    @hotrodriguez549 Před 3 lety +3

    The late great Red Storey deserves his own video. Hell of a good dude.

  • @Tomatohater64
    @Tomatohater64 Před 5 lety +5

    And this guy lived over 86 years! Oh my, God does have a sense of humor!

    • @davester1970
      @davester1970 Před 3 lety

      People like Harold Ballard live so long because Heaven didn't want him and neither did Hell. Contrary to what the Bible says, even Hell has entry standards. 🤣

    • @ALuimes
      @ALuimes Před 3 lety +1

      @@davester1970 Be evil enough and you get away with a senseless limbo!

    • @youzettasonsofdigits1639
      @youzettasonsofdigits1639 Před 3 lety

      So maybe the Leafs curse will end after 86 years lol

    • @MattTheParanoidKat
      @MattTheParanoidKat Před 11 měsíci

      I mean, this guy called Henry Kissinger is 100 and ask anyone who knows history and what he did you know that’s a cruel joke lol

  • @-EJ-
    @-EJ- Před 3 lety +9

    After watching trees video, i get the feeling he saw this.

  • @vader97100
    @vader97100 Před 3 lety +18

    Harold Ballard: the personification of a stereotypical rich old white man

  • @lyallarblaster3416
    @lyallarblaster3416 Před 5 lety +7

    Part 2, please. I love being a Leaf fan.

    • @dannythomas417
      @dannythomas417 Před rokem

      Only make it about Jacques Lemaire. When he joined the league in the '67 offseason, everything turned to shit.

  • @exeter1985
    @exeter1985 Před 5 lety +13

    Going back to my days in the 'Old Days' of hockey. Excellent work as always, talk about doing a little research?

  • @ianwilson9571
    @ianwilson9571 Před 5 lety +21

    Someone please send the link to this video to Steve Dangle.

    • @rivahkillah
      @rivahkillah Před 5 lety +1

      Why? Do you think he doesn't know about Harold Ballard?

    • @ianwilson9571
      @ianwilson9571 Před 5 lety +3

      @@rivahkillah He didn't know some of those stories Adam told him on one podcast. I'm sure he hasn't heard them all.

  • @wasagageorge2610
    @wasagageorge2610 Před 5 lety

    Thanks for memories. Harold was one of a kind. Great video

  • @livescript4462
    @livescript4462 Před 3 lety +2

    Lifelong leafs fan here, born 1998 so I missed this. Thank you so much for the exposé, what a creep!! Love you Shannon, regards to the fam and cats and bunnny

    • @mr.kramer5435
      @mr.kramer5435 Před 3 lety +2

      The stories of Ballard's time as the major owner of the Leafs are legendary. His battles with the NHL executives over how he ran the team goes way beyond some of current team owners such as Meruelo of the Coyotes or Melnyk of the Sens..Sittler had a no trade clause but said he'd waive it if the Leafs paid him $500k. Instead Ballard traded Lanny McDonald who was one of Sittlers best friends to Colorado which was the worst team in the league. Eventually he waived his NTC and went to Philly. Ballard also created controversy beyond the NHL and CFL. The Beatles were scheduled to play at Maple Leaf Gardens in Aug. 1965. Without telling the band or their management, Ballard sold tickets for a second appearance later the same night. He turned off the air conditioning and the water to the drinking fountains then increased the prices at the concessions. I'd recommend looking at some videos of him on CZcams or Google. Btw I watched the Leafs win in '67.

    • @livescript4462
      @livescript4462 Před 3 lety

      @@mr.kramer5435 that is ... just incredible. what an example of a terrible person with too much power wow. I'm really happy for you that you got to see them win. God bless u

  • @happykrogan8711
    @happykrogan8711 Před 5 lety

    Thank you for making this video. I am relatively new to hockey and never heard of ballard before. But this is so hilarious, I am really glad I know of him now.

  • @alexanderkwan7250
    @alexanderkwan7250 Před 8 měsíci +1

    I came here after watching Urinatingtree's Legacy of Failure video, and yeah, the more I learn of Ballard, the more I think of him as some grotesque combo of Dan Snyder, Jerry Jones and Art Modell combined.

  • @joeidaho5938
    @joeidaho5938 Před rokem +1

    Quite the story. I've been a Leafs fan all my life of 60 years. This video gives great context to the ups and downs...and the reality of life as a Leafs fan. I just couldn't bear to watch the Leafs any longer throughout the 80s...once Ballard forced all the great players to leave the team. Took me a long while to actually come back and think about supporting the team again.

  • @tomwilson3969
    @tomwilson3969 Před 5 lety +3

    Man would it be fun to be a crazy old guy with a boatload of money.

    • @tomwilson3969
      @tomwilson3969 Před 5 lety

      Political Warfare meh. Opinions differ.
      I want the F**k you money to match my attitude like Ballard.

  • @kelvinwilson1516
    @kelvinwilson1516 Před 5 lety +3

    If you looked you could probably find enough for 100 videos. I can still remember him trading Macdonald, worst thing to ever happen to the Leafs. I was and still am a huge Macdonald, Sitler, Salming, Palmeter and Tiger fan. My favourite hockey players of all time.

  • @JHockeyFan
    @JHockeyFan Před 5 lety +11

    Bill Wirtz video next please!

    • @JHockeyFan
      @JHockeyFan Před 5 lety

      @@justinsolomita9283 IIRC, the police officer from Bensenville didn't recognize Ruutu (because no one knew Hawks players back then) and pulled him over. Not sure if it actually had much to do with Wirtz.

  • @floxy20
    @floxy20 Před 3 lety +7

    If he was still the owner and the Leafs won the Cup (bear with me here) the Stanley Cup would end up on ebay. Bettman would be furious.

  • @hugh2hoob668
    @hugh2hoob668 Před 5 lety +3

    really makes me be thankful i grew up a pens fan our organization has been run by the best guys on and off the ice eddie johnston craig patrick , mario ...many other classy guys

    • @otaviofrn_adv
      @otaviofrn_adv Před 3 lety

      And one of the best coaches in history, "Badger" Bob Johnson

    • @djtrankilo231
      @djtrankilo231 Před 2 lety

      what about when the Pens went bankrupt and nearly moved??

  • @honestyprofessorcaesarreal5091

    Harold "Bah Humbug" Ballard

    • @dnasty312
      @dnasty312 Před 3 lety +1

      More like *Henry F. Potter* 🤑 At least *Ebenezer Scrooge* learned the error of his ways

  • @bobbydice8934
    @bobbydice8934 Před rokem

    Yes, make a part 2. I Love it. Don't worry about the time, the longer the better.

  • @SuperCamper99
    @SuperCamper99 Před 3 lety

    Omg this was great😂😂😂 one of the best THG videos for sure. Part 2 please.

  • @rickyaz8640
    @rickyaz8640 Před 5 lety +33

    I grew up during this era. Worst owner ever. He’s why the Leafs never play in June

    • @tomwilson3969
      @tomwilson3969 Před 5 lety +2

      Well maybe he was then but how do you explain the last 20 years?

    • @rickyaz8640
      @rickyaz8640 Před 5 lety +1

      Tom Wilson Curse. Plus Leafs fan pays for garbage every time. Ballard proved that. Keep bringing back Wendell Clark proved that. Not having a defense proved that. Maybe Shanahan can break it but not kicking Nylander to the curb doesn’t bode well.

    • @tomwilson3969
      @tomwilson3969 Před 5 lety +2

      Ricky AZ Shanahan and Dubas already messed everything up for the leafs again.
      Old Ballard haunts the team lol

    • @billdang3953
      @billdang3953 Před 3 lety +1

      Yup, the Chicago Cubs actually looked respectable by comparison.

  • @ericwill2133
    @ericwill2133 Před rokem

    Love the deep dives into NHL history.

  • @SaskTransfer
    @SaskTransfer Před 5 lety +8

    He even took a picture with the Tiger-Cats logo on the ice XD

    • @cudaus1
      @cudaus1 Před 5 lety +3

      He had a jacket that was half Leafs color and half Ti-Cats color.

    • @billdang3953
      @billdang3953 Před 3 lety +2

      Don't forget his footprints cast into the concrete at centre ice at Maple Leaf Gardens.

    • @cityhawk
      @cityhawk Před 2 lety +1

      How could the man have a Tiger-Cats logo in Toronto!? Christ! The Argos and Ti-Cats are blood rivals and you have the balls to put the logo of a city’s rival team on the ice? Was he high?!

  • @TheUniverseAroundUsNews
    @TheUniverseAroundUsNews Před 5 lety +12

    The curse of Harold "Scrooge" Ballard is a real thing!!

  • @graemeseidel2887
    @graemeseidel2887 Před 5 lety +1

    shanon thank you very much for this video if you make a part 2 i'm ready XD

  • @havardmoen6423
    @havardmoen6423 Před 5 lety

    Good video! You should do more like this. Entertaining history!

  • @mikemiller1011
    @mikemiller1011 Před 4 lety +19

    no point in putting a good product on the ice when every home game was a sellout

  • @MoveInSilence23
    @MoveInSilence23 Před 4 lety +3

    Watched that Fifth Estate on Ballard. That guy was a huge prick. Great video Shannon.

  • @Gergentine
    @Gergentine Před 5 lety +8

    Hilarious! Loved the video, thanks THG!

  • @Bendahuman9800
    @Bendahuman9800 Před 3 lety +2

    All the points you have made are correct thank you for this video

  • @psychedalex5906
    @psychedalex5906 Před 4 lety +1

    Underrated video, super entertaining

  • @scotthadlow5455
    @scotthadlow5455 Před 3 lety +2

    Ballard is still haunting us

    • @dannythomas417
      @dannythomas417 Před rokem +1

      What about Lemaire? Our future dreams were ruined because of him. It's no wonder Lamoriello stays in touch with this guy.

  • @GreenHornet553
    @GreenHornet553 Před 4 lety +1

    Waiting for that part two on Harold Ballard with anticipation.

  • @yebobbummann1622
    @yebobbummann1622 Před 2 lety +2

    Harold Ballard makes Jerry Jones look like a saint.

  • @marketstreetcup892
    @marketstreetcup892 Před 5 lety

    Good history video Shannon broke it down great!

  • @timsmith428
    @timsmith428 Před 5 lety +1

    I miss Harold..not for how he handled the Leafs, but the great press when he was around..A friend worked at the Toronto Star as a reporter. When there was a slow news day, the idea was to go up to the Gardens, and ask Harold what he thought about.......whatever...great stuff...

  • @krimsonshadow94
    @krimsonshadow94 Před 3 lety +3

    Wait Urinatingtree was serious about the paper bag, that blows my mind

    • @derkaiserzen
      @derkaiserzen Před 3 lety +3

      You had to watch SB Nation/Secret Base about Roger Nielson..
      They talked about him especially lol

  • @mikeormsby6385
    @mikeormsby6385 Před 3 lety +1

    Dave Keon was one of the most beloved and accomplished Leafs in franchise history. He helped the team win four Stanley Cups, including their last in 1967, when Keon won the Conn Smythe trophy. He won the Calder trophy in 1960 and was ranked one of the top-100 players in NHL history by The Hockey News. You'd think someone like that would be treated with some respect. You'd think.
    Ballard took over the Leafs in 1972 after a season in which captain Keon scored his lowest point total since his rookie season. The captain was accused of failing to provide the leadership necessary for the team by the cantankerous owner, who refused to give the four-time Stanley Cup champion a pay raise. Keon eventually signed a three-year contract with the Leafs after a deal fell apart with the Ottawa Nationals of the WHA.
    Keon had a strong 1972-73 campaign, in which he nearly matched career highs in goals and points. But by the time his contract was set to expire, Ballard was back in the media blasting his own captain. This time he vowed not to re-sign the popular forward, and allowed Keon to sign with any other club. However, any club signing Keon would have to pay the Leafs compensation, and Ballard asked for so much that no NHL team signed Keon.

    With the NHL no longer an option, Keon jumped to the WHA, three years later than he originally intended. He signed a two-year deal with the Minnesota Fighting Saints, but the team folded with 21 games left in the season. Keon intended to return to the NHL with the New York Islanders, a team on the cusp of becoming a dynasty, but Ballard once again blocked his return by demanding an unreasonable sum from the Islanders in compensation.
    While Keon eventually returned to the NHL in 1979 as the NHL absorbed the Hartford Whalers, he never forgave Ballard or the Leafs for the terrible treatment he received, and had a long-standing feud with the team.

    • @johnsmith7345
      @johnsmith7345 Před rokem

      Imlach had them all in brushcuts and most players had to have summer jobs. Frank Mahovolich had a travel office and Ron Ellis sold insurance. Players were on their own if the stood up to mgmt till Ted Lindsay got the players union going. Following Davey Keon as captain Daryl Sittler another all time great Leaf received similar treatment. No wonder the hockey gods look down on us.

  • @mprel
    @mprel Před 3 lety +1

    Great job. As a young Buffalo native, I always looked up to the Leafs. Just thought he was the old guy sitting in the corner

  • @terrenceripley6873
    @terrenceripley6873 Před 5 lety +8

    The cat LOL

  • @petezaria9409
    @petezaria9409 Před 2 lety +2

    The replica jersey that the Hockey Guy is wearing is incorrect, as Ballard wouldn't authorise the correct Leaf logo to be used on the shoulder patches. Ballard stole my childhood and every other fan of that era's as well, and yes more than 30 years later, I'm still bitter.
    The only words I ever said to Ballard, was at a Leafs preseason game in Kitchener Ontario, I noticed he and King Clancy high up in the stands. I made my way up to them, pulled a pen and piece of paper out of my jacket and asked: " Excuse me King, could I please have your autograph?" He smiled and wrote his name and gave the pen and paper back to me. Ballard reached for the pen, to which I replied: "Not for all the money in the world." I treasure King's autograph and that moment where I refused Ballard.

  • @ARMORALLL
    @ARMORALLL Před 5 lety +1

    Thanks for doing this. Go Leafs Go!

  • @jackiecleveland1447
    @jackiecleveland1447 Před 5 lety +1

    Great video! Enjoyed and laughed at the history and "entertaining" story of Harold Ballard. Would love to see more about other owners. Kings fan here and throwing the name Bruce McNall for consideration. Thank you, HG!

    • @777poco
      @777poco Před 3 lety

      Bruce was a crook but he wasn't mean and cheap

  • @LilleyComix97
    @LilleyComix97 Před 5 lety +1

    Also this gives me a new found respect and love for Kroenke

  • @sheldoncedwardthibault3599

    Hamilton Tiger-Cats logo at Toronto Maple Leafs centre ice in Maple Leaf Gardens sounds like a Harold Ballard move for sure!

  • @eddixon2015
    @eddixon2015 Před 5 lety +7

    Your sigh at 0:01 could honestly have been the entire video.

  • @petermontagnon4440
    @petermontagnon4440 Před 5 lety +1

    He was a character!!! He did hated spending money!!! Too say the very least he was interesting!!!! Glad you started forming the beak of your hats!! LOL There are so many stories that you can say about that man!!!

  • @GreenHornet553
    @GreenHornet553 Před 5 lety +3

    Question out of curiosity Shannon: how does Harold Ballard compare to the likes of other historically bad owners like Donald Sterling, George Preston Marshall, PK Wrigley, Jeffrey Loria, the Maloof Brothers, the McCaskey Family, Dan Gilbert, Bill Wirtz, the aforementioned Eugene Melnyk, Bob Irsay, Jerry Jones, Art Modell, Fred Wilpon, Marge Schott and the like?

    • @hattorihanzo2275
      @hattorihanzo2275 Před 5 lety +1

      Thumbs up for Quorthon.

    • @jesfel14
      @jesfel14 Před 3 lety

      The worst North American sports owner of all time. Not even Snyder and Dolan have the balls to outdo them.

  • @cudaus1
    @cudaus1 Před 5 lety +1

    The show that you mentioned with was called Overtime. It was on after Wednesday Leaf games. Dave Hodge was the host and they would talk about the game and Leafs news. Very good show especially when Harold would come on.

    • @johnsmith7345
      @johnsmith7345 Před rokem

      I think I remember the reporter Dick Bedoes with his fedora coming on that show too. Ballard liked him cause Bedoes was always boosting his ego.

  • @williamsnee143
    @williamsnee143 Před 3 lety

    Great history lesson loved it wow

  • @SovietWinnieThePoo
    @SovietWinnieThePoo Před 5 lety

    I think a part 2 would be amazing

  • @cindym6505
    @cindym6505 Před 3 lety

    Great video, love some hockey history

  • @coffeeandrage686
    @coffeeandrage686 Před 5 lety +3

    Another video would be great!!!

  • @ZachBonnell
    @ZachBonnell Před 5 lety +2

    Pal Hal by Dick Beddoes is a fun book to read if anybody wants to hear more of this Ballard craziness.

  • @777poco
    @777poco Před 3 lety

    Gee I'm glad I found this video, I saw Ballard the old jerk in his hey day, you brought back many memories of that old fool.