Ice tires with sawdust and metal shavings for reinforcement (and traction)
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You guys are a worldwide treasure! Can't imagine the fields of poor Ladas you go through but great experiments!
Hey, Garage 54 guys!!! On the subject of tires, an idea have been bugging me for a long time! Clearly, your experiment didn't work because hard frozen tire can't conform to the ground and create a contact patch... But what about solid silicone tires? Silicone seems to be both heat and cold resistant, grippy and soft, so I always wondered if there was some potential for ice, snow and offroad use! Please try it!!!
I agree 100%
Agreed, it is a cool material. And not very difficult to mold into a tire shape, I wouldn’t think.
Great idea!
Would look nice with a strip of LED lights around the rim
Yea agreed
The metal shavings make me 'fear' that you'll be getting tire punctures next warm season. 😆
And another awesome upload from Garage 54, thank you fellas.
And thank you BMI Russian for the voice over and translation, you rock!
Many years ago a tire engineer spoke up in a forum discussion us "plebs" were having about snow tires. He said one thing I'll never forget. They engineer snow tires to hold snow, not to clear it out every rotation. Snow sticks to snow. If you could make a snow tire out of snow, and not have it compress into ice, it would be the best snow tire. So they try to make them so they hold snow, without compressing it into ice in the sipings, that snow is really what provides the grip.
Your tires are caking snow on. There are parts in the video where the tire has some snow on it and it slips until that part hits the ground and it grabs. Around 7:15, with an open diff, one tire has no snow on it and it spins, the other is caked almost all the way around and it grips. Seems to verify what that engineer said. Interesting.
Similar principle to cold welding. Identical materials tend to get "confused" at the interface where they meet, forming one continuous mass that wants to behave as a single unit.
I was thinking the same thing, they could build a wheel with metal plates on the sides like a spool. As you drive the snow would hopefully get packed into the spool. If that doesn't work, they could add plates in the other direction so it's like a big paddle wheel.
@@1234567890CAB There was a similar sorta idea with the rebar wheels... I can't remember what they actually called them but all 4 wheels were balls made of rebar, and the snow was an issue, I just don't remember exactly how either 🤣🤷♂️
Good episode if you can find it, I thought of that because I remember thinking along the lines of a "paddle" type scheme for that as well.
Yes. Also the best form of sawdust or wood material to make the tire strongest would be wood that's steamed to relax the fibers and then made into many long interwoven rope-like fibers and strings woven and rolled around the tire tightly to build up to the shape of the wheel. Then let cool naturally. and then a mixture of fine and coarse wood chips to take up the space between any gaps. Increasing the strength and durability. Packed tight. Then soaked in water and frozen. Then it will be a strong and longer lasting frozen tire. With all the fibers and wood material packed in tight to take up the space to minimize the amount of excess ice so it is less likely to break. Ever had wet jeans become frozen solid as a rock in cold weather? Same concept. Stronger and longer fibers is better for strength and durability. I wonder if one could wrap a bunch of jeans around a tire rim tightly and use frozen wet jeans to make a tire.
@@realflow100 I was also thinking vacuum treat it so the water will get all the way in to the voids would be useful. It's being used as glue here, more contact, stronger wheel.
Coil some barbed wire inside the tyre before reseating and filling with water.
The barbs will give grip and the wire will reinforce against explosion.
G'day Garage54 & BMI,
As you moulded these with the insde of the tyres they have a very smooth outer surface, it reminded me of the lack of grip you faced when you mounted tyres inside out compared to treaded.
🤔I'm wondering if moulding the Pyekrete with the tyres mounted on the rims inside out would give them a tread pattern, could allow them some grip
During WWII the British experimented with using ice and wood pulp to build a ship, I think an aircraft carrier. Read about Project Habakkuk. I think that's the name.
@@karlwithak. Did they have Global Cooling, er, Global Warming, er, Global Climate Change back then? Oh, never mind! I know if I was going to serve aboard an ice ship I would have an electric blanket for sleeping, and battery-powered pants and jacket. Not to mention my own life raft with food and water. Thanks for the reply.
That was an American experiment. Pikecrete or Pykecrete was named after the American inventor that came up with the solution. They built test ships in Canada and America to study how long the ships would last and how much woek/weight they could handle. There was talk of using floating docks made out of the ice/saw dust material for the invasion of Normandy on D-Day due to tje shortage of raw materials. The test ships actually worked well but the project was dropped.
You should do a reaction video. Take this car with ice tires to a service station and watch the mechanic’s face when you ask them to check the air pressure. 😆
That for me would be a perfect recipe, minus the water but instead using epoxy resin 🤗
Glue carpet to tyres. See if it provides extra grip.
Idea for traction, if possible to replicate this was an option on '69 Camaros that provided a dispenser with nozzles located in the rear tire wheel wells that would spray a special traction-enhancing liquid on the rear tires to help traction on snow and ice.
So glue?
And to think, someone thought of the idea as a way to build battleships for cold climates... :P
Hallo. Well these were good experiments. But how about solid silicon with a few studs for extra grip. You lads are amazing. Keep the videos coming 😀
I saw a video of a guy using a battery leaf blower to boost the intake air pressure , after watching your air cooled engine conversion I wondered if you could combine the air flow through the engine into the intake/ carburettor 👍
Put spikes on rim to support ice.
I saw a Tiktok that showed, ice and cotton balls, or cotton fluff, not sure what it is called in english. But the fibers also bond with the ice, and it is so much more fine as woodchips... Would be interisting to see how that hold up.
Drill holes in the tires before pouring in the pykrete and wrap it in cellophane to seal the holes. You'll create treads that will grip the snow
A disposable boat, if you will. Fun I had learning! 🔥👌❤️
You guys are hilarious and have more fun with your experiments its a breath of fresh air watching the videos you make very enjoyable content keep up the good work.
More durable than i thought
Wonder if you put a thin layer of metal shavings around the outside where the tread would be but keep the rest of it wood/ice... wouldn't be too bad methinks long as you keep the speed down haha
Freeze yarn 🧶
They held together better than I thought they would.
What's next? How big of wings you would need to get a Lada off the ground?
That my friend is a neat idea.
I kinda love how the metal shaving tiees look like normal slick tires.
In our early days, we made Ships of this product! Eats get 2 the water in winter... ! Your engine and propulsion. Let us make it profitable!
10:51
Best moment xD
maybe try casting the wheels made with wood shavings with a tire that has been inverted so the wheel has treads
I'd like to see this following a previous video using barbed wire for traction. Only I would like to see the barbed wire fished into the tire for several times around the rim. Then frozen in water like this. The ice might hold together for a lot longer.
I wonder how these tires will perform in the summer. :)
At least you can always burn your tires to keep you warm while waiting for the tow truck.
keep up the good work felas
have you thought about wood chips and mettle shavings combo pycrete
Figure 8 is the start, no cutting the bead cord.
I have only my hands.
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sawdust+rubber resin
Like #154" hahaha! Garage 54 Rocks!
Maybe some steel rings added inside the tire would help them hold together...
Aw fuck yeah I've been asking for this video!
pikecret is very old. during wwII a very large but still small mock up of an aircraft carrier was made of this, it was torpedoed, but still could be sunk. it finally melted during a hot summer in a fiord.
I'm in the process of using 50 inch tire beads as ? You learn! As I'm trying.
You might try letting the wood soak up the water for a few days and the mold it into a circle and then shave it down.
How about stuffing tire full of yarn or something thread and water... That fabrik would be longer anyway than wood chips. But I guess results would be the same. In burnout they will all break. What else you would expect with ice?
Hey guy’s! How about next time do the same experiment! But with just melted solid silicone rubber!👌😂👍 great experiment though!
That metal one really exploded
That wood/water mix needs finer wood shavings so it makes a concrete like slurry. Then it will be strongest.
You have ti test Pykrete tires on summer
The Open-Dif is only spinning one wheel - the one with the 'least' traction.. spinning both wheels would help.
The metal shavings made me think: Make tires from metal shavings and silicone bathtub sealant.
Spray foam tires would be interesting to see?
The problem with this type of pykrete is that it isn't very flexibile. I wonder what the pykrete would be like if it was ice with rubber strips mixed in? Or something more forgiving like that. Would the flexibility of the rubber strips hold the ice together better?
Only in Siberia what will they come up with next to do with tyre experiments
Try doing the wood again, use a hack saw to cut a tread pattern into it. You had them in the shop which might have softened the ice due to the difference in temperature of inside vs outdoors...
try making a rebar frame for the ice.
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id like to own a lada one day and put a ls7 in it that would be fun but they dont have them in the us sadly
put heat from exhaut to intake see whta happens, can engine run on hot air, with just a drop of fuel??
What if you add both to a tire? Wood chips and metal shavings at once!
I see you been learning your history. Winston Churchill had the Canadian government working on a aircraft carrier made of pyekrete but the war in Europe ended before could be done.
Ivan, do the same with an acrylic or epoxy. maybe?
Sawdust tires where a real thing. Sawdust impregnated rubber was a common snow tire process.
Do the same thing but use glue instead of ice 🧊 😊
Or resin
Tehkää puu pyörät 2 komponentti liimasta ja puukuidusta! Tän jälkeen tehkää rauta vanne jossa on nastoja kuumentakaa vanne ja laittakaa se komponentti puupyörän päälle hehkuvana ja kun vanne on kohdillaan niin heti kylmää vettä , ja lopuksi poratkaa pieniä reikiä ja vetäkää ruvveilla kiinni rauta vanne komponentti pyörään! Tällainen vanne muistuttaa kovin vanhan ajan hevosen kärryn pyörää. Ja kun siinä on rauta kampoja tai sentin piikkejä on siinä hyvä pito niin lumella kuin jäällä!
Excelente 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻🤣
Hello! With ❤ and 🎉. Why not try mixing wool into rubber. Nothing works better on ice than a wet woollen sock
My wife said, “Oh, good gosh”!
I am not mad at you vlad Like the iss
Pikecrete!!!! Next make an aircraft carrier.......
Maybe in future make atleast 2 or 3 filling holes to enable full and uniform filling....also I wonder what your neighbors think about the crazy things your experiments must leave on the roads and in the snow....I bet there's an unusually high puncture rate around garage 54😅😂😅😂
Could try the metal ones again but instead of using ice use a epoxy or melt down a whole heap of plastic bottle caps and pour in with the metal shaving
Make pistons out of Tungsten!
An upside down running engine in a drive able car. ✌️
Soon can you make a steel tire😊
The folks at G54 could use front loading washing machine drums, and weld a metal tread to it. The Perseverance Mars rover use metal tires, with metal treads welded on. :)
Make them out of paper Mache as they won't crack like ice and might hold together a bit longer
2:40 I guess the whole thing fractures and drops off
Definitely try silicone and cast a tire out of 100% silicone and try 100% resin and make sure they have tread pattern
How about frozen shredded paper
try chicken wire netting with ice?
Come one guys, you are expecting "grip" from ice on ice, which is the most sleepery think in the world and the friction it's almost zero...?
I put "thumbs up" only for obvious reasons...
Mold sawdust into the rubber.
I would like to see you turn a a/c unit on a car into a air compressor. And have gages and a air tank on the car. So when you need to air up your car you can do so.
they have turned an a/c unit into a power washer, so that's kinda similar. lots of tractors and trucks have air compressors.
Why not use a stack of circular saw blades welded together as tires in the snow
Try to Make rally ice tires of regual tires
Sure let's make an aircraft carrier from it next.
Try swapping the material of the wheel, make the rims out of rubber and the tires out of aluminum 😂
I guess it's true what they say no need to reinvent the wheel. Lol
как насчет головки блока цилиндров, сделанной из сварного шва JB? 😂😂
hello from me
Gotta make tires out of fibreglass and glue...
Wrap cloth around and freeze. It shouldn't explode like this.
hey guys can you make an engine turn the opposite way and run
Podia ter sido feito com algodão.
Now try some more but cut some crude treads in them and see what happens.
Use Saw Dust from the kerf of a saw, not Wood Chips...
I think you need to use a finer sawdust rather than wood chips.
Try this from Bloodviking master engine and
Rear propeller driven car
Double decker lada
Monster truck lada
Pole volting from roof by breaking hard
Cannon ball into lada head on
8 wheeled lifted lada tow truck
Terra tires in rear of truck
Drive with tires on fire
Pulling lada from rope of sesna
1 electric engine on each corner of a lada
Coil springs in tires of lada
Double dully Iada 4x4
Lada on train rails with rear propeller
traction but Idk ice I think it will make weaker
Wood chips and ice WTF!
Just glue heavy duty metal sanding paper
Id like to see thing when car is turned over and vhat happens with the car?Engine on....
Can you make v8 out of 2 lada engines😂😂😂😂