ADOPTION COMPARED! Sims 1 vs. Sims 2 vs. Sims 3 vs. Sims 4
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- I'm comparing adoption in Sims 1 vs. Sims 2 vs. Sims 3 vs. Sims 4. How does the adoption process work in each game, how does each one differ, and which one is the best (in my opinion)? The answer might surprise you!
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In the Sims 1, adoption was simple - but also harder. The player could not initiate the process. Instead, you had to wait until the adoption agency randomly called your Sim on the phone and offered. And even then, you could only adopt babies.
In The Sims 2, you could now call up adoption services from the phone and order your very own baby, toddler, or child. You could choose age only - nothing else (even gender) was within the player's control. And there were limitations. You had to have a certain amount of Simoleons and if you had children taken away before, you couldn't adopt again.
In The Sims 3, you had even more control. Now you could choose the age AND gender of your adopted child. Plus, the financial requirement was gone and you could even name your new family member! The social worker also came immediately instead of making you wait a day like in Sims 2.
In The Sims 4, adoption was now costly - $1,000 for a baby, toddler, or child. You can initiate adoption on the computer, and your Sim would go pick up their new child immediately. Unfortunately, there are no social worker NPCs in TS4, which I found a little disappointing.
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The Sims 1 adoption makes it look like the adoption centre is overcrowded and they're giving away babies to random adults
I know!! They're just calling everyone in the phonebook to see who will take one of their hands! 😆
@@PleasantSims its like a dog LOL
It makes sense. The orphanages are over-crowded because of all the babies the social service lady has taken! I've lost more TS1 babies than I've kept.
very accurate to real life
Not an Adoption MLM
I'd say Sims 2 is the most realistic. The whole aspect of having enough money to properly bring a new child in, waiting for the next day, not being able to adopt anymore after getting children taken away, they getting back to the "orphanage", and so on.
In my opinion, The Sims 4 is the most realistic. You can adopt a child of your choice, which is actually kind of how real adoption works.
Sims 3 and 1 real silent rn
yeah, adoption is free in real world, so paying for it seems like you literally buying a child, lmao. it would be cool if the social worker came to check if you have a proper home for child (something similar to like when headmaster comes) + enough money leftover.
@@iamanti8367 Where is adoption free? I keep hearing about how expensive it is.
@@iamanti8367 That’s Foster care
I love the Sims 1, imagine if real adoption agencies just rang you and offered you a child 😂
Lol! That would be crazy!! I'd probably have a kid or two by now, though. 😆
Funny thing, if your family is a foster family in the USA, a lot of the time they will call you to see if you can take on a child that needs a foster home. Sometimes a lot of families end up adopting those children, too!
@@prickhead but the family in that scenario has already said ‘yes we want to foster kids let us know thanks’
Yeah, I know, I didn't really feel like typing out the entire scenario of the adoption process, just thought it was kinda funny how it sorta happens like that in real life!
@@PleasantSims Me too probably a house full.
Weird fact: If you look in the game code for sims 4, a child being taken away by the social worker is classified as a death.😬
Really? That's crazy. That explains why they can never be found.
This is why you have to use mods to not kill the child
This is exactly why I changed a setting in Mc Command center so that a child taken away is adopted by a random townie
@@rachelvmayhill How can you do that??
I have MCCC but can't seem to find that option
@@rachelvmayhill how
In The Sims 1 if a straight couple kiss each other a bunch of times, they'll ask to have a baby.
But if you do that with a gay or lesbian couple, they'll ask to adopt. :)
AWW THATS SO CUTE
That's how the flowers and the bees work y'all. Just kiss each other a lotta times and then you'll randomly get an offer to adopt a baby or it'll just pop into existence. Just like in real life! :D
Trust me, I have an E in Biology. ;D
@@randomuser2427 That E, of course, stands for Excellent! :P
@@randomuser2427 E in sweden is actually a good grade, only F is bad.
@@randomuser2427 yeah I don’t need to know that
Fun fact about the Sims 2: adopted toddlers and children are randomly generated from CAS presets (and can thus suffer from first born syndrome too), but babies are bred from two randomly picked townies! That means they can have very interesting and unique genes and features.
Ah yes, Marticore? :)
It’s the same for puppies and kittens! They are “bred” from strays in the neighborhood.
My sister had a family in the Sims 2 but the parents died and the child was taking away. She then created a new sim in the same world and decided to adopt a child, she got the child her previous had lol
Yeah I think youtuber marticore got into that.
@@rockyme100 Yeah the game usually does that if a household has had children taken away.
I actually like the fact that you cannot name children in ts2, it's way more realistic! I think irl nobody would try to force a kid to change their name at age 8 or 9 :D
Kid: Hi mom I'm Miranda.
Mom: Ew, no, you'll be named Tifa now.
Kid: Why do you want to call me after a video game character instead of my real name?
Mom: Look, *I* don't decide that.
Kid: Who does it then?
Mom: * looks at player * Not sure.
Well, I know that if you adopt a child, you cn legally change their name. I know of adopted children that usually come from a bad place and want a "fresh start" so their adoptive parents let them pick a new name. No one forces them to change their name, but a lot of them do get their names changed when they're adopted.
In the Sims 3 you have the ability to create that type of story line, in which the child wants to change their name, and then picks a fun name or something like that haha
Very true, but it does happen. One of my best friends was adopted at 9 and her mom changed her name. She let her have some input on the name of course because she was old enough, but ultimately her mom did pick it out. I’ve also heard of older children actually picking out their new name after getting adopted
@@pupyfanatic44 I've only knew of children picking their own names. Didn't know a parent could just change it. But the case I know is of a girl who grew up in my country but had a foreign name that she didn't know how to pronounce and felt weird about it. Her adoptive parents couldn't pronounce it either, so they let her pick a name she liked that was more common here.
I have 2 uncles that were adopted around that age and they both had their names changed
I noticed in sims 3 that the adopted child isn’t just randomized, they are randomized from sims you have saved in your sim bin. I had made a wicked witch of the west once and saved her to the bin and forgot she was there. A few months later I did an adoption and got a green baby. I guess I could be wrong but I’m pretty sure that kid was the witches baby. That would explain why I sometimes got kids with pink hair too, if they were based off of sims I had saved.
Ohh that makes a lot of sense now! I love how much information i learn the more i did into Sims 2 and 3. The best games ever imho
That doesn't happen in a regular game, nraas mods do that. Without mods they unfortunately have the face one syndrome, which is just a problem with sims 3 in general 😔
I never noticed that. Whenever my sims adopt the kids almost always have Default Sim Face. Once I got an alien kid though.
How is no one talking about Cindy being able to keep a Sims 1 family alive for 2 hours IN SPEED 3????????
RIGHT???
You know that your day will get better when Cindy's upload.
Aww, thanks so much!
Literal my first thought when I saw the notification 💕💕💕
Hell yeah
EXACLTY.
I’m hooked at the moment. Love her videos and bubbly personality ✨
What a sweet comment 😊 It’s true!
Last time I tried adoption in Sims 3, the child ended up stuck underwater in a map corner. Did manage to fix that by teleporting them into the parents' apartment and had no further issues, but before that they spent a day at the bottom of the sea while I tried other solutions that proved futile.
Say what???
Oh, the child was fine and grew up alright. Never developed the wish to go swimming anywhere though, which is a bit odd.
(Yes, the last part was a joke)
@@FonVegen should have given them the hydrophobic trait lmao
Sims 3 makes more logical sense for adoption. When you're an elder they deny you a child because (obviously) you are high risk of passing away and leaving the child on its own before it ages up
Kinda sad but makes a lot of sense
@@FonVegen Haha "Way dooooown below the ocean"
Just a thought but imagine if a couple get their child taken away in TS2 and every time they make a baby naturally it gets taken away because they are flagged as bad parents. That would be rough.
Let's not forget that in TS2 faimly sims can unlock the perk where you can beg the social worker not to take your kid away.
I love that perk! Thankfully, I've never had to use it!
Such a random perk though. I mean, what family Sim is going to neglect their children?
@@HerHollyness Me: flashbacks to when I was 9 and didn't know leaving the kid by herself would get her taken away xD
@@HerHollyness It happened to me by mistake and my sim wasn't a family sim, so I had to reload the game.
I remember having to use that perk! The Nanny didn't show up to watch the kids, but luckily my sim got home just in time to save her kid!
I love how Sims 2 and 3 did the adoption. it felt so real unlike the sims 4 that you can easily adobt even after your child can taken away.
Do you know that in the sims 2 when you adopt a baby, the game selects two random townies to be its genetic parents? Marticore made a video about this. I think that's really cool and I like trying to guess who they are
The relationship discrepancy you found in the Sims 2 is due to the season: summer. The same happens if someone brings home a colleague/fellow student. Normally they start out with 20, in summer it's usually around 40.
This is so strange and interesting!
summer loving, happened so fast...
I usually don't really have big story lines for my sims in sims 4 bc it's just too much make believe for me personally. But the one time I had a story planned out, I had a grandma living with her grandson, and wanted to adopt the boy with another household once the grandma died. Welp. She died and that boy just vanished into thin air. I never found that sim again. Really annoying.
I did something similar just that I wanted the mum to neglect the baby and just have it taken away so another pair of Sims can adopt it. Well the lil boy was never seen again. I'm still sad to this day. Not even in the family tree is any trace of him. I really don't like that!
I remember playing the sims 3 and had a kid taken away by the social worker and when I called the adoption service again after some time had passed I got the same kid back that got taken away lmao
that must be a rare occurrence
Lucky! Never happened to me :c
"This child isn't mine, but she COULD be for the low low price of §999.99 plus shipping and handling!"
I think the sims 2 adoption for babies are pretty cool cause it mixes the genetics of random townies.
Yes!!!
One time I adopted a kid in the sims 2 and forgot that I had to wait a day. My sim went to work at the same time the social worker showed up so the kid was home alone all day and got taken away again 😭😭😭
That happened to my sister once lol 😂
I always love it when Sims 1 is included. I know it lacks a lot of the features in the other games but that game is just so special to me I like it being revisited! ❤️
I totally agree!
My favourite is actually sims 2. I don't mind waiting (altho I don't have to, maybe I have a mod for it, can't remember), and not being able to name toddlers and children is pretty realistic. I mean, even if I could, I would feel bad taking away a child's name and identity from them, especially in a stressful situtation. Just imagine living your life for 4-5 years with one name, then waking up one day, you move to a completely unfamiliar place, "random strangers" are your family now, and even your name changes. It's a lot to take for a little kid
i feel that sims 2 was more likely realistic in my opinion, i remember that one time my sims got twins
and i left the name as in baby boy and i was so frustrating i couldn't change his name till i discovered cheats lmao
good old times :P
(and you can't change appearances expect hair colours which is super realistic too, i wish i still had sims 2 though)
@@leontineketting97 oh my god, I would have been frustrated as hell too >< I left the names as "Baby Boy" "Baby Girl" a couple of times when I couldn't care less for the child, but it was in the sims 4
@@onemackerel138 ouch😱😂
With MCCC, you have the option to have a child be adopted by a random family when taken away in the sims 4.
And, in the sims 2 when a baby is created when someone adopts, it uses the genes of two townies. So its interesting to see if you can recognise who the genetic parents are when the baby grows up
This explains the Koemi Tellerman and Benjamin Long genetics running around lmao
@@bethwaechter8927 Yep for example 😅
I'm not sure how true this is but I heard once that The Sims 4 apparently classifies a child being taken away as a death in the game's coding.
Oh god.
Imagine getting your kid gets taken away and the game's like:
"Welp, they're dead now, I guess."
Another thing I really like about sims 3 adoption is that it does fulfill the have a baby want! But only if you adopt a baby I believe.
In my Sims 4 game I had a neglectful mom lose her toddler but he still was in the relationship panels for all the sims and could be invited to parties and stuff and when his teenager older sister aged up she was able to invite her little brother over and adopt him. So it’s possible not to completely lose a kid if they have relationships with other sims.
Your hair is looking very full, very chic and cute! Great video btw, I wish the sims 2 had the gender choice :(
I use this mod to allow gender choice and to adopt townies and teens: www.insimenator.org/index.php?topic=98514.0
Adoption in the sims is amazing! I like that it is shown as a normal family option.
sims 2 missed an oportunity to have an adoption scenario 😪
Sims 2 is definitely the best version for me here. I actually really don’t like that you can change the name of a child-aged Sim in TS3 (and 4). IRL I don’t think you would/should change a child’s name unless they are too young to remember. I also don’t like that children who are taken away just disappear and don’t go into the adoption pool in TS3.
TS4 is the worst though - I only found out a few months ago about the child just ‘poofing’ away through watching a GrayStillPlays video and I was appalled enough just by that. I had no idea they hadn’t programmed in a social worker (but really, I should have expected it). That game is so bad.
I agree with you.
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From what I understand there are no social workers in TS4 because, like burglars, they are too triggering.
In the Sims 3, they don't disappear they just become regular townies. You still keep them in your relationships and family tree, and therefore invite them to parties and events later on. When they're children, you can even see them go to school.
They can even later join back the household when they grow up to adults.
@@Thearian6664 Triggering how so? Gosh the sims 4 is made by wimps.
One time in The Sims 4 I had a young couple with a kid, and when the parents died (I play randomising events. Trust me I was shooketh when I rolled death for both parents at the same time), the kid just vanished. I assumed she would be sent to one of her grandparents home or another relative, but no. The girl just disappeared. She was even erased from both family trees, as if she or her parents marriage never happened. The Sims 4 is a bummer.
In The Sims 1, homosexual couples would get the adoption prompt instead of the "Should we have a baby?" prompt that heterosexual couples get when engaging in romantic social activities (read: steaming hot kissing).
That’s so wholesome!
in my sims 2 game, my sims adopted and i forgot. they went to work and the adoption woman put my baby outside in the snow and came back a few hours and took her back. i was so mad i couldn't adopt anymore lol.
In TS2 I had my sim married to his sister, I just happened to forget that she was taken from the family previously...
I generally prefer TS2 because I like the lack of choice - they're adopting a child, not shopping for one. I feel like the lack of control respects the fact the child is a sim person in their own right. You know, as far as you can respect a fictional child.
"There's no social worker npc."
There's nearly no npcs period.
Also, the immediate adoption just goes to show that The Sims 4 lacks any and all consequences.
I do like that kids went back into the adoption pool of The Sims 2. It allowed for fuller story telling. I remember I had a kid taken away from one sim and had her sister adopt the baby - sort of like trying to keep the child with some family member before adopting them out to someone else.
I think I prefer not being able to name adopted toddlers/children since it would feel cruel to 'force' them to change their name at that age!
Also like some other people mentioned, I love that babies are generated from the DNA of townies in the neighborhood in the Sims 2!! It makes it really fun to adopt lots of babies and find out who they end up looking like.....
Even though it’s a mod I believe MCCC allows for neglected kids to not disappear into the grey area. You know where cars, improved babies, classic NPC and gameplay exists lol. I do hope that they expand on adoption for TS5. I’d love for it to be a little bit harder to adopt. Like sims who have the hates children trait shouldn’t be allowed to adopt. I wish we had orphanages where our sims could go and bond with potential children instead of picking them out of a catalog like they are objects. Just a little more realism and challenge.
The Sims 2's adoption system is my favourite of the bunch, although it's not perfect. I actually like having to wait a day for the social worker to come. I know people irl that have adopted (or tried to, at least), and it can be a very lengthy process (at least where I live). I imagine that day you have to wait is used to do background checks on the parents, do all the paperwork, etc. It's annoying, yes, but so is the real thing, lol. That's why I also like the money requirement and that they won't let sims who have had their children taken away adopt. I take it as the sim social services making sure they are giving the child to suitable parents.
Something I really like about the sims 4's system is that you can choose from a "pool" of available children, which I find very realistic. Orphanages and such only have so many children, after all, so that's kinda realistic. I *really* dislike that you have to pay, though. That makes it seem you're buying the child, which sounds just awful.
One thing I'm sad none of the games have is the option to adopt more than one child at once. I know people who, for example, adopted siblings so as not to separate them. That option would be nice on the sims 2, since children that have been taken away go to the "adoption bin". Though I suppose you can just adopt them one at the time.
I'm skeptical about The Sims 3 because sadly, without AwesomeMod, the kid will end up having a pudding face 99% of the time (which means all adopted kids have exactly the same face).
The Sims 2 has the best system imo. Adoption doesn't cost anything, but you need to have some financial stability to be able to adopt. And re-adopting is super cool. Lack of gender choice might be a bummer, but you can always save right before the social worker comes and repeat the adoption to get different results (like with labor). Plus, I am IN LOVE with the fact that adopted babies are bred from existing townies, so babies always turn out to be the most unique looking, with mixed up appearances instead of just basic templates :D
In the sims4 adopting a cat is more complicated than adopting a child lmao; with the "this is a big responsibility " pop-up thingy which doesn't pop up when adopting a child
"Oh, hai Mark!" 😂😂😂😂 I DIED
I'm so glad Cindy's continuing this series. I was really afraid that she wouldn't because of the whole Sims 4 debacle.
But I find that she keeps growing more and more into her own self. I really like that. Instead of following the extremes or the trends I feel that she's starting to find her own path.
Wholesome content with a wholesome person. I love it.
Aww, thanks so much Eric!
It has probably been mentioned before, but to prompt the adoption dialogue in TS1 you just need two adults kissing in front of the phone.
i’d love to see you compare the type of dishes we have in the 4 games 😊
Oh, great idea!!
That reference to The Room made my day. XD
I just want to say because of you I actually enjoy playing the Sims again. 😊💜
So thank you for that!
Have a lovely day Cindy!
That's awesome! Thank you so much for watching!
Samee:)
wait so in Sims 4 the kid sorta...dies either way through neglect or being vanished through being taken back. poor kiddo :( great video though since i never really touched on adoption while playing sims! this makes me want to do so now
Your hair looks a lot thicker now!! I'm so happy for you
I think the first time I adopted in The Sims 2 it was with the Oldies. I gave them two children one day after the next and then started adopting babies so that one they died, the oldest two could presumably take care of their younger siblings. I think I adopted five children for them, so Mary Sue ended up with a lot of siblings.
Fun fact: all adopted children (and also all randomly generated NPCs, and also the sims that move into the empty houses in your neighborhood) in the Sims 3 have the same face. It's the "default face" with all sliders set at 0.
Really? I play with mods so I never noticed. I ain't got time for no default face 😂😂
I actually think it is more realistic to not be able to change the first name, other than a baby, because said child would already be familiar with their name. Also, I do think having 3k funds is definitely reasonable.
What I would love to see in the future, an application process, perhaps similar to the Head Master scenario in Sims 2.
I did not know about Sims 3 having a grace period to allow another adoption, I just assumed it was like Sims 2, and since I never had my Sims removed for neglect, I actually did not know that. Thank you!
I just realized I've been playing the sims 3 daily since launch day 2009 and I have never once adopted a child :O LOL
This is now becoming one of my fave sims channels, I love how much depth you go into and I find myself constantly watching them to cheer me up and bad days x
These comparison videos are my favorite type of video you make! I didn't play the earlier iterations of the game so it's cool to learn :)
Yay!! This series is one of my favorite series on your channel!!
I constantly refresh my youtube waiting for you to drop a vid!! been LOVING your content lately !!!
LOVE these comparison videos! Very well done! Can't imagine how much research you have to do haha
I'm glad you found a way to make more popular type content without killing your soul x
It makes me so happy when you upload!! I love these comparison videos :)
Ooh I love comparison videos. It’s such a nice trip down memory lane. (And I reminder of why I don’t play TS4 🙈)
Another comprehensive Sims franchise gameplay comparison?! Yessss!! One my favorite Pleasant Sims video series.
In my personal opinion, you could never make too many of these videos. And as someone who started playing back in 2000, I find this content endlessly interesting. 😆
I’d love to see a video in this series about the evolution of camera control through the sims series!
Another great video Cindy, keep it up!!
Thanks for the idea!
I get so excited whenever you post! Love your content so much I’ve been watching your old pleasant view streams 🤍😅
THIS is the Sims content I live for 🖤. I started playing sims 1 when it first came out, along with sims 2. Skipped sims 3 when I went to college and have been a sims 4 player since that was released. I have missed SO MUCH. Thank you for filling in literally EVERY GAP!
WOW you are glowing!! love love looove comparative videos like this one, you make them so entertaining and informative and I could watch them all day
Thank you so much!!
TS2 kids taken from bio parents can be a freaking nightmare. I almost always give up risky woo hoo babies from non-family Sims.
If you do that too many times you can forget that a bio relative want to start dating them.
😖 My poor sim granddaughter went on a date with her much younger Oopsie uncle adopted by a different family.
Yay, another comparison! I love it so much!
Thank you!! 😊
I always look forward to your Sims comparison videos 💙
Thank you!! 😊
Cindy! Your hair is growing in so well! I also never got the prompt to adopt in Sims 1
Omg I missed comparison videos, they’re my favorite ✨
I love comparison videos, and your take on this model is very good!
i clicked on this with a QUICKNESS! your comparison videos are my absolute fave ☺️
"What else I'm gonna do with the Oldies?"
Lmao I feel so nerd finding this funny
When I was playing the Goth family in Sims 1 the adoption agency always rang on first day of playing, so I though it was a scripted event, and I always thought that Alexander was adopted (thus had no suspicions about him not looking anything like Mortimer). I didn't realize he was supposed to be Mortimer's bio son until I saw all the theories that he was secretly Goopy's child xD
Love these type of videos 😊
Great video Cindy! Once when playing the Sims 4 my sims were getting married on a community lot and my toddler was taken away, I was devastated and thought she was gone forever but was surprised to find her in the manage households screen all alone in her own household, so I just added her back to my family. This was a few years ago and I don't know if it was a glitch or something they fixed recently.
Omg ! Oh hi Mark 😂😂 I love the Room references ! Thank u for keeping me entertain Cindy. ❤️💜
Love those comparison videos 🖤🖤
I know it's not the topic of the video but omg your hair looks so nice
I adore your comparisons.😍😍 please keep doing it.
More to come!
Sims 1! Would love to see you play more of the first game, it's the second best of all games to me
Cindy: "like little Mark, the demon boy"
Me: 👁️👄👁️
Love your comparison videos. I would be so happy if you've done vids on comparing similar dlc's for all of the games
I haven’t watched you in a while and your short hair is adorable!
One problem with TS2 adoption though - when the family ties are shattered the child could technically end up becoming romantically involved with a former family member 😬
I love these comparison videos 😁 so nostalgic!
I remember when I neglected the school notes of one little sim in TS2 and the social worker took away all the childs (3) from the family!!! Gosh that almost broke my heart, luckyly i didn't save the game to prevent the event 😂
Oh god i remember that too, it was so frustrating😂😂😂
I’ve been taking a break from the sims bc I have lots of uni work to do, but watching your videos makes me want to open my game and have a sims binge 😭 Just three more weeks left of the semester!
i love these types of videos!!
With the MC Command Center mod, the child goes to another family right after they are taken away by the shiny particles, you need to enable this option in the mod settings.
Omg I’m early again loved the video Cyndie as usual you entertain us with your usual commentary and wit. You should have your own tv show lol I feel like
Lol! This is my TV show! Thank you for watching Brent! 💙
Never would have thought of this comparison!
Your videos make me so happy!
I love how in the sims 2 we can open car doors and walk in and out of them instead of just dissapearing into the car like in the sims 3, they really need to bring this feature back one way or the other.
Thank you for the awesome content.
I really like these comparison videos