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This is actually one of the first videos where I can hear the difference between "chimey" (fat 50s) and "woody" (fat 60s). Well done!
F50: fat and punchy
F60: warm and creamy
Both sound great!
I hear it, but then I am obsessed with Strats and Fender pickups. Thanks for putting up a clean-sounding video as it will help many decide.
Cheers! Thank you for you comment!
For a Frusciante fan fat 60's are the way to go, under the bridge immediately sounded "right"
I agreed completely but for some reason personally I still prefer the fat 50s but then again I have the 65 is on the bridge they sound very frusciante as well
Fat 50's sound fuller and sweeter. I agonized over which pickups to get when I ordered my Strat from Fender. I'm very happy I chose the Custom shop Fat 50's. Some validation for me, not just wishful thinking they really do sound great and blew away the Fat 60's.
I am in your situation right now but it's even worse because I have hss! Lol. I'm thinking fat 50's for middle and neck and Seymour Duncan pearly gates for my humbucker. Did you get to try the fat 60's?
@@brooksphillips2234 i was thinking to get annhss and change the neck and middle...do you do it yet..
@repoman5581 no I haven't yet but it is coming for sure.
I think the fat 50s sound clearer with more focus in the mid-highs to highs while the character of the tone is, overall, quite alike.
Just confirmed all my listening for weeks before I ordered my Strat with the Fat 50's. The Fat 50's just sound more articulate and pure. The tone is a 10 out of 10. Better than anything else at any price to my ears.
Glad to hear that sir!!! My fav strat pickups still .. ps: since this video I started a band check out if you can! CHEERS! #mfilesband
FAT 50s are the sound that I prefer. The articulation for the neck pickup is what I have been missing using the gold Lace sensors on my '89 Strat Deluxe Plus. I ordered the Fat 50's and then saw this video. I was concerned that I would regret it when compared, but the difference was clear to me. Thanks for doing this! I will be checking out your music now.
Thanks man! Hope you enjoy the Fat50's so far my favorite set of all that I've tried .. especially on the neck position. Enjoy have fun! And welcome to the channel!
I like both. Fat '60's for rock style songs and fat '50's for more country-ish style music.
i listened to them with my eyes closed, not knowing which was which. gotta have both in my toolkit.
1) Fat 50's starts with a pretty flat EQ when hit soft, and when it's hit hard the mids jump out beyond the bass and treble.
Fat 50's has a brighter overall sound. ( Worked better for the clean stuff as expected)
2) Fat 60's starts with a mid-scooped EQ when hit soft, and when it's hit hard the mids jump toward a flat EQ.
Fat 60's has a more creamy and warm sound. (worked better for the overdriven sound, as expected.)
If I had to pick one, I would go with the Fat 60's because my ears are sensitive to treble.
It's nice to hear Frusciante stuff on a pickup demo. And U2 also! Nice taste man
Thank you!!! :)
Thanks commenting that!!! Haha
To my ear the 60s are a bit darker and slightly more compressed. Tad more mids too
Yep
Sounds great! I can hear the difference in all your samples, and I prefer the fat 50s too. I put a set of Fender Yosemite pickups in my 2004 MIM strat, and they sound amazing. They sound similar to the fat50s, but theres a difference because of the pickup construction. I would suggest you checkout the Yosemite pickups. They're literally the sound in my head I have heard for 30years, that I finally have in my guitar.
What genres do you play?
50s seem brighter and 60s more mellow. I think I like the sound of the 60s more
for was the opposite, 50s more mellow ... 60's more mids more attack .. but hey we all hear different thing .. thanks for the comment .. ; )
@@MarceloDurham I can hear the mids in the fat 60s. I have cs69s and feel that they could do with more mids. Then I hit the ts9. Maybe my ears aren’t great to be fair. I have a fat 50s bridge pickup in one of my strats.
@@MarceloDurham It's just like my brother say cucumber as 'oily and greasy', while my mom 'fresh and clean'. Just different words expression on the same thing. It's always arguing but 60's more mids sounds like softer and more mellow, in other words, a bit to vauge, muddy, compressed tone. And 50's less mids(clear highs and lows) sound obvious, clearer and bright. Some people call it as 'mellow', but I think it's better to express 'clear'. That's why 50s strat is widely known for its crystal clear clean and brighter tone, while 60s for darker, warmer and mellow. So you both feel similar in ears but just your words are different from what you focus on.
@@vaoro thanks for that! :)
50s sounded more chimy and clear. I maybe bias since I play clean always. So for me, it’s 50s FTW.. although I wouldn’t be upset with the 60s.
@@JohnnyApp1eseed same.. i kept the 50's and sold the 60s.. but both would do a great job. #mfilesband
Evey pickup position has its own sound due to its location. Regardless of pickup type.
Great video, really like the sounds of both pickups but I prefer the Fat 50's. It sounds like the Fat 60's are not quite as articulate and break up quicker.
That's my takeaway too. Got 'em (50's) in a few Strats and love 'em. Just can't believe they've doubled in price. I'm sure I'd like the 60's too. I think both Fender and Gibson get it right on pickups for their USA lines, and I think Fender's Mexi specialty and the vintage Squires (overseas) are excellent surprises. Heck, the Epiphone Pro-Buckers are very capable though if/when cranked heavy OD, loud amp, all of these can get a bit shrill. Clean, to light OD, they're all really good.
something about the 50s that i like and have seen in all the videos i've watched is that they almost sound like they have compression by default because all the strings sound equally strong. on many other pick ups the higher strings sound thinner and weaker
Fat 50s for John Mayer sound. Fat 60s for John Frusciante sound. Both great - down to personal taste.
Yep.. totally ... but I have been told that John Mayer like the 60s sound .. still i always feel like he has more of a 50s tone..
thanks for that video- the fat 60's for me is more mellow, has less atack and less highs ad lows than fat 50, but in a good way.. the conclusion is that the real 60's strat pickups sound more equal than the fat 60. and the fat 50's are near the real 50's.pickups. conclusion if you lke the sound of teh 50's strat go to fat 50, but if you like the real sound of a 61 strat for example go to fat 60. fender rmake good job in this pickups, near the sound of the real 50's nd 60's pickups
I agree, I like both, but the 60s are more mellow and rounded
Great! Very good demo... I prefer F60 in clean sound and F50 in overdriven sound
You need both! LOL! :p
@@MarceloDurham Please... don't tempt me! :)
@@giovannisabattini2595 LOL sorry! :P
I have a guitar that came with the fat 60s pickups and I finally had the strat sounds I was looking for. 50s also sound great. Thanks!
I scrolled down from the video to see if I could differentiate without looking. Definite difference. I never use the bridge anyway
Got a tip from the amazing Scott Henderson .......Don't use the Volume control on 10 ......back it off to 9 or 8.5......Just to where you hear a difference in tone.....Experiment......Really makes a difference.
Yeah we know.. but with or without treble bleed ..?
@@MarceloDurham without treble bleed. It takes the edge off just a little bit
@@charlcoetzee93 i see well i have it on mine I just take the edge out with the tone knob
the sweet spot you mean
The sweet spot is on 11
to me it actually sounds like 60s are a bit hotter with a stronger midrange punch, where 50s are a bit brighter which makes them sound more clear.
Yep... the 50s are bit more smooth with less mid range
Liked the 60's more. Sounded higher output. More chime. I prefer CS 69's over both. More scooped than either? I think they're all great pickups though. Very little between them?
These two are similar indeed byt not quite, as you just said you prefer the 60s I prefer the 50s but the 69 are very different. The 69 a very low output and these are overwound to give more output the FAT is because of that these hotter pickups then the vintage ones like the 69. :)
Superb English brother!
Thanks for the helpful information! I've got Fat 50s (got them back when they were half the current price) in a few Strats and love them, but I'm now curious about 60s for another guitar.
Thats cool.. thanks!
A / B samples starts at: 2:50
Thank you for your nice video
Yeah the pickup sound very similar and I think you're right to like the FAT 50
PS : ohhhh :) :) I just saw that little mustang ahah It would be nice to do an A/B with it too
@@Aniki82 glad you liked the video! And thanks fot the comment! Cheers!
The fat 50s is a much more robust and compressed sounding set of pickups, especially with a very tight sort of mids a bit reminiscent of Texas specials. The fat 60s is a bit more lush and seemingly more scooped. The notes are not as tight, but makes up for it in the overtones. Both are unique and good so you will need a set of each... As always.
Wanted to add that I don't think the 60s had less mids, just very different mids.
@@MintStiles for my ears the 60s has more mids ..
@@MarceloDurham I think you are right. The pickups just have a very different profiles of timber, and I think that's playing tricks on my ear.
Sounds like to me the 60's are more compressed and have more mids. Maybe not necessarily more mids but the treble and bass is brought way down compared to the 50's
they make noise or hum on a amp with distorsion ?
Yes they do have him when you put distortion on these are single coils vintage style so there's no harm cancelling anything like that
Cara, sempre quis fazer essa comparação. Tenho os Fat 50's em uma guitarra mas sempre fiquei curioso. Depois do seu vídeo, achei eles com mais definição do que os 60's. Apesar de serem 50's parecem mais com o som do Frusciante, que foi sua primeira referência. Excelente vídeo!
Que bom o video ajudou.. eu tenho una versão dele em português..
mas engraçado eu gostei mais dos 50s porém achei os 60s mais Frusciante hahaha..
60s ficou mais para o timbre do John
Sound Love both of it 50,60
I'm partial to the fat 50's. I like that higher tonality on the strat, which just cuts through.
Interested in using ssl-3 / fat 60s / fat 50s as my particular set. I'm now questioning whether or not to switch the fat 60s and the fat 50s. Please help...anybody.
what help do you need?
@@MarceloDurham I think I was drunk when wrote this. I guess I would like to know if said combo would work?
nice peppers tunes, love the pickups also but extra credits for the playing:)
THANKS PERRY! Welcome to the channel..! Cheers!
Cara. Tenho uma Strato mexicano e tô pensando em trocar os caps. Tento timbrar parecido com o John no RHCP. Você recomenda o 50s ou 60s?
Acho os 60s mais John.. porem eu gosto mais do 50s no braço.. e tenho um 65 na ponte que é beeeemmm john tb..
Thank you for your tone comparison between these pickups. It was very helpful..the 50’s setup for sure!
Could you elaborate on the Vintage ‘65’s that you had mentioned? I was looking at those and the ‘57/‘62’s as well. Thank you!
Thanks! Glad that you enjoyed the video! :) the 65 are great .. this whole pure vintage series is really good and sounds very vintage ... the 65 s very FRUSCIANTE a like.. but for me, for my guitar, the neck could a little bit more morden só i found on ebay this one fat 50s neck pickup .. but was already very happy with the 65, but you know, less out put and not so FAT, LoL .. czcams.com/video/q92Khj-XJ5M/video.html 65 pute vintage on all position first day.
@@MarceloDurham Thank you for responding Marcelo!
@@revsracing143 YOUR WELCOME! Thanks for taking the time to comment. Maybe I'l do a video on those 65 ..
Nice 60’s Frusciante sound. Love the 60’s more but 50’s is good too
would you say that 60s because they are overwound they have less dynamics? For example if you pick gently it's still louder than fat 50s?
they are both overwound, the difference its on the type of wire and the magnets. 60's are more mid range there for a bit more in your face, the 50 are more mid scoop so more mellow in my opinion.
Either your strings or amp is set trebly. 50's are warmer yet bright and 60s are more chimey and bright. less warmth.
Great playing, Marcelo. Thanks for a useful comparison. I subscribed.
Your welcome! Thank you for the suporte Maxwell! ;) ..
hi, i heard the demo, I don't think the difference is so subtle as you say
thanks for making this video! it will help me make a decision
Thanks! I’m glad you like it and it helped ..
Think I was afraid it would come across in the video as it does when you are playing it..
difference specialy when he play red hot uknow strait away need 60
for u2 same the 60 soundbetter
Hi, thanks for your comparison video. I really wanted the Fat 50's before watching your video, but I'm now I'm getting confused. Should I get a Fat 60's to sound like John Frusciante. (It sounder more alike John Frusciante's tone using Fat 60's in your video.) Which do you recommend if I want to sound like Blood Sugar Sex Magik's Frusciante's tone? (Before watching to this video, I was planning to buy the Fat 50's because of the reputation.) Anyway, thank you for your comparison video!! Cheers!!
@@bobtake the 2 are not far away from each other I play with 50s a bunch of rhcp stuff and no one cares, but in my personal opinion after having both the 60s is more John's sound.
@@MarceloDurham Thank you for your reply. Yeah, I felt that too, they are not far away from each other. Still can’t make up my mind because I was obsessed to the Fat 50s before listening to your video but I think I’m gonna make it a try for the Fat 60s. Thanks for your help😄👍✨
@@bobtake any of the two I'm sure you love it they both sound great. Best picks ups on the market for the money in my opinion. #mfilesband
@@MarceloDurham I heard you play Fat 60s on your Sqiuer Mustang but that tone was definitely John’s tone. Especially on If You Have to Ask. I do agree to your opinion that they are both best pickups on the market for our money. Thanks again for your gentle reply and your nice videos🙌✨
Marcelo, o que os gringos querem dizer quando um som é mais “warm” do que outro? Eu entendo que mais “Hot” significa mais ganho… mas não compreendo quando dizem que esse captador ou amp é mais “warm” do que aquele, por exemplo?! Saberia me explicar…
Cara essa pergunta curiosa .. Nesse caso eu diria que é o equivalente a uma maciez uma coisa que não é tão atacada então estridente aquele som gostoso de ouvir mas que tem baixo presente mas que não é embolado saca.. Eu diria que macio é a melhor palavra em português para representar nesse caso...
A propósito Vale mencionar que eu tenho esse vídeo em português também, só procurar.. abraço!
Best comparison video ever! and of awesome pickups!
THANK YOU! :)
I agree - very useful presentation!
what are you plaing into? Amp wise?
Vox mv50Ac ..
Fat 50's all day! Very well done comparison. Thank you.
Thank you for the comment! Welcome to the channel! :)
Can I ask what amp/speaker you're playing through? Thanks!
Sure, its a vox mv 50 with subzero 10 inch celestion speaker..
Thanks a lot for your video, very happy to find it on CZcams.
glad you like it thanks! ps: my band if like to check it out! :P #mfilesband
What fuzz is that??
is a Chinese bass fuzz king of a fuzz factory deal ..
Hello and thanks for the comparison. I'll join the 50s chorus here, but I am torn between them and Yosemite.
You're welcome man my pleasure..
Thanks for the comment!
I can not help between the 50s in the Yosemite because I never use them but I have a feeling that a custom shop are little bit of a upper level product from the Yosemite. But I could be wrong..
PS: checkout my music if you can! :)
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Cheers!
@@MarceloDurham The 50's are definitely a step up, but so is the price. Not sure about prices in the US or elsewhere, but here they are 360$, which is a lot of money for a broke guy haha But yeah, I watched another comparison and after a bit of thinking it will be the 50's. The guitar receiving them is actually my first electric guitar that I managed to get back from selling it years ago. So a cheap Squire Affinity. But it will have all new electronics, stainless frets, new pickguard, tremolo, nuts, trees (if needed) and staggered tuning. It's only because it's my first one and so I think it deserves some special attention. It was all rusted and really dirty when I got it back.
Anyways, thanks for the reply. :)
I think they both are great and totally represent the era of pickups. The fat 50’s are bright and full like 50’s strats. The fat 60’s sound like… guess what? 60’s strats lol. I’ve had both and I love the fat 60’s for their breakup
Agreed but I learned buy doing this that I prefer 50s strat.. when all my life i believed I liked the 60s guitars more, but that was just me let marketing infect my brain.
Totally agree with you :D @@MarceloDurham
for fruciante 60 lol
Yep but fot that already have the 65 pure vintage..
damn close...nice playing!!
Great video! you convinced me to buy the 50s. But why don't you use them also in the bridge position? are the 65s so much better sounding then the 50s in the bridge?
i just got one pick up on a store it was used but in perfect condition I had the full set 65 already on .. i liked it a lot so I kept it for me the bridge sounds just like that frusciante bridge sound so I just down to change. but I'm sure the 50's on the bridge is great too..
Nice demo young man. Hard to choose between the two.
is it just me or do the fat50s sound more tele pickups than strat pickups
Hahahahahah thats a first ... i think fender has been try to make tele neck pickups sound like strats for so long now that you have been misled to think that..
Excellent comparison video.
Thanks man!! :)
I’d be curious to hear a comparison of the bridge pickups… I love by fat 50’s in the middle and neck but hate my bridge, I have an FS-1 to put in the bridge which I haven’t gotten around to yet.
On the bridge i have the pure vintage 65
I have my Teles and Strats wired with a bridge-only tone control. Always roll back the tone on the bridge to fatten the tones.
@@PaulSter my tele is “normal” but on my strat one of the tones is set for the bridge pickup..
Caramba Man! Seu inglês é awesome! If you didn’t say anything i would say you’re a gringo for sure. Great video n playing as well cheers!
Hahahaha valeu cara obrigado pelo apoio e pelo comentário!!! Seja vem vindo ao canal. Eu tenho outro canal tb Marcelo Durham BR vale mencionar! Haha abraço!
50s are chimes, 60s are bells
Hahahaha perfect..
What fuzz pedal did you use at the end? Sounds very nice!
Fuzz rite or a big muff not sure it been a long time maybe both together
Hi, Im interested about your guitar gear, amp on this video. Nice sound and concious upgrades. Best
Mooer blues crab, joyo ac tone, tc hall of fame .. into the mbox woth pro tools a bit of EQ AND COMPRESSION.
Prefer the fat 60s - sweeter warmer less glass / treble
Awesome playing thag RHCP tune. It’s hard to choose which ones are better
Prueba los 57/62 y compara con los Fast 50, y subes un nuevo video.
não tenho los 57/52 ... sorry .. desculpa...
Cara, direto ao ponto, jimi hendrix, fat 50s ou texas special?
fat 50s .. não gosto dos texas special .. quase tudo com special no nome (mesmo da fender) eh especialmente ruim... mas eh só minha opinião.
@@MarceloDurham interessante mano! eu tb me interessei pelos antiquity texas hot e antiquity surfer I e II, já chegou a tocar com eles?
Gostei mais dos anos 60. Principalmente quando vc tocou riffs de U2 e RED HOT CHILLI PEPPERS
eu fiquei com meu fat 50s nela complementa melhor os AV 65 .. mas botei o far 60s na minha mustang ficou o bicho! czcams.com/video/ZT6UMEoOL3M/video.html
Vou lá conferir!
Thanks for this, I thought the Fat 50's have more "depth" of sound if that makes any sense, also a sweeter tone
Yep.. it does... for me at least.
Dude, just keep the Fat 50s. If you want the Fat 60s sounds, put an EQ in the signal chain before hitting your amp. If you want pop, add a compressor.
Great video!
Thanks D. Lord!!!
The Fat 50s have a warmer tone.
Yep..
Nice playing. Definitely prefer the Fat 50s.
Thanks man!! And yeah me too prefer the 50th too..
So would you say the fat 50’s was mid-scooped and the fat 60’s was more balanced?
balanced is not the best word because for my "balance" I prefer the de fat 50s hahaha but yeah more mid and attack on the 60s ... the 50s is more mellow ..
@@MarceloDurham I like the 60s one, but no one’s selling a loaded pickguard and I don’t feel like soldering that much… You said you could be happy with the 60s and dial back the mids further down the signal chain… do you think I’d be happy with the 50s if I boosted the mids a little further down the signal chain? I just don’t want to go the the trouble of upgrading to the 50s and have ‘one that got away’ syndrome about the 60s ones. Literally the only comparison I’ve found is this video.
To clarify: the thing I like about the 60s one is the high e and b strings sounded less harsh to me when you played under the bridge. It’s possible the bite of the mids isn’t coming through as much on the video and I’d find out the hard way that I don’t like it as much as I thought I would.
@@williamnichols6253 honestly i believe that anyone can be happy with any of these pickups 50's or 60's both sound great..
and also my set up is one my preamp in this video is a vox preamp .. so in a different amp will also make a big difference, on my everyday use I have a blues breaker type pedal on all the time to give some more compression and some mids.. so it is al about adjusting you overall sound as well..
@@MarceloDurham Thanks!
The 50’s are more articulate sounding
Yep
Maybe into his amp! But what amp is it?
@@Cheguebuddha joyo ac tone into protools
It’s the focus on trebles that makes them sound more clear
Fat 60s with steel baseplates are amazing.
You have a 7 1/4" radius fingerboard?
Not its a 10 radius by this time in recente times I`ve chance this guitars neck for a 7 1/4 yes .. but not at the time of this video.
thanks for the comment!
@@MarceloDurham The staggered poles are better suited to 7 1/4", you won't get wolf tones.
Thanks a lot
Minor to my ears. One can make magic with either ( not me though LOL)
U made a mistake by not adding in the noisless 4 latest gen.
Hahaha you made a mistake with this comment cause I have them on my other strat..
50s made for maple fingerboard, 60s for rosewood.
😅😂 LOL
nice video. Ty.
let say 60 fat then 50 normal alnico 3 whill be còol
Yeah maybe some 54 mix with the fat 60that wold be cool.
The 50’s have lower output and higher character for me.
I would not say lower output just less mids if you measure them it's quite similar..
@@MarceloDurham ok fair enough 👍
The Fat 50s sound better to my ears.
Yep mine too
Fat 50s sound like a Fender Strat. The 60s sound like most other electric guitars!
Fat 50s FTW
💜👍
I think the 60 are rounder and not sooo chiny,,but they bouth work great,,i get mine 69 today,,cant wait,,but need,,i got the body to pimped up with some Red Flake,,cant wait
Soubds cool! The 69 as really good!! My friend has them..
But I believe the the fat50 as more "round sound" .. for my ears. :)
Возможно я глухой, но я не слышу разницы.
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@@MarceloDurham He just said he might be deaf but he could not hear any difference.
@@andrasdebreczeni1103 thanks for the translation! :)
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I like the fat 60's more. And respectfully i do not agree with your assessment about their frequency charts. I used logic to even check.
1. Fat 50's quite definitely have more top end, they are brighter pickups
2. Fat 50's have more upper mids (1khz to 3khz), so they "Scream" more and have that midrange-y spaciness
3. Fat 60's have more lower mids attack (when you said in your video you get more attack) -- that bubbly type of pick attack is more on the fat 60's and i love that lots
4. The fat 60's are the more modern sounding pickup, more compressed and more scooped sounding. The scoop in the middle mids to upper mids makes it much "cleaner" -- what i'm talking about is very obvious in the clean example you made at 5:20 - Fat 50's sound spacey and 1.5 khz-y, while the fat 60's sound totally scooped and bubble like.