My new boat ! Advantages of Hypalon Vs Pvc (Soft Bottom Inflatables)
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- čas přidán 7. 09. 2024
- Lauderdale Inflatables in Fort Lauderdale, Florida gave me this small Pvc Cadet Zodiac Sib.I knew it would be a great time to also buy a hypalon sib and compare the differences.
The Dinghy series is meant to show what can be done with a small inflatable boat.
Lauderdale inflatables sells both of these boats and usually has them in stock. They can be reached at 954 900-3885
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Above is the Link on Amazon for the Blower I use
some shop vacuums allow you to connect the hose to the OUTLET port effectively turning your vacuum into a blower :)
yes, if you have 120VAC available when you inflate it, wonder if they have a 12 pump similar to a shop vac which pumps out air. Just a shop vac seems even quicker, if you know what I mean.
i had an inexpesive 12 foot pvc boat that i bought brand new for 1000 (newport vessels Catalina), and it served me awesome for year plus that i had it and it held up perfectly well, becuase I kept it covered and away from direct sun. no doubt hypalon is much better. more expensive, but its necessary if you're keeping the boat for years or outside. love the 18' RIB i have now, part hypalon, part fiberglass, seating for 10, lots of storage, and a yamaha in the back. its a chit show every time i go out. :-))) rock on, Alfred.
Excelente Alfred, watched the whole demo, personally like the bigger one for me and space wise also. I know so much more about these inflatables because of you videos. The hose adaptor should be made to twist and lock in then then twist to remove without air leaking during the adaptor removal process. Thanks again again Alfred and your assistant Alyssa for her help.
I agree with you but there is an interesting paradox. PVC has almost completely overtaken the whitewater rafting scene. Almost nobody makes Hypalon boats, at least I don't think they do. It is easier and cheaper to repair pvc "rafts," whether they have transoms or not. The repair kits are cheaper, patch material and glue.
I had a hypalon and loved it, lasted 20 years before I bought it, without patching. I only bought the kit because it's foolish to go down a river without one, or a pump.
Your biggest concern might be the number of chambers. You want the one with more chambers. They also tend to be higher quality overall, and more expensive. Then if you get a leak or tear you don't sink. 😀
The damaged one is a good candidate for Flex Seal tape
Those fittings are made for air mattress pumps. You can get those at Walmart in the sporting goods department
That's some great help you have got there! I think I'd prefer the larger one, cause it's roomier. I'm 6'2 & ripped also.
I want a sea trial video of this zodiac !!!
Awesome Alfred! Can’t wait to see you in the small boat. Once a balsero , always a balsero!😂😉
Give the kid a raise
I've been raising him since birth!
A good patch kit, air pump, and a set of oars or a paddle and u could theoretically cross an ocean.
Ok (dad), your helper earned a trip to the ice cream store for a double scoop cone!! What a little cutie... ok those little boats too.
Find a friend with a 3d printer and you should be able to make a better adapter for your blower. I had to do that for my floating dock & ryobi inflator.
Let’s have some more chit show big Al. Can’t wait for the next one. 👍
I’m cracking up the dog is watching like hurry up damn it this is taking way to long😂🤣
Hey Alfred @1:49 J-B Weld makes a plastic bonder Hugh strength structural adhesive 15 minuets bond I bought on Amazon and it works great repairing plastic 5 gallon plastic buckets ( I'am speaking first hand) It's affordable and worth giving it a try before you throw the boat away. That's what I would do, because I'am a very frugal old yankee.
I have a 13’ sib with a bimini and take it all the time down the intercostal
Its a lot of fun
Draw back is the setup and take down however, in my situation space is limited for other types of water crafts.
I do use a utility trailer to transport
Hope you can make a series on limitations of these types of boats
Great idea Alfred with the blower definitely saves a lot of time always learning from you!
Thanks for the demonstration Alfred
Melissa got the zoom on lock ! She is ready to get paid !
helpful demo Alfred! After your explanation about the seams I'd rather have the hypalon vs the PVC.
Glued seams can be a bigger problem than welded in the heat. I think people create problems for themselves by not dropping the Tube pressure when it's hot ? zyiud have to have oretty high pressure imho, to start having a problem with welded seams. Plus the EWeght difference between PVC and Hypalon, can be a Real issue for a heck of a lot of people. I don't know - yet - how large the range of Zodiac Roll Up Dinghies is, but if they do a 10 ft one, my Yacht tender needs may just have been taken care of. Best Wishes. Bob. 👍🙂🇬🇧🏴🇺🇲
I did not know this was supposed to be a comical Video (lol) between your dog in 10:18 staring at you "like what are you doing?". And your daughter swatting flies and having to get bug spray! The the 6"2" and ripped !
Very good demonstration Alfred. I am driving to the other side of Florida, Venice, as we speak and this is just the size boat I need to float around! Will you ever go back to the shop and show us more of the work you do? Thank you.
Yea but those videos make us way to busy !
@@AlfredMontaner I figured that much. Thank you for answering! Fantastic job all over!
Looking forward to this one .....
Is that my lawn your on? Geeettt ooofffffff 👍👍🐊
Alfred when are you going to do another video of cleaning the interior of a boat
You better take them both out to haul over !!!!!
Let the wife know first so she can make sure your life insurance is paid!
Interesting! And great tips!
Have you watched the CZcams channel, Adventures with Purpose? The inflatables the use, look really nice and are very affordable. You should check them out.
Bill I havnt but i will check them out
Great video what happen at the 16 minute mark 👍
Ever heard of someone popping an inflatable by over filling it?
Ive done it on purpose I have a video on my channel. Its very hard to do
Why is the Zodiac cute? Because it’s slightly smaller than the Achilles. Practical definition of the word “cute”: Smaller than average for whatever the object is.
At my tallest I was 4’11”, so I understand the condescension implicit in the word “cute.” 😏
You should check into thundercats inflatable boats
Anyone have any experience with pvc boats with heat welded seams? Supposedly that solved the problem with glue coming undone in hot climates.
I have used two PVC boats, both from saturn. They are just fine but you have to keep them out of the sun or direct heat. I keep mine inside my home uninflated. They last up to 5 years without complications but I sell them after 3 or 4 years at 50 percent my cost and just get a new one. The one I have now is ZK380, is 13ft long and fits 3 large people comfortably. It cost me 1200 after shipping. Same boat in Hypalon would be about 4000 bucks!! I take it out every weekend to haulover. They get the job done and are easy to fix.
If you were really ripped, Al, you’d be using the foot-pump for that whole boat. 😸
How did you blow them up with the rona ? lol
I've been waiting for this video, thank you Alfred
How do you determine how much air you need in your Rhib ……..currently running a Avon Sr4
Many variables but if you cant walk on it its under inflated
@@AlfredMontaner thank you brother
We use the old "bounce your fist" method.
Very interesting stuff Alfred, anything I know about inflatables I've learned from watching you. I had heard the term RIB but never even knew what it stood for 🤣. Great job Alyssa!!! Way to take one for team Montaner , putting up with those mosquitoes. At least she has an awesome Dad to work with..mine was so mean to his helpers, my Mom and I would always run & hide when he was undertaking a project LOL! Looking forward to the tiny inflatable series!
why is it the minute you said this is a soft inflatable bottom, all i could think of is bro, its miami, soft inflatable bottoms everywhere 🤣
Thanks for the insights. I've been trying to decide on a tender for my Next Boat, weight including the outboard for Davits, depending which Sailboat I get, may be too restrictive for a Hypalon one, and after looking around at forums, it seems great is a real issue for glued Seams, especially if Tube pressure isn't backed off when it's really hot, and for which, it appears dinghy Chaps can be an issue for both Fabrics ? I have seen posts from People who have had no issues with Zodiac welded PVC Dinghies in the Tropics for over 10 years use. I'm Guessing a bit, and can't test it yet, but a lot of people are saying coating the tubes with 303 Aerospace UV protection helps a lot (would factor 70 sun Blocker be even better, or would PVC react badly to it - I'll have to do a comparison test). I'm addition, I think a full top dinghy and Outboard cover in a UV protecting material, that's fast to put on and take off, imho, would greatly extend the service life onlynremoving it when using, and an occasional coating of 303 Aerospace on the tubes, can protect while using, plus the cover itself can be treated to make that last longer as well. There is a business in the USA making covers for Zodiac models, for about 300 dollars in the UV protection material, which is a Fraction of the price of getting Chaps custom made. When I get my Sailboat plus Zodiac, and have done some comparison testing, I'll try to remember to pop back with an update. Best Wishes. Bob. 👍🇬🇧🏴🇺🇲
Which dinghy did u decide on?
@@Bakanelli Provisionally the Seago Hypalon Air Deck and Keel with a full UV Cover (the Seago Covers are Great value too). Planning to get a Seago Liferaft as well, Valise rather than Cannister, as cannister ines are prime targets for thieves. Seago Liferafts have been coming to of Comparitive Tests for literally Decades now. I really like their product range tbh, though they are a bit lacking in Product Testing Videos on CZcams, which I think loses them a lot of sales. It's one of the reasons why a tide me over Sailboat bought on this side of the Atlantic, makes sense, so I can fit it out with known good Gear, and cross to the Caribbean with stuff that is too expensive to ship to the USA, and all that stuff can then transfer over to the New Build from Island Packet. Lots of stuff is Cheaper in the USA, Liferafts and Such ? a hell of a lot more expensive, and frankly, not as good. I am a bit tempted to try the new much higher UV resistant PVC material Tenders, as with good UV Cover they might last well. Tender and Valise Liferaft can both be Secure in Cockpit lockers, and kept under lock and key when I'm off the boat. The 6hp 4 stroke Tohatsu / Mercury should be OK to keep safe as well, though I still have my old 4 hp 2 stroke Yamaha, plus 3x 3.3 hp Tohatsu, one of Which has a Mercury badge on it. All Winterised when put away! and none of which have ever had the Ethanol Fuel Disaster through them. Could get all of those into a foredeck locker after servicing them, and army them as cheap spare Outboards to tide people over For a Tender though, that 6hp 4 stroke is an incredible asset. At full throttle, over 10 miles to a litre of Fuel ? Wow ! Sorry I drifted a bit off topic there. That 10 ft Hypalon Seago should be a nice enough size for me, and not too bad for me to cope with. Best Wishes. Bob. 👍⛵️✨️✨️✨️❤️
@@brownnoise357 what do you think of buying a new pvc zodiac (with welded seems) or same used zodiac or cheap Hypalon ? 🙂
Btw great mpg, havent tested my 2004 Johnson outboard 5hp 4stroke yet..
@@Bakanelli PVC with improved UV resistance does seem to have come a long way, but to be fair, some people using them in the Tropics, have been able to make them last really well, Much depends on having the discipline to put protective covers on them at every opportunity. Plus I have been wondering if coating them with High Factor Sun Blocker say factor 70 ? Regularly would be worth trying. A repair patch of the Same PVC to coat, just to check if there’s any chemical reaction would be worth doing imho.Frankly, if we can get over a 12 year Service Life out of a PVC Dinghy in the Tropics, I’d call that a major win. Heading to the Caribbean on my last Sailboat, I did Have a PVC one to test stuff like high Factor Sun Blocker on. The Seago Hypalon inflatables really are very good value tbh, and their full Covers are easily the cheapest I’ve seen. Chaps do tend to be Custom Made and tbh, are eye wateringly expensive when I looked at getting some in the USA. Zodiac are very well Made, Mercury ones appear to be very nice as well, and out of Season, you can apparently get excellently Dinghy plus outboard package deals. Your Outboard, fingers crossed, should be up there with Tohatsu level figures for fuel economy imho.,It was really good to see the guy doing the Tohatsu 6 hp testing the right way with it all done going flat out with wide open throttle, so we know that is the very worst fuel consumption you are going to get. That he got over 10 miles to a litre of fuel absolutely floored me tbh. Having been stuck offshore in a very strong Offshore wind and rough seas in the Mediterranean, I find the ability to have two 12 litre Fuel tanks in the Dinghy to rotate so you have a Tank with a full throttle range of over 120 miles, a terrific Safety feature tbh. I was lucky, a Speedboat heading in towed us to shore. Frankly that is why I will never get a battery powered outboard. To me, in a Marine Environment, they are nothing but a safety liability in conditions that have ceased to be Millpond Calm. Wide open throttle, and the stored capacity falls off a Clif.The Main thing to note with Petrol / Gasoline Outboards is if your only Fuel option is Fuel Blended with Ethanol, then you must use Ethanol Fuel Stabiliser in the Fuel at All times. Sadly we now have this Severely Damaging Crap being Sold here in Britain now. The Stabiliser adds a protective coating to the Fuel lines, Carburettor or injector pump and injectors, as well as internal engine parts.We really need a Campaign to get the Stuff Banned, plus it also wrecks the Fuel Economy. 15% Ethanol Content, and you lose roughly 30% of non Ethanol Fuel Consumption. First time I used it, was on a Motorcycle Tour down through France through Andorra and around Spain. We had to cut the Tour Short evause the damned stuff ate through our Fuel Budget. My Full Tank range to reserve light on, dropped from 185 Miles, to under 120 miles, at 750 miles plus a day, at economical touring speeds, that adds up fast. Best Wishes. Bob.🤔👍🏴🇬🇧🌟🌟🌟🙂
This is not a boat, this is a swimming pool float.
Hola Alfred!!!
Lo que se ve al final del video donde hay una rampa, donde es???
Alfred who makes a 12’ hypalon inflatable
Maybe achilles
you wont like the pvc with the flat floor they tract really bad.. that inflatable keel will track a whole lot better
Can I have ur old boat ? Lmk . I'm trying to hit the canals
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Your electric pump is slower than the average foot pump
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Duro caballo!
First to fill is the sides!
Second to fill is the floor!
Third to fill is keel!
Fourth to fill is your face with a pie!
You have no clue what you doing do ya?
A bit of a chit show
That should inflate in like 5sec
Cabayeto que heso wow lol
What a joke 😂😂😂
Dude I'm a big fan! but I have to tell you this is a terrible vlog! Stick to blackpoint and your walkabouts or scooter filming! Just being honest!
Tom just cause you dont find value in this video doesnt mean many people will also agree. My channel is about me and the things I want to film
@@AlfredMontaner Thank you for something completely different. You do you. As you said, not all will get it,, but how many get to see what you have shown us. I love to see these houses, docks, and boats.