Santisíma Trinidad vs. HMS Victory Epic Line Battle || Ultimate Admiral: Age of Sail
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- Epic 1 v 1 line battle between spanish monster Santisíma Trinidad and british legend HMS Victory. These two ships actually met in the battle of Trafalagar, the Santisíma was captured.
Ultimate Admiral: Age of Sail was just released out of the early acces, if you enjoyed naval battles in Empire TW or Napolen TW, you should try this game! Great naval battles, campaigns etc. It is from the makers of Ultimate General: Civil war, which is probably the best RTS game I have ever played. I wish there were more new RTS games!
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Viva España 💪🇪🇦🇪🇦🇪🇦
I feel like Santisma could have made a turn to port early. This would give an opportunity to do a stern rake and control the engagement by being to windward of the Victory. Allowing the victory to close with the wind puts the Santisma at a disadvantage.
Stern rakes aren’t a thing is this game. Look for naval action or battle sails videos
@@Ignypop you can but the ai misses most of the shots
@@Ignypop Stern rakes are a thing in this game, because I used to do it all the time.
“AKSHUALLY 🤓” sthu santísima still won
A lot of english people crying in the comments
lol I was gonna say that too they are mad it’s an even fight in a game lol
Victory was a British ship, NOT English,
Santissima Trinidad SURRENDERED to the 2nd rate British ship Neptune at Trafalgar.
@@daneelolivaw602 lol English are the Brit’s
Yes they are, Well done, clever boy, then in that case why not say that? and use the proper name of the country. WELL?.
@@daneelolivaw602 I mean people did call them the English back then we don’t call Americans English soooo you connect the dots
Bloody good battle mate!
La prueba perfecta del poder español ❤️🇪🇦
😌best Satisfying sound effect ever👌 0:56
The ships' appearance in this scene look very similar to those in Naval Action. They maybe shared models
I did not play Naval Action, but the developers are the same, so it is possible. Maybe a bit less detailed
this is very true
World of warships in the 16th century
they are
i have got over 500 hours inNA lol
El Trinidad, ES, el que en la primera descarga de Trafalgar, desarbolo al Victory de Nelson: 👉 Véase, la serie con el nombre *Batalla de Trafalgar: las mentiras de los ingleses, los pecios.* Son unos 4 episodios.
czcams.com/video/r-hBY0Mx7PQ/video.html
*DATOS DE LA BATTALLA* czcams.com/video/8-s1z5wgzUk/video.html
*LA BATALLA*
czcams.com/video/S8E211EewfI/video.html
I tried to watch the video but unfortunately don’t speak Spanish. It was a clear English victory so I’m unsure was to why you’re contesting this now.
@@samlawts1193 no entiendo el ingles, si no hay traductor. Salud2
@@samlawts1193 as que te traduzcan el inicio de la batalla, que aparece al final. Y lo entenderás. Aparte, el 20% españoles eran marineros por la fiebre amarilla de 1802/3, frente al 70% de los ingleses. Salud2
@@samlawts1193 so they translate the beginning of the battle, which appears at the end. And you will understand. In addition, 20% of the Spanish were sailors due to the yellow fever of 1802/3, compared to 70% of the English. Health2. have you seen the english counter army
@@samlawts1193 españa solo perdió 9 navios, y con los 5 requisados a los franceses, solo fueron 4 i.
Poor approach angle from the Victory 1 vs 1 better to have run parrallel and fire from a greater distance and allow the better guns and crew to do more damage, the Victory had taken a lot of damage before her guns could be brought to bear. Certainly in the battle of Trafalgar the British on closing took some damage, but once multiple ships broke the Spanish French lines, several British ships could focus on one target at a time.
En Trafalgar, el Santísima Trinidad barrió al Victory nada más empezar, hasta que no llegaron 5 barcos ingleses más ni se pudo acercar.
@@19piolin82 Pretty much what I said.
Trinidad had 144 guns. But her rapidity of fire was considerably slower than any Royal navy ship. Plus, her weather deck was cannon fit for a sloop.
In reality, she was reduced to ruin by a seventy four.
No man it has 112 guns now in 1795 to 96 it was increased to 140 guns by closing spar deck between the quarterdeck and to 140 around 1802
tommi atkins Of course, the English ships were faster than any other at firing, and there were even some that had repeating cannons and flew a few meters above the water.
Omagazdddd i didnt knowwwww i am so saddf the brittish lost to spanoadds in a gameeeee 😮
Thats not true. Ive been reading for almost a couple hours and nowhere did it say spanish rate of fire is slower than british wtf 😂 it was probably slower at trafalgar since the more a ship is battered, more crew dies/ gets injured, so less rate of fire. La Santísima Trinidad (not santissima trinidad 😅, i just say this since you are so wronged by people saying english instead of british, while at those times we said “los ingleses” and not “los britanicos” to ENGLISH ships) fought 7 ships during trafalgar, not one 74 as you are implying.
Its funny how ENGLISH people get so butthurt that Spain actually had the most powerful, biggest and the only 4 deck ship of the line in history, while we dont give a damn. Both countries had the biggest colonial empires this planet has seen at their respective times. We have been allies and enemies so many times, we have humiliated and helped each other too… i just find respect in that, not competition.
When I see british and spanish history, I see two countries that literally shaped the world we live in today, more than any other. And that makes me proud, on both sides.
@@albertoabolafio9383Spain and the Br*tish empire have different mindset and approach when it comes to managing its subjects. The Br*ts brutally exploited and abused its colonies while Spain helped developing its land and turn it into Viceroyalty. One is a greedy evil empire while the other is a lenient and generous empire. It's sad how the Br*ts brainwashed the world with their propaganda into believing the Spanish empire is bad.
Seems like the tactics are kind of emotionally English, shipbuilt or anchor do you likeously to move a lot quicker, and Paul moves in psychos?
Viva España
Супер. Разобрал его по косточкам)
We need a HMS Duke of Kent mod for this game.
This simulation gave the Trinidad too much credit. She was known as an unstable gun platform, too prone to roll. Her gunners were not as rapid as the Royal Navy gunners. Plus they were using the old fashioned and less accurate linstock firing method.
Yeah the crew of santisima trinidad were just normal poor people that had just a little experience but the ship is dope though
@@User-xp4kl Yeah the officers of Nelson's fleet appeared to agree with you. "magnificent ship" is one quote which comes to mind. A real David and Goliath moment happened when Africa (64) took her on. But I reckon she was beat by then.
@@BigMrFirebird i tought , like most ships in that battle on the franco spanish side, that she just got permanently raked by "smaller" faster ships, since nelson abused the fact the spanish sailors sucked, and his didn't.
@@cseijifja From her very first sea trials when she was only a three decker the Trinidad was known to be so unstable that many thought her fit only for harbour duty as they struggled to have her lower gun ports open to fire without letting the sea in. It's true that many of the Spanish sailors had only been recently conscripted, but many of her officers were very capable and as a whole, their bravery was never in doubt.
well the roll is a thing in this game, it can be abused if you are downwind to have a great fiering arch, but upwing you may struggle with range if you have the sail's up, also the game allows you to outfit all ships with different guns so what it used and what is has in this clip might change wastly :)
Viva España, viva el Santísima Trinidad ❤️🇪🇦
water physic is not perfect tet..look when mast drop to water..
Una buena victoria made by Spain ❤️🇪🇦
El Trinidad se comía al Victory, mano a mano.
En potencia de fuego dentro de una formación en línea, por supuesto; pero era un buque increíblemente lento y poco maniobrable. Una mejor opción sería uno de los navíos de línea de la serie Santa Ana, que mantenía una más que envidiable potencia de fuego (112 cañones) pero con una agilidad de espanto para su tamaño, el no-va-más de la tecnología de su siglo.
Y que, además, era mucho más moderno que el Victory, que era a su vez una copia del navío español Princesa, construido según el sistema Gaztañeta y capturado en 1740.
@@ricardodemarco3486 gracias por la aclaración, decirte que de siempre me gustaron los barcos de vela, sobre todo los de línea. Construí la maqueta del Nepomuceno, en artesanía latina. Saludos
Pirates of the Caribbean style battle lol
Video game simulations are ridiculous, but entertaining. Consider that the 104 gun HMS Victory was seriously crippled and narrowly escaped being boarded and captured by the inferior 74 gun French ship Redoutable (nee Suffren) during the Battle of Trafalgar. Had it not been for the 98 gun HMS Temeraire coming to her rescue, HMS Victory would, likely, have been forced to strike her colors. Following the battle HMS Victory was so badly damaged it had to be taken in tow and was subsequently downgraded.
Victory was never in any danger of being captured by any enemy ship at Trafalgar. the two ships were touching, the enemy ship closed its Gunports, the gunners on Victory had to stop firing, because the guns may well have started a fire ON BOTH SHIPS, the attempt to board Victory was repulsed, by the crew of the Victory in less than five minutes, the Temeraire being the next ship in line, of course engaged the enemy ship, what else would it do. As for Victory being badly damaged virtually every ship engaged in this battle had lost their masts, Victory was not the only ship that needed to be taken in tow.
@@daneelolivaw602 Si la escuadra española no sale de Cadiz. que era la estartegia española, o no se hubierna dado la vuelta una vez navegando en linea, por culpa del idiota de Villeneuve, la batalla hubiera sido otra cosa
She didn't have as much trouble with Redoutable as you say, but you must keep in mind that Victory took focused artillery fire for some 4 hours before she even reached the franco-spanish lines, she first took the 80 gun Bucentaure out of action then moved to Redoutable which was undamaged
@@daneelolivaw602 LMAO...love the delusional anglophiles that view history through John Bull's rosy spectacles. The situation was precisely as I described and Victory needed her line mate to preserve her virtue from the French rogue who blasted her bustle...:)
@@siredwardpellew5929 Anglophiles and patriotic Brits simply can't accept that their cherished national symbols and narratives are often built on John Bull's bluster.
Nelson's Victory _was_ in as much peril as described and _did_ require assistance from Harvey's Temeraire. Please don't make excuses for her actual hardships just because they don't jibe with your nationalistic chauvinism.
No, Victory did not take "focused artillery fire for some 4 hours before she even reached the franco-spanish lines"...lmao...this was _not_ twentieth century warfare with long ranged, rifled naval artillery. Oh dear, you've given me quite a laugh with that silly assertion...hahaha!
Factually, it took the two British columns nearly six hours to draw within firing range of the Franco-Spanish line and it was Admiral Collingwood's Royal Sovereign which lead the first column to break that line.
Nelson's 100-gun Victory, leading the second column, smashed in between the 80-gun French flagship Bucentaure and 74 gun Redoutable. Her point-blank broadside devastated Bucentaure, but in turn received debilitating fire from both French warships. After the brutal exchange of many broadsides, Victory's gun fell silent and her decks were cleared. Again, had it not been for Harvey's Temeraire, Victory would likely have been captured by the Redoutable's boarding party.
Unlike, Nelson's Victory, Harvey's Temeraire engaged the Spanish flagship, 140-gun Santissima Trinidad, while being raked by 80-gun Neptune and the 74-gun Redoutable _before_ maneuvering to rescue Nelson's Victory from near certain capture. Such was the service HMS Temeraire rendered in preventing the capture of Victory that she and her master, Captain Eliab Harvey, were singled out in post-battle dispatches to England. Further, Captain Harvey was subsequently promoted for the bold performance of his ship and crew at Trafalgar.
but thats HMS marie?
Don't you actually need to have a line formation in order to have an "epic line battle?" This is a battle that never would actually have happened....
Well his channel name has already told us something......
Its historically inacuratte
Omahaddd giys lesk classified documents to provee thisss we have to stop thd creator from soing badddd historical battles ir is un accurateee 😮
I mean, Santisima Trinidad and Victory fought each other more times them any other vessels in history.
The only Way Victory could have a chance of winning this fight in real life is with the weathers gage
Bruh, The Santisima has and had no chance of winning against the victory under any circumstance. The rate of fire was immense in the royal navy compared to the spanish
good content got to say (im a youtuber my self)
I understand both are slow moving ships but I think the HMS victory was kinda late to turn to its port side. It only has very few carronades to actually have it get closer. Its easier to avoid the T since its 1 v 1.
Eitherway I do not know the mechanics of the game so my comment might be void. Nice video though.
Véase czcams.com/video/S8E211EewfI/video.html
the ai is terrible in this game.. every ship will attempt the same manoeuvre regardless of its armament
@@ianbeale5980 have you seen the english counter army 🙈🙈🙈🙈
You're truely honoring the word "inacurate" :) faster british fire would have made odds even if not in favour of the british. Also STs roll and poor maneuverability. (Poor crew)
But hell it looks so good.. 💣
The poor crew wasn’t because that was normal, the poor crew happen because a pandemic happen before the Battle of Trafalgar
@@voxpopuli7910 the 'poor crew' happened because most spanish and french sailors had no practice. While RN vessels blocked ports and were on sail for years, allied ships were often blocked in their own ports. Unable to sail and exercise. Thats why britain partially fired 3 times faster than allied ships did. Also RN recruited/conscripted/stole large parts of their crews from merchant vessels, which gave them a basic knowledge and experience about sailing to start with.
Pandemics were widespread on both allied and british ships, that was no reason for poor sailorship. One side simply had practice and time to gather experience, one hadnt.
@@JB17521or that’s weird for the Spanish literally having a sea empire, they have good generals and admirals like Blas de Leso and the admiral at the battle of trafalgar
@@voxpopuli7910 well an empiee that was sinking faster than can with holes. Like france and uk, spain was financially devastated after 7yrs war and french rev. wars. Britain ruled the waves, only a combined franco-spanish fleet could succeed. On their own, both navies would have been crushed in 1v1 against the RN.
While britain was always at sea, habing the seas as only barrier between freedom and invasion, and the allies fleets mostly inactive, due to focus on land, britain could easily blockade most allied fleets in harbor. Cadiz, ferrol, brest, toulon, were all blockaded, and with them large parts of their fleets.
Now, not every ship of course. During the trafalgar campaign a larger french squadron was located at the west indies, meant to join Villveneuve for the invasion of England. They were more experienced than Villveneuves fleet, but they left Guadeloupe to early and were then immediately blocked in Brest by a large british fleet.
A good admiral or general doesnt guarantee you succes. If nelsons crews had been ln franco spanish niveau, Trafalgar had been an allies victory. Ending british naval dominance and maybe leading to England falling to Bonaparte.
The very only reason Nelson decided to cross the T, was the high skill of british crews and low skill of allied crews.
I apologise for always writing so terrible long answers, but i rather complete my thoughts on it than saying few and incomplete words.
@@JB17521or This happened at the beginning of trafalgar and the Victory had to go running. It was the Blenheim and other boats that took the Santisima down, not the Victory. Put that english pride down, its the most annoying thing the english have. Scottish are not like that, nor the Irish nor the Welsh, all humble lads. The english on the other hand think they are the best at everything and their way is the only way. Which is why most people can't stand them.
The superior training, morale and experience of HMS Victory's crew would have more than made up for the Spanish ship's greater number of guns.
Yep exactly, Santisima irl was considered as one of the most unstable ships. Despite having most cannons in the history of ships in age of sails, she performed very poorly, both at st. vincent and trafalgar. Guns only won't and can't win you a battle
But she did pretty well in other battles
"The superior training, morale and experience of HMS Victory's crew would have more than made up for the Spanish ship's"
You have watched too much Holliwood films. The Santisima was entered in 1769 and spent several decades carrying out missions, some of which caused great losses to the British.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_ship_Nuestra_Se%C3%B1ora_de_la_Sant%C3%ADsima_Trinidad
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Action_of_9_August_1780
English wishful thinking right here. Santísima Trinidad wasn't beatable on 1v1 at the time
is necessary steam account to play this game? I don't like steam
Steam's great
@The505Guys someone hacket my account
@@JB17521or someone hacket my account
Never trust technology companies.
Steam is basicly a scam. if a game dont work right two hours in your out of a refund what so ever.
백병전이 없네?!
One on one Santímisa Trinidad would win over hsm victory. It would be 140 guns vs 104 guns it's clear the bigger Santímisa Trinidad would win
Yet still santisima lost to a ship smaller than her
Spain is a playable faction?
Not in a campaign, but in a skirmish yes. You can play as Dutch, Spanish, French, Danish, American, and British
Blas de Lezo never existed 😂
Ща будет мяса
Poor seamanship.
Its a gaaaameeeeeeee
Lo que no se tiene en cuenta aquí, cuando menos, es la cadencia de fuego de los ingleses, que estaban mucho mejor entrenados. Podían disparar varias veces por cada vez que lo hacían los españoles. Tampoco creo que los barcos se equipararan en velocidad. Sin duda, aunque el Santísima Trinidad estaba algo más artillado, en un duelo uno a uno habría ganado el Victory
seguro? solo dos rafagas del santisima trinidad lo desarbolaron en un momento si lo dejan solo. el Trinidad destruye al Victory
@@excorialdelosmares6040 El Victory tenía veinte cañones menos, y estos que tenía de más el Santísima eran los de menor calibre, porque eran los de la cuarta cubierta, por lo que no hacían la gran diferencia. Los cañones más pesados siempre iban en la primera cubierta. Además, la calidad de las piezas también era mucho mejor en la nave inglesa. Además, el Victory era mucho más marinero; mucho más rápido. Estaba mejor diseñado. El Santísima sufrió muchas modificaciones para tratar de solucionar innumerables problemas, y nunca los solventó del todo; era un barco lento, difícil de maniobrar con el timón, incluso con los aparejos, disparaba muchas menos ráfagas por cada una del Victory y no se compara a en velocidad y maniobrabilidad. O sea, no tenía mucho que hacer. Aún así, me gusta más el Santísima, por original y porque la mitad de mi es española, y la sangre tira
@@matiaseduardoferrarichao9040 claro era por la menor preparacion de la marineria, el victory era mas marinero pero mas inestable. y el Santisima no salio bueno en aquella epoca, era un poco a suertes como saliera cada barco.
Pero si el Santisima le da de lleno de costado al Victory... Pobre Victory.
Al Santisima Trinidad decidieron que solo se le podia atacar entre varios barcos a la vez desde que lo descubrieron en el asedio de Menorca, un saludo
God ! even Hollywood at its lowest ebb was more accurate than this ! and some of the replies from children who sit in their bedrooms playing fantasy games knowing less about history as they do about getting a real life.! Google the battle to learn the truth ! try even to read a book ! (small clue , there were more than 2 ships in this battle ),but please don"t confuse a game with real history. the Trinidad did not dismast the Victory and the Victory ended up alongside the Redoutable, wich also struck ! etc. etc. We all like a bit of fantasy with bad graphics but please don"t write inane comments on something that didn"t happen ! respect !
Nobody ever said that this is what happened, grandpa. Somebody just made this for fun. The channel name is literally “historically inaccurate”
My god you guys hahaha you people are such idiots. WHERE DID IT SAY ACCURATE?? also its a game ffs and you can even upgrade your ships to be stronger then normal. How can it ever be historical when its being simulated. Ffs let this stupidity of yours end holly shiz
Ha for all of the comments and history buffs the real out come was that she lost,and was captured,and it was a British victory at Trafalgar so you can one on one in a game all you like the outcome in real life and history says otherwise and that can not be changed by any game the real outcome that is.
Arriba España
Viva España Joder!!!!!