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  • Can a combo-y version of Zombies looking to go off with new Brothers' War uncommon Thran Vigil best the top decks in Modern and 5-0 a league? Let's find out!
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    4:08 Match 1
    20:32 Match 2
    35:34 Match 3
    48:19 Match 4
    1:01:48 Match 5
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  • @theEprophet3
    @theEprophet3 Před rokem +238

    Hi, I was your fourth round opponent, I went through many lines in my head, just to end up misscounting the counters on the carrion feeder xD

    • @beanthebuilder
      @beanthebuilder Před rokem +30

      I'd assumed you miscounted the damage from the Augur. I thought "dang, Seth'll die if he sacks everything to the feeder even if it's unblocked," and then he just started by sacking the augur and I was like ...

    • @canismajor1186
      @canismajor1186 Před rokem +1

      😉

    • @noobtube2799
      @noobtube2799 Před 9 měsíci

      xd rip

  • @VRanger100
    @VRanger100 Před rokem +445

    This SaffronOlive guy should do MTG content. They sound like someone who knows how to brew some nice budget decks and able to pilot them to 5-0.

    • @filippodardi2180
      @filippodardi2180 Před rokem +15

      In usual circumnstances, you're 66% correct :)

    • @winssports4830
      @winssports4830 Před rokem +13

      @@filippodardi2180 66% of the time it works everytime.

    • @betachocolate5992
      @betachocolate5992 Před rokem +8

      I just realized that the deck list in intro was made by Seth. Lul

    • @JTakasa
      @JTakasa Před rokem +3

      They definitely seem like someone who wouldn't punt every other game each stream.

  • @matthewworden6095
    @matthewworden6095 Před rokem +129

    You should make or a rule that every time a budget deck goes 5-0 you make a video of a nonbudget version of it. I really want to see what this deck can do with Cavern like you said.

    • @MTGGoldfish
      @MTGGoldfish  Před rokem +80

      Ohh, that's a good idea.

    • @mykelmontes
      @mykelmontes Před rokem +10

      @@MTGGoldfish Ooh! I would love to see that too! Non- budget version of this deck on the next video please! Thanks! and congrats by the way! More videos!

    • @Jantonio2912
      @Jantonio2912 Před rokem +1

      I concur.

    • @leegammon1267
      @leegammon1267 Před rokem +1

      great idea

    • @Lee-ud7yi
      @Lee-ud7yi Před rokem +2

      @@MTGGoldfish yes please do this. Im really interested in building it in Modern.

  • @LadyMapi
    @LadyMapi Před rokem +163

    I feel like the fact that this normally played like "synergy zombies" was actually a big reason why it won so much - you're essentially a Zombie Aggro deck that dedicated a few slots to a combo that makes most of your deck go infinite.

    • @MTGGoldfish
      @MTGGoldfish  Před rokem +75

      Yeah, that's a good way of thinking of it. Most of the time we play like a synergistic Zombie deck and then once and a while we get to go infinite.

    • @itze_
      @itze_ Před rokem +10

      That's what make the best combo decks so powerful.

    • @michaellooks8397
      @michaellooks8397 Před rokem +4

      Splinter Twin's back, baby!

    • @sharebear421
      @sharebear421 Před rokem +1

      @@MTGGoldfish what’s the best/easiest budget zombie deck for modern?

    • @sappdrinker9268
      @sappdrinker9268 Před rokem +5

      @@sharebear421 this deck 😂

  • @winssports4830
    @winssports4830 Před rokem +39

    This opener 🤣 fantastic. Seth over here breaking the fourth wall.

    • @PieBandit
      @PieBandit Před rokem +4

      Missed an overreaction at merfolk going 5-0

  • @jms4979
    @jms4979 Před rokem +54

    The opponent in round 4 who "messed it up", they probably just miscounted. I have trouble sometimes when I need to do math that involves counting opponent's triggers and I'm not familiar with their deck. If I've, uh, cast too many Cloudblazers, sometimes I'll forget about one of their triggers halfway thru counting. They probably didn't count all the Headless Rider tokens.

    • @ther3aper561
      @ther3aper561 Před rokem +5

      That was my thought. They clearly blocked knowing it probably needed to be but counted and thought they'd live at 1 or 2 and decided not to

  • @Jmblinn13
    @Jmblinn13 Před rokem +40

    There is nothing more endearing than the interactions between Seth and Bear

  • @jakecollin5499
    @jakecollin5499 Před rokem +30

    The amount of psychic damage ragavan does to Seth is insane

  • @ther3aper561
    @ther3aper561 Před rokem +19

    I know this is a Budget deck but I WOULD love to see this in it's top tier form too with like Hearse instead of Lantern and Cavern

  • @ArchenGold
    @ArchenGold Před rokem +34

    That intro is absolute gold.

    • @Linky609
      @Linky609 Před rokem

      I feel like it needs the cranberries to put it over the top.

  • @blueredlover1060
    @blueredlover1060 Před rokem +10

    If I had to guess, the Feed the Swarms are more for dealing with sideboard cards like Rest In Peace and Leyline of the Void than to be actual removal in the deck.

  • @staxi_boi
    @staxi_boi Před rokem +29

    I knew this budget combo had legs when I submitted the idea to you, Glad to see you refine the idea into 5-0 finish with it!!!

    • @virtueofabsolution7641
      @virtueofabsolution7641 Před rokem +1

      Broooooooooo my fuckin MAN. You did kinda spoil it for me but still my zombie brother. What are your thoughts on aristocrats in either modern or pioneer

    • @staxi_boi
      @staxi_boi Před rokem +1

      I mostly brew for modern but I think it aristocrat style decks have legs as long as you have a back up plan for any graveyard interaction, if your interested in what my quick lil deck brew I made looked liked it on the Mtggoldfish fish tank article for November 22 that Seth wrote about.

    • @Juffweena
      @Juffweena Před rokem

      @@virtueofabsolution7641 what are you doing reading comments before watching the video?! 😂😂

  • @Linky609
    @Linky609 Před rokem +8

    The diabolic intent and grave crawler reprints have really helped the zombie decks get powered up while still being budget friendly, seems like a really fun deck.

  • @patriciaboggs8882
    @patriciaboggs8882 Před rokem

    Hey Seth, thanks for the lesson! That is so generous of you to teach us. You have taught us many "lessons" over the years. 😉 😄

  • @alasanof
    @alasanof Před rokem +5

    I'm so glad that SaffronOlive discovered this deck from some player named SaffronOlive who 5-0'd with that deck.

  • @wpmer
    @wpmer Před rokem +1

    Seth, baby talking Bear is something I'd never thought I would see.

  • @riccardogilardi3124
    @riccardogilardi3124 Před rokem +6

    Combo Zombies? Oh, you mean "rotten hardened scales"

  • @heywes
    @heywes Před rokem

    That intro, you smartass! You're so awesome Seth :)

  • @OGNoNameNobody
    @OGNoNameNobody Před rokem +5

    Definitely a crack-start to 2023! 1st _Budget Magic_ 5 - 0 is a ZOMBIE deck!
    But, as soon as I saw the *Thran Vigil* - Persist synergy, my Immediate Thought was *Bastion of Rememberence* for an excellent 2nd path to an Aristocrat-style win. The life gain could help too in a longer match.

    • @Juffweena
      @Juffweena Před rokem

      I was fiddling around with the deck and I was thinking blood artist is better than the zombie drain. But bastion would be a little harder for them to remove.

    • @JaredKerber
      @JaredKerber Před rokem +1

      @@Juffweena
      As far as the drain approach goes, Blood Artist is %100 better.
      However, that does compromise on the beatdown/synergistic pathways for the deck as it fails to trigger many of the other tribal synergy cards like Champion of the Perished, Headless Rider and Undead Augur.
      Another alternative would be cards like Wayward Servant, Corpse Knight and Diregraf Captain which work alright in both strategies.

    • @willashford5861
      @willashford5861 Před rokem

      You can also just go BW and play Wayward Servant which is much better since its a Zombie

  • @dks6515
    @dks6515 Před rokem

    Finally finished building this deck is paper as my first modern deck, i played against a friend a won my second match with the deck. It's so fun and the fact that the deck runs Carrion Feeder (such a cool zombie) is amazing!

  • @JohnyAdrums95
    @JohnyAdrums95 Před rokem +4

    This deck seems sweet, maybe there’s a world where you can focus on the combo and have unearths instead of removal or something? There’s also a world where making it more fair and less combo with other cool zombies. Definitely sweet!

  • @anthonychalmers9296
    @anthonychalmers9296 Před rokem

    Loved the play of getting Castle with Diabolic Intent. Wasn't particularly obvious and think would of lost with most other tutors.

  • @andrewbinder6338
    @andrewbinder6338 Před rokem +6

    "Zoomer Jund"
    Oh, how much that must hurt Richard.

  • @poiri
    @poiri Před rokem

    Big fan of the TV static hat coming out during sideboarding

  • @roadkill2104
    @roadkill2104 Před rokem

    I've felt for a long time that Zombie tribal is highly underrated. This has been great to watch.

  • @acotebra2187
    @acotebra2187 Před rokem

    Got this as my first ever mtg deck. Have alot of fun with it. Would you make a list or post about a version with cards to improve this deck (non budget).
    kind regards

  • @Zeequals
    @Zeequals Před 10 měsíci +1

    Always remember you can sac the carrion feeder to itself to avoid exile or to get death triggers! missed a chance in game 5 to do this with undead augur on the field against leyline binding

  • @ullrich
    @ullrich Před rokem +1

    I've had a pet project Sultai zombie deck that I pulled apart a while back and have been looking to put back together - I wonder if mixing in some of these pieces would be good - even if just Putrid Gobiln and Thran Vigil. I don't know how good that would be with stuff like Prized Amalgam. I gues that needs more stuff that self mills. Anyway, I like the idea of Sultai Zombies, just haven't been able to get around to making it work well.

  • @nothumanaftrall2068
    @nothumanaftrall2068 Před rokem +1

    I could be totally wrong, but at 27:51 if you were gonna sac the zombie token to D. Intent, would it not have been better to do so pre-combat? 2 more card draw triggers instead of 2 damage?
    I love all your content Seth; you give me as much serotonin as my depression meds, so thank you for your contribution to mine and everyone’s mental health!

  • @AlTheGator0
    @AlTheGator0 Před rokem

    Love this shirt! I'm definitely going to play this one a bit for 30 tix I don't see why not

  • @holadavidponcelas
    @holadavidponcelas Před rokem

    Loving the content man! Congrats!!
    One question. Would make sense change the enchantment thran Virgil by the metallic mimic?

  • @billycornwallis9336
    @billycornwallis9336 Před rokem +1

    Murderous redcap might be a good addition as makes the combo instantly lethal

  • @7deuc2e38
    @7deuc2e38 Před rokem +1

    I'm gonna have to jam vigil in my zombies commander deck, makes for a nice backup plan when I'm looping gravecaller with phyrexian altar for infinite death triggers

    • @jayjayhooksch1
      @jayjayhooksch1 Před rokem

      Even if you're in mono black there should be enough payoffs for Phyrexian Altar+Gravecrawler loops that you don't have to go as low as Vigil. Vigil is just too weak on its own whereas the rest of your payoffs are actually good in the deck.

  • @stonerainproductions
    @stonerainproductions Před rokem +1

    Instead of Zombos, I like Combzie or Combzo. I know the intro was a joke but I preferred not to know you 5-0'd personally. Great video, thanks for the fun content.

  • @rayk5785
    @rayk5785 Před rokem

    Outstanding wins and a cool video. Thanks💀

  • @DorkaTor
    @DorkaTor Před rokem

    Yeah, I don't know what it is ether with OBS as of late. The green screen filter seems to be upset with the latest updates. What light are you using anyway?

  • @ursulcx299
    @ursulcx299 Před rokem +8

    You could say it,s a Zombo Combie deck to make it more fancy

  • @derekhall8453
    @derekhall8453 Před rokem

    I used to hate your voice, but now I can't get enough of that goofy energy you give off. Great content as always

  • @andrewcrane5105
    @andrewcrane5105 Před rokem

    Bahahaha. Dude I cracked up so hard at "I might have to try this for Budget magic or something" then one second later "hhhheeeeelllllooooo" 🤣

  • @XaviFornells
    @XaviFornells Před rokem +1

    You have to try meathook massacre in this deck! It goes literally crazy

  • @macmusial3644
    @macmusial3644 Před rokem

    I'm not surprised that Putrid Goblin has real potential outside of pauper, the card is actually kind of crazy because of how impactful the shifted color and types are compared to Safehold Elite. Black is the color that has the best outlets for persist combos, and zombies and goblins both have lots of aggression and sacrifice support that fit well as the shell for a deck like this or Moggwarts, so it makes sense that the card is going to be strong if there's ever something that combos efficiently with it.

  • @maazsarkar8673
    @maazsarkar8673 Před rokem

    YAAAAAAY you saw my tweet

  • @syrtallerin4936
    @syrtallerin4936 Před rokem

    the combo is also very good in commander deck like "Bhaal lord of murder" cuz he has the same effect.

  • @panman644
    @panman644 Před rokem +1

    In game two against obosh red couldn't you have won a turn earlier by not playing the champion, using the three open mana to draw then play plague blecher and drain/saccing for the win? Also this combo is going in my combo zombies EDH deck.

  • @jamesstone7895
    @jamesstone7895 Před rokem

    Would standard thran vigil be better in orzhav or rakdos 🤔

  • @brendanmangino2956
    @brendanmangino2956 Před rokem

    Blood artist allows for another 2 mana win con, it doesnt have zombie synergies but balances out the life loss from undead auger.

  • @sharebear421
    @sharebear421 Před rokem +1

    How did he get scion out with only 3 mana with 1 tapped? It says -2 cost for each basic land you control
    Also what’s one of the better/easier budget zombie decks?

  • @kelsojava
    @kelsojava Před 2 měsíci

    “Zombo combo” Seth! It was right there!!

  • @Juffweena
    @Juffweena Před rokem +24

    Should be playing Bitter Ordeal for a second win condition.

    • @MTGGoldfish
      @MTGGoldfish  Před rokem +18

      Ohh, I love it!

    • @Linky609
      @Linky609 Před rokem +1

      Yuck

    • @starmanda88
      @starmanda88 Před rokem +3

      Ok that’s a new one for me 😂 gravestorm!

    • @Juffweena
      @Juffweena Před rokem +1

      @@starmanda88 future sight was said to have future mechanics so maybe we will see more one day. 🤷🏼‍♂️

    • @holadavidponcelas
      @holadavidponcelas Před rokem +1

      And what do you think of metallic mimic instead of Tharn vigil?

  • @b.b.9364
    @b.b.9364 Před rokem

    Surge engine is a good two of in azorious artifact aggro in Pioneer. I am happy with it

  • @alvarojareno6617
    @alvarojareno6617 Před 6 měsíci

    Can u play this with Liliana untouched by death or the las hope?

  • @kyleveronda1467
    @kyleveronda1467 Před rokem +2

    Could use goblin bombardment or blasting station for other win cons. And use rythmn of the wild for even more synergies

    • @JaredKerber
      @JaredKerber Před rokem

      Wayward Servant, Corpse Knight and Diregraff Captain as well. Diregraff Captain even has the upside of working in both the drainy loop combos and regular beatdown strategies.

  • @tzvirubin9708
    @tzvirubin9708 Před rokem

    soul guide lantern is nice here, but relic of progenitus turning on thran vigil, and with there being so many gy decks rn, i almost want a few mainboard

  • @droslag3555
    @droslag3555 Před rokem

    Do you think a non-budget version would run aether vial?

  • @tolerateit13
    @tolerateit13 Před rokem

    Do you have a 5 tix version of this?

  • @theblart7535
    @theblart7535 Před rokem

    I really liked that Otawara became Ottawa 😂

  • @jamesmcglough5985
    @jamesmcglough5985 Před rokem

    I had no idea you were on about Jegantha :-) you are saying Jen gatha. Had no idea demonic tutor ish card was printed to modern

  • @dwarfinside
    @dwarfinside Před rokem

    Hi Seth, would you have played Geralf’s messenger in a non budget version? Would you replace plague belcher with it? Just wondering, it seems to streamline the combo. Thanks!

    • @jayjayhooksch1
      @jayjayhooksch1 Před rokem +1

      Plague Belcher is more expensive than Geralf's Messenger. But more importantly Geralf's Messenger doesn't combo with anything in the list.

  • @christianco905
    @christianco905 Před 9 dny

    If a card with undying and persist attacks and dies. Will they return tapped or untapped?

  • @poopoo8170
    @poopoo8170 Před rokem +3

    I wonder how much aether vial would help this deck

  • @marcantoniosavelli1710
    @marcantoniosavelli1710 Před rokem +1

    Altar of Dementia! It's both a sac outlet and a wincon!

  • @olmolozano2652
    @olmolozano2652 Před rokem

    My only deck from the time i played was very similar to this apart for the goblin + thran vigil combo, instead i used to play grave pact to swipe opponents board
    P.D.: lol at relic tron assembly

  • @chips8623
    @chips8623 Před rokem

    Feels like you should cut 2 Diabolic Intent and 2 Thran Vigil, make the beatdown plan more reliable but still keep the combo in your pocket

  • @iTzDritte
    @iTzDritte Před rokem +1

    Not directed at Seth but at spikey viewers, let 17:17 be a lesson about always playing out your lands and not holding them to bluff.

  • @wemf2
    @wemf2 Před rokem +20

    Hey Seth, did you forget that Feed the Swarm can remove Enchantment?

    • @the_r4ts
      @the_r4ts Před rokem +11

      Hitting Leyline Binding with it *hurts,* though

    • @JaredKerber
      @JaredKerber Před rokem +6

      Yeah, zombies as a tribe really like to tank their controller's life total in the name of card draw; which can make it difficult to spend life elsewhere.

    • @androcider
      @androcider Před rokem +5

      @@the_r4ts could have hit that RIP in game 3 of match 1 and comboed off

    • @gabrielpiche5565
      @gabrielpiche5565 Před rokem +1

      7 damage to kill a Leyline is not good. Better put another Zombie instead.

  • @Zerothas
    @Zerothas Před rokem

    Lol Seth the combo is lightning fast. Just turn Carrion Feeder into a 20/20 right away it'll take 30 seconds off your clock.

  • @Annabunny-
    @Annabunny- Před rokem +1

    Love the Ween shirt

  • @drspoik
    @drspoik Před rokem +2

    Would you consider replacing Thran Vigil with Metallic Mimic an upgrade? The Mimic can be killed easier, but it synergizes with the rest of the deck more and the combo is executable on the opponents turn

  • @calebmorris6106
    @calebmorris6106 Před rokem

    Dat intro though 🤣

  • @refundreplay
    @refundreplay Před rokem

    I'm curious why you didn't add at least 1 copy of Murderous Redcap. it has persist and deals damage equal to its power on ETB

  • @Someone-lg6di
    @Someone-lg6di Před rokem

    In match 4 last round i feel u should have tutored for plague belcher or other scource of drain

  • @jamesrule1338
    @jamesrule1338 Před rokem +1

    Hard to suggest improvements to this deck, but would Unlicensed Hearse be a better replacement for Soul-Guide Lantern? Repeatable graveyard removal with the option to have a zombie token drive it for beatdown purposes. The slightly higher casting cost offset by most of the zombies being cheap already.
    Mind you, such an upgrade would greatly increase the cost of the deck.

    • @MTGGoldfish
      @MTGGoldfish  Před rokem +2

      Yeah, Hearse is an upgrade, but it's too expensive for the budget :(

    • @ArchaicEX
      @ArchaicEX Před rokem +2

      Beatdown is one thing, but I think the main advantage to Hearse in this deck is it allows you to use Gravecrawlers and Carrion Feeders as pseudo blockers despite their text.

  • @lloydlineske2642
    @lloydlineske2642 Před rokem

    That match 1 game 1 hand! I can't ever get a Full House in a 5 card poker hand. 😥

  • @hocuspotus9755
    @hocuspotus9755 Před rokem

    Motion to rename the deck to combo zombos?

  • @TyFree1993
    @TyFree1993 Před rokem

    Tragic Slip would be perfect creature removal for this deck.

  • @Tenshukage
    @Tenshukage Před rokem +2

    Thran Vigual lol Love ya seth

  • @lionheart8076
    @lionheart8076 Před rokem

    what an exciting deck!

  • @whaleofdarkness
    @whaleofdarkness Před rokem

    This deck is from SaffronOlive? Not from some small Japanese tournament?

  • @brendancollins4817
    @brendancollins4817 Před rokem +2

    I never realized+1/+1 and -1/-1 counters cancel out. I always thought of them as separate counters that exist on the card.

    • @LeviClay
      @LeviClay Před rokem

      They should be, it’s just a lazy thing we’ve all just accepted. :(

    • @dementievatz
      @dementievatz Před rokem

      It would certainly change how some combos work if they didn’t remove each other.

    • @LeviClay
      @LeviClay Před rokem

      @@dementievatz it’s just so poorly implemented. If a card says “add a -1/-1 counter” and then I proliferate, it’s so counter intuitive to be told “there isn’t a -1/-1 counter to proliferate” why? The card just told me to add one…

    • @ConManAU
      @ConManAU Před rokem

      It's definitely counterintuitive, but I even checked the comprehensive rules and apparently they annihilate each other as a state-based action (122.3), so it's not even something you can respond to in any way.

  • @ishtarsdonut4489
    @ishtarsdonut4489 Před rokem

    Mtg formats are super interesting. I might be wrong but I really doubt this deck would be able to perform in standard right now, but it tears through modern somehow

  • @philcoats6812
    @philcoats6812 Před rokem +7

    Metallic Mimic does the same thing as Thran Vigil in the deck, but it also is a body for extra synergies, and functions as a pseudo Lord making your aggro strategy stronger, and it doesn't turn off on your opponents turn. Unearth hits every creature in the deck, seems worth a look, especially considering that the creatures are combo pieces.

    • @winssports4830
      @winssports4830 Před rokem

      It's also way easier and more consistent to remove. So tick for tat. You could maybe add one or two but I wouldn't run it over vigil.

    • @philcoats6812
      @philcoats6812 Před rokem +3

      @@winssports4830 I would absolutely run the creature in the creature synergy deck that beats down for most of it's wins over the enchantment. The one or two redundant copies should be Thran Vigil.

    • @winssports4830
      @winssports4830 Před rokem +1

      @@philcoats6812 I disagree but ok. I'd rather have the one that's not as easy to kill. As someone who plays modern a lot metallic mimic will not live long enough for you to combo with it.

    • @philcoats6812
      @philcoats6812 Před rokem +2

      @@winssports4830 bodies on the board that beat down look pretty important to the deck that wins by beating down on the board with bodies.
      The combo is less important than the creature synergy beat downs, right?
      Mimic furthers the beat down plan. Vigil does not. Both further the combo plan.

    • @TabbyLikeAKat
      @TabbyLikeAKat Před rokem

      @@philcoats6812 In a format where all the most popular removal is 1 mana instant speed/the land of Solitude and Fury, all of which kills Mimic, that feels much weaker as there's far less Enchantment hate in Modern especially main deck. Besides, that effect is strong in the deck so I'd rather have that effect more consistently > a 2/1

  • @underakillingmoon
    @underakillingmoon Před rokem +1

    I feel like a blood artist would be better in this deck than the headless rider. What do you think?

    • @tbaggins5349
      @tbaggins5349 Před rokem

      Artist > belcher but rider allows you to just go wide with casting and sacing crawler over and over again. Which does matter imo.

  • @CptManboobs
    @CptManboobs Před rokem

    *The Canberries play softly in the background.*

  • @ZSAITOSEI
    @ZSAITOSEI Před rokem

    Holy crap that breaks Grimgrin into pieces 🤣

  • @onixalmighty
    @onixalmighty Před 3 měsíci

    match 3 turn 6 while talking about overcoming a punt, forgets how the combo works a second time and misses lethal by casting the second champion of the perished instead of drawing to the plague belcher and winning right there; love ya Seth, streaming is hard

  • @connormohs6046
    @connormohs6046 Před rokem +3

    Big miss to not name this “Zombo Combo”

  • @sirusburningham4521
    @sirusburningham4521 Před rokem

    48:11
    Nice face save

  • @patarfuifui
    @patarfuifui Před rokem

    "During your turn" is such a weird restriction tbf

  • @rojasmusic4588
    @rojasmusic4588 Před rokem +1

    Would dismember or damn be better removal for scion of draco and other larger creatures?

    • @MTGGoldfish
      @MTGGoldfish  Před rokem +3

      Yeah, there are lots of options for removing bigger creatures. Dismember is good, but doesn't hit everything (like Primeval Titan). Damn is solid, although awkward without white mana. Maybe just Infernal Grasp is the way to go.

    • @Xsam3dg
      @Xsam3dg Před rokem

      @@MTGGoldfish i would love to see an orzhov non budget version of this deck, Wayward Servant and damn in addition to cavern

    • @Juffweena
      @Juffweena Před rokem +1

      @@MTGGoldfish I was looking into bone shards for creature and planeswalker removal since we can sac and persist back but can always discard a gravecrawler.

    • @JaredKerber
      @JaredKerber Před rokem

      @@Juffweena
      I love Bone Shards! I just wish it shared some more text with Eaten Alive. Who knows though, maybe the next variant of the card will.

  • @CptManboobs
    @CptManboobs Před rokem +4

    Deck needs a random Rites of Consumption so it can win without needing to pass back.

    • @MTGGoldfish
      @MTGGoldfish  Před rokem +3

      That does sound super spicy! I might add a copy.

  • @LadyMorrigan
    @LadyMorrigan Před rokem +3

    Now im really curious if non combo zombies can actually be decent in modern, the deck looked really good lol

    • @jms4979
      @jms4979 Před rokem +1

      I had a janky ass historic UB zombies deck that wasn't even tuned, just the wilds I had laying around at the time. I won't say the deck was _good_, but zombies can snowball real easy. Obviously historic is not modern, but the tribe is powerful in non rotating formats.
      It's one of those things in Magic, where if A is only 85% as good as B, nobody will play A. Zombies is like a third tier tribe, so nobody plays them.. But for us amateurs, we're gonna give up way more win %age to punts than to playing a suboptimal deck, lol. If zombie tribal makes you happy, I think it is totally playable in everything short of legacy and vintage. Your win %age in modern with a tuned humans deck vs a tuned zombie deck is gonna be a little worse with the zombies, but not THAT much worse. They both can snowball if unanswered, and you trade some taxing and interaction for more resilience to non-exile removal.

    • @jms4979
      @jms4979 Před rokem +7

      Champion of the Perished I think made zombies a borderline-playable tribe everywhere.

    • @beanthebuilder
      @beanthebuilder Před rokem

      Yes
      in fact, Seth played it a few months ago

    • @DarthOzy
      @DarthOzy Před rokem

      Yes, I like to play zombies with aether vial and collected company, it's pretty dang strong.

  • @kingginger3335
    @kingginger3335 Před rokem

    I think I know the answer to this question which is no. But, if you Thought Seize your opponent and force them to discard an Instant spell. Is the opponent able to cast that spell in response to the discard? As I said, I think the answer is: No the opponent cannot do that. If I'm wrong and the opponent can cast the spell, provided they have the resources available, please explain.

  • @biologicallyfancy3781
    @biologicallyfancy3781 Před rokem +2

    Wouldn't ayara first of locthwain make the combo lethal?

    • @Juffweena
      @Juffweena Před rokem

      Yes

    • @JaredKerber
      @JaredKerber Před rokem

      Yup, the same is true for Wayward Servant, Corpse Knight and Diregraf Captain.
      The Plague Belcher already in the deck does so as well.

  • @tuuru3433
    @tuuru3433 Před rokem

    Budget 12-crab modern mill please!

  • @invertedname3099
    @invertedname3099 Před rokem

    Just bought the deck. Gonna add 4x cavern of souls.

  • @dongatubes
    @dongatubes Před rokem

    Good deck

  • @gomorrhagaming8151
    @gomorrhagaming8151 Před rokem

  • @jacksonmullen5246
    @jacksonmullen5246 Před rokem

    Thoughts on a nykthos?

    • @MTGGoldfish
      @MTGGoldfish  Před rokem

      It's too expensive for the budget, but it could be interesting for non-budget builds. I wouldn't play four because we don't have much to ramp into, but maybe as a one-of.

  • @MagicTheChattering
    @MagicTheChattering Před měsícem

    Zombo combo was right there! 😂

  • @ryangadberry1613
    @ryangadberry1613 Před rokem

    I don't know why I'm just now seeing this show up in my feed, but I really want to know what this deck would look like as a wallet draining pile. Rakdos for terminate? Find room for Yawg? Who knows????