I've fired several small 25's, and found all of them - even the cheapies - to be surprisingly accurate and no problems with feeding. For a small pocket gun, they would be my first choice. Of course, we have all been told that they lack power to stop a fight. Strangely, I have never heard this from anyone who was shot with one, so I'll withhold judgement for now.
I recently heard a statistic from a credible LE source that said the in larger amount of murders committed in the USA in a year where a firearm is used is done with small caliber guns like these.
I remember watching my first Paul Harrell video, it was his analysis of the FBI Miami shooting. Paul is a great teacher, and a good video maker! I would love to take one of his classes!
Me too. And I agree he's a National Treasure. I don't think he's ever uttered a word I don't agree with. He's detail-oriented. He's experienced. And he likes to experiment
I was under the impression that the .25 acp was designed to be ballistically equivalent to .22 long rifle with the reliability advantages of a centerfire cartridge, certainly appears to be the case.
Wow, talk about a completely fair, unbiased comparison. Without a doubt, this has got to be the best comparison of handgun calibers that I've ever seen. Thank you for uploading this.
Very true paul is a go to for great information and not the usual gun expert snob that Always makes off 22 and small calibers as he tries to make a video .
The original James Bond gun in Ian Fleming's James Bond books was a Beretta .25 before graduating to a .32 Walther PPK. A Walther PP was used in the movies! I once had a .25 Beretta, which I had no complaints about, but sold it and bought a .22 Beretta because of the cost of ammo. I put over 5,000 rounds through it with never a misfire with CCI ammo. I never really saw any difference between the .22 and the .25 either, back in the 1980 s, except the price of ammo.
Ian Fleming was issued a .25 in WWII, and he kept it and it wound up in his estate. Listed as a Browning .25, the 1908 model with grip safety, possibly a FN , however the serial number matches a Colt 1908, .25 .
Thanks for another great vid Paul. I spent over 35 years handling firearms in law enforcement, and everything you tell us Paul, is absolutely 'spot on.' You are one of the very few utube presenters I just can't fault. One thing that was brought home to me over my working years is that in a self defense situation, providing that it is in good working order and you have the necessary skills, any gun is much better than having no gun at all. Please keep up the great vids Paul. Kindest regards.
I always appreciate Pauls honest, unbiased, matter of fact approach in his videos. He doesn't have an agenda, he's just trying to help people make a decision
It's 2016 almost 2017 and .22 ammo is running at a better price. I am so impressed with the professional quality of you videos and tests. thank you so much. It means a lot to the regular Joe out here.
Yeah, that price surge lasting as long as it did got me out of shooting it. I sold my gun and over 1000 rounds of 22 ammo. I had plenty to shoot, but I just couldn't justify spending comparable cost per bullet to 38spec or 40S&W
HE SAID “UM!” Ive watched nearly every PH video and today at 4:13 I heard him say “um” for the first time. This is a top-notch presenter and speaker, folks.
I can tell youre a smart guy Paul, most of the other ammo comparisons on youtube fail to see the subtle nuances that can skew results from being perfectly fair. Good job brother
In a day of over blown, and I do mean over blown presentation. Paul's careful considered approach is relaxing, refreshing, and even on things I know well, and have put a great deal of thought into, Paul has a way of just adding to it. He is one of the few gun guys that I will actually rewatch videos from.
Very enlightening video, thanks. For what it’s worth, I’ve been carrying around a .25 slug in my back for 57 years. A negligent discharge into my left bicep traveled around my rib and lodged a couple of inches from my spine. Army doctors said no need to remove it, so there it sits. No lasting Ill effects.
Don Wolfberg don't judge this guy is the absolute best. Informative and educational without judgment or option filled nonsense. If I had the finances to help support somebody through patreon it would be him.
Even his "old" videos are still top shelf. Paul has such a way of making complicated things seem simple. And he has a wicked sense of humor. When that soda jug sprayed him, you could hear the sigh of irritation like he's thinking "of all the directions it could have sprayed, it chose me". I love this guy. And this is the most dangerous man in any room. Quiet, soft spoken, unassuming, and oh so deadly. This guy could kill you without getting angry, and *THAT* is one dangerous cat
Paul has seen the Elephant (more than once) and came out on top. There is no substitute for that and if I'm gonna listen to someone else on this subject it's close to a requirement.
I think it comes down to this: most of us have a small collection of .22 rimfire rounds that failed to fire. But I for one can’t think of a single time I’ve had a centerfire round fail to go bang. John Browning wasn’t stupid. That was the whole point of him creating the 25. Ballistics aside, the reliability of a 25 versus a 22 alone makes most other issues a moot point.
Very different experiences from mine. I have had one dud out of all the 22 I've ever fired. Even that dud wasn't a dud per se, the bullet just had issues, namely being overloaded so the casing ripped up. Just two weeks ago my buddy's 9mm had three bullets that didn't fire. Had the pin strike, just didn't fire. So it definitely happens with center fire
I can count on one finger how many duds Ive had out of the tens or maybe even hundres of thousands of .22lr ive fired, but then I stay away from remington ammo so that might have something to do with it.
@@capnpicard6146 Remington Cyclone & Thunderbolt .22 LR had a reputation for being dirty, varying velocities and unreliable. Remington Standard velocity and Golden Bullet types were a lot better. PMC used to be lousy also. CCI Blazers seem to be the best of the budget .22 LR. Most of my duds I had over the year were the ones I mentioned.
@@jefferyfite7122 I mostly shoot CCI mini mags and pretty much anything Federal other than American agle. Your mileage may vary but none of my .22's like AE. Ive heard aguila, lapua and elay make some pretty quality .22 but It just impossible to get in my area.
Great vid. I’ve been in law enforcement and the security field since 2010, and I’ve seen these little mouse guns do some serious up close and personal damage. I’d recommend a Beretta 25 acp Bob Cat in 25 acp if your going the mouse gun route. If you want to use a 22, I’d go with a revolver due to questionable reliability from rim fire rounds. If one doesn’t go off, pull the trigger till it does. The 22 mag smith and Wesson 7 shot PD is a excellent choice. Just my 2 cents. Stay safe, vigilant, and protect other’s my good people✊
Shove even a little gun in someone’s guts and fife till the targets clothes jam the gun and you will have done some serious damage. So yeah I don’t want to be shot by any gun.
Bill Jordan was asking S&W to make that gun when he wrote "No Second Place Winner" in (iirc) 1960's. It took them long enough but S&W finally got it done. If Mr.Jordan thought it was a good idea, it's damn sure good enough for me!
That's a nice video to show people that .25acp is not junk, i have bought guns and i feel by hand no differences between then and i knew about the fps information you gave us, but some people keeps talking about something they don't know, in my opinion.22lr is for training and plinking, for backup and self defence .25 acp is adequate.
+Tom Well Just to reference your own words about some people talking about something they don't know. I and most real gun people will tell you a .25 is NOT adequate for self defense and a .380 backup gun is much much more powerful at pretty much the same size. The .25 is not really GOOD for anything, not sure why it hasn't died yet.
Given the reliability of quality .22 ammo in a well operating gun is probably around 99%, I'll take my chances using a .22. Also affords me the ability to practice a lot more and have more fun in general. If you are going to buy one and not shoot it much, then .25 ACP would make sense.
My wife just bought a 1908 Colt .25 acp manufactured in 1927, it feeds perfectly, is easy for her to shoot and accurate at 7-10 yards. She will use it for her Concealed Carry permit this year. I am setting up reloading for the little cartridge, and it looks like a fun project.
I think a lot of Paul and these videos. He's very intelligent and definitely has the most interesting channel. No screaming and yelling or tough guy attitude just great info and demonstrations
That Baby Browning is quite an impressive little gun. The main thing I took away is just have a gun. And you’re more likely to have one handy if it’s tiny. Great video, as usual!
Very good comparison and demonstration. I pocket carry either a beretta 21a or a compact 9mm. I’m comfortable with each. Important is to have it with you always
Love these older Paul Harrell videos. Kind of a snapshot in time. Even in the six years since this video the new 22lr ammo and firearms have kept improving. When I'm going lightweight I carry a S&W M&P 22C with magazine conversions to 14rds and two additional 14rd mags.. Running CCI Stingers for carry ammo I'm happy with 43 rounds of 22lr.
EXCELLENT Video ! First honest comparison of the two calibers in small handguns I have ever seen. Definitely sheds a different light on them. I sometimes smile to myself when I tell someone that I do own a 6.35 mm pistol and they are "impressed" yet when I tell them I also have a .25 caliber they remark about how bad that caliber is. LOL
I've been shot with a .22 lr from a small pocket pistol. let me tell ya... IT HURTS A LOT!!! i was lucky and only got shot in the arm. (Bar fight where two guys were fighting and i was an innocent bystander in the bar. one pulled the pistol and fired missing his expected target and hit me in the arm) I can tell you from experience if you get shot with a .22 lr you are done. you don't want to keep advancing on someone. Pay no attention to people who have never been shot who come on youtube trying to tell you that the .22 lr is too weak for self defense. They have never been shot by any caliber firearm. so they are not speaking from expertise or experience. They have no clue unless they have been shot with that caliber. one bullet was enough for me.... nevermind getting shot more than once....
I agree that I'm probably done after getting hit by a pellet rifle but there are definitely people that wouldn't even notice. Especially if some kind of drugs are involved
Ray Davis You were not fighting and likely weren’t in fight or flight mode and weren’t overwhelmed with adrenaline so of course you felt it. When pumped up on drugs/chemicals I.e.adrenaline, it’s not the pain that stops a man, it’s literally stopping the functions of the body. Please think about different ends of the spectrum.
i been shot by a 22 long rifle and drove a 66 no power steering with a 4 speed to the hospital and it took 56 min to get there it didn't hurt for about 15 min but boy did it after that but would not slow me down just u need to hit a good spot then they drop i got shot in the hand from a tweeker trying to break in are shop but he lost that battle i have a mix german shepperd and timber wolf doesn't make a sound lets just say he all most didn't make it to hospital . i just jumped in my truck and left him with the dog my friend saved his life and called the dog off
I had my head blown off by a stick of dynamite. I just duct taped it back to my neck and finished my shift in the mine. Really didn't hurt unless I thought about it.
One point in favor of the 25 acp is being able to get proper FMJ bullets as opposed to the plated lead found in 22. I've yet to be convinced about the lighter expanding bullets, I prefer the 50gr standard FMJ bullet from the fastest round available to give the best penetration if anything hard gets in the way of the bullet. At the close distances these little guns are meant for, 9 rounds of 25 acp from a fast firing Beretta 950. or similar are going to stop anyone, IMO, if you can hit the target as discussed in the video. No I wouldn't choose 25 acp if I knew I was heading for a fight, but sometimes a little pistol is all you can conceal, or it may be all you have left if your main carry fails or is lost in a scuffle. Those who mock 25 acp would I'm sure rather have one than nothing in a self defense situation.
Really cool to look back at your older videos. That ammo drought in 2014 is nothing compared to what we have now, 7/18/21. That said, I have a Baby Browning .25, a Beretta 21A .22 and am currently shopping for a Beretta 950 .25 even though I normally carry either a 9mm, .45, or even a revolver in .38/.357, these little pocket guns certainly have their place.
Yep I've kept a lil Beretta Jetfire, and a couple Bobcats since the mid 90s. After searching for 25yrs, I finally found what I've wanted, a Beretta model 20! It's the size of the Jetfire, but double action like the Bobcat. It's perfect!
I bo8ught one of the Ravens for giggles in the mid 70s. I may have gotten a Wednesday gun but it was clean, atleast as accurate as Paul's and never malfunctioned even with the cheap steelcased ammo.
Rimfire/rimmed cartridges in general are hell in semi-autos. Afterall, .25 ACP was designed to have the same ballistics as .22, but in a center-fire package
Hi, VERY well done video comparison! Frankly I was shocked at the penetration of BOTH the .22LR and .25 ACP Hollowpoints! Most "experts" will tell you go with FMJ on both for penetration. You addressed both the Historical and practical aspects of both cartridges. The MAIN point you stressed, which in my Opinion that is most relevant in a self defense scenario with both Rounds is targeting the right area! Excellent vid thoroughly enjoyed it!
MrWegank Watch the rest. You have my word you will not be disappointed and, despite Paul's self-deprecating comments about his 'yakking', those parts are absolute gold. Guy's a natural orator and teacher.
I've never understood the use of these pocket pistols, mostly due to lack of exposure. Now I feel more educated and might just go buy one for some plinking. Nice video.
+ScottishMinor before when people spoke of pistol its what they refered to,full size handgun where for army officers and the usual caliber was 30 32 or 38. but because hollywood ...everyone wanted to get the big thing up to .50 (lol) no one really is able to shoot it in real life situation,nor no one carry those....but hey look cool with friends
Never really knew anything bout the 25acp and i remember watching this vid a couple years ago learning something new. Rewatchin it now is still informative and entertaining
3:22 Fun fact: during the filming of this presentation, the range became crowded, so Paul used his magical powers to shrink down next to a normal cinder block wall.
My father decided to clear out his house in preparation to moving... i ended up being given my mothers old .25 ACP from QFI. as i wasnt familiar with this particular firearm i decided to do a bit of research on it and low and behold, i find a Paul Harrell video on .25 ACP. ... thanks Paul, now, let me get back to researching this pistol.
@@GlockPointer yeah , those vary wildly from you'll have one that'll almost never jam to one that you can't get it to run right , usually though most I've seen that are jam o matic have damaged springs or haven't been broken in , or are utterly shot from wear or factory incompetence If it feels gritty , just work the action till that feeling eases up or stops Then oil it If the springs look bent , they're typically just hardware type springs , so you can order them online and not bother with hunting down a specific replacement Just get the size , gauge and strength right If holes seemed to be weirdly shaped or oversized , and the pins are loose , go a size up on spring pins
You should have seen how wide open my eyes got after the first 2 or 3 shots of 25 at 7 minutes in. Paul, you're a great American. Thanks for keeping the bar high for us gun owners and triggering us to practice often.
Excellent Presentation and I really appreciate the time and effort with sincerity that you took in making this video. Wish we had more Instructors/Presenters like you. Thank you so very much again.
I have a Browning 1906 custom made around 1947 for my great-grandfather, Edward H. Brooks. He was a Major General in the US Army at the time and held the Caribbean command (now Southern Command). During a visit to Chile, the Commander in Chief of the Chilean Military presented him with several honors, one of which was this pocket pistol, the oval on one grip panel reads "Gen'l EHB" (his initials), and the oval on the other grip panel is the Chilean shield. I also have the presentation box and an original box of ammo! Despite it being 70 years old, I keep it cleaned and well oiled, and it shoots well, so I do pocket carry it from time to time when I can't comfortably carry on my hip or appendix.
I'd buy a newer gun in the same config. Don't carry your great-grandfather's pistol around. If you ever had to use it in some "freak" SD situation , it would be confiscated and you might not ever get it back. Not worth the risk of losing it over some fool trying to rob/hurt you , such fool is not worth family history/heirloom.
In the dirty South where it is hot AF and humid, these little gems hide in your shorts everywhere you go. Good luck with that and a full sized rig. Those stay in the truck, you just need to break engagement and this works fine. Great video Paul, as usual.
Another difference--.22 small pistols are blowback, while .25 are positive extraction. That means if a .22 fails to cycle, you can't get the casing out by racking the slide. You have to hold back the slide and use a fingernail to get the shell out. A .25 can (usually) be cleared by racking the slide. In a defense situation, that is a major difference. Also, I think the nice .32 compact pistols were another factor in replacing the .25.
You're right in the 380acp replaced 32acp and the 25acp and pretty much all pocket pistols .nowadays you're seeing these small single stack 9 mm 40s close to size as the 380s but not exact, .. but the 380 and 38 snub r my favorite for concealment. And if you can't stop an attacker with five to seven shots with any caliber let alone .38/.380 then u need some more practice
I use a .32 acp as every day carry (fits right in my pocket) and it made me feel good to hear someone like you say they carry a .25 around most of the time. I'd like to see more videos about mouse guns. Keep up the good work.
Hey one thing I came across not mentioned . Mag dumping two beretta 950 one in .22short one in .25acp . You wouldn’t think but that little A.C.P. Really cycles a lot faster! It made me appreciate the design of auto cases vs. rim for revolvers! .22 short are probably the oldest self contained ammo still made!
@Rev Marcell: the Beretta Bobcat has double strike capability. Have the 21a & 32acp Tomcat. Very nice arms for me. Fires quality ammo (Federal Auto-match, CCI mini mag on 22lr and Geco 7.65 on the Tomcat) VERY reliably
@J N Morgan voting for PPC in the next election is suicide if you're a gun owner. Don't split the vote until we get the ban undone. Erin O'Toole of CPC is def not a centrist and I recommend you check him out. However, vote as you will but if gun ownership is very high on your priority then you'll at least check him out. If you haven't already joined the CCFR, I would highly recommend that as they are fighting the ban in court and please donate to their legal campaign!
@J N Morgan Otoole on the CCFR channel said he would repeal the firearms act in its entirety and replace it with something more friendly to gun owners. Otoole is also against mass immigration from what I know of him. I like Mad Max but I think he would have better chances if he were in the CPC still but I think he is done with them after his leadership run.
@J N Morgan well... the biggest ant colonies can build anthills spreading over 1 squared km. Who knows how big could be a statue if they'd put any effort into it :))
+Tunde Akinyele knowing you have a gentleman's pistol in your inside breast pocket to slow the roll on any skulldugry makes me fell better so i hope you carry at the office to ,i secret carry a bauer 25 for 4 years at the office and i know others are to. freerange that 25 on your person.
The boring part of Paul's videos are some of the best parts of all his episodes, which speaks volumes upon volumes of his insight, because his demonstrations are what I would call professional.
I would like to see 25 acp make a come back. NAA made a 25 cartridge that was really neat for a pocket pistol but thats about the only improvement of that little guy. I think 25acp is probably a better choice than 22lr for a self defense pistol mostly because of the reliability factor however the poor choice of guns chambered in 25 and some of them being quite antiquated makes me question that reliability factor hence the need for 25 acp to make a come back so we have new guns chambered in it. I can say this 22lr zips pretty fast and has a tendency to do nasty wounds with the bullet tumbling going different directions and splitting apart were as 25 and 32 acp usually just goes in the target straight and narrow.
40 years ago, when firing a .25 RN during a robbery attempt, across the counter in a Pizza Inn restaurant, its performance was excellent. one shot did the job.
Great info for first time gun owners looking into getting a 22lr pistol for a self defense gun. Yes ammo is smaller but in CA ammo is very difficult to get. A box of 22 is available and cheap.
Mr. Harrell, your talks are not boring at all!! I enjoy watching you shoot and listening to your very instructive talks. I have subscribed and look forward to watching all your other videos, past and future; and I will definitely recommend your channel to my friends. Keep up the good work!
I have a Beretta 950B and a 21 in .25. It is a fun caliber to shoot. I have found that pistols in general are picky about .22 ammo, there is a huge variation in quality and loading with .22, not so much with .25
I like the 8 round Ruger .22 LCR (a revolver). Reliable revolver action, 8 round cylinder, lightweight, fits the hand. The reason that 22 ammo is sometimes hard to find is that EVERYONE is hording a ton of it. So buy a couple of bricks or in an apocalyptic meltdown ammo dearth make sure you have friends; they'll have 22 ammo. You won't find many folks with 25 acp but everyone will have some 22!
Nice job, Paul. I too am a military guy and now a firearms instructor. Having just discovered the small calibers as viable self-defense options (no double entendre intended), I would appreciate a video on my latest fascination, the .32 ACP. Thanks for all the great videos!
Thank you Sir, for this video. before my grandfather passed he gave me his 1908 25 ACP. I am happy to say I have it but always wondered the type of questions that you managed to answer in your video. I will look out for the Speer gold dot ammo.
Though I enjoy Mr. Harrell's channel a lot, I believe he missed the two most significant factors in the comparison: 1. reliable functioning, and 2. penetration. First, the .25 acp pocket pistols are a world apart from the .22 rimfire because the .25 cycles and ignites the primer much more reliably than any .22 rimfire pocket pistol. The .25 projectile is of a smooth copper jacket offering minimal friction when chambering whereas the rimfire utilizes a dry, sticky lubricant that both creates lots of friction along accumulation of the lubricant at the mouth of the chamber. Couple this with the minimal mass of the slide coupled with a relatively weak slide spring leading to .22 rimfire pocket pistols that suffer significant failure rates to reliably cycle their ammunition. Also, the .25 acp's center fire primer fires more reliably than a rimfire primer. This is because the rimfire pocket pistols feature weak hammer springs that frequently fail to deliver an adequate dent to the rim of the cartridge case; conversely, the .25 acp primer was purpose built for the application. Second, the .25 acp delivers superior penetration than the .22 rimfire from pocket pistols. Both caliber configurations generate similar muzzle velocities, but the .25 enjoys a 20% weight advantage for greater momentum. The .25 with a copper jacket compared to the raw lead of the rimfire means the .25 is less likely to deform during penetration. This is significant since the 60 - 70 ft. lbs of energy available is quite marginal at best for reliable penetration. Any projectile expansion will only reduce that marginal penetration. For these reasons, the .25 acp pocket pistol is a better choice than the .22 rimfire; neither being a good first choice of course.
I just finished watching all this guys videos.... This guy paul is a crazy dude that has a lot of important information. I really hope that he makes more informative videos. He also has the personality and ability to talk on camera that a lot of these way bigger channels have. In summation: Paul gets a 10/10!
This was the first Paul Harrell video I saw, and his calm demeanor seemed odd to me. Paul’s reasoning and presentation skills were much different than any other presenter I had seen. A couple years later, and Paul is my go to guy, and I’m a proud Patreon supporter of his channel.
Basically the 25 ACP was the superior cartridge because more reliable and easier to load with traiditional magazines, but was killed due to politics. Always the same story
I have the Beretta 21 & 21A, each costing between $250 and $400 depending on what kind of deal you can swing, but $350-$400 is kind of the going rate, now. The 21A prefers .22LR CCI Stingers, but the .25ACP is not picky at all, when it comes to ammo. The 3032 is just slightly larger, shoots the .32ACP, stings a little bit, between your thumb and index finger, but it is a great little tiny pocket gun that is less picky than the expensive elitist Seecamp. I like the Seecamp, but I chose the 3032 over the shiny nickel Seecamp.
Raven, Jennings, Phoenix, Galesi, were the budget ribstickers of my youth. A baby Browning was $300! The Saturday night specials were under $100, and they worked most of the time.
My Raven P25 auto out-performed my friends ^Colt^ 25... and we swapped guns twice. His jammed twice and the Raven actually seemed more accurate. Since we were plinking at cans, not regulation targets, this assessment might not actually be accurate. But I'll keep my old nickle-plated Raven, thank you.
I inherited a Titan .25 by FIE from my grandfather. At 20 ft, this lil guy is really good. I use Winchester 50 gr Silvertips. My lil 22 LR seems more accurate at longer distances than that. I will agree that when I 1st tried to find modern ammo for the 25, it was limited to FMG, round nose military style, or 35 gr hollow points. Now I can get several different types fairly easily. I like my 25. It's loud and rude, pretty accurate close range, and is so tiny, I can put it in my pocket and it looks like a set of keys (bulge) . I don't think it could hit the broad side of a barn when shooting across a street, but up close and personal, it's lethal.
Very well put together video with excellent points. Thank you ! I am so sick of hearing keyboard warriors with little real world experience run down the 25 APC. I carry a 1908 in a Blackhawk pocket holster daily, and with the right ammunition, feel just fine about it. Love your work, have subscribed. Keep em coming !
Paul.....you are such a nice , patient man. You take the time to explain in terms a wide audience can understand. I really like your videos. (I also hope I never make you upset. You are a great shot!!)
@@johnnybarbar7435 my comment was simply about all the sugar from the soda jugs and oranges or grapefruits plus the bits of meat scattered about after a Paul Harrell video shoot. This must certainly draw ants as well as bees and other bugs.
I have a lot of faith in my little Colt .22LR body pistol, it's cool to see an expert validate my very non-expert opinion. Sure it's only a .22, but all these rounds are going right where it hurts because this thing is a tack driver. Thank you Paul!
I have a 21A that my wife liked to carry when arriving and leaving work in downtown Santa Ana, CA. It and the ammunition that I fed it, has worked every time.
I just inherited my grandfather's Beretta 950 B from the late 60's that's chambered in 25acp. It's in fantastic condition so I may buy a box of quality ammo and try it out
I know this is an older video, but I would add another advantage to the .25 acp and that is the ability to handload for it. Because it is a centerfire, you can roll your own, making the ammo much more affordable.
What a great presentation. I happened to watch it because my older brother is bringing his mint .25ACP Beretta Jetfire down to shoot next month - he bought it new in 1968 before the new law Paul referenced went into effect, and has rarely fired it. Can't wait to try it. While I think there is little doubt that - for most people - .22lr is going to be a more practical choice, this does a great job clearing up a lot of misconceptions out there when these two calibers are compared.
Paul is the only guy that can inexplicably make 2014 look like 1995. I love it.
I expected to see those three flashing circles in the upper right hand corner when it was time to change the film.
1985
Plot twist: These videos were all filmed in the 90s
@@alexm566 bruh!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
The man stands tall.
I've fired several small 25's, and found all of them - even the cheapies - to be surprisingly accurate and no problems with feeding. For a small pocket gun, they would be my first choice. Of course, we have all been told that they lack power to stop a fight. Strangely, I have never heard this from anyone who was shot with one, so I'll withhold judgement for now.
I recently heard a statistic from a credible LE source that said the in larger amount of murders committed in the USA in a year where a firearm is used is done with small caliber guns like these.
@Miles Doyle Well now we know why they named you "Miles!"😆
@Miles Doyle Is… is this the CZcams version of that guy who stands outside of my town’s post office yelling at everyone?
Ive always said this in the .25 is useless conversation,
You know who isnt laughing at
.25 cals? All the people dead from them.
@Miles Doyle Jesus, I was wondering if my cheap Florida made .25 pocket gun was effective, instead I get a preachy Tolstoy novel. Thx King James
"...can be difficult to use" *nails bullseye on first shot*
Sean Clifford hahaha bro you had dying with this comment.
I’ve been binge watching Paul’s videos for the last 24 hours. This guy is priceless. The best.
24 hours? Ha lightweight
I remember watching my first Paul Harrell video, it was his analysis of the FBI Miami shooting. Paul is a great teacher, and a good video maker! I would love to take one of his classes!
Those are rookie numbers. You gotta go higher
Me too. And I agree he's a National Treasure. I don't think he's ever uttered a word I don't agree with. He's detail-oriented. He's experienced. And he likes to experiment
He is quite good, isn't he?
I was under the impression that the .25 acp was designed to be ballistically equivalent to .22 long rifle with the reliability advantages of a centerfire cartridge, certainly appears to be the case.
Yeah, interesting to learn that it was actually killed by the government more than anything else. Go figure...
Wow, talk about a completely fair, unbiased comparison. Without a doubt, this has got to be the best comparison of handgun calibers that I've ever seen. Thank you for uploading this.
I agree!
Very true paul is a go to for great information and not the usual gun expert snob that Always makes off 22 and small calibers as he tries to make a video .
Paul Harrell is what you call a professional.
"These guns are really hard to shoot, and the sights are really really hard to see. Excuse me."
>holds a better group than I ever have
The original James Bond gun in Ian Fleming's James Bond books was a Beretta .25 before graduating to a .32 Walther PPK. A Walther PP was used in the movies! I once had a .25 Beretta, which I had no complaints about, but sold it and bought a .22 Beretta because of the cost of ammo. I put over 5,000 rounds through it with never a misfire with CCI ammo. I never really saw any difference between the .22 and the .25 either, back in the 1980 s, except the price of ammo.
Ian Fleming was issued a .25 in WWII, and he kept it and it wound up in his estate. Listed as a Browning .25, the 1908 model with grip safety, possibly a FN , however the serial number matches a Colt 1908, .25 .
The camera guy’s frustrated sigh of disappointment after getting showered in soda was priceless
Priceless
Haha right?
With a bit of thought, carbonated water would do the same thing, without being all sticky with sugar, just air dry.
He is the camera guy - pay attention.
@birage I think it’s because he’s got a vengeance for sugary sodas
Thanks for another great vid Paul. I spent over 35 years handling firearms in law enforcement, and everything you tell us Paul, is absolutely 'spot on.' You are one of the very few utube presenters I just can't fault. One thing that was brought home to me over my working years is that in a self defense situation, providing that it is in good working order and you have the necessary skills, any gun is much better than having no gun at all.
Please keep up the great vids Paul.
Kindest regards.
“The baby Browning has sights but they’re very difficult to use”
*5 headshots between the eyes*
“For practical accuracy that’s pretty good”
Nils Valskaar yeah i laughed at that point
I'm better..When you match a 20 year USMC MstGnySgt with his .45 Colt Commander... you did something amazing.
Nils Valskaar just be glad he did not do it at 50 yards like he does snub nosed presentations
Lmao.
+J.T. Cooper who's the dead guy in your thumbnail
I always appreciate Pauls honest, unbiased, matter of fact approach in his videos. He doesn't have an agenda, he's just trying to help people make a decision
Chelonia Mydas He does unbiased analyses
It's 2016 almost 2017 and .22 ammo is running at a better price. I am so impressed with the professional quality of you videos and tests. thank you so much. It means a lot to the regular Joe out here.
flatophall .22 ammo is way to much money i used to pay 2 cents per bullet 6 years ago lol
It's back down to .5 cent a round most places. During the Obama era, you would be lucky to find it at .10 a round, so I'm not complaining.
Yeah, that price surge lasting as long as it did got me out of shooting it. I sold my gun and over 1000 rounds of 22 ammo. I had plenty to shoot, but I just couldn't justify spending comparable cost per bullet to 38spec or 40S&W
Paul is a gentleman and a scholar. American ingenuity and individualism isn't dead yet.
In 2021, 22 ammo is around 20 cents a round last i checked... And it was even more expensive in 2020.
His vocal patterns and usage of syntax hasn't changed in a decade. Not even a little. Such a rock he is!
HE SAID “UM!”
Ive watched nearly every PH video and today at 4:13 I heard him say “um” for the first time. This is a top-notch presenter and speaker, folks.
I noticed that too. Almost a double take moment.
I can tell youre a smart guy Paul, most of the other ammo comparisons on youtube fail to see the subtle nuances that can skew results from being perfectly fair. Good job brother
Back for seconds. Always informative and always entertaining.
Now how about .25 vs the new and improved Meat Target?
Thanks again Paul.
Richard Hoepfner hopefully we can also see it with the new and improved high tech fleece bullet stop
In a day of over blown, and I do mean over blown presentation. Paul's careful considered approach is relaxing, refreshing, and even on things I know well, and have put a great deal of thought into, Paul has a way of just adding to it. He is one of the few gun guys that I will actually rewatch videos from.
Very enlightening video, thanks. For what it’s worth, I’ve been carrying around a .25 slug in my back for 57 years. A negligent discharge into my left bicep traveled around my rib and lodged a couple of inches from my spine. Army doctors said no need to remove it, so there it sits. No lasting Ill effects.
I once read " Nobody wants to be shot anywhere with anything!" That fits the 25 acp, too! 😉
Paul: “It has sights, but they can be very difficult to use.”
Also Paul (one frame later): *shoots bullseye*
Your video actually comes off as a classic educational video from the 80s, I was very surprised to learn that this video was recorded last year
LOL!
Don Wolfberg don't judge this guy is the absolute best. Informative and educational without judgment or option filled nonsense.
If I had the finances to help support somebody through patreon it would be him.
Fake news fake expert
some people are old school some are douchebags. you sir, are the latter.....
These do have that pre digital video media available to the masses, look of "professionalism" to them.
Even his "old" videos are still top shelf. Paul has such a way of making complicated things seem simple. And he has a wicked sense of humor. When that soda jug sprayed him, you could hear the sigh of irritation like he's thinking "of all the directions it could have sprayed, it chose me". I love this guy. And this is the most dangerous man in any room. Quiet, soft spoken, unassuming, and oh so deadly. This guy could kill you without getting angry, and *THAT* is one dangerous cat
Paul has seen the Elephant (more than once) and came out on top. There is no substitute for that and if I'm gonna listen to someone else on this subject it's close to a requirement.
I think it comes down to this: most of us have a small collection of .22 rimfire rounds that failed to fire. But I for one can’t think of a single time I’ve had a centerfire round fail to go bang. John Browning wasn’t stupid. That was the whole point of him creating the 25. Ballistics aside, the reliability of a 25 versus a 22 alone makes most other issues a moot point.
@Kjs you dont shoot .22 enough then. Very common to have multiple duds out of a box of .22.
Very different experiences from mine. I have had one dud out of all the 22 I've ever fired. Even that dud wasn't a dud per se, the bullet just had issues, namely being overloaded so the casing ripped up. Just two weeks ago my buddy's 9mm had three bullets that didn't fire. Had the pin strike, just didn't fire. So it definitely happens with center fire
I can count on one finger how many duds Ive had out of the tens or maybe even hundres of thousands of .22lr ive fired, but then I stay away from remington ammo so that might have something to do with it.
@@capnpicard6146 Remington Cyclone & Thunderbolt .22 LR had a reputation for being dirty, varying velocities and unreliable. Remington Standard velocity and Golden Bullet types were a lot better. PMC used to be lousy also. CCI Blazers seem to be the best of the budget .22 LR. Most of my duds I had over the year were the ones I mentioned.
@@jefferyfite7122 I mostly shoot CCI mini mags and pretty much anything Federal other than American agle. Your mileage may vary but none of my .22's like AE. Ive heard aguila, lapua and elay make some pretty quality .22 but It just impossible to get in my area.
Great vid. I’ve been in law enforcement and the security field since 2010, and I’ve seen these little mouse guns do some serious up close and personal damage. I’d recommend a Beretta 25 acp Bob Cat in 25 acp if your going the mouse gun route. If you want to use a 22, I’d go with a revolver due to questionable reliability from rim fire rounds. If one doesn’t go off, pull the trigger till it does. The 22 mag smith and Wesson 7 shot PD is a excellent choice. Just my 2 cents. Stay safe, vigilant, and protect other’s my good people✊
I second that. Good advice.
Shove even a little gun in someone’s guts and fife till the targets clothes jam the gun and you will have done some serious damage. So yeah I don’t want to be shot by any gun.
Bill Jordan was asking S&W to make that gun when he wrote "No Second Place Winner" in (iirc) 1960's. It took them long enough but S&W finally got it done. If Mr.Jordan thought it was a good idea, it's damn sure good enough for me!
Thanks, it did clear up a lot of bunk for me. Also reminds me that the 1968 law needs major amending.
That's a nice video to show people that .25acp is not junk, i have bought guns and i feel by hand no differences between then and i knew about the fps information you gave us, but some people keeps talking about something they don't know, in my opinion.22lr is for training and plinking, for backup and self defence .25 acp is adequate.
+Tom Well Just to reference your own words about some people talking about something they don't know. I and most real gun people will tell you a .25 is NOT adequate for self defense and a .380 backup gun is much much more powerful at pretty much the same size. The .25 is not really GOOD for anything, not sure why it hasn't died yet.
Given the reliability of quality .22 ammo in a well operating gun is probably around 99%, I'll take my chances using a .22. Also affords me the ability to practice a lot more and have more fun in general. If you are going to buy one and not shoot it much, then .25 ACP would make sense.
My wife just bought a 1908 Colt .25 acp manufactured in 1927, it feeds perfectly, is easy for her to shoot and accurate at 7-10 yards. She will use it for her Concealed Carry permit this year. I am setting up reloading for the little cartridge, and it looks like a fun project.
I think a lot of Paul and these videos. He's very intelligent and definitely has the most interesting channel. No screaming and yelling or tough guy attitude just great info and demonstrations
Paul: You worked really hard at making a good presentation. Well done.
That Baby Browning is quite an impressive little gun. The main thing I took away is just have a gun. And you’re more likely to have one handy if it’s tiny. Great video, as usual!
Very good comparison and demonstration. I pocket carry either a beretta 21a or a compact 9mm. I’m comfortable with each. Important is to have it with you always
It did have an 80's feel to it, I love this video. Very interesting!
Love these older Paul Harrell videos. Kind of a snapshot in time. Even in the six years since this video the new 22lr ammo and firearms have kept improving. When I'm going lightweight I carry a S&W M&P 22C with magazine conversions to 14rds and two additional 14rd mags.. Running CCI Stingers for carry ammo I'm happy with 43 rounds of 22lr.
This is my exact set up! Wasn't expecting to find this!
EXCELLENT Video ! First honest comparison of the two calibers in small handguns I have ever seen. Definitely sheds a different light on them. I sometimes smile to myself when I tell someone that I do own a 6.35 mm pistol and they are "impressed" yet when I tell them I also have a .25 caliber they remark about how bad that caliber is. LOL
I've been shot with a .22 lr from a small pocket pistol. let me tell ya... IT HURTS A LOT!!! i was lucky and only got shot in the arm. (Bar fight where two guys were fighting and i was an innocent bystander in the bar. one pulled the pistol and fired missing his expected target and hit me in the arm) I can tell you from experience if you get shot with a .22 lr you are done. you don't want to keep advancing on someone. Pay no attention to people who have never been shot who come on youtube trying to tell you that the .22 lr is too weak for self defense. They have never been shot by any caliber firearm. so they are not speaking from expertise or experience. They have no clue unless they have been shot with that caliber. one bullet was enough for me.... nevermind getting shot more than once....
Ray Davis you should watch the video of the officer who carries 145 rounds. Some people require more then one.
I agree that I'm probably done after getting hit by a pellet rifle but there are definitely people that wouldn't even notice. Especially if some kind of drugs are involved
Ray Davis You were not fighting and likely weren’t in fight or flight mode and weren’t overwhelmed with adrenaline so of course you felt it. When pumped up on drugs/chemicals I.e.adrenaline, it’s not the pain that stops a man, it’s literally stopping the functions of the body. Please think about different ends of the spectrum.
i been shot by a 22 long rifle and drove a 66 no power steering with a 4 speed to the hospital and it took 56 min to get there it didn't hurt for about 15 min but boy did it after that but would not slow me down just u need to hit a good spot then they drop i got shot in the hand from a tweeker trying to break in are shop but he lost that battle i have a mix german shepperd and timber wolf doesn't make a sound lets just say he all most didn't make it to hospital . i just jumped in my truck and left him with the dog my friend saved his life and called the dog off
I had my head blown off by a stick of dynamite. I just duct taped it back to my neck and finished my shift in the mine. Really didn't hurt unless I thought about it.
One point in favor of the 25 acp is being able to get proper FMJ bullets as opposed to the plated lead found in 22. I've yet to be convinced about the lighter expanding bullets, I prefer the 50gr standard FMJ bullet from the fastest round available to give the best penetration if anything hard gets in the way of the bullet. At the close distances these little guns are meant for, 9 rounds of 25 acp from a fast firing Beretta 950. or similar are going to stop anyone, IMO, if you can hit the target as discussed in the video. No I wouldn't choose 25 acp if I knew I was heading for a fight, but sometimes a little pistol is all you can conceal, or it may be all you have left if your main carry fails or is lost in a scuffle. Those who mock 25 acp would I'm sure rather have one than nothing in a self defense situation.
Really cool to look back at your older videos. That ammo drought in 2014 is nothing compared to what we have now, 7/18/21.
That said, I have a Baby Browning .25, a Beretta 21A .22 and am currently shopping for a Beretta 950 .25 even though I normally carry either a 9mm, .45, or even a revolver in .38/.357, these little pocket guns certainly have their place.
Yep
I've kept a lil Beretta Jetfire, and a couple Bobcats since the mid 90s.
After searching for 25yrs, I finally found what I've wanted, a Beretta model 20!
It's the size of the Jetfire, but double action like the Bobcat.
It's perfect!
@@metalbuggy Very cool. I've never even seen a 20 in the flesh.
@@VMEMotor5, it took me 25yrs of looking!
I wish Beretta would have made it longer.
@@davehart7943 Those lil buggers are getting rare too!
I'll keep ya in mind if I see one at my LGS
@@davehart7943 I did end up getting one off of Gunbroker. Very happy with it.
Back in the late 70s a gun dealer friend recommended the 25 over the 22 because the 22s jammed more often and had much more lead build up to clean.
That and centerfire primer is in general more reliable.
Taylor West - Yes! Rimfire vrs Center Fire.
19th Century had Large Calibers in Rimfire.
I bo8ught one of the Ravens for giggles in the mid 70s. I may have gotten a Wednesday gun but it was clean, atleast as accurate as Paul's and never malfunctioned even with the cheap steelcased ammo.
Rimfire/rimmed cartridges in general are hell in semi-autos. Afterall, .25 ACP was designed to have the same ballistics as .22, but in a center-fire package
For shure but my 22 sig with modern amo performs better than my cz 75...witch is a legend when it comes to relaybilty.
Hi, VERY well done video comparison! Frankly I was shocked at the penetration of BOTH the .22LR and .25 ACP Hollowpoints! Most "experts" will tell you go with FMJ on both for penetration. You addressed both the Historical and practical aspects of both cartridges. The MAIN point you stressed, which in my Opinion that is most relevant in a self defense scenario with both Rounds is targeting the right area! Excellent vid thoroughly enjoyed it!
You sir, are awesome! I'm a NRA instructor and I learned a ton in your 2 videos I watched! Bravo, keep up the good work! 👍🍻
Thanks. Glad you found the info useful.
MrWegank Watch the rest. You have my word you will not be disappointed and, despite Paul's self-deprecating comments about his 'yakking', those parts are absolute gold. Guy's a natural orator and teacher.
bad sound to try and listen to
Only two videos? You should really be brushing up for your own students. That said, thanks for your service as an instructor.
I've never understood the use of these pocket pistols, mostly due to lack of exposure. Now I feel more educated and might just go buy one for some plinking. Nice video.
+ScottishMinor before when people spoke of pistol its what they refered to,full size handgun where for army officers and the usual caliber was 30 32 or 38.
but because hollywood ...everyone wanted to get the big thing up to .50 (lol) no one really is able to shoot it in real life situation,nor no one carry those....but hey look cool with friends
Never really knew anything bout the 25acp and i remember watching this vid a couple years ago learning something new. Rewatchin it now is still informative and entertaining
3:22 Fun fact: during the filming of this presentation, the range became crowded, so Paul used his magical powers to shrink down next to a normal cinder block wall.
One of many factors that can affect individual chronograph readings
The winner goes to which ever one you have on you when the need arises.
So .25 then because its more likely to go bang.
Your accuracy with that little .25 is amazing!
best video I've seen for comparison between 25 ACP and 22LR. proves both deadly at Short distances
My father decided to clear out his house in preparation to moving... i ended up being given my mothers old .25 ACP from QFI. as i wasnt familiar with this particular firearm i decided to do a bit of research on it and low and behold, i find a Paul Harrell video on .25 ACP. ... thanks Paul, now, let me get back to researching this pistol.
I have one, a true Saturday night special. It jams every other round or so. Gotta be a 10# trigger pull.
@@GlockPointer yeah , those vary wildly from you'll have one that'll almost never jam to one that you can't get it to run right , usually though most I've seen that are jam o matic have damaged springs or haven't been broken in , or are utterly shot from wear or factory incompetence
If it feels gritty , just work the action till that feeling eases up or stops
Then oil it
If the springs look bent , they're typically just hardware type springs , so you can order them online and not bother with hunting down a specific replacement
Just get the size , gauge and strength right
If holes seemed to be weirdly shaped or oversized , and the pins are loose , go a size up on spring pins
You should have seen how wide open my eyes got after the first 2 or 3 shots of 25 at 7 minutes in. Paul, you're a great American. Thanks for keeping the bar high for us gun owners and triggering us to practice often.
@Harry Peterson 3 or 4 times. Mostly central Wisconsin.
Excellent Presentation and I really appreciate the time and effort with sincerity that you took in making this video. Wish we had more Instructors/Presenters like you. Thank you so very much again.
I actually look forward to your “boring” part of the videos.
Perhaps I’m a bit strange, but I never fail to learn something new.
Thanks Paul. 👍🏻
I have a Browning 1906 custom made around 1947 for my great-grandfather, Edward H. Brooks. He was a Major General in the US Army at the time and held the Caribbean command (now Southern Command). During a visit to Chile, the Commander in Chief of the Chilean Military presented him with several honors, one of which was this pocket pistol, the oval on one grip panel reads "Gen'l EHB" (his initials), and the oval on the other grip panel is the Chilean shield. I also have the presentation box and an original box of ammo!
Despite it being 70 years old, I keep it cleaned and well oiled, and it shoots well, so I do pocket carry it from time to time when I can't comfortably carry on my hip or appendix.
That is very cool.
I'd buy a newer gun in the same config. Don't carry your great-grandfather's pistol around. If you ever had to use it in some "freak" SD situation , it would be confiscated and you might not ever get it back. Not worth the risk of losing it over some fool trying to rob/hurt you , such fool is not worth family history/heirloom.
In the dirty South where it is hot AF and humid, these little gems hide in your shorts everywhere you go. Good luck with that and a full sized rig. Those stay in the truck, you just need to break engagement and this works fine. Great video Paul, as usual.
Another difference--.22 small pistols are blowback, while .25 are positive extraction. That means if a .22 fails to cycle, you can't get the casing out by racking the slide. You have to hold back the slide and use a fingernail to get the shell out.
A .25 can (usually) be cleared by racking the slide. In a defense situation, that is a major difference. Also, I think the nice .32 compact pistols were another factor in replacing the .25.
You're right in the 380acp replaced 32acp and the 25acp and pretty much all pocket pistols .nowadays you're seeing these small single stack 9 mm 40s close to size as the 380s but not exact, .. but the 380 and 38 snub r my favorite for concealment. And if you can't stop an attacker with five to seven shots with any caliber let alone .38/.380 then u need some more practice
Except if it's a Beretta. .22-.32 (tip-up barrel semiautos)
i just rack it, rack it again and it extracts the .22 shell. just let the bolt slide home again then rack.
Which suggests that if carrying a .22 then a small revolver is the ticket.
@@alexgottmituns7049 Those are some of the best pistols ever made.
I use a .32 acp as every day carry (fits right in my pocket) and it made me feel good to hear someone like you say they carry a .25 around most of the time. I'd like to see more videos about mouse guns. Keep up the good work.
Best 25acp test I've seen thanks.
Nice job; I always thought the 22 was more powerful by far, but I can see from your video it is pretty much the equal of the 25. Thanks!
I was just recommended to this and although 480P is bad even all these years ago what great videos. You will be missed.
Hey one thing I came across not mentioned . Mag dumping two beretta 950 one in .22short one in .25acp . You wouldn’t think but that little A.C.P. Really cycles a lot faster! It made me appreciate the design of auto cases vs. rim for revolvers! .22 short are probably the oldest self contained ammo still made!
I think that if I am using a revolver, the .22 is the best choice. The .22 is a very deadly round. In an auto loader the only choice is the .25.
@Rev Marcell: the Beretta Bobcat has double strike capability. Have the 21a & 32acp Tomcat. Very nice arms for me. Fires quality ammo (Federal Auto-match, CCI mini mag on 22lr and Geco 7.65 on the Tomcat) VERY reliably
Ants: Praise be unto our Lord Harrell for this bounty of soda! \o/
lmao
They've built a statue in his honor
@J N Morgan voting for PPC in the next election is suicide if you're a gun owner. Don't split the vote until we get the ban undone. Erin O'Toole of CPC is def not a centrist and I recommend you check him out. However, vote as you will but if gun ownership is very high on your priority then you'll at least check him out. If you haven't already joined the CCFR, I would highly recommend that as they are fighting the ban in court and please donate to their legal campaign!
@J N Morgan Otoole on the CCFR channel said he would repeal the firearms act in its entirety and replace it with something more friendly to gun owners. Otoole is also against mass immigration from what I know of him. I like Mad Max but I think he would have better chances if he were in the CPC still but I think he is done with them after his leadership run.
@J N Morgan well... the biggest ant colonies can build anthills spreading over 1 squared km. Who knows how big could be a statue if they'd put any effort into it :))
Great video. I almost sold my .25 ACP Beretta thinking I had outgrown it. I'll keep it. Thanks
+Tunde Akinyele knowing you have a gentleman's pistol in your inside breast pocket
to slow the roll on any skulldugry makes me fell better so i hope you carry at the office to ,i secret carry a bauer 25 for 4 years at the office and i know others are to.
freerange that 25 on your person.
The boring part of Paul's videos are some of the best parts of all his episodes, which speaks volumes upon volumes of his insight, because his demonstrations are what I would call professional.
I would like to see 25 acp make a come back. NAA made a 25 cartridge that was really neat for a pocket pistol but thats about the only improvement of that little guy. I think 25acp is probably a better choice than 22lr for a self defense pistol mostly because of the reliability factor however the poor choice of guns chambered in 25 and some of them being quite antiquated makes me question that reliability factor hence the need for 25 acp to make a come back so we have new guns chambered in it. I can say this 22lr zips pretty fast and has a tendency to do nasty wounds with the bullet tumbling going different directions and splitting apart were as 25 and 32 acp usually just goes in the target straight and narrow.
I NEVER get tired of re watching this man's videos.
I love .22 rifles but for pocket guns I'm on team .25 ACP.
i agree, the .22 semi autos I've seen jam up often and .22 ammo is very dirty....
6:13 Good to know if I'm having a bad day Paul can shoot a smile onto my face lol
40 years ago, when firing a .25 RN during a robbery attempt, across the counter in a Pizza Inn restaurant, its performance was excellent. one shot did the job.
Great info for first time gun owners looking into getting a 22lr pistol for a self defense gun. Yes ammo is smaller but in CA ammo is very difficult to get. A box of 22 is available and cheap.
Mr. Harrell, your talks are not boring at all!! I enjoy watching you shoot and listening to your very instructive talks. I have subscribed and look forward to watching all your other videos, past and future; and I will definitely recommend your channel to my friends. Keep up the good work!
Stan Liao .
I have a Beretta 950B and a 21 in .25. It is a fun caliber to shoot. I have found that pistols in general are picky about .22 ammo, there is a huge variation in quality and loading with .22, not so much with .25
The sound of freedom at 12:38 :)
It's a hawk, not a bald eagle.
I really like the “boring parts” where he talks the best
I like the 8 round Ruger .22 LCR (a revolver). Reliable revolver action, 8 round cylinder, lightweight, fits the hand. The reason that 22 ammo is sometimes hard to find is that EVERYONE is hording a ton of it. So buy a couple of bricks or in an apocalyptic meltdown ammo dearth make sure you have friends; they'll have 22 ammo. You won't find many folks with 25 acp but everyone will have some 22!
Very well made video. and as you know a small gun is better than no gun.
BULLET PLACEMENT
First rule in a gun fight. “Have a gun.”
Nice job, Paul. I too am a military guy and now a firearms instructor. Having just discovered the small calibers as viable self-defense options (no double entendre intended), I would appreciate a video on my latest fascination, the .32 ACP. Thanks for all the great videos!
Thank you Sir, for this video.
before my grandfather passed he gave me his 1908 25 ACP. I am happy to say I have it but always wondered the type of questions that you managed to answer in your video. I will look out for the Speer gold dot ammo.
One of the most favorite things I like about your channel is that I watch some of your videos many times.
Though I enjoy Mr. Harrell's channel a lot, I believe he missed the two most significant factors in the comparison: 1. reliable functioning, and 2. penetration. First, the .25 acp pocket pistols are a world apart from the .22 rimfire because the .25 cycles and ignites the primer much more reliably than any .22 rimfire pocket pistol. The .25 projectile is of a smooth copper jacket offering minimal friction when chambering whereas the rimfire utilizes a dry, sticky lubricant that both creates lots of friction along accumulation of the lubricant at the mouth of the chamber. Couple this with the minimal mass of the slide coupled with a relatively weak slide spring leading to .22 rimfire pocket pistols that suffer significant failure rates to reliably cycle their ammunition. Also, the .25 acp's center fire primer fires more reliably than a rimfire primer. This is because the rimfire pocket pistols feature weak hammer springs that frequently fail to deliver an adequate dent to the rim of the cartridge case; conversely, the .25 acp primer was purpose built for the application.
Second, the .25 acp delivers superior penetration than the .22 rimfire from pocket pistols. Both caliber configurations generate similar muzzle velocities, but the .25 enjoys a 20% weight advantage for greater momentum. The .25 with a copper jacket compared to the raw lead of the rimfire means the .25 is less likely to deform during penetration. This is significant since the 60 - 70 ft. lbs of energy available is quite marginal at best for reliable penetration. Any projectile expansion will only reduce that marginal penetration.
For these reasons, the .25 acp pocket pistol is a better choice than the .22 rimfire; neither being a good first choice of course.
I just finished watching all this guys videos.... This guy paul is a crazy dude that has a lot of important information. I really hope that he makes more informative videos.
He also has the personality and ability to talk on camera that a lot of these way bigger channels have. In summation: Paul gets a 10/10!
Jeffrey Carpenter Thanks for the vote of confidence. I'll have more vids soon.
This was the first Paul Harrell video I saw, and his calm demeanor seemed odd to me. Paul’s reasoning and presentation skills were much different than any other presenter I had seen. A couple years later, and Paul is my go to guy, and I’m a proud Patreon supporter of his channel.
The man that dispels all gun myths 👍😊
Yeah I've been watching and listening
to Paul at least this long Thanks a bunch
Paul. Thanks for this demo. It really opened my eyes and caused me to re-evaluate my opinion of the 25 ACP.
Basically the 25 ACP was the superior cartridge because more reliable and easier to load with traiditional magazines, but was killed due to politics. Always the same story
I have a Phoenix Arms .25 acp, and for a cheap gun...it is very accurate, and reliable...never had any issues.
I have the Beretta 21 & 21A, each costing between $250 and $400 depending on what kind of deal you can swing, but $350-$400 is kind of the going rate, now. The 21A prefers .22LR CCI Stingers, but the .25ACP is not picky at all, when it comes to ammo. The 3032 is just slightly larger, shoots the .32ACP, stings a little bit, between your thumb and index finger, but it is a great little tiny pocket gun that is less picky than the expensive elitist Seecamp. I like the Seecamp, but I chose the 3032 over the shiny nickel Seecamp.
Raven, Jennings, Phoenix, Galesi, were the budget ribstickers of my youth. A baby Browning was $300! The Saturday night specials were under $100, and they worked most of the time.
CV Tech me to
My Raven P25 auto out-performed my friends ^Colt^ 25... and we swapped guns twice. His jammed twice and the Raven actually seemed more accurate. Since we were plinking at cans, not regulation targets, this assessment might not actually be accurate. But I'll keep my old nickle-plated Raven, thank you.
I've got a Phoenix Arms .22 lr.
I inherited a Titan .25 by FIE from my grandfather. At 20 ft, this lil guy is really good. I use Winchester 50 gr Silvertips. My lil 22 LR seems more accurate at longer distances than that. I will agree that when I 1st tried to find modern ammo for the 25, it was limited to FMG, round nose military style, or 35 gr hollow points. Now I can get several different types fairly easily. I like my 25. It's loud and rude, pretty accurate close range, and is so tiny, I can put it in my pocket and it looks like a set of keys (bulge) . I don't think it could hit the broad side of a barn when shooting across a street, but up close and personal, it's lethal.
Very well put together video with excellent points. Thank you ! I am so sick of hearing keyboard warriors with little real world experience run down the 25 APC. I carry a 1908 in a Blackhawk pocket holster daily, and with the right ammunition, feel just fine about it. Love your work, have subscribed. Keep em coming !
Thanks. Filming more tomorrow.
Honestly, the "boring part of the video" where you talk, is probably the most interesting and educational part.
Paul.....you are such a nice , patient man. You take the time to explain in terms a wide audience can understand. I really like your videos. (I also hope I never make you upset. You are a great shot!!)
Extremely educational and well done video and possibly the best and most logical 25acp -22lr comparison out there
8:11 camera person gets orange soda'd and you here them sigh. Like I hate you Paul.... LOL
He needs hazard pay... :-)
He is the camera guy - pay attention.
Can you imagine being the guy(s) who rent the pit shortly after Paul?
"Why are there ants every!?"
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He was using their guns. they just came to get them back.
@@BradleyStegall huh? What?
@@Hawk1966 Tiny guns for tiny ants was his implication I believe.
@@johnnybarbar7435 my comment was simply about all the sugar from the soda jugs and oranges or grapefruits plus the bits of meat scattered about after a Paul Harrell video shoot. This must certainly draw ants as well as bees and other bugs.
Hawk- lmao 🤣.......no kidding!
I have a lot of faith in my little Colt .22LR body pistol, it's cool to see an expert validate my very non-expert opinion. Sure it's only a .22, but all these rounds are going right where it hurts because this thing is a tack driver. Thank you Paul!
I have a 21A that my wife liked to carry when arriving and leaving work in downtown Santa Ana, CA.
It and the ammunition that I fed it, has worked every time.
I just inherited my grandfather's Beretta 950 B from the late 60's that's chambered in 25acp. It's in fantastic condition so I may buy a box of quality ammo and try it out
I know this is an older video, but I would add another advantage to the .25 acp and that is the ability to handload for it. Because it is a centerfire, you can roll your own, making the ammo much more affordable.
paul = rockstar of firearms knowledge!
This is a cool throwback Paul video. Don't care about older school non- "HD" audio / video! Thanks!!
What a great presentation. I happened to watch it because my older brother is bringing his mint .25ACP Beretta Jetfire down to shoot next month - he bought it new in 1968 before the new law Paul referenced went into effect, and has rarely fired it. Can't wait to try it. While I think there is little doubt that - for most people - .22lr is going to be a more practical choice, this does a great job clearing up a lot of misconceptions out there when these two calibers are compared.