Writers And Producers To Have First Strike Negotiations In 3 Months

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Komentáře • 81

  • @IamLegendaryguy1998
    @IamLegendaryguy1998 Před rokem +14

    Support actors and writers

  • @linkjourney422
    @linkjourney422 Před rokem +13

    The problem with the residuals argument is that these streaming studios like Netflix, Disney, Warner Bros, ect…. Is that they refuse to show there viewership numbers to the actors, writers, and directors. If they did that than the unions and the AMPTP could have an open and honest dialogue on what reasonable residuals compensation would look like.

  • @SecondTake123
    @SecondTake123 Před rokem +7

    John, you're forgetting about customer loyalty and retention!
    You can cancel any month if you don't think there is a show you want to watch and just resubscribe 3 or 4 months from now when your favorite show is back.

  • @jackson857
    @jackson857 Před rokem +11

    I suggest John watches or listens to the Pod Save America episode where they had Adam Conover on because he doesn't seem to understand how residuals can work with streaming.

  • @janechoy2073
    @janechoy2073 Před rokem +11

    It's more like the WGA strikes have been going on for 3 months and the AMPTP has been unwilling to negotiate in good faith with the WGA until now.

    • @Dave102693
      @Dave102693 Před rokem +3

      @@CarlOake why are you bootlicking for?

    • @jayhartRIC
      @jayhartRIC Před rokem +2

      The amptp hasn’t been at the negotiating table till now

  • @plasmaticnoises3523
    @plasmaticnoises3523 Před rokem +9

    that is the streamer's problem, pay the writers

  • @yosefvargasx
    @yosefvargasx Před rokem +6

    Lmao 3 months. Unreal.

  • @danielstark8356
    @danielstark8356 Před rokem +7

    I think that it's inevitable that streaming will eventually become universally ad based. It's the only way actors/writers get their residuals while also making streaking services profitable (especially when it comes to old shows)

    • @blackalien6873
      @blackalien6873 Před rokem +2

      Yeah, I think ads are gonna make a comeback. That's what made the whole think profitable. Radio was first ads with a little entertainment in between. Ads are a core component to profitability.

  • @ameliacraiig4193
    @ameliacraiig4193 Před rokem +10

    Why doesn't John talk as in-depth as he is now about his doubts regarding residuals when Kris is in the room? I'd like to hear her response to his argument.

  • @craigburkey269
    @craigburkey269 Před rokem +3

    Also Music Streamers like Spotify, Amazon Music, Tidal already have a royalty based remuneration though the rates they pay is up for debate.

  • @jaybling6687
    @jaybling6687 Před rokem +3

    When you say that a streamer like Netflix makes more money off of subscribers *not* watching content, that very much sounds akin AMC A-List. That service makes money because people subscribe to it but then don't make use of it like gym memberships.

  • @TwinRiver100
    @TwinRiver100 Před rokem +2

    I'd be curious as far as what other residual models could be considered to help writers in-between shows if the view based one has some issues that might not work as well.

  • @johngrayson9218
    @johngrayson9218 Před rokem +2

    The compromise that I could see happening as far as residuals go is to put a cap on the residual-collection period. Streamers pay residuals within a certain window (maybe 6 months after the last episode releases).

    • @jaybling6687
      @jaybling6687 Před rokem +2

      A cap on a collection period is problematic because the studios don’t pay on time.

  • @DesignGeek06
    @DesignGeek06 Před rokem +3

    What about setting aside a fixed percentage of the monthly fee to go towards a viewer based residual model, where the shows are awarded a slice of that percentage based on how many views they generated compared to the total views of all shows on the platform?
    That way the streamers have a fixed expense out of a fixed income (so they don’t get into debt by having a fluctuating expense with a fixed income) and artists get more money out of the available pie if their show is bringing more people to the platform, regardless of if the show is new or old.

    • @jayhartRIC
      @jayhartRIC Před rokem

      That was my suggestion as well

  • @MaguffinMan
    @MaguffinMan Před rokem +9

    Netflix also just doesn't need to pay Dave Chapelle $20mil per special. They're horrible at budgeting money

    • @MasonDixie
      @MasonDixie Před rokem +4

      132 million people watched Chappelle’s specials in 30 days 🤣 I think they got their money’s worth lol

    • @MaguffinMan
      @MaguffinMan Před rokem +1

      @MasonDixieLloydMusa My point being, does Dave need $20mil for a 1 hour special? Is $10mil enough? That many people tuning in for 1 hour of content doesn't do much for the longevity of Netflix's profit. Pay Dave less, spend more on good creators to make quality content that people will return for.

    • @MasonDixie
      @MasonDixie Před rokem +2

      @@MaguffinMan the demand for his product WARRANTS his compensation. It’s called supply and demand lol tithe problem is not with Dave getting paid what he’s worth bro. It’s with studios shortchanging everyone other than stars because they can. The last thing we need it’s artists fighting amongst other artists. You’re doing EXACTLY what they want you to do lol it’s like when people complain about susperstar athletes getting paid so much. Ummm, they generate the money by selling out games, getting their jerseys and shoes bought, and having great TV ratings when they play.
      The problem is with the corporations lying about profits to justify shortchanging people who typically don’t have much power to fight it. Get your priorities right

    • @MaguffinMan
      @MaguffinMan Před rokem +1

      @MasonDixieLloydMusa I was just using Dave as an example for their spending $$ on short term content I won't return for.
      I use to look forward to so many shows they produced and now I don't care. Then they raise their prices and produce reality shows

  • @bobbyvee9950
    @bobbyvee9950 Před rokem +6

    I hope this is meaningful and not a PR stunt.

  • @jayhartRIC
    @jayhartRIC Před rokem +2

    They can just do a model similar to sports leagues. The studios keep a certain percentage of revenue and the rest gets split up among the shows by viewership with the top shows getter higher percentages. From there the residuals get paid to the actors,writers, etc based on the individual contracts.

  • @BasedOnTheTrailer
    @BasedOnTheTrailer Před rokem +2

    Streaming services after the Shows main release, should either license out the show OR just put ads on old content and that way they can pay a % based on initial popularity and then also pay ad residuals

    • @waydephilpot3749
      @waydephilpot3749 Před rokem

      Running ads is an interesting idea, bc you're adding monetization. The big issue becomes viewership. On TV, commercials run regardless of who or how many are watching content. With streaming, ads play when content is viewed.

    • @stanfordite1
      @stanfordite1 Před rokem

      Streaming needs to and will be outlawed by the government. Nobody will miss it. I have never streamed a thing and never will.

    • @BasedOnTheTrailer
      @BasedOnTheTrailer Před rokem +1

      @@stanfordite1 ok, but there are still millions that do use it, this is like saying "i dont want cds my cassette tapes are better"

  • @DanielMartinez-yb2vb
    @DanielMartinez-yb2vb Před rokem +4

    They should just get a cut of ad revenue instead of residuals

    • @Gamechanger100vibe
      @Gamechanger100vibe Před rokem

      Way more ppl have subscriptions without ads

    • @DanielMartinez-yb2vb
      @DanielMartinez-yb2vb Před rokem

      @@Gamechanger100vibe they are just starting to be rolled out. While linear media keeps trending down, it will give the opportunity for ad supported to grow in share along with overall price increases in premium non-ad

  • @Mariofanaticanimations
    @Mariofanaticanimations Před rokem +5

    So will ai be banned permanently?

    • @bearzerger
      @bearzerger Před rokem +2

      nah, that genie is out of the bag. The question is how it'll be used. As long as it's used as a tool in the hands of the writers to help them with their work I think it's beneficial. What should be banned is producers using it as a tool to replace writers and reduce human writers to glorified proofreaders.

    • @stanfordite1
      @stanfordite1 Před rokem +1

      Yes. Yes it will. Anyone who uses AI will be going to jail.

  • @beaver6d9
    @beaver6d9 Před rokem +6

    Solidarity to the WGA and SAG-AFTRA! Labor is entitled to all it creates.

  • @fearlesshawk92
    @fearlesshawk92 Před rokem

    Without a rule like the residuals, idk how you motivate a writing team to want to have the next hit show. There has to be something to give a team motivation.

  • @shdox_
    @shdox_ Před rokem +1

    Talking it out is the first step. Even if it takes the whole rest of the year, at least they are starting to fix this.

  • @buzzardscry1383
    @buzzardscry1383 Před rokem +1

    Meanwhile, they won't allow two extra grips on heavy days. Production shits, and we physically doing shit

  • @JaFleuTheArtist
    @JaFleuTheArtist Před rokem +2

    The Rock saved Hollywood by sitting off these donations. Can't starve out folk that keep getting million dollar donations 😂

  • @KungEMuller
    @KungEMuller Před rokem

    Wow! This could be interesting. I don't know if everything will lead to the end of the writers' strike and the actors' strike yet, but we'll have to wait and see at this point.

  • @hawhite2000
    @hawhite2000 Před rokem

    The ad model doesn't need to change. Residuals should be based on the portion of that subscription fee and the ad fee they are getting for each showing. You can't build something that doesn't take these things into consideration first and then say well I did it now so you have to live with being short changed.

  • @Mieknara
    @Mieknara Před rokem +5

    What if a writer uses Grammerly's ai tech to improve their writing? Are the writers prevented from using AI?

    • @hemangkorane1797
      @hemangkorane1797 Před rokem +3

      but still it would refine the grammatical errors in their draft if the writer care about it, still what he wrote will be his own

  • @Sehlat
    @Sehlat Před rokem

    It's about time!

  • @johngrayson9218
    @johngrayson9218 Před rokem +5

    There’s a reason why negotiations stopped for three months. The AMPTP had a negotiating period for the writers, and they couldn’t get it figured out. And then the AMPTP had to prep for negotiations with the directors guild. Then they had to prepare to negotiate with the actors. It’s not that the AMPTP has been refusing to meet with the WGA, it’s just that they’ve been busy negotiating with two other unions.

  • @jccarty1477
    @jccarty1477 Před rokem +1

    Why not just have ads at the end?

    • @Ahturos
      @Ahturos Před rokem +1

      Becuse then you will just end when finishes, when he got it in the middle you will have to reach and skip, sure might just ad 2-4 seconds of view time on his video but that will ad up with 10 000 people.

  • @AngryGoats555
    @AngryGoats555 Před rokem +1

    Yes, new, green writers should make less. Why the hell should they make as much as those who have put in the work refining their craft to earn places on huge, significant tent pole series?? They need to cut their teeth on smaller projects and grow their portfolio and get better at writing before trying their hand a big series

  • @MrCtmcclain
    @MrCtmcclain Před rokem

    With streaming being trick with viewership based residuals. Perhaps maybe it should just be some kind of an upfront payment, just for when a show is picked up, and if it's picked up for additional seasons on a streaming service. I do still believe in paying the writers. And I know this sounds greedy, but maybe throw in a special bonus if the show is a hit on the streaming service.

    • @MrCtmcclain
      @MrCtmcclain Před rokem

      ...and sorry for the typo on "with streaming being TRICKY with viewership based residuals"...my bad.

  • @tenfootgoatman2285
    @tenfootgoatman2285 Před rokem +2

    I am quite happy for the studios to wait it out even if it takes 18 months because some of the strikers demands are unreasonable . There is plenty of non American content being produced that is often far superior and there are loads of old shows that I have never watched that I could spend the next year and half watching . This would be a good time for the entertainment industry to purge itself of all the activist troublemakers .

  • @kidcore3
    @kidcore3 Před rokem +1

    My question is,WHY haven't they been talking in 3 months? I thought they were talking every day so why weren't they talking?

    • @_SYDGAMING_
      @_SYDGAMING_ Před rokem +3

      Because the big companies wanted them to fold when they couldn't pay for the houses. The only reason there talking now is because of the rock giving money to fight longer

    • @tenfootgoatman2285
      @tenfootgoatman2285 Před rokem +1

      @@_SYDGAMING_ And even with the Rocks money it wont buy them much time . The studios have the upper hand in all this . Especially those ones like Netflix who actively produce non American content .

    • @_SYDGAMING_
      @_SYDGAMING_ Před rokem

      @@tenfootgoatman2285 yeah but hopefully now that the rock donated. Hopefully other big time actors will contribute.

  • @kobaltics
    @kobaltics Před rokem

    Either way we’re going to be paying even more for these streaming services. How quickly and how sharply those prices increase may, imo, depend on a potential new residuals deal for streaming services.

  • @yeungscs
    @yeungscs Před rokem +2

    Imagine if the DGA had kept striking for the trifecta of unions striking

  • @loganalbert1647
    @loganalbert1647 Před rokem

    I guess the wait till the writers are broke plan has been thrown out the window.

  • @williamdistefano5698
    @williamdistefano5698 Před rokem

    Force Majure 4tw ?

  • @byronkennedy7203
    @byronkennedy7203 Před rokem +2

    More people doesnt necessarily mean more talent

  • @MyCryptoGateway
    @MyCryptoGateway Před rokem +4

    1) Writers Room (minimum 6 writers, max 12)
    A company should be able to choose the correct level of writers they need for a show (and pay accordingly), but forcing them to have bodies in a room just to meet a quto seems crazy, one of the biggest problem with current show making is budgets blowing out. companies should not agree to this.
    2) Mini writers room
    again similar to 1, there should be flexibility here, another thing companies should not agree to.
    3) AI Restrictions
    AI is here, this is saying we can now use a computer for graphic design, but all the people currently doing graphic design prefer doing it by hand even if it is slower. So we should handicap the company cause they will be able to do things faster and we get payed more if it takes longer. This is something that studio should not agree on at all.
    4) Viewership based Residuals
    The only sale is when the streamer buys the show to put it on the network, it actually costs them ever time some one watches it (bandwidth cost). Residuals just does not work any more
    Based on this I do not see anything that the writers want that companies should agree with

    • @jaybling6687
      @jaybling6687 Před rokem +8

      Your AI opinion is ridiculous because that approach prioritizes speed and efficiency at the expense of quality.
      When it comes to the number of writers on shows, I think it should be at the discretion of the show runner. If show runners can write all the episodes by themselves, all the power to them. If a show runner wants the maximum number of writers the WGA is proposing, I think that should be allowed as well.

    • @buzzardscry1383
      @buzzardscry1383 Před rokem +2

      Guess we ain't going back to work

    • @Dave102693
      @Dave102693 Před rokem

      @@jaybling6687 Exactly 100%

    • @MyCryptoGateway
      @MyCryptoGateway Před rokem

      @@jaybling6687 I look at as a tool like a calculator, I might be able to do a calculation by hand or I can use a tool (calculator) get get results quicker and easier. You still need good people to use it, you need good people to determine the output is any good and if it is not how it could be improved. It is just a tool, you still need good/quality people to use it. I just dislike ban it just to make things worse so the employee can make more money.

  • @TerrellAustin19941
    @TerrellAustin19941 Před rokem +2

    😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮

  • @cooiolhh8955
    @cooiolhh8955 Před rokem +3

    Hopefully to get rid off these writers and replace with al. Its not like they care about us ppl that al robots are replacing us. As soon its about them omg. Let's worry about our self and not the ppl who don't even care.