Q&A | #36 - Invest in a Quality Fly Line, Packaged Leaders and Changing Spots!
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- čas přidán 4. 03. 2020
- In this Questions and Answers, Brian Flechsig at Mad River Outfitters discusses whether or not a fly fishing angler should invest in a quality fly line, if he uses packaged leaders and how often you should change spots when you're fishing.
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$300 for line would have me sleeping in the yard with the dog
Yes but no worries. No such thing in the real world. Not yet at least.
Haha yeah same here lol.
How? Is your wife some kind of martial artist or something lol.
No one says you have to say anything to her. :) FWIW: My wife would be happy for me and then go spend $400 on a new purse. Though I should not joke, for my birthday I told her I did not need anything and she said, why don't you go buy a new fly rod. So I did. I love my wife.
Phoenix maybe. More or less the continuation of the old kingfisher lines. They’re €200 for a dt, more for a wf… But you’d need to be in a tiny niche to get something out of a purchase like that. I fish both silk and plastic and they both have their place.
The most interesting flyfisherman in the world
Mad Vet Woodworking He is not....it was just a chance to drink at work.
Stay Thirsty.
I love this quote!! "If you're not catching fish, change SOMETHING"
It's a mantra!
That leader/tippet segment was very informative, at least to me. Thanks!
Thanks for watching!
As always, most informative! 🤝
ChattaYakFish Thanks for being here!
Thank you Brian for answering my question and for explaining tippets for me.
It’s much appreciated and very helpful!!
Thank you again. God Bless 🙏
Thanks for being a part of our world.
Nice video Brian 👍🎣, full of top tips and information 😉😉
Andy K Johnson Johnson Thanks for watching.
Great advice Brian, love these Q&A sessions.
Thanks for being here.
Thanks for telling me plenty of room for a semi I’ll be sure to plan a trip up there myself
Epic video :) Great info!
Thanks for being here.
Again, your video is quite instructive. I'm learning all the time by watching your videos. I will eagerly wait for the next fishing season in the spring of 2021.
Thanks for being here and please stay tuned.
Nice picture of Brian in the background with a huge butter!!! Epic!
Of course! It’s all about the butter.
As a beginner and watching your videos daily I am always learning something new. Thanks Brian! 👍✌️
Thanks for being here and please stay tuned.
Planning on getting back into fly fishing after giving it up 4 years ago. Found your You Tube channel and am loving the amazing informative content. This Q&A covered several of the questions I had. Thank you.
Thanks for being here. Please stay tuned.
Gold Thank you from Hobart , Tasmania :-)
Tim Austin Thanks for being here.
Awesome videos! Thank you
Thanks for watching.
Always good advice! I find attaching a tippet ring to the end of a tapered leader is a great way to provide for flexibility when it comes to renewing or changing the length and/or diameter of the tippet.
Thanks for being here.
Now that break to the commercial for Maxima was freaking funny!
Thanks for watching!!!!
Now I get it. Thank you.✌️
Thanks for being here.
Love the whiteboard camera!
Hillbilly Sportsman Thanks for watching.
Lots of good info for us rookies.
Thanks for watching.
Just asked a question
Hopefully you guys can answer it in the next Q&A
Beginner like me love you guys’ content. Nothing else on CZcams is as good at teaching fly fishing
Thanks for watching and thanks for being here. Stay tuned.
Great video, just purchased another line, we'll see how it goes
Ronald Fisher Thanks for watching and thanks for the support.
Changing my underwear has always been the key to my success! Also, I switched the line that came with my kit to the Frequency and it was a night and day difference.
Truly one of the secrets to life....and success. Thanks for watching.
Love Arkansas Traveler on the fiddle in the background.
Thanks for watching!
Awesome 👏
Thanks for watching.
Thanks for this - finally motivated me to upgrade my line. Went with the SA Bass Bug, hoping it will serve me well down here in Louisiana. :)
We appreciate you watching and thanks for the support. You'll love that line.
@@Madriveroutfitters Was glad to have a good opportunity to throw some business your way. Didn't realize until today that you guys are just "up the street" from where I grew up. Granted, the street is I-71 and "just" is about 100 miles... born and raised in cincinnati.
Brian, thank you. I cannot even put into words how helpful your information has been in guiding me these last few days. This last week, I discovered that Arkansas Game & Fish stocks trout in lakes nearby my home. I only found this out after pulling out a Rainbow while actively catching Largemouth Bass on fitnesses presentations (I’m a little bit addicted to bass fishing, but we won’t tell my girlfriend that.).... I had never caught a trout in my life prior to that moment.
I have since become addicted to trout fishing, and I have bought a Redington fly combo at my local store. You are absolutely right about the fly line being terrible. I just placed a substantial order through your site for Scientific Angler Frequency line, a lot of flies, and a few accessories.
Thank you for all that you do to make fly fishing accessible to those of us who did not grow up around the sport. You have just gained a life-long customer, and I look forward to visiting Mad River in person if I am ever in Ohio!
Thanks for the kind words and for the support. We greatly appreciate it.
One "average Joe" ;-) sends greetings from Central Europe. Thanks for your videos, they helped me a lot in the beginning of fly fishing. Truly, thank you very much. After today's video I know for "sure" ;-) - if I don't catch fish in 20 minutes, I'll change the place first. If that doesn't help - next is my briefs :-D.
Josef Žďárský Perfect. Thanks for watching.
Thank you from Germany, you helped me a lot with the string, a question about the movement in the river! I learned many years ago that you should always move upstream because of the sediment you stir up when you run!
Thanks for watching and please stay tuned.
Another wonderful video, enjoyed your analogy of the fat kid and skinny kid for leaders.
William Miller Thanks for watching!
As to the change something comment, my dad used to say " If you're not catching fish, you're not holding your mouth right!"
As for fishing one spot too long, I caught my first steelhead pounding a corky and yarn off of the fishes nose for at least 30 minutes. It had to be because I did hold my mouth differently many times...
He was probably right! Thanks for watching.
I just upgraded to SA Mastery line and it makes a world of difference over the cheap stuff.
It does.
Well Done ! 😎👍 I tell folks line 1st. Casting lessons 2nd. But I figure the leader and tippet into the cost of the line.
That said a few casting lessons will give someone some solid technique to work on. I do usually suggest a good entomology book right after that. 🤷🏼♂️ JMHO
Thanks for watching and for the support!
The phone call cut away and the leader cut away were hilarious.
Thanks for watching.
Love the very informative channel. I have a question. Is it ok to use braided line such as 30 pound test with about 150 yards? Good or not good and reasons. Thank you.
Thanks for watching! Please send your questions over to the shop at admin@madriveroutfitters.com and they will be happy to help you there.
I got a nice beginner Cortland set with line and everything, and the leader sucks lol. First time I went out with a friend and his dad, they both recommended to definitely get some new leader and I’ll be in business
Let us know if we can send you some.
he said $300...it was just a line :)
thanks for another great video!
Porter Rhoton Thanks for watching.
12:25 hahahahahahahah man I burst to tears
Hopefully of joy?
My brother and I differ when it comes to how often we change spots. He is SO THOROUGH, I would lose my mind…if I’m on a pattern that I know the fish are into, I’ll cast to a spot maybe twice before moving along, bang bang bang. Who’s right and who’s wrong, really? We both took hundreds of trout last season so it’s a matter of your own personal style and what your psyche will allow. Establishing a pattern that the fish are hitting is the most important thing…and it’s always beneficial to be a fly tier. Just today I had a bunch of rainbows swinging half heartedly at a muddler pattern. I swapped over to this CDC muddler thing I developed over the winter and blammo…that was the necessary shift. At that point, I can start my typical high speed working of spots one right after another. A quick side note…if you fish for brookies, 20 minutes in one spot is a colossal waste of time. Brookies are gonna swing the moment they see something interesting…it’s part of their feeding strategy. If you aren’t getting hit, they aren’t around, your fly is scaring them or you’ve blown your cover in some way or another.
Thanks for watching and thanks for sharing.
I agree the fly line and leader are the most important part of your rig. $300.00 fly line never heard of one that expensive. That being said i have seen 200.00 silk line though
David Veilleux Thanks for watching. He wasn’t talking about a silk line here for sure.
Great video. Where do we send questions?
Thanks for watching. As he says in the video, the only place.....admin@madriveroutfitters.com.
Would you recommend a 5wt boost line if I typically throw dry flies from sz 6-12 about 60-70% of the time with the other 30-40% being wooly buggers and terrestrials?
As stated, please send those questions directly to the shop and they will be happy to help you there. Thanks.
Allso, atleast in spin fishing, if you get a bite, change lures or fly befor presenting to the fish again. Latest example is from yesterday when i went out with dull hooks. The trout bit every lure the first time i presented it, but the second time she saw the same lure, she remembered that it hurt, and she was not intrested in the slightest. This went on for 5-6 diferent lures befor she got spooked and buggered of. And dont be like me, use sharp hooks! :)
True words. Thanks for sharing.
I understand the fat to thin rule if the leader material is consistent. My question, does stiffness trump diameter? Would it be wrong to have a 30lb butt section of mono then taper using a stiffer fluorocarbon tippet in the 15-20lb range? The butt should always be the stiffer section?
Thanks for watching. Please send your questions over to Brian at the shop and he'll be happy to help/answer. Call or e-mail.
Your thoughts on the orvis Clearwater fly line that comes with Clearwater outfit?
Please contact the shop directly and they will be happy to help. Thanks.
HI Brian, i didnt hear you mention Cortland fly lines, is there a reason for this? Thanks B...
No, we sell the heck out of Cortland lines, and he uses them alot. Maybe he just forgot?
I have some fly line I will sell for $300.
Jake Derr No thanks and please, this is not E-bay.
I own a Temple Fork Outfitters 1# 6'9" --4 piece fly rod. Can you recommend a fly line to suit? Fish for trout in mountain streams....
Please contact the shop directly and they will be happy to help you there. Thanks.
i agree 100% that the line is important, and that a good line helps, but the only thing more important than a line is technique. i can push a 9 weight air cel line 80 feet on my echo bad ass glass, but im sure a better line could get me up to 100.
Skidin Dingo Yes, that kinda goes without saying. But thanks for saying!
@@Madriveroutfitters i know im captain obvious, but there are people out there who blame their gear long before their own shortcomings. I should also include that im not doing 80 foot casts in to 15 mile an hour winds, but with reasonable conditions and a not-too-heavy fly i can cast farther than i can see a fish
Skidin Dingo 👍✌️
I just got a fly fishing kit and im frustrated. My fly line wont go out far and im just a beginner. Also my leaders break at the tip losing flys like crazy. Im lost here. Do i need to change out the backing too?
Give a shout to the shop and they will be happy to help in any way that they can. Thanks.
$300 fly line is expensive, even a silk line would be about $220 at the high end. I think for beginners (and anyone else) - Wulff lines are great. One to make roll casting easier and I think (given the taper) very forgiving...
Agreed. No need to spend that kind of money on a fly line. Period. Also agree that Wulff lines are GREAT!
Tests are a great teaching tool. It could be fun to have 3 different categories of tests; beginner, intermediate, and advanced. Perhaps better would be; dockers, waders, and boaters? That kind of thing. Have the tests always available and recommend everyone to take a 'before' test. Reiterating the basics at each level. The learning will skyrocket. More interaction and your show are all about interaction and teaching. Just an idea...
Thanks for sharing. Will pass along.
Is Rio mainstream flyline ok or should I spend a little more?
P. DriZzle Sounds like a question for the shop folks. Give them a call or send them an email and they will help there. Thanks.
As always excellent information. Of course it has me wondering. So, l'll send my question on as l seem to be missing something. But great program regardless of my question.
Thanks for watching and feel free to reach out to the shop with your questions.
That fat kid analogy made me laugh pretty hard. Love the videos. Thank you for teaching me how to teach myself to fly fish.
Thanks for watching……and for laughing. Happy to help!
I don't own a single rod or reel I payed over 70 bucks for, but you can bet all my lines are top of the, well, line.
We don't care what your rod is....the line? different story.
im trying to learn how to fish on a fly rod and have been so frustrated im on attempt 6 and been nothing but skunked. 10:35 literally made me go try again.. see ya on the river
Great to hear and happy to inspire! Let us know how it goes.
I've never laughed so hard during one of these videos until the fat kid/skinny kid analogy in reference to tippet.
Thanks for watching.
My buddy left his fly line out in the sun and it all cracked. It was also rio gold fly line is that normal?
Please contact the shop directly via phone or e-mail and they will be happy to help/answer. Thanks.
I plan on upgrading my fly line soon not sure what comes on the Orvis Clearwater kit
We’ll be happy help!
@@Madriveroutfitters pick me a good line will order this next weekend
@@stanreedy2686 give a call to the shop and they can get you taken care of. Thanks.
@@Madriveroutfitters will do friday just curious do you know what fly line comes on the Clearwater kit
@@stanreedy2686 you’ll have to check with the shop. Don’t have that info here. They will know.
Does the fly line backing really matter to the fly line weight and other things ?
Please contact the shop directly with your questions and they will be happy to help. Thanks.
@@Madriveroutfitters I emailing them right now
Now that was a great excuse for a Dos Equis?
Thanks for watching. We thought so too.
Is it possible that the expensive fly line was a genuine silk line? Isn't a new silk fly line pretty costly?
Sorry but not familiar with silk lines at all.
how long should these fly lines last ?
As stated here, please send those questions over to the shop at admin@madriveroutfitters.com and they will be happy to help there. Thanks,
Depends on storage, usage, care etc. Store your lines in a cool dry space when not in use. If you fish dirty water clean your lines. If you dont use them often stretch them out to get the coils out. Want to kill lines put them in the back window of your car and leave them in the sun
I was lost until he made the skinny/fat kid analogy. Lol
Thanks for watching.
Will give you a phone call re: order from your store...ship Canada. Tks for your good work ongoing. Darhl
Thanks for watching. Call the shop anytime and they are always happy to help.
In the meantime:
www.madriveroutfitters.com/t-shipping.aspx
At 15:53 I ruined my girlfriends blouse with spewed coffee. We watched it like 4 times laughing/crying. That needs to be on a shirt.
T-Shirts and hats are coming. Stay tuned. Sorry about the blouse.
300 dollar flyline? Damn I wanna cast that 😅
niceomat Check with Orvis?
I wish fly fishing wasn’t so unnecessarily expensive
It doesn't have to be. You must be shopping in the wrong places.
Trout are hitting in this cold front seems strange
They gotta eat to survive.
Please leave out the music, I find it distracting. And thanks I have learned much from you.
Thanks for watching. Will pass along to the production team....but pretty sure they like the music!
Does.. anyone else think Theodore Gordon looks like James Franco??
Doesn't seem that way based on responses here.
Start euronymphing, then you don’t have to use the bad flylines, no flylines at all, straight mono 🤣
Erik Karlsson No. We are American and fish for bass, carp, pike, musky, bonefish, tarpon, redfish, peacock bass, smallmouth, walleye, panfish, permit, catfish......etc. Try that with your beloved mono. 😏
If you think the 300$ fly line is good you oughta try the 400$ stuff 😂
No thanks. We're good.
change my underwear....how often?
That is entirely up to you.
lol, change underwear. Fish dont like stanky anglers? lol
They do typically have a good sense of smell.
what is the deferens from a W F line to a DT line and can I use a D T for streamer and nymph like your videos a lot of good information im just starting my setup to start fly fishing thank you
Sal Ordonia Please send your questions to the shop at admin@madriveroutfitters.com and they will be happy to help. Thanks.