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The Difference Between Radical Feminism and Patriarchy
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- čas přidán 19. 08. 2024
- What is radical feminism? What is patriarchy? How are they different? Find out in our video.
This video was created by Chris Ross.
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Er, this is very confused. Radical feminism starts from the point that patriarchy exists (and it is in all aspects of life, not just government). Radical feminism is the movement against patriarchy.
Radical feminism ALSO aims for equality between women and men, but said equality CANNOT be achieved if we don’t DISMANTLE the patriarchy first. Liberal feminism doesn’t aim to do that. Therefore liberal feminism or, as you mentioned, the middle ground, is still patriarchy.
Nah feminists are just men haters. Its why I don't support it
the patriarchy is in the west a result of a set of stereotypes (not laws). the present stereotypes and unconscious biases will disappear over time (decades maybe centuries). Equality destroys the patriarchy not the other way around. trying to consciously destroy unconscious bias is impossible and if you decide to shame people for having those biases than you should start by shaming urself because any expert can tell u that everybody is bias. But u can make people aware of biases and that's what regular feminism and all branches of feminism except rads .
While Liberal feminists have weird opinions on sex work and trans women, they at least don't detest men like the way radfems do.
@@nanochad2979 Yup I just found a tweet yesterday from a radical feminist which got 30+ likes saying baby boys should be aborted. I can link it if someone doesn't believe me
no they dont
There is a gross misunderstanding in this video. Radical feminisim's ultimate goal is equality. It aims to restructure the patriarcal world to achieve just that. This doesn't change whether you are pro or anti feminist, it is the actual stated goal whether you agree with it or not. So to say that equality is a middleground is a total misrepresentation of what patriarchy and radical feminism are.
No, radical feminism ultimate goal is to destroy the culture. There is no such thing as true equality. There will be people with different skills and abilities and each earns and advances according to their merit and effort. The problem is in a competitive class system, women do not do as well as men in general. What you are seeing is not a radical releveling of the playing field but an attempt to crippled and disadvantage the men so women can dominate. Its the reason why the current manifestation of feminism is basically misandry. Its the only way for women to feel equal is if men are brought down beneath them. Look at all of the misandrist laws out now that only target men. Look at title ix. Look all of the mess in regards to gender dynamics and interactions.
I think the problem is most women that believe in this mess dont realize the real heads of the ideology itself want dominance over men. That is it. Look at all of the little cultural battles that have taken over the mainstream culture currently. government funded tampons. Sexist A/C. mansplaining, manspreading, toxic masculinity, the male gaze, the glass ceiling or the glass cliff, etc. All of these are contrivances of a class of people who dont want to admit that their end goal was already reached and now what they really want is power over men and not just power. But in the wake of all that is the lack of understand that you are wielding power to the point of messing up basic gender dynamics due to your own gender based psychological quirks. Because of your biological make up and emotional state, you are the more likely to abuse power and see threats in regards to more instances of neuroticism. Look at the state of the children in the culture. Look at the safe space culture. Look at all the rampant degenerate ideological ideas floating around now dominating and polluting the culture right now. We are literally in a cultural decline because the worst parts of female psychology and animus are destroying everything and the men have given sway to it. Yes, in some aspects of the past, men were brutal and they held power but that was because the RISK and Responsibilities that fell on us WERE greater than yours in regards to the protect and survival of the tribe. Its really that simple. So you dont want to accept that, cool thats fine. But in your attempt to restructure society, you want to control everything and you want all the authority without any of the cost or responsibility associated with that. That is where true corruption and evil steps in.
Thanks, jbcrafty 💜
1) I'm straight,
2) You're an awful violent misogynist (and lesbophobe, 'cause even if I'm not a lesbian you've treated me as one in your sh*tty way) who wishes me death... You sound like incel, not me, and your hatred towards free women makes you unworthy to talk 'bout equality and seem serious.
Bye, loser.
'bout the screenshot you linked, as a straight woman who isn't slighlty ashamed of her sex*ality I'm plenty against that senseless b*llsh*t (no, those who believe like that totally cannot control me, I'm sure)... The writes seems a lesbian feminist or even more a sort of gynarchist, instead of a radical feminist ('cause radical feminism don't substain that stuff 'bout female sexuality, I know that 'cause I'm studing it, you're just an entitled ign*rant, another arrogant male), even if she uses the "radical feminism" hashtag too (sadly, there's no control over hashtag use so anyone could use any hashtag he/she wants, it doesn't mean a lot).
Sheila Jeffreys is another lesbian feminist, but a deeply respectable one (I esteem her, even if I strongly disagree with her view on heterosexuality).
The problem is that patriarchy doesn't exist. Female privilege and male disposability are real, patriarchy is not.
This is misinformation and should not be on YT pretending to be educational.
Exactly
I am sorry but I have a hard time understanding how you're painting radical feminism as a bad extreme when all it aims to do is dismantle the patriarchy (which subjugates one gender) and to create a society in which opportunities and power are not distributed on the basis of gender?
I find this a poorly researched and illogical explanation video.
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Exactly! I’m confused how wanting to achieve equality for women to be seen as an extreme, and the truth is that we are where we are today because of the patriarchy and the oppression that women have been experiencing for centuries. I have also read some things that for some reason radical feminism ties to terfs and honestly, I don’t agree with that idea at all and it should not be something that ties into radical feminism
Your definition of radical feminism is also a joke.
Mixed Knight Fool actually, that’s not true. Women have been oppressed for centuries and that explanation is very tone deaf. And where are you even getting these other statements from, saying that we have more in common with our fathers does not justify anything as a matter of fact, if that was your point, which was very poorly executed. Secondly, the romantic love that a women shares with another women is not r*pe, or anything absurd of that matter. It’s the same kind of love that a straight man would have for a straight woman the thing is that people like you don’t want to admit that we’re all the same, and create this false narrative whilst encouraging outrageous and badly informed statements. And if you honestly have such a big problem with women wanting to reach equality, then it’s because it threatens your masculinity which is clearly incredibly fragile. The truth is that real men are feminist, and someone who has a stable sense of self or self esteem, won’t feel threatened by activism, so I hope that I painted the picture better for you 🤍.
The sex that lives longer, has more money, is far more likely to go to university and vastly less likely to go to prison, and is far less likely to be homeless or be murdered does not then get to claim oppression. Men are the oppressed sex, not women.
You can tell from the title of this video that it's gonna be fishy. Beware this is not a good source of info.
It's the average feminist propaganda claptrap. Nothing new under the sun. Misinformation for the overprivileged.
Is a clickbait too
This is SO WRONG. if you are interested in these topics listen to real radical feminists talk. (Germaine Greer, Andrea Dworkin etc. Just research)
For those who think this is too much work...that's also okay, you don’t have to have expertise in everything. But if you don’t know, at least don’t tell us who we are, what we want and who we hate. It is just not true.
As Germaine Greer (a radfem) once said: "We don’t hate men. We actually love them. We just want them to love us back." But instead they harrass, assault or kill us.
Radical feminism does not want equality, like most people think. Because there are already laws which see all genders as equal, but there is still inequality. So it is obviously not enough to just be seen as equals in front of the law.
That's JUST ONE idea of radical feminism. There are many more. Also there are different types of feminism: libfems, radfems, queerfems, ecofems... we are not all the same and we do not have the same view on cultural and political topics.
None of those women were 'radical'. When one stands up for oneself...that is NOT radical. It is radical to NOT stand up for oneself. We have this backwards and probably should stop allowing the title 'radical' in front of 'feminism'. Quite farnkly that makes no sense either. I'd rather just be human. So much easier. Separating everything as do is very destructive for us all.
It brings a poetic tear to my eye to see a misinfo video present a wall of corrections already propping up the comment section, not the usual gaggle of unearned angrymen and coolgirls slinging insults at feminism, fueled by the misinfo. 😭❤ for the comments.
You can't have equality of opportunity and eqauality of outcome at the same time.
And why is that?
@@hannaharnfelser1028 Because males and females are biologically different.
@@hmb8801 Everyone is biologically different, even identical twins. Your point is?
@@mattcooper9816 That in many cases increasing equality of opportunity increases the gap between males and females in different fields in terms of ratio or outcome.
it's true. Leveling the playing field just gives people a chance to become what they can. Equity is a harmful illusion
I believe it is the radical feminists who understand patriachy. Unlike "normal" feminists, they seem to realise that in order to make any headway, you must uproot patriarchy completely with all its major pillars, namely, marriage, religion and capitalism.
Ironically, it is women who are disparately clinging to this institutions begging the question, did women invent patriarchy? Because I don't think men are that smart.
Feminists deliberately fail to mention the positives that come with patriarchy (and the negatives that come with feminism)
Well you're entitled to your wrong opinions
You don’t think men are smart? That’s one huge generalization, and is very much so incorrect...So it is ok for a woman to say men are not smart but not ok vise versa??
@@hydr0826 lol, this is so funny, LOLOLOLOLOLOL. This is why feminism was doomed from the get go. The logic is at least in patriarchy, certain aspects of meritocracy was in effect along with basic concepts like due process and traditional values. The problem is feminism itself was just a jumping off point to topple those principles because in a patriarchal system, women generally could not compete without breaking those rules. Its the reason why you see all this stupid stuff happening today. Societies grow, create things, expand, and are prosperous under patriarchy. Gynocentric cultures fall into corruption and collapse. Its just how it is. That is why you generally don't see any matriarchically or gynocentric cultures around today outside of undeveloped cultures.
your lack of knowledge disturbs me augustus
@@hydr0826 before this conversation can move forward, can I confirm whether you are a feminist or not?
Submitting to the patriarchy moment
Here's the difference. Patriarchy is a term made up by radical feminism while radical feminism is an ideology that shuns logic and reason
*cough* men's rights conferences *cough*
Patriarchy persists because women support it through their desire for "traditional men".
Because they LAZY
Short simple answer .
Most radical feminists view men as evil monsters waiting to prey on innocent women. Also the misandry I have seen in radical feminist circles is insane.
That, and they're usually sex-negative (against porn and prostitution, and even sexy movies and ads).
misandry isn't real lol
@@Torera216 misogyny isn't real lol
@@Torera216 I see but what part of your statement proves misandry doesn't exist? Misandry like misogyny doesn't need institutional power to exist anyone can be a misogynist or a misandrist
Glad we can have a discussion about this. The thing is, misogyny is only possible if there is an opressor (men) who is systematically advantaged. The world is made by men for men. It's not misandric if someone e.g. insults a person who happens to be a man, misandry would be if men were disatvantaged or seen as less competent for example in job interviews or if men had to apply makeup in order to be taken seriously or viewed as professional. In a world where men would have to be scared to walk alone at night.
Radical feminism is now the mainstream feminism
No way. Liberal feminism now is a mainstream.
Where the f*ck do you live, Sniper Jeff, on what parallel planet? 🤦🏻♀️
1) I'm straight, you worthless incel;
2) You're an awful violent misogynist (and lesbophobe, 'cause even if I'm not a lesbian you've treated me as one in your sh*tty way) who wishes me death... You sound like pure incel, not me, and your hatred towards free women makes you unworthy to talk 'bout feminism and seem serious.
Bye, loser.
"You're not fooling anybody" I still like d*ck not v*lva, LOSER.
Surely not the submission you aim, Black Knight Fool.
"it's not about private part" the m*ron here is YOU, not me, bunch of sc*m, 'cause the gen*talia which a person is attracted to is exactly what define the SEX*al orientation (so lesbianism, in the case of female homosexuality, but if I as a female I'm not attracted to female gen*talia I cannot be a "lesbian", deal with it)... You're clearly an infer*or being ('cause of your rotten mind, not your maleness neither your skin colour).
your definition of radical feminism is doing away with men oppressing women. patriarchy is men oppressing women. the opposite end of the spectrum would be women oppressing men with radical feminism in the middle, as its as you defined it a movement striving to undo the patriarchy.
Yeah: this video is b*llsh"t, it tries to subtly depict radical feminism as the female aim to oppress males (which is gynarchy, another thing), but that's fake, radical feminism just wants to destroy patriarchy to rebuild a better society more equal and peaceful.
In fact radical feminism talks 'bout biological s*x (NOT "gender", an artificial sexist cultural concept made by patriarchy with stereotypes), ign*rant male 😡
Your statement doesn't make any sense... Loony.
And in doing so becoming the oppressiors
Not a reliable source of information =(. Its description of radical feminism is pretty inaccurate....
Still confused. Is radical feminism just matriarchy as the video seemed to imply, with equality somewhere in the middle between it and patriarchy? If so, why the need for two names?
I think the graphic with the radical feminism on the one end and patriarchy on the other is quite missguiding. Radial Feminism does not promote a female dominated society or a matriarchy. It has simply come to the realisation, that in a world, where a patriarcal society has been the norm since so many decades an in so many cultures and religions around the world, that the female supression has become internalised and institutionalised. Therefor, equality can not be achived, by writing in into a constitution. It is necessary to question and to deconstruckt, the institutional authorities, that hold the power and concerve male supremicy.
@@gracewittmer6433 Thanks for your reply. Yeah, that makes sense, just a potentially misleading graphic. Doesn't help that its critics (or that of feminism generally) often mischaracterise it as female dominance or matriarchy anyway, not that that should surprise me! It's actually been quite difficult to get a clear definition anywhere. Think I've finally got it though :).
This cr*ppy video simply imply the false 'bout radical feminism, Deltelly, moreover matriarchy wasn't "female dominance" (that's gynarchy, which never happened and I sincerely don't want) but a peaceful equal social system when both sexes were respected ^-^
@@ipaziamercury9942 Yeah, getting the feeling from many comments that this video is not so good. I too want a peaceful, equal system based on equal respect and say in society's decision making, whatever that's called. Can't see how that would be matriarchy though, which literally implies women (or actually mothers) taking on the primary decision making role and contrasts with patriarchy on the sexual level but still has the same problem in that some group has a higher role. Of course, we humans do seem to end up attaching the wrong words to stuff so it's possible. Also can't think what the difference between matriatchy and gynarchy (or even partiarchy and whatever the male version is) would be.
@Black Knight Fool To be honest, I don't think most men and fathers abuse women, in fact for most of us are disgusted by the behaviour of the minority who are abusers.
This video doesn't explain how radical feminism is different to patriarchy, it's perpetuating the set of beliefs held by the creator of this video. The content is not inherently bad, but the title is misleading.
The rules for thee but not for me club
Simpel question for feminists:
If feminism does not aim to take away what was created by others...why don't you build your success on your own? there is literally nothing stopping you from living the live you want nowadays except yourself. no one is your way. If you think men and woman are so equal why do your require priviledges given by men to feel equal? why can man do this on their own but womane supposedly can't? There is literally not a single advantage men have over women in the open market.
The point i generally disagree with modern feminism is because i know enough woman that are super successful compeltly on their own. they are not dependant on anyone and made it so far without any help.
Did you ever consider that your short comings are not the fault of an evil system you live in? Did it ever cross your mind that a political movement is using your emotions to weaponize your anger for their cause by telling you that all is not your fault and its all the evil other people that make your life so miserable?
1 - feminism aims for women's social and economical rights, if your wealth and/or status is built by oppressing women, yeah you're not safe, hate it to break it to you. it's like saying "well if you are anti-slavery don't you take the rights of masters, it's their right to be serve." and we don't want half of the male ceos to be fired and replaced with female ceos in one day, we just want fairness and that means more competition and men don't like it. there are so many things that stopping me, if you try to imply that women are not successful as men because don't study enough it's nonsense. there are so many double standards. women can do it own their own, society just don't let you to be on your own, free. let me tell you few examples on my life: women are expected to both take care of the child(ren) and do the housework while having a 9 to 6 job. my mom is also one of them. they are not valued since young age, parents search "is my son gifted" twice more than they search "is my daughter gifted" i have a male cousin that scored high on university enterance exam, he was highly praised that he make it to %15, i took the same exam last year and i entered the best university in my country with %2 score, reactions were not even similar. society has different vocabularies for men and women.
2 - individual success does not mean gender equality is achieved and sexism is no more an issue. radical feminism is for women as a class not for individualistic gain.
3 - yeah i did because the gaslighting that everything is normal with this society and it's only in my head. it's not the men that make my life so miserable, it's their privilege over me. i wonder who would weaponize my anger and use it for their gain? capitalism? politicians? i don't think so. i think you need to rethink about how you percieve feminism and what feminists want.
Because feminists are mostly narcissistic, lazy, and terrible people. It's way easier to hold on to that victim mentality. They dont want to work as hard as men. They want the rights with none of the responsibility.
Exactly! They wanna blame men for their problems and shortcomings, but get entirely pissed off when men blame women for their problems and shortcomings. Hypocritical much?
@@Mikecoressounds like male projection
Anything radical is bad. Even radical Pacificism. The world is suppose to be balanced.
Men and women aren't equal, aren't the same, and shouldn't be treated as such; doing so is an invitation to disaster.
but should be givin equal opportunity and rights.
They will never be equal in biology but they can be equal at social opportunities
Exactly, katsyaruna han (we're biologically different but "humanly" equal).
@@ipaziamercury9942 exactly, gender equality is great but gender equity is not only sexist to both genders but is unfair
And in all this they want men to be subordinates to women whereas women think that it's misogynistic for men to make women a subordinate to men. That's why you have radical feminist women that want to have the entitlement to have seniority over men. They want men to let them walk all over them and step on them. And when men don't allow women to do so, that when they lead their radical feminist attack on men.
Such a strange video
WOW. this is so wrong and misinformed/ing on many levels.
Patriarchy is a system in countries where the central power is weak. Men are protectors and take care of everything on the outside. Women are protected and responsible of the household. Strict gender roles. Not fun for everyone but a working system in undeveloped countries. Economic prosperity gave women equality, not feminism. It wouldn't make sense to fight for equality in the Dark Ages, where it sucked to be a woman but just as much to be a man. Perhaps it was of interest to a noblewoman but they were like 0,1% of the population. The rest were farmers who had no reason to fight over who was milking the cows or plowing the field. The patriarchy has always been a system created by men and women. With a strong central power women don't need men as much and can have more freedom. But of course they still admire the elite of men and rely on their beauty to make their way up in the social hierarchy.
What kinda nonsense is this???
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With lies.
@@ipaziamercury9942 radical feminsm is a lie
lol
How many brain cells ought I to sacrifice to become a feminist? And if you think I don't have what it takes to be a feminist well, guess what, I have no education in biology whatsoever and if that does not qualify me I don't know what will
There is only one thing you need to understand and that is.
“Women are mean and men are stupid” that’s it.
Now before you bash that keyboard with your feigned outrage. Think on it for awhile.
Feminism 🤣🤣☕☕
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🤮 pathriarcal blurb
Pathriarcy what makes us today, with all technologies etc.
@@ardi1606 False. You close your eyes on existence of women scientists such as Hedy Lamarr
@@unknown_author no i'm not, but believe it or not without men and pathriarcy, we would be still running around naked now.
So recognize the existence of intelligent women is something despicable for you, Black Knight Fool... You're DISG*STING
@Black Knight Fool why are you quoting me? my comment is visible yet. there's no need to quote it. it is a pity that you do not know how to google to find even more women scientists. Беды з мазгаўней. Напэўна ўсе амерыканцы зрабіліся тупымі)
Whatever blah blah society we have, but ladies always should give birth before age 45. 😀
And so? 😒
I'm not a lesbian (and anyway there's nothing wrong in being one), loony, stfu you're boring.
"straight women don't find me boring" for sure, pathetic loony 😂
"straight women don't wear female symbols 'cause they're already woman" exactly 'cause I'm a woman I use it as a propic, you ridicolous mor*n, and wlw (aka lesbian/bi)/asex women are women too (you see us women just as your f*cktoy, so misogynist and lesbophobic, y*kes)... You clearly don't know anything about women, what a freak 😂
Anyway, doesn't matter how much you insist to call me a "lesbian", I still er*tically attracted to men (real ones, not st*pid crybabies like you) only, not women... You've clearly the iq of a flatworm 😂