PLAYING MORTAL KOMBAT 2 WAS SO STRESSFUL...
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- čas přidán 25. 04. 2022
- Okay, Mortal Kombat 2, you presented one of the most stressful arcade modes I've ever faced. This was UP there for me. The AI in this game was absolutely broken and CHEAP that it caused me despair. Let me know in the comments below if you've ever tried this arcade mode because OH BOY.
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Lmfao the fact that Justin throws the ice on the floor and the CPU just stands there and waits for it to run out kills me every time.
@jash21222i was waiting for it 😂
NOT STEPPING ON THAT BRO LOL
Lol😂😂😂
@jash21222yeah lol
I’m very surprised that Justin wasn’t doing Jax’s deadly just kick into quick back breaker.
That was always my major go to Jax combo in MK II.
me too as my sub mains
the thing about MK II is that it was programmed in a way so the computer can have a reaction percentage to your attacks after the second battle, and most of time that reaction time was about 90% and also what move to perform under certain conditions, you can see that when Justin was fighting Mileena and after every jump she also jumped and attack.
Except this is extremely exploitable by jumping at her from close enough she'll try to air sai throw against you, but you can just kick her before it comes out.
The spaced jump kick is a god move in MK II against the A.I. Jump at the enemy from the right distance and punish them repeatedly.
When all else fails I go for the trip trip throw tactic
@@johndewberryiii9925 Never try to throw this AI. You in fact will be thrown guaranteed
@@LydellG4 a high percentage but not 100 lol I used to play all the time on Super Nintendo
I like how 100% of the time the Ai knows how to do the stage fatality
Isn't there a cheat code where you can make it that any time the AI wins, they use a fatality?
Why not?
@I Just Wanna Talk About Games nah they were special inputs too.
gotta rub that salt in the open wound.
gotta rub that salt in the open wound.
This is my only gripe with MK2. The AI is terribly unfair, made to empty our pockets from the arcades. But the rest of the game is Mortal Kombat at it's purest form.
Yeah some of the best stages from across the whole series.
I remember playing Rev1 or like a demo version of mk2 when it first came out at my local 7-11. There was no Shao Khan boss. You beat Kintaro and thing just ended.
@@gonagai1359 either the guy or whomever set the game up that way(which can happen) or shao Khan had to be a hidden boss..
Indeed Kombat at its finest
@@jebVlogs556 ah that may have been it. Kintaro was insane. Then next version got a bit easier and we could now fight Shao khan so yeah maybe it was hidden by dipset?
That constant Shang Tsung jump over Sub Zero's slide had me in tears
Shang was having none of it with sub zero inviting him to dance and do the cha cha slide.
Same here! Funny as.
Same hahaahh
'Like in a movie'
I can't believe I used to play this every day without feeling frustrated when I was a kid. I played so much that I found a glitch which I haven't shared with anyone. I was able to do a Fatality in round 1 with Kung Lao. All you had to do was keep doing the hat throw to win two matches. Then do the hat throw fatality to finish the match. In the next match, do the hat throw as your first attack. This regular move will be a Fatality. The opponent must be standing still in order to make this happen.
Pleasant surprise seeing you here. XD
In order to beat this game flawlessly, you gotta exploit the AI. This games AI is actually incredibly dumb once you figure it out.
Thats a fact
How so? Give us some tips
You can say it's more A then I ;)
@@dspsblyuth If you choose player 1: Duck and jump back at the right distance (one or two steps). 90% chance the AI will jump right after you. anti-air to death.
If you choose player two is even more egregious: Duck in front of the opponent (again one or two steps, Right after a sweep or landing an air kick works best). Then jump forward. The AI will start walking back all the way to the end of the arena. If you then jump forward, 100% of the times it will throw a fireball. Combo and repeat to death.
It will work for sure from the 3rd match onward. That's when the heavy AI bullshit kicks in by the way.
People still don't get that and it's funny. As a kid I figured it out and one of my boys that is in the FGC community was getting smacked and I couldn't stop laughing lol.
The AI in MK2 is notorious for cheating. You have to play cheap if you hope to stand any chance against it.
*"The A.I be pissing me off sometimes."*
Welcome to old school MK, it shows no mercy...well after you get to the 3rd fight.
Then the real kicker starts
MK1's AI isn't even that bad.
I've always struggled to beat the 4th opponent in mk2 without exploring the ai. They made the ai unfair on purpose
Well MK1 and MK3/UMK3/MKT aren’t bad AI they are pretty fun and challenging I absolutely enjoy revisiting them and MKT was one of the first games on Console I owned for PS1 and got me into MK(series is garbage now ever since WB bought MK enter nrs the end of MK in my book) but its freakin MK2 AI that pisses me off with input reading BS that alone kills the vibe of the game for me made to devour quarters in the early 90s the shitty AI really hurts the game as a whole because it could’ve been so much more you got bigger roster, iconic new kharacters, cooler stages etc this could’ve been a game thats another klassik I loved and go back to with the other MK games but nah.
@@corpsedesecrator2612 Nah, MK3 and UMK3 arcade are bullshit too, especially UMK3. How many times have we seen Jade instantly activate her invincibility on frame 1 of you pressing a button before sprinting forward and hitting her max damage combo?
Modern Vintage Gamer did a real good and in depth video on MK AI cheating. He even digs into the code to show exactly what it's doing.
Yup I ask the arcade manager to adjust the game for *Maximum Cringe 😬*
Came here to say this
Ima look it up.
It's a bit easier on player 2 side
I had this happen first hand when I went to one of those free play places
I didn’t remember this game being so fucking hard had the loves list on my iPhone and everything
It was like I couldn’t make a mistake or mistime anything
It was horrible 😭😭😭😭
Lmao I’ve played this game for years and have never seen kintaro get pieced up like that 😂😂😂 11:51
Yeah it's funny af
Side note: even Playing as Kintaro, you cant do that fireball fireball stomp
I can't even get mad and Justin doing the infinite on kintaro. This game, THIS GAME DESERVES IT!!
A permadeath/nuzzlocke arcade run of this would be interesting (any character the computer does a Fatality against cannot be used to Kontinue the run).
That’s fucking dope
@@thesilentsociety3252 Is very viable with the MK2+ hack to do that, as there is an option to make the AI always do a Fatality, and if you enable extra moves, both Kintaro and Shao Kahn can also do a Fatality as well, in the normal MK2 is pure RNG and the bosses don't have a Fatality, in that case I would say that boss characters would make your character "dead" for the run.
@@PikangsFutaba Shao Kahn & Kintaro had fatals!? Now I gotta look these up, thanks for letting me know about MK2+ hack
10:32 I think the AI is starting to learn and it's getting scary lol 🤣
Hah, this was one of the first fighting games I played on console. And yeah, the AI wasn't interested in playing fair 🤣
Mileena,Jax and Motaro give me hell as a kid. Mileena could rolling thunder you into oblivion,Jax had that grab and suplex (which would be anti-air) and Motaro if the AI is stupid smart would kick my ass same way as it did Justin. Only in MK2 would this happen .
They never made the AI fair. It has priority on moves like throws, can counter uppercuts. The system was meant to drain quarters from people, like any arcade machine in the 90's.
No wonder I haven't learn much with A.I. despite the amount of hours played of this game.
@@fidacuca Modern Vintage Gamer has a video breaking down the AI code and how it functions
@Ash...which AIs ARE interested in playing fair?
Kintaro deals close to 100% damage in a single combo.
Welcome back to 1992!
Nobody warned Justin that MKII has some of the cheapest input reading of any game’s AI? Excellent.
He's been preparing playing old SNK fgs
The game was made to steal quarters. At an arcade, cheapness is not really noticeable. You just spend and spend
Kung Lao was an absolute beast in MK 2 against the AI. My universal tactic was to 1) get the follow up dive kick after drop kicks 2) Retreat jump back and dive kick in mid air while the AI mocked your jump. Also, Kintaro had no answer for Kung Lao's aura spin if followed up or repeated
Incredulous:
- adjective,
1.) "The state of being unwilling and/or unable to believe something"
2.) Justin Wong's (well deserved & fully reasonable) face at 11:38
I felt that pain, my G. Sending you a virtual bro hug 🤗!
Mileena A.I. Is one of the most busted/broken things ever made, she could fit as a midboss in any of the old KOF
Mileena is actually one of the easiest CPU to fight against if you use the AI camping method. Walk up to her and jump kick immediately, she'll try to jump into the air and use her Air Sai's to air to air you, the thing is your immediate jump kick will beat her everytime, you just have to make sure you're close enough to land the jump kick before the Air Sai's come out. You basically repeat this until she loses.
Though this is also dependent on how far or low on the totem pole she is, if she's an earlier character you fight she won't do the Air Sai so the above method won't work, but if shes in the middle to late on the totem pole she'll try to Air Sai you every time you jump making the above tactic legit.
@@nhykue7392 I just use Liu Kang to jump over the Sai throws. For some reason, he has the highest jump height in the game.
QUEEN!! 👑😍
@@SeetheAutmon he means the jumping air Sai throws she uses to counter your jump towards her. If you jump up but dont spin and press high kick quickly you will beat her jumping air Sai throws. Sometimes if you are to close she throws her own front jump kick and counters that way. She is one of the most broken AI on there
@@domls1317 I knew what he meant.
That combo at 11:37 was devastating 😂
11:37 YOU WHAAAAAAAATTTTTTTTTT
My mouth was open at that haha
This video just scored you a subscriber! Nice work pushing through especially at the end when the game was freaking out! Nice!
Can you imagine how many quarters it took me to beat MK2 back in 1993/94? The ONLY person I had zero problem beating Kintaro with was Kitana and Jax was the first one I beat Shao Khan with.
It's a hard game but it has always been my favorite growing up! Fun fact - the earlier arcade revisions were much harder especially the boss fights!
I really enjoy your videos, especially this because it cracked me up. Also, it is a nice touch to use kof 2000 soundtrack. Such masterpieces!! Keep it up! 😃👍🏻
was laughing so damn hard all through out...the whole video 🤣🤣🤣
Milena beat him up 😂😂
As a long time MK fan I waited for this for so long.
My man, good to see you learning OG MK titles! Now that you got your butt beat, it’s time to learn the exploits!
Love your content, man! Keep it up!!
ROFL!! The Shang Tsung fight had me rollin!!! Great vid Mr. Wong
Justin just started watching your videos! Great content like it that you show the good the bad and the funny. Keep up the good work bro your new fan.
Arcade enemies input read like crazy and can throw/uppercut/sweep you during your attack frames.
Plus their attacks also cancel out yours. Its like all their mives got startup invincibilty
I understand why the arcade does it, they want to take my money, but the console ports cheat too, I've already paid for the damn cartridge.
I remember when this came out in the 90s in the arcade... There was always a crowd around and you could never see the monitor on what was going on... so they started putting TVs on top of the cabinets that would show the matches being played so the people in the back of the crowd could watch... What always boggled my mind was the people who new the moves and fatalities when the game was new...we didn't have the internet then, the game wasn't out but for about a week and I'm standing there watching the tv monitor and all of a sudden Liu Kang turns into a dragon and then fatality.. Still would like to know how he knew how to do that early in its release...
There were move lists being shared among some of the community. MK2 was 1993, I know usenet and IRC groups were pretty active about arcade games around that time too. The people in the know about the more technical games back in my town during the 90s were all university students.
IIRC shortly after it came out some students(s) at UofM? submitted some move list to GamePro. That was a long time ago tho so don't quote me on the details : )
The AI doesn't even hide the fact that it cheats lol.
I'll always have a soft spot for this game. Was the first one i played back on the Genesis. Miss those days
I laughed my ass off with Reptile copy the Justin's jump,with the constant jump of Shang Tsung when Justin attempts to finish him off with the ice slide and Justin's reaction to Kintaro's custom combo who took 80 percent of his life.🤣🤣🤣🤣
Watching you struggle on the exact same enemies as me back in the day makes me feel so much better about my then selfs MK skills. 🤣 It's pretty interesting seeing that they designed it like that.
This game reads your inputs and reacts almost instantly. 90 percent of the time an uppercut will be countered with an uppercut. The secret to an uppercut is their arm is part of the hit box. So if you can time it where your uppercut hits their hand you have a better chance of connecting and not being countered. But it varies by character and it has to be timed perfectly.
Man, I’m hooked on your videos. I don’t even play fighting games bro! Rooting for your continued success
Use kitana and just tap back repeatedly , once they are close use the fan lift move to stun them , then combo them with jump kick , arial fan and superman punch.
The ai in this game is so stupid hard but also so exploitable. You can legit beat everything by spamming jump in kick into sweep
12:29 gotta love the hokuto no ken references!
Love it bro, from my youth, straight fire your content is 💯💯👍 well I'm not old but old enough to know about playing dis and street fighter in the arcades and earlier consoles.
MK2 be like, "Oh so you thought SF2 was cheap, LET ME SHOW YOU WHAT CHEAP IS!!!"
Ahh the memories get spending all day fighting Kintaro with my older brother but never beating him.
Jax has a air throw. Block in air. If you forward jump kick into block button u do a backbreaker. Or do a cross up jump kick into back breaker.
10:53 hahahahahahahha, o my god that was so fun, thanks for the video!!
The AI has way too many advantages....
Stop making me laugh Justin, that sequence with shang tsung and the slide is freaking hilarious
Nice vid jwong....luv 2 see u jump on mkx again
Awesome stuff man!
I always loved how Scorpion and Reptile sometimes do Sub-Zero's stance lol
Lucky me i had my buddies to play MK games back then because plaiyng arcade its not that fun sometimes. Especially MK2.
11:00 I love the song of church in SNK vs Capcom Chaos.
Nice video! I love the MK Kontent!
Back in the day, the pizza joint I used to work for had an MK2 machine in their arcade area and I would frequently play it while waiting to give a coworker a ride or for my shift to start. I eventually got to the point where I could consistently beat it on a single credit with several characters. Unfortunately, you can't really "play" the game against the AI in MK2. The AI in MK2 is incredibly cheap and the only way to get through it is by learning the AI's "pattern" and taking advantage of it.
There is actually a video that looks at the MK2 code to see why the AI was so cheap: czcams.com/video/KUttRUpVnq4/video.html
Yea. Jump kick and then walk backwards, a.i freezes.
Most of the real people players I've played against are cheaper than the AI for MK2. They get one trick/combo that works for them, then they spam it.
IDK the entire coding for the game, but I was able to cruise through the arcade m ode just using different openers to get quick 2-4 hit combo/juggles. As long as you don't repeat too often the AI seems to get caught in enough to justify the risk of getting punished.
@@joseph1150 I disagree. MK2 is ONLY fun against another human opponent. The a.i makes the game unplayable.
@@theodorebennefield2030 idk I played it a whole bunch back in the day against the AI and it wasn't that hard.
Sorry Justin, your stress can heal our humiliated childhood memories. XD
Damn Justin, that whole Shang Tang sequecing had me dying! This has been one your funniest videos.
We were waiting for this 😂😂
LOL. This game was programmed to steal your quarters. It's a commom Midway practice. The AI scales the dificulty after the first fight and then does input reading to kick your ass. You have to exploit it to beat the game, the easier way is to fall back near the end of the stage, just leave a little space between you and the wall, then back jump with kick. The AI will jump with you to enclose you, and the kick will connect. Then just repeat until you win.
Threw away so many quarters in the arcade doing story mode 😂🤣😂🤣
Would love to see you play some more of the MK games, some of the the 3d jank too could be fun :)
I was born in 84 so that intro was my childhood same character and everything
AI was reading minds out here. Especially since it was designed that way 😂. It’s programming allows for the AI to literally not only read your input but to counter AND ignore your frames. (Quarter Draining techs lol). Take a look at the code sometime. They had Ballz for this. All in all, Nice gameplay! You actually figured out the LAME strat for this. Jump backwards, then jump forwards with HK
The 90s gaming scene was just built different than nowadays. There was no internet like today... not whinning like there's today (from public and critic)... also we overall werent going cry and rage quit just because of a difficulty... so the devs felt like doing all that dirty coding in the old games. That's the mark of that era.
@@carlosaugusto9821 So basically the devs were bigger assholes than now and we pretend that was a good thing
@@carlosaugusto9821 Back then, people didn’t have the ability to call out cheap developers on their bullshit in videos you could easily access. Not even all games did this, just MK
@@carlosaugusto9821 let's call it like it is we were getting robbed back then
Now beat super street fighter 2 turbo USA version on max difficulty without losing a round and beating Akuma with one try.
Us gamers born around the 80's and 90's we grew up and beat these old fighting games. It's what we do.
Best combo with Kitano is jump kick fan toss jump kick, or uppercut. You can start to play with ducking low punch to juggle, and the square wave punch into fantoss is gross, followed by ducking low punches into uppercut
My favorite MK game.
Needs a remake or even a remaster
MKII AI is incredibly unfair, but also easily exploited, as they are all programmed to do X when you do Y,. Jax for example can put everyone in an air throw loop until Kintaro. Shao Kahn is cakewalk too - just stand in place and spam LK - it will stop all of his attacks. I think Kintaro is the only somewhat difficult opponent as he is harder to exploit than most.
This is how I started beating him almost 90 percent of the time. Even getting double flawless about 30 -50 percent of the time
11:55 😭😂😂😂😂💀 *Kintaro became Subzero personal punching bag*
I remember playing this and hating life for a while. Like I couldn't look at my Genesis for a week, because I was gonna throw it out my window.
I had this on the Genesis as well. I mostly played with my older brother (whooped his ass) but, when it came to the arcade ladder, for some reason, when we were kids he could always beat the game but, I never could.
I'm letting you know MK2 is one of the cheapest In the series but my favorite! Love your vids Justin!
That Kintaro combo was insane.
that was vicious 🤣
Home port glitch lol that didn’t work in the arcade. used to do it on the snes and went to the arcade and tried it and it didn’t work
Baraka is the best character for sure. I felt your pain Justin as a child playing this awesome game it was so difficult not much essier now to be honest lol. Great video as always 👊
Bro soon as the intro started I died laughing 😂
The MK2 AI is incredibly cheap, in otherwise you can't fight it like you would a normal player. However the AI because of how its programmed is prone to being AI camped, each character basically has a AI camping method that works against them.
Just watched a documentary that went over how MK2 AI was the most broken AI of any fighting game.
However there is a single trick you can use to cheat the game, and apparently JWong didn't know it xD
What a beginning!!!
This was one of those games that made me rage kick the arcade as a kid. Though it has become my favorite over the years.
People tend to forget how hard the original Mortal Kombat trilogy. MK 2 is hardest then all of them. I remember when this game came out in 93. My older brother was excited for this game especially he beat MK 1 in the arcade. It took my brother the whole summer of 93 at 7 eleven to not only get extremely good. But to finally beat Shao Kahn. His go to person was Kitana. That because he did fan lift to fan throw while in the air and then using flying punch. That 7 eleven machine made countless of quarters off him. But he was able to said beat MK 2 in first year when the game came out. After that he quit video games because the amount hours and money he put just to beat the game.
the problem is the game actively cheated. it had tons of invincibility where you had none and was coded to read uppercuts and throws as you input them. you had to exploit the AI's tendency to act weird when you were cornered to actually win which is a shame because outside of that it was fine. as kids we never got it at the arcade, but its been proven.
Truen, while my 1st experience with MK2 was it's SNES port, it had most of the same AI issues and was fun to figure out how to make it dumb enough to cheese it.
Although that's the norm of old classic fgs. It started with SF2. Cpu chars with different parameters than the human played chars, absurd reactions, unfair boss. MK just followed the trend.
@@carlosaugusto9821 SF2 AI cheated on a whole nother level. When a charge character like Guile can throw a sonic boom and then do a flash kick while moving forward. He was almost impossible to beat.
It sucks when you have to cheese to win
"Damn that looks like me cosplayin " Hahaha great job!
Shout outs to the editor! KOF soundtrack really rocks!
That combo at 11:32 never worked on the OG arcade cabinets. I remember doing that on the SNES version and I went to the arcade all confident… and it flat out didn’t work on the arcades
Love that you are using king of fighters 2000 ost as ur background music
If the MKII ai wasn't so terrible, I'm sure I would have played it as much as the first and third releases. Fun to see Justin playing the MK series!
Very nice Justin you beat mk 2 I could beat it too it's difficult but once you get the hang of it you're good to go
Thanks Justin Wong I appreciate you so much keep up the good work
After all this time it's still hard to come back to the classic MK games. The developers built input reading for the A.I. and passed it off as "difficulty" when in reality it was to eat quarters. At the 8:14 mark as you attempt to sweep Raiden as he is landing from a forward jump; he literally does not touch the ground, jumps backwards and dodges the sweep. I'm disappointed the code will not be revisited as classic MK is available in miniature arcade cabinets I would love to own but the games themselves are not worth revisiting.
9:00 the music brings back lots of cheap, unfair memories.
I’m over here LMAO. Playing this in the 90s on PlayStation 1 and Arcade I was a combo’s and specials guy
hell yeah homie! glass on POINT today! fuckin great vid, mk2 ai bosses are jerks you did the work though baby!
oh shit i lied, hes not showing us ... hes adjusting the glasses! like anime but bad
Ah, reliving my young adulthood. 😂 I’m surprised you didn’t combo Jax jump kicks into the back breaker with the block button or the gotcha grab.
I really want to see Justin do a Last Blade 1 or 2 Arcade Run. That would be sick af.
11:37 lol are you kidding me 😂
I love the SVC chaos boss music for the whole vid. Mr. Karate and Shin Akuma are still not as bad as MKII AI.
First time i played MKII was in 90's on keyboard only input. I had absolutely no idea that devs made this game to scam people out of their money in arcades. Well as a teenager back then i had plenty of time to learn how to beat that ai. It literally scales. First round is opponent is always easy. Then AI counter bias that reads your input goes from 1 to 9 for subsequent opponents. If you lose and continue 2 times in a row the bias is reduced for that opponent by 1. If you win however it goes back up again for next opponent.
there was a trick where you could get a bit out of range...jump backwards and any character would jump after you and you could just throw a straight kick and knock them back...except lui kang on the pit on hard
Ahahah, at 12:31 you were Kenshiro from Fist of North Star 😂
Modern Vintage Gamer (he's a game developer if you don't know him) has recently uploaded a video: "How Mortal Kombat 2 cheats against you" where he explains (with the code) how this game cheats. That jump against Baraka and Mileena are basically impossible to land because of that.