Just found a pair of those exact garmont boots for $50 and have been trying to teach myself to telemark ski and your videos have been massively helpful!
Awesome video! Just got a pair of the exact Garmont boots in your video paired with a set of 177 Fischer t-stix and G3 Targa's. First year on telemark and on patrol as well after 18+ years on alpine and the experience is amazing! Can't wait for more videos!
Thanks. I enjoy your videos, and look forward to this series. I started in the late 90's on leather boots and skinny skis, took a break and got back into telemarking a few years ago. Switched to NTN last season and love it. Technology is also appreciated as I age a bit. :) Love the Crispis WC Evos and the 22D NTN setup. Thanks again for the great videos, very enjoyable. Have a great season!
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So we are due for a new generation ! Good job brother.
Cool video. I made the switch last season, after 15 years and I'm not sure I'll ever go back to 75mm. Used the Rottefella Freedoms with great success last year, this year I'll be trying out some Outlaws paired to Line Sakanas. Can't wait! We need snow in the Pacific Northwest! I like that you clarified that the tech heel on the WC Evo is meant for that Meidjo heel-piece. I may have misunderstood, but it seemed you briefly mentioned that it could also be used for alpine skiing (earlier in the vid), but Crispi expressly warns that these boots are for telemark only.
I really enjoyed seeing your boot evolution! Back in the 90s I was inspired by Steve Barnett's "Cross-Country Downhill." I'm holding my well worn copy in my hand right now. I started by renting telemark gear and leather boots similar to yours. On our first overnight trip I ended up with huge blisters on my heels. Ouch. A park ranger cut up an old foam sleeping pad to make blister-protectors with holes for my blisters. They were taped to my heel and fitted into the boots. That setup was so comfortable that I wore the boots all the way home. Soon I acquired my own T2 boots. I'd be interested in your opinion of the Altai Kōm skis. I understand they are designed (and maybe manufactured) in Quebec. In my old age, I am considering a much shorter ski than is normally recommended for my height and weight (easier to turn). The Kōm's high tips look great for touring (breaking trail) in the backcountry. Maybe, for different reasons, you and I are looking to lighten the load on our feet.
Great overview! I think all telemarkers should have an NNN-BC setup too. In the right conditions with the right technique you can make some pretty legit turns.
I sure do love mine for taking the dog out, or doing fieldwork when I want something fast and light, generally stomping around the woods, but I honestly find they're not much better than my skate skis for making tele turns. I was on Merrel Legends for the first five years I was teleing, so I can still pull it off if conditions are forgiving (i.e. piece o' cake in low angle corn) but hardly ideal!!!
Good video. I would have added a Merrell SuperComp after the Vasque but great info overall. I taught telemark skiing in the 90s and still use a 75mm set up. I was curious what the benefit was to the huge plastic boots so it was good to hear. Thanks
Just got set up with Meidjo 2.1 and Evo WC. Previous setup Axl/T2. Holy stiff. Only a few runs so far, so I'll give a few more days to decide whether I like the stiffness or not. I weight only 160 lbs so maybe I'm too light for the WC.
Excellent, fun and informative video. I still ski leather or leather/plastic from the early '90's. I have not made the switch to the full hard plastic boot plastic. I can't even imagine what it would be like. Probably, I would like it, so I don't even want to try it. ;-)
@Explorer Mike I was a die-hard leather lover too until my Supercomps wore out and I was forced into plastic...the first year in plastic boots I HATED them...they were soooo stiff. But, after a lot of days in them, they finally broke in and started to flex properly, and now I wouldn't want to go back to leather for my hard-charging days. In still prefer my leather lace-ups for long trips in the backcountry though!
@@johns3106 no question a stiffer and more supportive boot makes vertical skiing a lot easier and allows you to take on more challenging terrain. I was one of the earlier Telemark skiers in the USA starting in the 1980s. We started with the old leather boots, then started adding "power straps" to low-cuff leather boots which helped a little. Then the higher stiffer collar leather boots like the Merrill Supercomps, then pastic cuffs on leather boots. Fast forward to today where plastic telemark boots look nearly the same as alpine/downhill boots. These days, I don't spend too much time on lift service areas. I do occasionally ski lift service, but these days, I am doing more back-country and it is not extreme, so I like the leather boots for the flexibility and comfort. Even the Supercomps are a little too stiff for what I do now.
Actually it is not recommended to use telemark boots in alpine binding as the t-boots have rubber and the front sideway's release safety needs a defined friction. That is defined on the hard plastic from the alpine boots. When using t-boots in alpine you likely dont get a front sideway release in case of a fall.. may affect the ligaments.
Good video! I bought new Moment skis and looking to move over to NTN bindings. I’m somewhat hesitant to move away from 75mm.. Which the 22 Designs binding would be closer to a 75mm binding?
Lynx is apparently "softer" than Outlaws but the Outlaws are super burly. I think you should give them a try even though it's a different feel. The power is addictive! What Moments? Deathwish?
I am so lost.... I have rossi 100bc with nnnnbc bindings and Alaskan boots. I want to learn to tele the down hills to keep from biffing it. To much information. How do I do what I need to do
I am skiing NNN BC and heading towards Telemark BC XC skiing in order to improve my skills, safety and control and enjoyment on BC downhill terrain. I am getting a pair of Madshus Annum skis, 75 mm 3 pin cable binding and possibly the Garmont or Scott excursion plastic Telemark boot. Fischer make a BCX6 75 mm Duck bill boot but it has a reputation for the toe splitting after two busy BC XC ski seasons.
Cool video. I made the switch last season, after 15 years and I'm not sure I'll ever go back to 75mm. Used the Rottefella Freedoms with great success last year, this year I'll be trying out some Outlaws paired to Line Sakanas. Can't wait! We need snow in the Pacific Northwest! I like that you clarified that the tech heel on the WC Evo is meant for that Meidjo heel-piece. I may have misunderstood, but it seemed you briefly mentioned that it could also be used for alpine skiing (earlier in the vid), but Crispi expressly warns that these boots are for telemark only.
Just found a pair of those exact garmont boots for $50 and have been trying to teach myself to telemark ski and your videos have been massively helpful!
Awesome video! Just got a pair of the exact Garmont boots in your video paired with a set of 177 Fischer t-stix and G3 Targa's. First year on telemark and on patrol as well after 18+ years on alpine and the experience is amazing! Can't wait for more videos!
Thanks John
Thanks. I enjoy your videos, and look forward to this series. I started in the late 90's on leather boots and skinny skis, took a break and got back into telemarking a few years ago. Switched to NTN last season and love it. Technology is also appreciated as I age a bit. :) Love the Crispis WC Evos and the 22D NTN setup. Thanks again for the great videos, very enjoyable. Have a great season!
So we are due for a new generation ! Good job brother.
Thanks for the interesting and fun history lesson! I can't wait for the next video!
Thanks John. Working on a live session to answer pre season questions. What do you think?
Cool video. I made the switch last season, after 15 years and I'm not sure I'll ever go back to 75mm. Used the Rottefella Freedoms with great success last year, this year I'll be trying out some Outlaws paired to Line Sakanas. Can't wait! We need snow in the Pacific Northwest!
I like that you clarified that the tech heel on the WC Evo is meant for that Meidjo heel-piece. I may have misunderstood, but it seemed you briefly mentioned that it could also be used for alpine skiing (earlier in the vid), but Crispi expressly warns that these boots are for telemark only.
I really enjoyed seeing your boot evolution! Back in the 90s I was inspired by Steve Barnett's "Cross-Country Downhill." I'm holding my well worn copy in my hand right now. I started by renting telemark gear and leather boots similar to yours. On our first overnight trip I ended up with huge blisters on my heels. Ouch. A park ranger cut up an old foam sleeping pad to make blister-protectors with holes for my blisters. They were taped to my heel and fitted into the boots. That setup was so comfortable that I wore the boots all the way home. Soon I acquired my own T2 boots.
I'd be interested in your opinion of the Altai Kōm skis. I understand they are designed (and maybe manufactured) in Quebec. In my old age, I am considering a much shorter ski than is normally recommended for my height and weight (easier to turn). The Kōm's high tips look great for touring (breaking trail) in the backcountry. Maybe, for different reasons, you and I are looking to lighten the load on our feet.
I'm also interested in the Altai Koms. Have you heard any first hand reviews yet?
Great overview! I think all telemarkers should have an NNN-BC setup too. In the right conditions with the right technique you can make some pretty legit turns.
TheCaptainA agreed.
I sure do love mine for taking the dog out, or doing fieldwork when I want something fast and light, generally stomping around the woods, but I honestly find they're not much better than my skate skis for making tele turns. I was on Merrel Legends for the first five years I was teleing, so I can still pull it off if conditions are forgiving (i.e. piece o' cake in low angle corn) but hardly ideal!!!
I loved the Garmont Veloce, it wa smy very 1st plastic telemark boot... Since them only Scarpa T1.... 😂
Good video. I would have added a Merrell SuperComp after the Vasque but great info overall. I taught telemark skiing in the 90s and still use a 75mm set up. I was curious what the benefit was to the huge plastic boots so it was good to hear. Thanks
Thor Clark thanks Thor. Yes super comp and original T2
Bit I think the technique will remain about the same
Just got set up with Meidjo 2.1 and Evo WC. Previous setup Axl/T2. Holy stiff. Only a few runs so far, so I'll give a few more days to decide whether I like the stiffness or not. I weight only 160 lbs so maybe I'm too light for the WC.
Excellent, fun and informative video. I still ski leather or leather/plastic from the early '90's. I have not made the switch to the full hard plastic boot plastic. I can't even imagine what it would be like. Probably, I would like it, so I don't even want to try it. ;-)
Explorer Mike thanks for the kind words
@Explorer Mike I was a die-hard leather lover too until my Supercomps wore out and I was forced into plastic...the first year in plastic boots I HATED them...they were soooo stiff. But, after a lot of days in them, they finally broke in and started to flex properly, and now I wouldn't want to go back to leather for my hard-charging days. In still prefer my leather lace-ups for long trips in the backcountry though!
@@johns3106 no question a stiffer and more supportive boot makes vertical skiing a lot easier and allows you to take on more challenging terrain. I was one of the earlier Telemark skiers in the USA starting in the 1980s. We started with the old leather boots, then started adding "power straps" to low-cuff leather boots which helped a little. Then the higher stiffer collar leather boots like the Merrill Supercomps, then pastic cuffs on leather boots. Fast forward to today where plastic telemark boots look nearly the same as alpine/downhill boots. These days, I don't spend too much time on lift service areas. I do occasionally ski lift service, but these days, I am doing more back-country and it is not extreme, so I like the leather boots for the flexibility and comfort. Even the Supercomps are a little too stiff for what I do now.
Actually it is not recommended to use telemark boots in alpine binding as the t-boots have rubber and the front sideway's release safety needs a defined friction. That is defined on the hard plastic from the alpine boots. When using t-boots in alpine you likely dont get a front sideway release in case of a fall.. may affect the ligaments.
Good video! I bought new Moment skis and looking to move over to NTN bindings. I’m somewhat hesitant to move away from 75mm.. Which the 22 Designs binding would be closer to a 75mm binding?
Lynx is apparently "softer" than Outlaws but the Outlaws are super burly. I think you should give them a try even though it's a different feel. The power is addictive! What Moments? Deathwish?
I bought the Wildcat resort skiing.. Thanks for the info!
Hello Rob. Hard to answer. The Lynx can be set to a very low activness.
I am so lost.... I have rossi 100bc with nnnnbc bindings and Alaskan boots. I want to learn to tele the down hills to keep from biffing it. To much information. How do I do what I need to do
I am skiing NNN BC and heading towards Telemark BC XC skiing in order to improve my skills, safety and control and enjoyment on BC downhill terrain. I am getting a pair of Madshus Annum skis, 75 mm 3 pin cable binding and possibly the Garmont or Scott excursion plastic Telemark boot. Fischer make a BCX6 75 mm Duck bill boot but it has a reputation for the toe splitting after two busy BC XC ski seasons.
Im stuck in the 90's
Maybe the best era !
IPA du Nord-Est! :-)
ho ho ho
Cool video. I made the switch last season, after 15 years and I'm not sure I'll ever go back to 75mm. Used the Rottefella Freedoms with great success last year, this year I'll be trying out some Outlaws paired to Line Sakanas. Can't wait! We need snow in the Pacific Northwest!
I like that you clarified that the tech heel on the WC Evo is meant for that Meidjo heel-piece. I may have misunderstood, but it seemed you briefly mentioned that it could also be used for alpine skiing (earlier in the vid), but Crispi expressly warns that these boots are for telemark only.