Twitter told me Sin was trash, so I won a tournament with him | Guilty Gear Strive
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- čas přidán 28. 07. 2024
- Sin is actually pretty good, don't believe Twitter
Intro: 00:00
01:17 vs levintime (May)
05:38 vs ItsMePugs (Zato)
13:27 vs PinneappleHour (May)
23:39 Winners semis vs lilslash (Ram)
30:29 Winners finals vs BLITZ | Riot (Axl)
39:52 Losers finals vs Lurry (Faust)
46:46 Grand finals vs BLITZ | Riot (Axl)
59:33 Glue tier list
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Dad taught Sin the importance of corner carry, Grandpa taught him about positive frames and mom taught him about setplay. Sin's always growing
Mom forgot to show on strive sadly
Very well said 🤣
@@walabixha1746 to be fair grandma also taught him setplay
@@hadal_hex Jack'O teaching Sin math through frame data
@@walabixha1746 el
5:01 "You can take my life, but you can't take my BURST!" - May Wallace, 2022
Whether he's good or bad the character is definitely sick as hell
I always felt bad for Sin getting the most disrespect out of all Strive characters
People also said Nago was Trash, HC was too hard, Stun Dipper sucks, etc. I usually find that whatever twitter says, the opposite is usually true.
Happy chaos is hard 😆. Alot of his optimal conversions are pretty execution heavy and if he loses neutral it minus we'll be ggs.
The only simple thing about him is probably his zoning.
@@spicyluvsyou and the zoning was the thing people hated the most. I'm not saying his optimal shit isn't hard, it's just that the part most people were annoyed with wasn't that hard.
@@KiskeFriedChicken he can't even do it consistently if he can't get wallbreak with super. He's not really someone you can just pick up and do well.
The opposite wasn’t true at all this time, sin really is struggling
Twitter this, twitter that, you definitely deserve whats coming.
Ggs ggs it was fun as hell🤜🏾🤛🏼i need to grind this MU lol
WHO said sin is trash? Downplayers never sleep lmao
Apparently peeps on Twitter. Like always lol
I should be surprised but this is the FGC where everything is absolute. A new character means he’s either broken top tier and needs to be nerfed or he’s trash bottom tier unviable and needs desperate buffs. I’m amazed these people are able to discern this without hesitation within a week of the characters release.
Every character is both the most broken one to have come out yet and an unplayable pile of garbage on release
I'm guessing you don't have twitter... so many people lol
I think people look at raw frame data and jump to conclusions without considering mindgames and set play. The dude has some fun and really easy mixes
You literally made me want to pick up this game again and this character. Wow.
I started off disappointed and not really liking him the first day or two. I've gotten more into the swing of things at this point and he is a fun character. Something I've noticed though are his specials seem to get stuffed really easily, I couldn't seem to get elk hunt or beak driver out much when playing against Bridget, Anji, anyone with forward moving specials. They seem to have priority unless they try and react super late and I hit them in startup frames. I still think he could do with just 1 more bar for his flag or actual regeneration upon eating but he isn't quite as bad as I first thought. At this point anyway maybe things will change once opponents learn the matchup a bit more.
You mean like Kickstart my Heart?
@@gidofter_lukge Exactly that yeah
you know diaphone i'll have to give it up for the glue teir list. it wasn't what i was expecting cause i was in your chat and knew of the glue eater meme you guys was rolling. that was a fun surprise and made the video for me lol
Maybe they'll have a better idea of how good he is after he's been out more then a week.
Ikr it’s hilarious seeing how people are trying to determine his strength despite him only being out for like 4 days lmaoooo strive players are very impatient.
Well they were right lmao
Yeees, was waiting for the video of the tournament :D
Watched your run on backpacks channel.
Cool to see your perspective here
Cool video and GGs on the tourney!
thank you so much for all you do just to entertain us !!
They also said this about Nago and Happy Chaos, and Ram, and..... .-.
Good part starts at 59:00
5:53 gives me Vietnam flashbacks from when i started playing, cause i played zato and my friends played sin
Biggest flex and I love it! Congrats!
The Glue Tier List was so funny!
Sin looks really sick. Definitely gonna try him out if I play Strive again (though I'd have to get the 2nd DLC pass).
YO! That mustache is looking great on you! Take care Diaphone_!
I like your mustache. Lookin clean!
i mightve clicked this for sin, but i stayed for the glue tier list
I just got this game at the end of January with goals of playing a local tournie in march. Wish me luck
his floor his high but his ceiling is definitely capped with recovery issues
Now do Potemkin.
Also, raw glue sticks are the ideal trail snack. Perfect for those long hikes.
I love Mays legally distinct version of "Lifestyles of the rich and famous" by good charlotte. It's always my dojo song.
niiice, always love seeing you optimize the newly released characters. Are u gonna replace bridget with him?
I love that the final boss of the tournament was maid outfit Axl
Nothing tickles my fancy more than dash canceling into throw after a blocked dp
None of these comments aged well💀
Diaphone really just nice like that 😭
That losers final was wild
It's almost like a few days isn't enough to get a full grasp of a character's placement in the meta or something. People are so quick to jump onto bad faith. Like the good ol' days where people that HC had a bad match up with Potemkin. True wild west days those were.
With the gift of hindsight twitter people were finally right about a new character, sin has been stuggling a lot. Ngl most of this tournament was just knowledge checks that people don’t fall for anymore nowadays
Bro you look so good with the mustache tbh
like the mustache, more than no moustache
19:30 pre patch beachball was one of the moves of all time
Diaphone looks like Luigi with the mustache
"I played a Guilty Gear tournament without bursting"
As I sin main i feel disgusted that I didn't relied I could chain 5K into 2D then DP. I'm even more disgusted with myself for not realizing that 5K is something I need to use more
Can't wait for Sin mods with the World Champion country flag
I watched the video for the tier list tbh
These comments did not age well
This is the most "CZcams" like title I've seen ona fgc vid Ina while 😭
Impressive for a title without all CAPS too
@@Diaphone LMFAOOO
Gotta ask, where did you get that wallpaper?
20:09 Holy smokes
why is he speaking from experience about the glue tierlist bruh 😭
Diaphone! When are we getting the Sin 101 guide!!
Soon :)
@@Diaphone From one fellow NJ guy to another thanks man you da real MVP. Always out here helping us learn the fun characters. We appreciate you!
May with the next level mindgames
Now he's better
He seems alright, but still disappointing to me. Wish eat was better. I like doing a setup move on oki and his mechanic isn’t really worth it. Far slash and beak driver being so punishable but other characters have such good far slashes also seems kinda wrong.
Diaphone showing again that he is simply the best
How long did it take you to become a top tier player at strive?
Paste!!!!
I have heard nobody say Sin was trash except Xrd players but like...isn't everyone toned down? Where have you been? Sin looks nasty between whiff punishing, mixup, and frame trapping potential
Yooo I was the zato ggs I flubbed that so hard lol
45:26 what happened to faust meter?
That's the most Sin thing to do.
Lower level scrubs always got an opinion about a brand new character..
Are these sets best of 5? Is this standard or just for online?
Standard for all tournies yea
11:37 The Eddie Space Program
Yeah, that's cool, but can you beat Daigo?
Least intelligent glue eater:
Yeah people were definitely dooming a lil hard. He has weaknesses but he's still a good character. Not super top tier but definitely not bottom tier garbage like some were saying.
He’s one of the best characters in the game
Question about DLC’s. How badly do skill gaps effect DLC characters? Like if the best ky player practiced with ky since guilty gear was released, and than the best sin player started practicing with sin since the moment his character was introduced, how long would it take for the best sin player to match the skills and experience of the best ky player?
How is it trash, his kit was awesome, I'm not even play competitively but yeah, the kinda new but old sin is kinda dope
34:00 what a guy
Elmer purple glitter is the best glue
Where's 👏 That 👏 Glue 👏Tier 👏List 👏 ?
Anyway, love your Sin and congrats for representing all glue eaters out there, we needed it
Sin literally looks so oppressive why are people calling him trash
Power of 5 year old UNLEASHED
Dont see enough people eating food :(
Sins not trash but you can clearly see they washed to gimp him for strive and I think they might of went to far.
Beak driver hurt box is at the tip of his flag
His food meter is to small for consistent pressure (all strive characters have consistent pressure strings)
RTL can’t be used as an ender for buttons that use stamina.
He needs some buffs
His mid range pokes and mix up options are fucking insane. His can literally out poke most of the characters in this game follow up with beaker driver and stamina follow up and corner carry at round start, and not to mention he has one of the best backdashes in the game. Sin does NOT need buffs but I do think his beaker driver hurtbox goes way too low and they should fix it but besides that he's a top tier for sure no buffs needed
Anyone worth their salt does not jump on the knee jerk responses of twitter and agree with their conclusions. So many people out here dogging on sin kiske like the man can't convert a whiff punish into a free wall break with RTL not to mention clean hit tyrant barrel does truck loads of damage when you kara cancel off of any of your specials.
Put some meat on those bones!
Forget the video I gotta comment on the title. Who was out here saying Sin was trash?
i dont think sin is trash at all. he seems pretty nice except his far slash. the startup and recovery are kinda harsh considering the buffs others characters got. that being said he has beak driver so eh it’s kinda whatever.
Strive twitter cracks me up, the character has been out for four days as of the writing of this comment and apparently he's trash
Twitter is a place where common sense goes to die.
I don't get how people are saying Sin is trash. He has pressure almost as good as Chip and high low mixups. 🤷🏼♂ 👀
After the framedata on dustloop got updated, I also think he's really good; he's got all the tools for different situations. It's not easy to play because his tools are somewhat specific (e.g. only 2P is actually 5f, while you can mash with more different stuff on other characters)
Not really? Most characters have one exclusive 5/4 framers. Only ones that have the privilege of multi mash are 3framers like Sol and Chipp.
I know nothing of this Game, but how could be he bad, he is hot af
He’s 5 years old…
@@bigw69420billion in what universe is that a 5 years old
@@PoroLover512 In the guilty gear universe. Since Sin quarter gear he ages very rapidly. His mom is like ten and is half gear
@@bigw69420billion bruh
OK but can you beat Goku tho
its like saying nago is trash on release.
Pays not to listen to people on twitter they also said Nago and HC weren't very good when people started playing them now they are the most oppressive characters in the game. People really should focus on developing characters first before making these claims.
Trash or not, he’s super fun
hes not bad
dude is way too fast for his own good
so we are gonna act like he is t the most simple character in the game?
is that the main criticism of Sin? i'm out of the loop, wondering why people think he's trash
@@tehjargonz0r seems like everyone is enjoying him for the most part but from my experience in game he Just has easy tools. longrange. very fast attacks and nonstop pressure while using about 3-4 attacks.
>twitter
WHO SAID SIN IS BAD??? THIS CHARACTER IS DUMB
It isn't that Sin is trash Twitter is trash with every character lmao
Sin is trash, but that doesn't mean he's useless.
Sin trash??? Like why??
who lied and said sin was garbage? bro is literally a mix god.
Copium on max settings💀
May has to be one the wackest character in Strive... the combo at 20:05 uses 2 fking moves and a super and it deletes a health bar. Idk, just feels undeserved. #fukMay
uh thats every characters whose only offense is strike/throw. sol may nago gio ky all do damage
It’s kind of her identity at this point. I both hate it and don’t mind.
How does winning using a character month one when no one had any matchup knowledge prove the point he isn’t low tier lmao? Also aged like milk, 4 months later and it’s even more accepted that he’s bottom tier
Bro Sin isn’t anything game changing but bro is nowhere close to bad
This video didn't age well at all because he's actually the worst character in the game as of right now
Not trash, he's jus basic af imo. Tho he's the least unique dlc character so far, he's still kind of fun 🤷🏾♂️
I don't see how he's less unique than baiken
@@hihihihihi7889 @Chris Alley her parry, her tether and her wall bounce air combo semi-reminiscent of Xrd (imo) would put her above him in uniqueness. Not by much tho
@@Swahmee_salami Baiken has some nuance stuff but like she’s incredibly bland and basic when optimized. And her neutral is incredibly boring as well to both play and watch imo. Mained her for awhile and it was tiring.
@@stairwaytoriven3823 I agree. All characters had so many things taken away from them
@@Swahmee_salami meh, diff game people gotta stop comparing it to xrd and look at it like a new title because not only did they make it grossly apparent that it’s gonna be developed for accessibility, but most the charas they brought over don’t play anywhere near like they did in previous titles lol hopefully they’ll add more specials soon maybe even in winter patch but can only wait and see heh