Deep Winter Hammock Camping System
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- A look at my cold weather winter hammock camping setup for backpacking trips with potential for sub-zero temperatures. www.sintax77.com
For an easier read, check out my full blog post here: www.sintax77.co...
Annnnd here's my seperate blog post specifically on the Hammock Gear Incubator and Burrow Quilts seen in the vid: www.sintax77.co...
Deep Winter Hammock Camping System Components:
Dutchware Gear Winter Vented Sock, 11.25 oz dutchwaregear....
Hammock Gear Cuben Fiber Hex Tarp, 5.75 oz (aka Dyneema Fiber Tarp) www.hammockgear...
Dutch Argon 1.6 Netless Hammock 10′, 10 oz
Hammock Gear Incubator 0° Underquilt, 25.35 oz www.hammockgear...
Hammock Gear Burrow 0° Top Quilt Wide, 26.4 oz (I went with the wide version for better coverage on tent trips where I may sleep on the ground. If you only plan to use yours in a hammock, you can probably do a standard width model) www.hammockgear...
Structural Ridge Line dutchwaregear....
Camo Polyester Tree Straps 12′, 4.9 oz dutchwaregear....
Aluminum Cinch Buckles, 2 oz dutchwaregear....
Climbing Grade Carabiners Rated 1,000lb+, 1.5 oz for the pair (In the video I’m using Dutchware biners that came with my Chameleon Hammock, but I also use Black Diamond Neutrino carabiners amzn.to/2DijPuV
Total Hammock System Weight: 1.75 lbs (793 grams)
Total Insulation System Weight: 3.25 lbs (1.47 kilos)
Shelter System Weight (tarp plus all lines & adjustment hardware): 8.75 oz
Deep Winter Hammock Camping System Grand Total Weight: 5.55 lbs (2.52 kilos)
Other Gear Seen:
Dutchware Chameleon Hammock System dutchwaregear....
Dutchware Summer Sock dutchwaregear....
Dutch Whoopie Hooks suspension system dutchwaregear....
Kammock Python Straps amzn.to/2FXHOBm
Not shown, but Dutch has a similar looped nylon suspension system as well called the Spider Chain dutchwaregear....
Dutch Titanium Cinch Buckles dutchwaregear....
Dutch Clips dutchwaregear....
Therm-A-Rest Z-Lite Sleeping Pad amzn.to/2BdUXm5
Klymit Inertia X-Frame Sleeping Pad amzn.to/2Dvvr0Z
Kelty Cosmic Down 0 Degree Sleeping Bag amzn.to/2DuEnnf
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I have been using over covers. But the sock is in my cart to try. It looks like a good setup and can see it will offer more cover and warmth. I will try it over my over cover setup. I have tried under quilts and find them massively inefficient compared to a good pad (R 7+). Pads are 10% of the space, weight, and have worked -20F and lower. No under quilt can do those temps. Plus the space savings.
Not nearly as important, but this has worked - I use a DIY double-layer vapor barrier inside, chest to head. Hang over the ridge line and velcro like doors around hips. It's virtually no weight or space, and adds a little warmth for breathing.
My non-hot hammock setup uses the warbonnet superfly, with the doors. It's been good even in seriously crazy winter wind storms. It's a good tarp.
If I can afford the weight and space, I also have a couple hot tent setups. I crapped on the idea of hot tents/hammock tarps for years, but finally got one and turns out, i'm sold. I have several now, and several titanium stoves to choose from. Hard to turn down that heat when you know the bitter cold is coming.
Great video. This is the exact system I've been using for the past two years on winter trips. I've tested it down to -2F and stayed comfortably warm during those LONG January nights. The nice thing about the sock is you can start the night with it around the foot area of your hammock and later pull it up over you as needed during the night if the wind kicks up or you just need a bit more warmth in the wee hours before sunrise.
From a nothern based Canadian that hammocks into the early winter, thank you. Thank you so much for this video!
+Danielle Patenaude You're quite welcome, Danielle. Stay warm out there.
When you’re at work and you “go to the bathroom” to watch a new sintax vid. Solid info. Still trying to get into the winter camping.
Im at work watching because I have to camp at work in the winter. Big snow coming Wednesday
This guy is the real deal. I’ve been watching his videos for last 2 years and he really has videos demonstrating all of the information he has shared here. Looking forward to more videos my man!
The owners of Hammock Gear and Dutch Gear are good people.
Worth every cent for their products.
It's always interesting to listen to South 49'er talk about cold.
I drop my tarp straight down and stake 3 corners. Leave one corner by your head end unstaked. Tie it to a branch or long stick. That allows for ingress and egress. Use a foil windshield sun reflector as a sleep pad. You will be surprised how warm it is . Put a piece of gorilla tape on the reflector, poke a hole in it, run paracord through it and tie it to the head of the hammock to stop it from sliding down. I trimmed it alttle to help it conform at the head end. No more cold coming up through head, back , or butt. Staking the sides straight down keeps the wind out yet breathes with some movement- no condensation. I also find trees closer together with a short hammock and hang it lower. Rode out a blizzard and temps in the 20s just as well as a tent.
I used the closed cell foam pad for the last 2 years and I have just purchased a 20* under quilt. I put the hammock up the other day while I was out of work due to weather in temperatures of 18*F with a 10 mph wind just to try it out. I was very pleasantly surprised in how warm that it was. It's a cheep under quilt with synthetic fill ($40), but I can't wait to go try it in the woods.
That's awesome. Welcome to the world of underquilts. If possible, try to lay in it and have some one else help fit it properly before your trip. It's hard to spot those potential draft spots yourself and they can make a big difference during those late night temp drops.
sintax77 Thanks!
Can I ask where you got your under quilt for 40 bucks? I'm looking for one on a budget. Thanks.
It was on Amazon. It"s not a cold weather Quilt, but it is good for 5^C -
20*C . (35-65 F) www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07589JM9Y/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I've probably overstated this but I love all the videos you out ranging from long backpacking videos to mail call.
You and Shug are my go to hammock resources, thanks again
Same here!
Shug rocks! This channel is pretty goot too. Thanks for sharing :)
Same
I'm not sure if anyone else mentioned in the comments, since I didn't read them all, but HG has the economy under quilts that are cheaper. I got the 20 degree for $180 and I love it. Good stuff. I made my own top quilt to save $$. It's a good option for people who can sew and have a lot of patience (stuffing the down was a major PITA). Hehe.
A system that keeps me cozy down to the twenties. Anything lower is too miserable when you have to exit the hammock, in my opinion. I use a double layer Warbonnet Ridgerunner Bridge Hammock with attached mosquito net. Insulating pad slid between the double layers, and a tarp or blanket thrown over the mosquito net to create a cozy pod effect.
Great video. Yeah: lacing the back of the quilt. For cold I have mostly returned to the basic mummy sleeping bag as opposed to the quilt. That way I can toss & turn without having to adjust the quilt over my back & getting drafts. The sleeping bag can mostly be used like a quilt, but for real cold I can zip in with a hood & engineered heat retention. I bet the quilt is much better in the sock though.
Good vid , thank you for that . I suppose we all in different age groups and economy thoughts buy and use different summer/ winter gear . Mine is fairly simple . For winter I use a warbonnet blackbird hammock , a bcusa 10x 12 waterproof tarp , a wiggys ultimate Thule hunter slpng bag , and a mil surplus 100% wool 6+ lb blanket ., plus one 28 x 72 inch thermal pad .ive NEVER gotten cold , not even down to -18 below zero . Is it a heavy rig to pack ? Yes . I'm 57 years old and I tend to sleep cold as it is . So I make certain I'm going to sleep warmly . If needed , I have a wiggys cocoon for my hammock , and as well I can step up to an Antarctic hunter bag . I've spent my time wet , cold and freezing. My butt off camping . Not happening any longer .but again my rig is not a light weight Trekkers rig . But it is a GUARANTEED. Warm , dry rig .
That span between the trees is huge. The Dutch winter sock is worth it's weight, great item. I can use my 20 degree setup with it and have gotten to 6-8 degrees.
The angle looks to be about 20 degrees instead of the desired 30 , but then I realized it just for demo purposes.
I couldn't agree more with your 10 degrees below the rating for the HG items. I have both the 40 degree incubator, and the 40 degree burrow, and take them down to the mid 20's and never had a problem! I ordered matching 0 degree models, and can't wait to get them in the mail. I'll be putting them to good use ASAP
Good info Syntax.... one thing I’d add would be a clean canteen hot water bottle, or any water bottle in a sock. It makes a world of difference. It also preheats your down, if place in prior to hitting the sack.
I've been down to -13°F with my UGQ 0°F (+5oz), with WL OldManWinter tarp, but I discovered that's the edge of the range for me, and I decided to be safe, I added my Reflectix pad, SeaToSummit Reactor liner, and WL Summer Quilt set (but not layered the way you'd think) Mine is slightly different in that i use a normal hammock as a gear hammock, suspended below (shared suspension). so I put the Reflectix pad in the gear hammock, but on top of the gear. my body weight nests down into the gear hammock so it actually serves as an additional insulating layer (but to be clear it's not a significant amount, ). I put my summer UQ on the gear hammock, and the summer TQ footbox snaps around both as an almost-cocoon (not over the head). I think for next winter, I might have a custom quiltset made... I like the two-layer concept, because i can get into my gear without exposing myself unnecessarily, and I'm a little claustrophobic, so I don't want a full on peapod, same reason I haven't tried a winter sock.
I just did my first winter camp last weekend in Ohio. And boy was that a challenge. Watching you vids made me look I knew what I was doing on the trail. Lol. But I survived -5F. Love your stuff man. Keep rocking on.
Thanks, Michael. You're a beast. It's been crazy cold in the east lately. Ouch.
sintax77 It was my first test on my gear I had. My under quilt was only rated for 40F and sleeping bag was 20F. Along with a camp pad from Walmart and a survival blanket. I realized that what really saved my butt was the clothes I wore. During the day the high was around 15F to 17F and low -5 with wind chill. Mind you I was burning up during the actual hike in and out but once we made camp and stop moving pretty much I was pretty comfortable temperature wise. Do you have any suggestions on gear you can wear to sleep in and hike with with out packing multiple layers or multiple outfits? Mainly for a overnight or two night venture. I found myself either getting to hot or to cold thru out the night which was a hassle.
Great info and really appreciate the explanation of gear used and why. I'm still a tent camper though have been looking at hammock camping for a while. The only thing holding me back - my body sleeping in an arc all night long and not able to turn on my side.
I'm still a ground dweller but you are consistently intriguing me.....Whites in Feb!!!
Hey Syntax, if you would consider doing a video explaining why you became a full time hammock guy for apparently all conditions, that would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for the great content!
I got the Superior Hammock with the built in underquilt & I think the sock could be beneficial in real bad blowing weather. I too like the pad for ground & got a womens thermarest r5.4 $134, 143 rei Backcountry. You would like it.
This is a cool (no pun intended) concept for a short (one night) trip. Longer than that, I'm not so sure about because of the logistics. Watching the video two things came to mind. The first one was, what does a person do with their boots? Leave them outside and there's the issue of putting on frozen footwear in the morning. Put them in the hammock with you and you are dealing with snow in your bed. I guess if a person brought a trash bag to put them in that would work. My second question was about personal hygiene. How does carry out the daily hygiene from inside a hammock, IE washing up, changing underwear, socks etc. Stripping down and changing clothing (socks and underwear) in a winter environment can be an issue in my neck of the woods where winter temps hit zero degrees F and lower on a regular basis.
Boots and other small items you don't want frozen (water, clothing, filters) can go below into the sock. This may lessen its effectiveness a bit but not much. Or you can always hang them from your ridge line if you don't mind having them inside with you. Changing is easier in a tent but totally doable in a hammock.
I love my Dutch winter sock. I bought mine after seeing your winter Dolly Sods video when you paired that with your 40 degree set and got down close to the teens and didn't wake up frozen the next morning. By the time you did you Washington ascent and had those 0 degree quilts you ready for real cold. One good tip for those that have top covers. 2QZQ makes underquilt protectors to go over your underquilt. Paired together and you have a two part "sock". Great video sir.
i like the idea someone posted to add a zippered underquilt protector for the chameleon. i have the same quilt setup sintax posted here but with 4oz of overstuff and damn is it warm.
I like the winter sock with the zipper add on idea.
PS........Loco Libre gear does quilts down to -40* 6 1/2 inch’s of down. For extreme trips.
Thank you for the info on the sock. I am switching from a ground to hammock system and want to get set up for cold weather backpacking. Thanks again and Happy Trails!
Dutchware and hammock gear , 2 amazing cottage vendors that have the best service in the business. Great video and overview of your kit. My 40 degree hammock gear set went down to 28 degrees with 54 mph winds, I did add a pad to my kit for that trip and was good to go.
The winter sock is my next purchase. For suspension I really like the the cinch bugs. I have titanium Dutch clips and bugs on dynema straps. Light and super strong.
There would appear to be little ventilation when using that sock design, especially if the small vent panel is turned away from the face. A lot of water vapor is released from the human body, especially in the breath. Without being ventilated, it will probably condense on any nearby cold surface. In cold weather, it might result in a layer of frost inside the sock. If the frost falls onto or into your sleeping bag and melts, it will lose insulation value.
I think the condensation problem could be prevented by using a thin space blanket (emergency bag type) as a sleeping bag liner, and somehow exhausting your breath directly into the outside air. I haven't used a space blanket as a liner, though, so I don't know what the result would be. It may be worth a try.
I wish Scotland had better hammock gear companies. It cost shit loads to have sent over then taxes. Albeit I’ve managed to get a 2nd hand 0degree -17celsius Sierra madre underquilt for a couple of hundred pounds. Great videos
Though I'm not a hammock camper, I enjoyed hearing your take on the cold weather setup. Looking forward to the next video that you do with Mike on your trip up north.
I don't know how much you check your notifications or answer questions, especially on these older videos, but here goes.......... I have a 10 degree top and underquilt AND an underquilt protector. I am looking to go for colder weather in my set up. With what I already have, would you recommend the vented sock OR a top cover. Oh, yeah........ I own a Dutchware Chameleon with a bug net. I keep going back and forth in my head between the two. After having watched this - I'm back to thinking a top cover should be my choice. Thanks. I love your videos.
Hammock Gear good gear. I use the 0 degree also. I could by with less I suppose but a 20 degree may be pushing it sometimes. One small thing teens for lows is pretty common here in NC. Here you never know been to 0 and below this winter a few times.
Very Good! Most of the time Shug doesn't use a winter sock and he really goes out in the cold. He likes to be able to see out of his hammock when in it. I still do the same as him. Now for gear videos our viewers go crazy because we are almost always switching or trying out new gear. You should see the pile of gear that I now have! I may have to start selling some of it! lol
Do not be surprised if you have frosting issues even in the bug netting portion at around 20 degrees depending on where you live. Out west, where the air is typically drying, you would have less of an issue. Shug does not use hammock socks because, at the temps he typically sleeps in, the interior of the sock will ice up and the ice crystals will snow down on your sleeping bag/quilt if you move.
Nice setup and both good companies. Here in Vermont sometimes I double up my zero quilt with my 20 to get me down to the -15 area. Looking forward to your next video. Take care, Al
For summer I simply replace the bedding . I use a snugpak jungle bag , a light weight wool blanket (opt) , my same wiggys sleep pad , a wiggys pillow . And , I'm good to go, I do an old school trick , right before I go to bed , I go take a dip in the cold water stream . Drop my body temp a bit , then , go get in jungle bag and sleep like a baby .
If you go to -20 and need a hot water bottle to keep warm, don't ask Mike to use his. I heard it may leak.
D Krane bahahahah😝
D Krane ............true!!!
Watching this makes me glad I moved to Hawaii lol, I dont miss the snow/cold even a little bit !
Gettin Radd & Fuggin Bustn I love your profile pic!
Virginia!
The only place where you can go through all 4 seasons in one weekend!
You can go through all 4 seasons is south eastern Michigan, it’ll start snowing early morning and end at 65F in the spring lol
I'm in Florida and it can get rather cool. I use a Big Agnes Q core SLX underinflated pad and a Snugpak (I know, cheap) over quilt. And was toasty in 40 degree nights. But, that being said, can a person go too warm on a under quilt? I'm looking at a UGQ under quilt for multi purpose hanging. Don't really have the money to purchase a few different rated UQs. I want to do it once. And I'll be camping in a few different states...like Minnesota.
Dream Hammock Sparrow, wide as possible, zip off top cover and zip off mosquito net.
Have you tried out the mummy pod system in the cold weather that outdoor vitals sent you. I think you would be totally happy with that... underquilt and a zip up top all in one. you wouldn't need to carry the winter top and underquilt and I believe OV's pod system is rated for zero... combine it with a tarp and you would have less equipment and be just as happy ....thanks for the video...greatly appreciated
Yes, it was my sleep system on the Abandoned Air Force Base Hammock Camping Trip video czcams.com/video/Ea8_A1qKcUg/video.html I'll be bringing it on the future trip mentioned in the vid as well.
I recently picked up the Econ Incubator 30 from my testing so far I agree with being able to take it lower than its rated for but I am a warm sleeper. I was iffy about going for the Econ series but figured it's Hammock Gear so why not. They really did a great job with that line. I will have to look into the sock option. Great video they way you approach any given topic has been helpful during this last year of beginning to hammock camp. 1 year in and I dread when I have to go to ground.
The econ series does look like it was a pretty smart move for Hammock Gear. They make great stuff, for sure.
Thanks for sharing and the lesson. You are a fine teacher. Live well. God be with you. Texas.
Idea, Design a thin gallium sponge layer and attach it to a foil survival tarp. The gallium sponge layer should absorb body heat and conduct it has the foil layer reflects that body heat back at the individual generating the body heat. In theory of course. 😊
I use a snugpack jungle blanket and a simple space blanket inside the hammock. works pretty good. then again im not scaling Everest.
I have a Lawson hammock been wanting to get into winter camping but un sure if what I have will be affective they do make a under quilt for it it's rated at 14 degrees and I've got a Nemo sleeping bag that's rated to 14 degrees it came with a rainfly that goes over it like a bivy but I've never used it I just use a regular tarp I bought off Amazon and it's always been fine... in the summer Lol thinking maybe though that rain fly might work like your hammok sock and trap the heat in, I'd like to have that set up though I can't really afford to start from scratch and my Lawson hammock if you're unfamiliar is more like a traditional yard hammock it has collapsible spreader bars and a bug net that's held up with poles I'm wondering if I use my wool blankets with my sleeping bag too if that'll keep me good at my goal Temps which are well below zero I know baby steps but in Michigan sometimes those Temps just come without warning
Great video sintax I actually got into hammock camping more just from watching ur videos and I made a cheap sleeping bag into and too and under quilt by cutting a whole in the feet and the head so then I can run my hammock through it ...yes I could go and buy the same set from outdoor vitals but I’m on a budget like everyone else but instead of spending 240$ on that I only spent 40$ ...but can’t wait to c ur coming up trip and have fun out there
That's awesome! Whatever gets you out there and comfortable, that's all that matters.
sintax77 very true very true ...just did a 8.5 mike hike and now it’s cheeseburger time duh duh tisshh
after watching the video i have a Cosco down quilt and was wondering about draping it over the ridge line and tucking it in on my sides. I live in California and my son takes us to Yosemite and it can get cold depending how high you go, not like you you of course. I thought that might add a little warmth. Bruce from the city of Orange in Orange county California
I'm not even a hammock camper but ,damn you explain that stuff good.. looks like you got a nice kit to for hammocking.. looking forward to more camping videos ..well done sir
2x black rubbish bags and it does the same thing but for 10cents and are waterproof
Great concept and great gear. Wish we could see you a little closer but I get the reason for the distant camera work.
I'm waiting for a 2 or 3 day trip. Get Mike out with you. Great channel
Sintax, have you found any issues without using the Chameleon hammock tie-outs while instead using the winter sock? If you could only pick the winter sock or the Chameleon winter top-cover, which would be the go to?
Have you decided where your winter solo trip is going to be? It’s been pretty cold on the east coast lately.
Debating on getting a sock. How much warmer is it than with just a top and underquilt?
I have a question about the sock. I recently got one so I can start winter hammocking, and so far my few back yard test runs in low 20F, have resulted in tons of moisture buildup inside, especially on my top quilt. So by the time I wake up, the entire top of my quilt is wet about 1/4 of the way down the length. I use a down quilt, so I’m really worried about the moisture especially doing multiple overnighters. So my questions are: do you experience moisture build up, and if so, how do you combat it?
Awesome video. I’m going to be testing out my winter sock soon for the first time.
If you could choose either the sock or the underquilt, which would it be?
Nothing like some good winter hangin!!
Great video and great info! That sock looks cool but being a Tennessee boy I’m thinking I can probably get away with the summer sock all year. Thanks for sharing
Yeah, the summer sock is a great way to turn a simple lounging hammock into a camping hammock, and during a cold snap you can easily flip it over and get a pretty decent warmth increase that would be just fine for down that way.
They don't make blankets like these any longer . These are the quality of the ones our great grandparents had ! And yes they are very tough made . Can be hand washed with woolite . Look at the wiggys videos on CZcams and see for yourself the difference in a Walmart/ fancy labeled bag , versus a police/ special forces bag. The sort and kind Jerry wigetow makes .
What everw happen with shara did we ever take that trip to Mexico???
I thought that was a pretty good explanation of your system. It's pretty much what I figured I would need to do for cold winter camping in northern Wisconsin. Nice video. Just subscribed to your channel. Hope it helps. I've been watching your videos on and off for awhile.
Do you have any ideas how to prevent frost inside the sock & isnt like a snow globe in it after you move?
Great work on video mate greetings from spain 👍👍
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Find a good seamstress at an alterations shop....Easy to add a zipper, or DIY
Looks similar to the Outdoor Vitals Hammock Pod.
Outdoor Vitals has the best prices around.
Ever consider hanging a uco candle lantern on the ridge-line? Think it'd give you much of a temp bump?
I do not like the tarp doors: seems like way too many cords & fabric blowing around, tangles & stakes. The sock can deflect that bit of snow dust & mist that slips past that well set hex tarp.
Hi there, what do you think of a double layer Cameleon? Would you find it useful to put a mattress for insulation ?
Have you ever tried using a insulated klymit V, covers sides and everything. I've heard a lot of people say they stopped carrying under quilts in lieu of carrying the klymit. Syntax77
For winter socks or pods or any of the extras that go around hammocks in the winter, does that affect the ability to lay asymmetrically? Does it tend to want to force you into the banana shape that can be rough on the back?
I have a Dutch Chameleon with winter cover and love it...tried it at 15 degrees and kept lots of warmth in...do u think this sleeve keeps u warmer then the cover? Get’s cold here in Maine and I enjoy winter camping ...this is second year with a hammock...looking at all my options...thanks love your videos 😀
The cover is great. It definitely retains extra warmth without much extra weight and bulk (I think the solid cover is lighter than the bug net, actually). I definitely notice even more warmth with the sock though. Especially when pushing quilts beyond their temp rating. I took a pair of 40° quilts down to 15° using the winter sock, a hot water bottle, and a lightweight fleece blanket. At time I was not ready to invest in the zero degree quilts, so the sock kept me in the game for relatively low cost.
Nice Video, yes bring that sock, don’t freeze!
You’re awesome. I love all your videos. I love seeing hammock set ups. This looks amazing. I’m trying to decide on an under quilt. I think this helped me. Thanks
Do you use a sleeping bag with both quilts?
Great vids..I’ve been backpacking for years but recently ordered a hammock as the older I get the worse I sleep on the ground. I ordered a chameleon and trying to decide on tarps....I mainly hike the southern AT fall, winter and spring with an annual trip out west usually Co....do I need doors on the tarp? I’m planning to order a HG Phoenix 20 UQ to pare with my EE 10* Enigma.
Man!!! That's a great "bearrito" ;p Comfy looking system, sir. Thanks for the info.
I just sleep on the ground like a filthy animal. Nice video though!
sleeping next to the Earth is really dope.
Another great video... I have the Enlighten Equipment top quilt and love it. Am I missing anything form Enlighten to Hammock Gear? I think you tried both, but I see you are using HG.
Hey Sintax,. Did you see my comment for your double hammock set up with the orange screw?
Love the idea but these things kill my back, i need a hard surface to keep my back in order.
Do you have any thoughts on using a partial underquilt in deep cold? I once had a 0-degree Incubator, but there's a lot of down and extra bulk that you're not utilizing while in the hammock.
Enjoy your vids...I recently bought a chameleon and debating the winter top cover to pair with my 20* HG UQ/TQ for Cooler weather here in south east avg teens to 50’s..is it woth adding?....I see Dutch has a few options now....thoughts...the original is lighter with a small asym mesh vent...thoughts?
Having a hard time listening how warm will it keep me 1 problem I have to lay down to keep warm looks like you need to with something else
sintax77,
How much condensation builds up inside the sock? I don't like being wet at all!
I personally haven't really had much of an issue with condensation at all. I just avoid sleeping with my head too close to the fabric. They do make something called a "frost bib" that can help with that in for extreme cold situations, but I haven't found a dire need for that.
Great video man! Looking forward to the trip vid!
Thanks, hopefully it will be a fun one :)
Look at that sky !!!
Nice work on the grading👍 kinda off topic but you would probably do very well if you had a channel on video production tips and tricks. Not that you need another channel taking up more of your time 😉 vids are top notch my friend 👍
Thanks so much. This video answered a lot of questions.
Nice video but I went on Dutch Gear and as with other hammock sites it's so complicated... option after option after option I just get fed up and quit. Wish there was a simple set up and purchase option for people who just want to get into this, instead of symmetrical, asymmetrical, left lie, right lie, fixed ridgeline jada jada jada
Thanking about getting me a nice setup for Hamic camping
love your stuff as always thanks for all your hard work! long time sub you have motivated many people to start there own channels. thanks for such a great channel.
Thank you very much for your informative video always greatly appreciate them can't wait for another long solo vid enjoy your day later on keep on hiking
Hey Sintax....am soon to order the Chameloen from Dutch, great videso and recommendations....was what led to my going Dutch so to speak... would you see the winter sock better than the second chameleon outer cover and winter top cover with moonlight vent? am not sure what direction to go... chameleon w/o secondary body cover, under quilt, winter cover, winter sock or secondary cover...at the moment it looks like teh best bet will be UQ and winter sock....and skip the winter cover....sounds like the winter sock is better re condensation than the winter cover....would be interested in your opinion.... p.s if you do a Germany hike/camp please let me know....
The integrated top cover is more convenient, lighter, and has a slicker look. Warmth wise though, I personally think the sock retains more, since it fully contains you _along_ _with_ the underquilt. With a top cover, the underquilt is still exposed, allowing air and wind to hit it and bleed of retained warmth.
What would you recommend synthetic wise for someone who is allergic to down?
Great system and very well explained.