Come on Sega! We Want A Master System Mini - Personal & Viewer Choices!
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- I'll keep beating this drum until someone at Sega listens. We want a Master System Mini!
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MS, DC, and Saturn minis. We want em all.
SATURN MINI!
I think DC and Saturn would be expensive AF.
@Benjamin Jagun the console did have YM2413 FM audio for some games via a FM Sound Unit attachment for the Mark III
DC mini is already here-Nvidia Shield 2017 with Redream😅😅
@@Raphael_De_La_Ghetto not really. We want a miniature console (controllers and all), not just be able to play the games.
A master system mini would be nice
A secret move in choplifter……when landed and picking up people,keep tapping up every other couple seconds. If you’re even off the ground for a fraction of a second, it resets the timer for when the tank enters the screen from the left or right. If you’re never on the ground for more than a couple seconds, the tank will never come
Master system was my first console, was the only kid in the neighborhood with one, and followed that with a tg 16 which made my house quite popular as a child! Great video my friend always look forward to your content!
I only knew 2 other kids with SMS and loaned games to each other, we were proud to be the odd ones out! I still like NES though, wish I could have had both.
Wow! How did that happen? I have the sense that your family based its gaming choices on the capabilities of the hardware, and not the popularity of the characters alone. Is that right?
@@matthewpordes3224 yes, exactly! I asked for an NES for Christmas, then when Christmas came I opened the box and said "What is this thing?!" My father said he was at the store and compared the two and the SMS had superior graphics. Anyway, I made the best of it and still enjoyed it. I got to play NES at friends houses. But I always wondered what NES games I would have beaten had I got what I asked for Christmas....
@@matthewpordes3224 my dad was the one in charge of making the gaming choices and enjoyed "smoking" and story goes he was baked and played the kiosk sample and was blown away by the systems lol
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I got both my Nes and Master System on Christmas of 1986. I loved them both and became a Sega fam for life because of the Master System. This is partly why I chose to get the Genesis in 1989. The other reason is right from the onset of the 16-bit wars the Genesis came out way ahead of the TG-16 in pure hardware muscle.
I lived it and I can tell you from real experience on actual hardware that pound-for-pound Sega flat ran away with the show. Does that mean the TG-16 was a bad machine? Absolutely not. NEC/Hudson did not understand the US market like Sega did. Their game selection was quite a bit smaller, the TG-16 cost consumers more, it was hard to find games for it, and 9 times out of 10 the Genesis won the day with superior graphics. Yes, there were a couple of games that looked better on the TG-16 but that was very rare.
Dude....keep the long vids coming! The arcade to home port vid held me down for a 12 hour work day. I painted a whole house interior listening to your content. Great job. Very relatable and great detail and an awesome flashback.
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This. I'm with you brother
You put me in the state of Nostalgia with this particular video. It's fun hearing that familiar and bright, bing-and-dings, in the music that Master System games has. It's hard to describe, but if I close my eyes, I'll be able to tell a Master System game by the way the music sounds. Thanks for this!
Ah Zillion,what a gem of game.I remember it from my youngest days.It took me some time to figure out how to play it!
I’m not going to rest until Sega releases a mini version of all their consoles! SG-1000, MS, Saturn, Dreamcast, Pico, Game Gear, etc etc
Game Gear Micro is a thing, btw, but I know it doesn’t count,
Probably better off getting a Pi, 3d printer, and making your own
Totally agree! SEGA has completely forgotten its 8-Bit catalogue while so many of us are in love with them. Even Sonic Origins doesn't include the 8-Bit games 😒
It really was only semi popular in Japan, Brazil and Eu.
@Benjamin Jagun Ever heard of the FM Module for the Mark III?
@Benjamin Jagun I usually agree with your comments Ben but not this time. You obviously never had a Master System growing up? The Master System had a beautiful sound! 3 PSG square waves and an awesome noise channel which at times sounded really good. The Japanese stuff tends to sound really tinny at times for sure but try the European stuff on the system, more C64 type sounds and If it's bass you're after, have you ever tried listening to some of Matt Furniss's work on the system? He used that periodic sawtooth wave alot in his music instead of white noise and created drums out of squares and at times it created a decent amount of bass for the audio. I recommend listening to Alien 3, Road Rash, Back To The Future III, Lemmings, Global Gladiators and Daffy Duck In Hollywood.
@Benjamin Jagun How intelligently put.
Especially when you're from North America and the NES was overwhelmingly the dominant 8 Bit system. I can guarentee you if i asked some random people here who aren't gamer wouldn't even know the SMS existed.
I honestly feel this will sell in a big way if done right because there are so many people collecting and playing the master system in this era.
I don't know man. It wasn't big in the states and I don't think they will sell enough to make it viable. As a gamer I'd want it definitely though.
The lack of 3rd party support really damaged it too. The Master System had so much more potential and so much more to give. Imagine what Konami or Capcom could have done with it.
@@19822andy I find it baffling that it wasn't visible at all over there, I know Nintendo had the monopoly but to not even be able to get shelf some shelf space in shopping centres your size?! (I'm English so I refuse to say malls!). Growing up, I knew more kids who had master systems than NES's...The other ting is I watched a Gamesack one where Joe went through every master system game. Theres so many great ones that they didn't even release in America. I just kept thinking but yeah he'll get to this or that soon...! But no.
The thing that i would say though is (and I absolutely loved mine!) Sega would have to do something about the pads, The D-pad was just so squishy. Sega obviously made amends for that when the megadrive came along...
@@mattjames6349 I'm from the UK too and there was only 1 more kid that I knew that had a NES besides me. Loads of kids had master systems back in the day. One of my pals wouldn't let me play Psycho Fox and it used to really piss me off lol.
Some of it's games looked 16 bit at times and I can't understand why it didn't gain more popularity in the states neither. It was cheaper, was more powerful and could display more colours than the NES. I guess it comes down to how the consoles were marketed after the crash of 83.
I see everyone’s point. I get it. What I have been seeing though people wanted something different besides collecting for the nes and snes, so people started to collect on genesis and I know a lot of people who have got into the master system in the last five years or so because it’s something different.
I have mine and a multicart for it. I did own the us library but sold it at the right time.
I honestly think it will go pretty big since so many never tried it or never knew sega made the master system
@@19822andy i didnt know the Master System was real until i had gotten in into the PS1
Ya know....10 year ago I had to sell my entire collection because of life. And to this day iam very greatful for emulation.
Soon I will be in a much better position than I was , provided things keep going like they are..
I am tempted to start buying all these console minis as a momento too what I usee to have... but yea a master system mini is a no brainer.
Played and completed Ghouls 'N' Ghosts on the Master System as a kid. Loved the different weapons and the variety of stages, along with the overall feel of the game. I think it's definitely worth including on a Master System Mini if it ever becomes a thing.
This needs to happen. It's time the Master System got its due
You addressed Rambo, included Rastan, and overall made some solid Sega-owned choices.
Loving these longer videos I can avoid work with. Thanks for the video man. Appreciated
As someone who grew up in the USA in the 80s I agree this needs made for game preservation if nothing else. Master systems were rare over here so not many people got to try out the library.
Still never seen one, in OHIO
All sms games as already been preserved online.
@@hpickettz34 true but how many of them are official released? I like to support developers when I can
@Benjamin Jagun you make valid points. I still would probably buy a mini console if it was released.
@Benjamin Jagun I like the sound personally, it's unique. There's just something about it that makes me really want one. Of course the NES dwarfs the library of the sega master system, but it also has it's own good games that are worth playing.
New subscriber here.Found your videos and blew me away😁 rally love your content and got me back into Sega Mega drive/master system
Excellent video and follow up. Even if the Master System Mini never comes out this is an amazing video showcasing many great MS games to play on the MiSTer FPGA, or emulation box, or on an everdrive on OG hardware. Love this video, thank you!
Man, I'd kill for a SMS mini!
I’m hopeful that the fact we’re even getting a Genesis Mini 2 is at least somewhat of a good sign. Keep it up SEGA, we want them ALL! ❤
This definitely needs to happen!
I would like to have a Master System Classic Mini with these games included!!! This selection is great!!! Excellent choices, Sega Lord X!!!
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Amazing video, I loved the master system growing up. SEGA MAKE CONSOLES AGAIN!
Great list, many good memories. 👍
It's crazy that there were Master System games bigger than early Genesis games.
I love how this is basically the previous two videos on this subject stitched together into a new video - because it's another opportunity to show Sega we are excited about this. I've watched all three videos and I'll do it again if it gets a Master System Mini! Keep 'em coming!!
(Also, if it does happen -big if- it HAS to have The Ninja!)
Games I Loved Back in the Day that I want on a Mini:
The Ninja
Hang On
Zillion
Zaxxon 3D (Had a 2D option)
Choplifter
Pro Wrestling
Columns
Alien Syndrome
Ys Vanished Omens
Maze Hunter 3D (Had a 2D option)
Games I Didn't Play Originally that I want on a Mini:
Phantasy Star
Golden Axe Warrior
Fantasy Zone
Asterix
Wonder Boy in Monster World
Thunderblade
Penguin Land
Alex Kidd
Kung Fu Kid
King's Quest
OTHER:
Hell YES, the snail game should be included!
ALL of the card games should be included - they were small roms. They weren't amazing, but I'd love to play Ghost House and Trans Bot again.
Absolutely right that they won't/can't do shooters or 3D games. BUT if they could, then Missile Defense, Safari Hunt, Gangster Town and Space Harrier 3D would be great.
Finally, I hope I never play SMS Ghostbusters ever again. IMHO It was the epitome of the kind of thing you hoped would be good, were excieted to play, and ultimately disappointed.
I thought I'd seen this before, now I know I have 😄
If no one else has mentioned this yet, besides the fact that R-Type was a surprisingly good arcade port, there was also a hidden bonus area in the shooter.
I just can't help but wonder how well this would sell. Could they even move 10k units? Especially in NA where Nintendo dominated. It would be cool don't get me wrong. I would love to add one to my mini retro system collection.
Units sold doesn't equal interest. We couldn't afford every system back in the day, doesn't mean we didn't want them. I had a N64 and way later a PS1 but never had a Saturn as a kid, but not for lack of interest. Same for SMS, I didn't know it existed until I was an adult, but as a Sega fan I'd be interested.
I think the low sales figures mislead people because I'm not convinced they reflect interest innthe product very accurately.
@@Vulpas true but projected sales do influence a company's desire to manufacture a product. I feel like we have already seen the retro mini consoles Sega will release. They choose the two consoles that had the best chance of selling well. Were they planning to release additional consoles we would have heard something about them by now.
@@AE780 True. I do think Dreamcast has a good chance to get a mini though. I can see a 25th anniversary celebration including one.
@@Vulpas I hope your right. I need more mini consoles for my collection. I have nes, SNES, genesis, turbografix & ps1
@@AE780 Yeah, N64 would be great too.
"...not including this [Alex Kidd in Miracle World] would likely cause death threats to Sega of Europe" is a hilarious line, because it's true.
It's not true though. It was a joke made in bad taste. An Alex Kidd remake was released a while ago and went by relatively unnoticed. Alex Kidd is to the Master System what Floigan Bros is to the Dreamcast or what Clockwork Knight is to the Saturn, i.e. a non-essential game.
In Europe AKIMW is arguably the systems most defining title. It was built-in to the world's best selling edition of that console and a disappointing remake no-one asked for not setting the world on fire has no bearing on SLX's correct assessment of how loved the game is in this part of the world.
@@Fattydeposit The remake was faithful to the original. The 65% score that it has on Metacritic reflects the poor quality of the original game, which has aged badly. Sonic completely replaced Alex Kidd as Sega's mascot and people would be more upset, if one of the Sonic games was missing from the MS mini.
@@Marcus_K I don't agree. Alex Kidd in Miracle World was built in to every original Master System II and as a result had a higher attach rate than any other SMS game. And for a built in game, it was of very high quality. I knew one person who had that one game and nothing else.
@@OldAussieAds Agree entirely! And it's an easy game to make a hack out of.
I'd like a Dreamcast or Saturn mini
The UK and US were like alternate realities in the 80's - we (UK) all gamed on pc's in the mid 80's (commodore 64, Zx Spectrum and Amstrad). When the Sega Master system launched it was extremely popular and we'll loved it!!
The Nes only realy gained sales once it was sold alongside the Snes as a budget console, in fact, here both 8bit systems were sold alongside the Megadrive and Snes throughout the 16bit era!
Que consola maravillosa!! El Castle of ilusión!! Que juego maravilloso, tuve la suerte de poder jugarlo, y terminarlo. Una gema atemporal!!
Pedazo de juego. Me lo acabé en la época y hace poco me lo volví a acabar en el emulador.
I'm skeptical due to the way these minis seem so geared at the markets where the Mark III/Master System performed the worst (would Japanese or American versions even turn a profit?), but I suppose one can hope.
Thanks for continuing to beat the drum on this. I was involved in a petition to Sega about making a Sega Master System Mini not long before the first announcement came about the Mega Drive/Genesis Mini 2. Sadly an SMS mini keeps falling on def ears.
Batman Returns for the Master System would be a cool choice. I always liked that game.
We enjoyed watching this video. Thanks
50 min video :O Nice
edit: And still I am surprised when I hear the 49:00 outro lol
That would be nice I've been waiting for A Master System mini for a long time.
Was excited to see Golvellius and Power Strike get some love on here! I own both of these CIB, and they are among my many retro game treasures. :)
Dear Sega Lord X for all your lovely Videos about Sega and its awesome Consoles! My Favourite and First Console was the Sega Master System and till Today i am in Love in the Sega Master System and it's Games. I am very happy that u Make a Video about oir wish for a Sega Master System Mini!!! SEGA MUST DO THIS FOR US🌹🌹🌹👏👌. Best Regards
Now we're talking! The first ten games I want to see are: Kung-fu Kid, Black Belt, Ghostbusters, Out Run, Spellcaster, Rambo, Afterburner, Quartet, Gangster Town and Hang-On. Bonus Titles: Pro-Wrestling, Wonderboy III: The Dragon's Trap and Zillion II: Tri Formation
It is a crime that Quartet wasn't included in this video and a total shame that it's never been released or built upon with subsequent titles. It remains forgotten.
Agreed with you my man, it is time and also overdue I might add!
This needs to happen I never even knew that the Master System existed until high school I had an NES back in the day and would have loved this. Please Sega give us this or at the very least a compilation on the Switch with a wireless controller. I really want to play some of these missed games.
I would love to see a Master System Mini, for no other reason than to show the masses how great of a system it truly was. I had an NES at the time, but I was about the games, so I had the Master System as well, and I loved it just as much if not more than the NES because of the games you just couldn't get elsewhere. I'm sure with the poor sells of the US version, that might give Sega pause, but there were other places were the MS had almost "god" status, so who knows if they would offer a Mini or not. And after that Game Gear crap they offered, if their gonna do the Master System dirty like that, I say don't bother. But I would still love to see it, as the Master System was AWESOME!!!
What we really want is a Saturn Mini. But great video as always!
Tectoy going strong with the retro Master System and Genesis (Mega Drive) here in Brazil! Just got a Genesis a couple of years ago, with great titles in it!
I would see the Sega Master System having SG-1000, Sega Mark III, Master System, and Game Gear games altogether on the Master System Mini since all 4 of these consoles are 8-bit and work with each other’s notable hardware (controllers, cartridges, etc.)
Agreed, as the 2nd best selling SEGA, The Master System mini is long overdue. Saturn and Dreamcast can wait, most don't even know what they are
Love the soft double dragon theme music @02:17
I would love a Master System Mini. It's just a great old-school system to have in that form, with games people need to have a chance to try.
It's almost mandatory that they produce a M.S.M. I would pre-order in a heartbeat.
MSM agrees 😬
It's wild how great some of these games look. It's apparent that Nintendo had a stranglehold on the market because Master System could have been so much more popular during that time
Decades later it's easy to get the illusion that third party games were system's sellers, but it wasn't true, back then. The Nintendo exclusive games, specially the Mario Bros. series, were what made the vast majority of kids to want a NES, in the first place. As Sonic was the franchise that gave the Mega Drive its powerful boost.
@@HeathenDance Depends on the country, Nintendo wasn't that common/popular in parts of Europe and that is where Sega shined, that didn't mean people didn't want the NES just most people didn't really care outside of Mario, TMNT and the few that knew of it Zelda
The SMS DOMNINATED in Brazil, where it's still made today, and was extremely popular in Europe.
Sega just killed master system themselves though, they didn't bother gathering third parties to increase the console's library.
@@myflyisopen.8732 It was also popular in Australia and New Zealand.
Absolutely!! To be this is a big missing console and loved playing master system with my cousin as a kid.to me this system was huge and I've wanted in mini form for years at this point
A mini console with Master System casing and
Master System, Game Gear and MegaDrive/Genesis games. A real Sega museum.
We sure do, Sega. And this is an awesome list. Every single one please, thanks bye.
Alright: tonight I am going to place a "SEGA LORD X" folder on my MasterSystem Everdrive and try them day by day.
Thank you!
The Japanese version of Genesis mini with MUSHA had me crying 😆😆😆
*”..there are enemies just jonesing for a chance to smash your unborn prodigy.”*
The correct term in that context would be ‘progeny’. Unless they’re especially gifted.
The flash was awsome to. Just the 8 bit sounds bring back memories
I never grew up with the sega master system, I never even known anyone who actually own one back in the 80’s.
I definitely want a sega Saturn and dreamcast mini that’s for damn sure!
There is always a group of games I can show friends around my age and they quickly get nostalgic. Games like Wonder Boy (Master System), Kung-Fu (Nes), California Games and so on.
These mini systems are great for those without a pc for emulation. Nostalgia is a powerful thing.
I hope we get this from Sega. My late friend and I had Master Systems and would borrow each other's games all the time. Another friend liked the controllers so much he bought one for his Commodore 64. One game you missed was Parlour Games. I still emulate that one regularly for the billiards and darts.
If they do in fact make this they got to have like an animated promo from like JG Quintal of regular show.
It always made me smile when I saw that little system on the screen
Since watching your videos about the master system, Ive come to appreciate that system a lot more. Games like master of darkness, or rampage, or double dragon. Just got into miracle world as well, but I doubt your going to see a mini anytime soon. But there's always hope, guess we all all have to take a wait and see attitude with sega
Sega needs to release an arcade cabinet like the Walmart Arcade1up cabinets with all their classic arcade games. Id buy that for a $
Absolutely baffled by the lack of love for Double Hawk! An absolute belter of a two player shooting game!
If you've not tried it, do so. Sank so many hours into that back in the day.
Pro Wrestling was great! The great thing about it is that is plays more like a beat-em-up and you can play 2v2 or 2 player co-op if you hand off the controller for a tag in!
I am ok with a 3-D glasses made of paper (with the right design)
Mark III Mini has a great ring to it, makes me wanna spend money haha
I appreciate the 4K uploads -- as I know they take a lot longer to upload.
22:26 "I'm no fan of Psycho Fox"...a man after my own heart.
Up until a few months ago I would have agreed about Sega not making (or making it compatible with existing) special extra peripherals like an HDTV light gun or some sort of 3D glasses, but after they announced that Cyber Stick for the Mega Drive Mini 2, which costs twice as much as the MD Mini 2 itself, now I think Sega is capable of anything!
A bonus game I'd love to see on a Master System Mini is a new Master System version of Sonic Triple Trouble with an FM soundtrack.
I totally wouldn't complain if they added some Game Gear and SG-1000 games as bonuses. The GG Micro was a misfire, and the SG-1000 is never gonna get its own Mini by itself, so might as well include all the best of Sega's 8-bit home history in one place.
Here is what they need to do. Release a Mini Handheld/Console Hybrid that includes both Sega Game Gear and Sega Master System games. Call it the Sega Exodus to connect to the Genesis name, and to symbolize the freedom of a console that is also portable.
My God, brilliant
Awesome vid.
SLX, if there's one thing I've come to expect from SEGA is that they will disappoint you. We'll probably get a Genesis/MD 3 mini (which most people didn't even know existed) and several reissues of the Genesis/MD 1 & 2 before they release a Master System, Saturn or Dreamcast Mini.
With the prevalence of streaming/cloud gaming it's a lot more profitable for them to keep reselling these games digitally than offering consumers a chance to just fire up and play them locally.
Dude I love your videos I've have currently added games to my megadrive mini and is currently on 160 games and room for more I've also put some Master system games on there too
As per the norm, great video
Great video SLX! I would take absolutely any combination of these great titles for a Sega Master System mini. If Sega didn’t want to do it themselves, I’d love for them to let Blaze make Master System cartridges for the Evercade handheld(s) and VS system. That would be amazing!
double dragon 2 player coop, shinobi, black belt, alex kidd in miracle world S2 love it. Also sonics is worth playing
I too would love a master system mini with all the European and Japanese games too. If it looks like the american Model 1 master system, with the trapper keeper design, I would buy it. 🙂
I have a feeling that the likelihood of one would be quite low as the master system/mark III didn't have much of a splash in the Japanese market sadly
Streets of Rage, Double Dragon and Astro Warrior are about the only SMS games I remember playing as a kid and those would be a blast for me to play again. I also would not complain if they included some Compile shooters 🤘
I would definitely love to a Master System mini!
I collect Sega master system 👍 Childhood memories..Greetings from Norway 🇧🇻
Bruh that black belt boss battle music is legendary
The Game Gear Mini is honestly what I've come to expect from modern Sega. So be careful what you wish for, you just might get it.
Choplifter III and Baku Baku Animal were favorites of mine on the Game Gear as a kid. I rarely see them mentioned and consider them to be hidden gems. I never did have a Master System though.
I know most people wouldn’t like it but I would love a master system 2 mini as it was my first console and I loved it and still have the console to this day with a heap of games.
I own two game gear micros. The screen is perfect and they are fully playable. Pick one up, you might like it
in Brazil, Master System is still on sale :V
There are some solid games included, in this list.
Thanks for mentioning the snail game. Would like to see Sega release compilation of systems other than the Genius.
'the ninja' and 'action fighter' are two musts for me.
I love to see these games by Sega
I can't believe how good road rash looks
12:08 Road Rash and other 3D games use the powerful 16-bit RISC Video Dispkay Processor to push the limits. Obviously, the Z80 is used to modify both the X and Y coordinates of the background on every scanline to get those ground moving effects, but 3/4 of the power of SEGA systems are the VDP/GPU.
I would love a Master System mini!!