New Synology Bee Station Review - did Synology nail it?
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- čas přidán 24. 06. 2024
- This video is a review of the new Synology Bee Station which came out today. I will be reviewing the features, usability, and who this product is for.
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TOC:
00:00 Introduction
02:39 Product overview
04:15 Setup overview
05:47 Who is this for?
08:13 BeePhotos
10:08 BeeFiles
14:13 Settings
16:05 SMB
18:52 SSH
20:44 Final thoughts
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Great review! Thanks as always
You're still one of my favorite people to watch on YT, and I even watch on 1x 🤣Always enjoy the content!
the stress on watching on 1x is hilarious. i watch too much stuff on 2x as well.
Great video, as always. You suppose there is any way to have it backup or sync, remote to another synology like i can with my DiskStation?
This would be useful for my family to use for primary photo, pc backup. I can then use my DS920+ for surveillance station and a geographically isolation backup to Bee. To confirm Hyperbackup can be programmed to backup Bee to DS920+?
Any chance on doing a video setting up the family sharing aspect? Thanks!
I got a Synology diskstation a year ago and had a hard time configuring it. I love and hate the amount of settings at the same time. Probably the beestation would have been a good alternative for me.
Thanks for the explanations.
Same here. This is exactly what I wanted and needed. The only concern is that if you dont have a secondary backup in some way if you lose the device - eventually that single disk is going to fail and then what ?
I wish i knew about this before i spent the money i did. I dont really know how to use my NSA. I don't have time to invest in learning. I probably just wanted a Bee Station
Thanks, Will. I know a few people for whom this would be an ideal solution, despite a few very minor limitations 👍
Wish I would seen this last week when I started to set up my first Synology NAS. Have had nothing but problems and hours and hours of troubleshooting. For a user like me this looks like what I really needed but with $500 invested in a NAS I guess it’s too late. DAM!
Sorry to hear that. It can be a fun hobby but it really is that, a time consuming hobby. Synology hardware holds its value pretty well so it might not be a bad idea to consider selling and purchasing this instead.
Did you follow SpaceRex's tutorials on here? They are essentially foolproof, maybe you can go back and start from scratch?
I bought a Synology DSj120 back in January. I got it working but it was really slow. BlackMagic read write gave me 7mbs, I had to wait for tech support to set up a case # and then call me. Well I am at work and not able to be at home waiting for a tech to help me out. I returned it. I am sure I did not know what all the setting were for and the speed was due to me. I was used to an Apple Time Capsule that died. Can you use this with a mac and Time Machine? What are the expected read and write speeds?
I was interested, but my boy said, it’s a dumb down version😮. Got to rethink it! Thanks for the video.
How would you use this with apple photos? You manage the photos only in this NAS?
I might purchase this just to auto backup important folders on my Synology NAS. Is that possible, or is this just for backing up desktop OS?
Great question! This would be my most wanted use case as well!
With the demise of the Apple Time Capsules a few years ago, that left a number of my friends and family without automatic time machine backups of their Macs. I told them to get a small external drive and plug it in every day or week to do a back up, but most people don't do it. So to me, this seems like it would be a great Time Capsule replacement if it can be easily set up to do Time Machine backups. It would be worth it just for that. When you spoke briefly about the SMB section you kind of breezed by the fact that it is set up to do Time Machine if this is enabled. Can you please do a quick tutorial on how to set one of these up to act solely as a Time Machine back up? I think you would be doing many of us a service in doing that. Thanks!
I'd like to know this too - can it be setup to do TimeMachine for all the Macs in my family?
I am now starting my research into storage and now that Drobo has gone this drive is interesting.
I’m really torn whether I should get this or a DS224+ for my parents. They would have zero intention of learning about the ins-and-out of the NAS software so the simplicity factor is meaningless. I almost feel a DS224+ is the far better option so I can setup SHR and a VPN server to remotely fix anything that needs it.
I am probably your parent’s age and somewhat technically experienced. Bought a DS223j 4 days ago. Spent the last 4 days and over 20 hours of frustration plus many CZcams videos trying to get it set up and working only to have it crash. Now can’t even log into it. Save your parents the frustration. A SSD and cloud service would be easiest, seems like beestaion might also be easy but I hate buying first generation products.
Can a BeeStation be integrated into my HyperBackup on my Main-DiscStation?
So there will be one at a casual users home and will backup to my big one?
Wish they would just add 4 slots for nvme with scaling in the same form factor and full synology experience. Would be an instant buy.
Thanks this is an amazing review.
1. Is internet connection/synology servers a requirement for setting up or authenticating?
2. Does it have btrfs snapshots/versions for files?
So for first setup internet is required, after that you can just use a local account. But it’s not really what this is designed for
Do you have a video on how to access the synology drive from a remote connection using filezilla?
I wish they add another 4TB mirroring drive for backup. OMG, that would be the best option for a lot of users, including myself
Can you change the language? For example if where I live comes with another language pre-installed and I want to change to English
If it is using QuickConnect for Remote Access: Is it just as Slow as any other DS? No BeeStation User is going to do Firewall Rules on his Router so the QC Proxy servers still are a bottleneck?
is this something that plex would work with for simply playing movies and tv shows?
I do wish it were possible to backup the BeeDrive directly to another Synology NAS via HyperBackup. Id love to get one of these for my parents to easily store their files and photos, but have it backup to my NAS in case anything happened to it.
Wouldn't the Media folder be intended to hold the other two conspicuous categories which seem to be absent -- music and video? Not sure why they would think the average person is only interested in photos and general-purpose files. Aren't video/audio/image (or photo/video/music) the three categories supported by dlna?
I think this is meant to dumb things down further than DLNA
@@SpaceRexWill I didn't think you could get any dumber/simpler than dlna 🙂.
im just wondering can it work asa time machine back up I see many asking this question but no answers!
Do you know if a 2.5Gb Ethernet adapter (usb) will work?
Interesting.
But, what about saving my musics: no streaming?
Thanks
Can you map this as a physical drive in windows for example as drive z: ?
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Hello Sir and thank you for your video I just want to ask if I can hook this device (Synology Bee Station) to my router and use it as a main storage device to my PC and transfer my PC data to it (using LAN Cable) and at the same time access it through my phone in the cloud?
i want a storage solution where I can easily store my local PC data and view them in the phone but with out relying on the internet speed to store my PC Data. will this device fulfilled my need? thank you again.
This is what it is setup to do. But it's really focused on documents and things like that. Not hard core media files or anything completed
Can I use backblaze for cloud back up instead of Synology c2
Can you buy a second Bee Station, install it at a remote location, and use it to backup the primary Bee Station?
You cannot
Can it do the file sync function?
I suggest the drinking game where you have to drink a shot every time the words “very easy to ….” or “really easy to…” are said. 😂
But honestly I think it’s a nice device for non professional users, who just want something that works out of the box and has some advantages over the external hdd that they used to backup their data so far. Something you can recommend to your parents / grandparents.
Hey, I'm a parent-grandparent and this is just too simple for my needs. I might recommend it for my grandchildren though.
This is a brilliant concept. Most ordinary people are too busy to be messing about under the bonnet of a NAS. But for the love of god why did Synology not equip this box with a decent processor and memory function. If mere photos prompt the spinning wheels of death (as per your video) then what about those beloved family videos? I'm not asking for the earth, just a few GB of extra ram would help.
Cost, of course.
your are right, but a few gb of ram is inexpensive @@marshallgoldberg8376
Non swappable hdd is a no go for me.
@@marshallgoldberg8376 ram is cheap - I’ve just whacked 18gb into a synology nas for about $20
how many time did you used the word "Easy",
Not sure about having to use the web to connect to a device on the same desk as the pc. Just me I guess. Thanks Will
For people who understand how to do this (lookup a LAN IP) they have the "local" account that you can setup.
I would highly recommend anyone set this up, as if synology servers ever go down, this will still work
@@SpaceRexWill Thanks Will. I think any of your subscribers will be influenced by the inspiration and NAS tech education you have given to us. Great channel, thank you.
Good review - Thanx Rex. I don't feel comfortable with WD MyDrive 👍👍👍
Why?
@@mso Had 2 fail. I use a WD Gold in an external enclosure.
Can we use this as NVR ? to save Camera feed?
Nope!
This is a recipe for disaster. Before I had my Synology DS920+, I used an Apple time capsule for my backups and files. I became dependent on it without understanding drive lifespan and failures. They will likely put their files in this drive without regard for backup or redundancies.
This will do the same thing for users as Apple does with the time capsule. As users fill up the drive up to 3T, they will see later that it will be hard to manage when the drive life ends. They will need a cloud-based backup or migrate their data by buying another Bee Station. This second alternative will entail technical knowledge unlikely to a Bee Station user.
Will: The 4TB version is $299 on Amazon, it is not $200. The $199 is 2TB storage model.
The 299 one must be a scam one. They dont make a 2TB. only a 4.
www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1813838-REG/synology_bst150_4t_4tb_beestation_personal_cloud.html/BI/21903/KBID/28271/DFF/d10-v21-t1-x1431339/SID/DFF
Update: looked into it. You found the beeDRIVE not the beeSTATION (this is on synology, horrible naming convention)
Thanks Will for sending me to the correct product. Love all your videos. You provide good information every time.@@SpaceRexWill
I don't see the point of a NAS unless it has at least two hard disks.
Yeah, I think the thought here is the files live on your phone/device and are backed up to this box. Then if you wipe your phone, etc, you can easily restore. And, if the drive dies, you typically would still have the data on your phone/device. For most home users this is likely fine, but yes I agree, I don't think we are the target market here.
An external hdd for backup will be sufficient for the target market of this device
RAID is NOT a backup. RAID is used to make sure that a business does not have an outage due to hardware failure.
An actual backup is sticking an external hard drive on this thing and having it run hyperbackup
@@SpaceRexWill Don't think they consider RAID a 'backup' however I do agree this classifies more as an external HDD rather than NAS.
External drive with a remote access. That’s it. It’s not a NAS.
So simple and especially for users that don't know anything about NASs, one day they woke up with the Bee Station hard drive dead and will ask where is my files? is simple, they are gone.
The device is above all an easy way to lose your data. However, this is not just a problem with this device, but with all NAS devices in general. With the more professional devices, it is actually assumed that the user installs a UPS themselves. But with this simple device, the rather inexperienced user is guaranteed not to do anything like that. And even if he does, I don't see an option here that would shut down the BeeStation in the event of a power outage if the UPS battery runs out at some point. This means that the data is on a hard drive that is constantly active and is not connected to a fail-safe power supply. In the event of a power failure or accidental unplugging, the hard drive can always be damaged. Any laptop that has an external hard drive connected to it is much, much safer in this regard.
Synology should have installed a small battery here that would at least ensure a safe shutdown in the event of a power failure.
This power loss issue normally comes from the RAID5 write whole, which in this case is not possible due to it being only a single drive. So your COW BTRFS should pretty much protect you from anything power loss wise
@@SpaceRexWill As far as I know, it's not just RAID 5 that is affected by so-called write holes. Sure, a single drive is not a RAID, but I'm not sure if COW is enough to ensure data integrity in all cases. And to be honest, I find it totally incomprehensible that almost every electronic device, no matter how small, now has a battery, except a NAS.
Maybe if it had more space as an option
Is it easy though?
No, it’s very, very easy. And very, very simple.
it would be nicer if it was bigger than 4tb.
nice box but I would rather build my own cheap server and install the DS3615 Synology OS which gives you full features of a synology box and upto 12 drive support.
Yes, stealing Synology’s software is cheaper than paying for it, but stealing is no way to go through life.
@@marshallgoldberg8376not stealing when it's openly available to download not saying I use it just saying what I would do I use TRUENAS for my storage solutions.
@@marshallgoldberg8376 I already replied to your comment why was it deleted, it's not stealing when the firmware is openly available on their site for download. However I only use TrueNAS you should check that OS out.
The only surprise with Synology is that they seem to have brought in a real designer to design the interface for them. As a user of Synology NAS, it seems that you don't deserve a better tool interface.
Yea, why are all CZcamsrs saying this is $200?
The first 8 minutes of this video are just belaboring the points.
Is it really nailed when a company like synology makes this product in which you can't even swap disks in the case of failure?
The best thing about it probably the software.
Is it able to connect to a smart UPS with the USB cable?
Not that I know of
@@SpaceRexWill Thank you!
Yes, now the designers of BeeFiles can laugh at the designers of Synology Drive. Because BeeFiles' UI lets users know that they live in the present, while Synology Drive lets users know that they live in the last century. 🙏
Online account for local storage? lol
A bit too repetitive and long, and till now I didn’t see phone interface of synchronization.
A question the pixel photo were intentional or just bad CPU?
1 hard drive fail and boom! 😅
$220 + Tax
First to comment ;-)
Waste of time
I don't like this product, its hardware is too outdated. There is only one hard disk, how can I recover my data if the hard disk breaks down?The BeeFiles UI interface is very advanced, the Synology Drive interface is too old, Synology doesn't pay attention to give users an excellent interface design experience.🙄
It's annoying to watch him read what he is going to announce
This device is hopeless, it works very slowly, it copies photos at a very low speed, after two days of not using it, I need a few minutes to preview the photos. I DO NOT RECOMMEND IT, WASTE OF TIME, NERVES AND MONEY.
stop listening to CZcams scammers.
So basically an overpriced external hard drive.
I don't understand why this device gets so many good words. I'm afraid Synology doesn't see what happened with WD and online access to their devices. Is this what awaits BeeStation users? YES! Maybe not today or tomorrow. But a ddos or other attack is only a matter of time. It is more than certain that this will happen and you will not get access to your data. And enabling access via LAN, which is available as an option, is BAD!