Mac mini CPU Comparison for Video Editing: Is the i7 worth it?
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In today's video we compare the i5 and i7 variants of the Mac mini for video editing performance in Final Cut Pro.
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I really like your presentation style: Clear. well structured, doesn't waste my time - plus your voice is really easy on the ear. Great work, thank you.
How did you know I needed to watch this video?! Thanks man, It’s super refreshing to see a content creator using something other than a Mac Pro! 🤙✨
I have always wanted to see comparisons like this. It shows what we’ll gain from upgrading the CPU. Thank you Miles and I hope all is well.
Super well made comparison vid, excellent production values, love the lighting and as someone mentioned in the comments, an ear pleasing voice and charming persona.
Thanks for this clear, chill video! Very helpful.
Great video! You pretty much answered what I was wondering. Thank you.
Marvelous video, thanks for the info! 😄👍🏻
Awesome vid! I bought an i5 Mac mini a few weeks ago and found it difficult to get a straightforward comparison. Now that I’ve seen this, I’m certain I’ve made the right choice!
much appreciated!
Awesome, enjoy the mini!
Found myself in the same situation. Was going to spend the extra $200 for the i7 but after watching this review I decided against it. I'm not doing any video editing.
Hey man just wanna say well done, your vid got recommended to me... I know it sounds weird but I know as a CZcamsr that actually means quite alot so I'm actually really hoping your Chanel grows bro
Great job on the video. It was informative and straight to the point.
Thank you so much for this video! I’ve been eyeing the i5 for a7iii footage.
Great video. I bought a late 2012 i7 mac mini (in 2012) and it has lasted me as I use it from the day I bought it to today in 2020 and it supports Catalina.
thanks for making the video! I too was surprised to see so few direct comparisons between i5 and i7 so I went for the i7 "just to be safe".
thanks for the video, really helpful in me looking for a new machine
This is a great channel!. I have started to move away from Windows and really love my MacBook Pro. Will be watching this channel allot!. Thanks for all the videos that you have produced.
Thanks for the review. I came here just out of curiosity as I’ve not seen the Mac Mini & have only used the Apple tablets & phones. Your video was full of information.
As a fan of the Mac mini I always appreciate more coverage anywhere I can get it since it is often ignore by the tech press. Great job on the comparison. Please more of from guy.
Excellent review, just got a Mini i7 for a great price. Did subscribe to support your efforts.
Great video and very well done!
Love the videos with the mac mini... with an available gpu, its (next to the mac pro) the most versatile mac that can go from light duty inexpensive to a beast of machine with a 6 core i7, 32gb (or more) 1tb of storage, egpu, and any 4k/5k monitor. I personally love 2 x 24" UHD (2 x 27 is too much). Keep it up
Literally searched for the same 2 weeks ago and no hits, ty for this video!
Super helpful! Based on this I'm going with the i5 and 512gb of storage vs. i7 and 256 for the same $1099. Having extra space for a second user (my wife) is going to make things a lot easier.
Really good light in your videos!
Very helpful, thanks
THIS(!) was exactly the video I was waiting for! Thank you Sir! -Now, I know what I gonna buy!
Great video. What was the headphones (orange trim) that you had on your desk?
Great content! My 16” MBP is basically my “Mac mini” once I upgraded to an UW monitor.
What eGPU enclosure is being used?
Interesting and well explained !
Great presentation style!
This is helpful. Thanks!
Excellent video! Thank you!
Super video dude. Can you make test also for render farm with this two mac mini ?
Miles, could you do a video about thermal throttling on Mac Mini? Every review says about this but none of them has your time of usage of this machine. I think you are the right man for the job. I’m really thinking about buying one but I’m worried about the temperature. Would be amazing to have a definitive answer about this. Thanks!
I have the Mac Mini and it can get hot at times but whenever it gets to hot the fans start, and I’ve had no issues with the Mac mini. But if you’re really worried you can download an application called Macs Fan Control
Great video sir! I went with the i7 6-core in Feb 2019. I have 32gb Ram, and the Radeon Vega 64 in a Razor Core X eGPU enclosure. I LOVE this little machine....I shoot all 4K in a few different formats and this thing has ripped through it all. 👍🏼😎
Hello Friend! Excellent purchase! Please tell us about the i7 Heating / Overheating Temperatures please ... have a nice day!)
@@sergeyleps8492 I have been cutting 4K video on this machine everyday since I bought it. It runs literally PERFECT. It never overheats.....in fact it runs cooler than any machine I have ever owned as a video editor in the last 16 years. This has been worth every penny I spent on it. 👍🏼❤️🏁
@@ericmonroe6024 Wow !!!
It's great to hear that from you !!!)
Apparently there was no strong heating, and there was no noise from the cooler - because you have a "Radeon Vega" connected ... This of course changes the rules of the Game / Operation Mac Mini))) I understand that ..
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I got the i5 since I needed to buy from third party and it was marked down $175 on Amazon, new. Not going to complain. Glad you have the i7 for the channel and that we got this incredible comparison out of it!
Very Helpful! What app did you use for the system monitoring?
WOW!!!! I never knew you can upgrade the RAM on the new Mac Mini!!!! I have a 2.6GHZ i5 I got back in 2015 that I use for media in my living room but looking for one to use for video and music production!!!
Hi! Thank you for your video, very helpful. Just wanted to ask, what is the app that identifies the performance, Memory, thermal and CPU load average?
Just bought a used Mac Mini with the i5 a couple days ago to replace my completely maxed out 2010 Mac Pro. Wanted an i7 mini but the guy selling it had a price too good to pass up and it came with external eGPU with an RX 580 in it. Was a bit nervous I was going to watch this video and regret not holding out to buy an i7 haha. Looks like I made the right choice and saved some serious $$$.
While I loved my old Mac Pro and could still edit 4K on it and did all the upgrades for airdrop, 128gb ram, SSD, RX 580, the dual 6 core Xeons became quite the bottleneck on a lot of things. My new Mac mini flies through exports in comparison. However when I’m exporting on the mini I noticed some sluggishness trying to browse the web at the same time. Something my old Mac Pro didn’t do. I’m guessing export on my old Mac didn’t use all the CPUs which left them free to be used for other tasks and my Mac mini has less cores that ALL get used when exporting.
It’s a more efficient CPU than the old 12 core? Interesting 🤔 since I hardly see the 2010 Mac Pro we have lying around get more than 70% CPU usage. Even that is rare. (:
ricky v yeah each core on the mini is noticeably more powerful/efficient. I’ve found most programs on Mac OS aren’t optimized to use more than 6-8 cores. So that 12 core on the old Mac Pro essentially just leaves unused cores open for multitasking which is handy, but I prefer fewer WAY faster CPU’s. Biggest downsides now are lack of expandable internal storage and not enough ports to connect accessories. My Mac Mini looks like a spaghetti monster is escaping out the back hahaha.
Where was this video 10 days ago when I pulled the trigger on the i7?
On a related note, thanks for the video walking through the RAM upgrade. I was so nervous doing it my stomach hurt, but I’m now the proud owner of an i7 Mac Mini with 32gb of RAM, far more computer than I’ll ever actually need.
It's better to have far more computer than not enough computer. Your usage might change in a few years. 😄
Still worth it!
@@taurus20077 Exactly, totally agree with u.
FINALLY!!! Haha thank you for making this video!
Many thanks for the comparison. I've been looking at the MacMini simply for still photography editing. Looks like the i5 would do. So what is the minimum RAM you would recommend. You can self-upgrade RAM in the 2020 MacMini?
Great video.
GREAT VIDEO !
@9to5Mac can you please review the Mac Mini hub/stand you're using?
For the love of all that is good thank you 🙏.
Great help. I've upgraded my 2008 MacBook Pro 2.26ghz Core 2 to a 1 TB SDD, 8GB ram and processing iMovie is painstakingly slow. I use it pretty much as a Mac mini, with external monitor, mouse and keyboard. It's great except for exporting video. The mac mini I7 may be a good performance alternate to getting another Mac Book pro, especially on the price performance.
Great video, I have a question, I have a 6 core i5 Mac mini w/32 gb ram Just got an M1 Mac mini but it only has 8gb ram did you do this video with your 2018?
Excellent video, I clarified doubts I had about performance, I have a mac mini 2018 Core i7-8700B-32gb ram but I see in your review that the difference in performance is really imperceptible, I will now go for a second mac i5, greetings from Mexico.
Great little review. Wondering how you feel about i5 v. i7 for general day to day computing (non video editing or gaming) ?
Very minute differences
I have a i5, 16gb mem, play steam games like CSGo, does quite well.
Hey miles, wanted to hear what you think about a Mac mini i5, on a benq 270c for photo editing. I would upgrade to 32gb and a 1tb .
thank you man - so all the 2018's have removeable backs? I thought some were soldered on and hard to get off?
You should have done more comparison test on the multi threaded based application. Blender rendering, cinebench etc
I was hoping that the Mac Mini would be more than it was for the 2018 model but I still like it. I was looking to replace my iMac 5K and wanted to use my own displays. I would have preferred a larger enclosure to accommodate better heat evacuation and an upgradable internal storage option, preferably a couple NVME slots. 4 desktop style RAM slots would have also been great. They probably could have accomplished this in the same enclosure with an HC-NUC style external power supply, freeing up room for better cooling and RAM and SSD slots. That said, I was using my 2018 i7 Mini with 3 32" monitors quite successfully and then added a 4th by use of a Sonnet Breakaway Puck. The Mini can still be used as a hotplate however, it is great for cooking pancakes. They all seem to have a Apple design on them, a nice touch.
Based Mac mini 2018.
Are you planning on buying any cooling? The SPEED design one or that newer one that is much more expensive but quite elegant.
Great video. One question, what app did you use for the graphs?
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Could you please tell me where you bought this small rack from where your monitor stands on and where the mac mini fits in nicely below? I was searching for something like that
hi dudy, tks for the great video. What about replace a i5 processor for an I9 processor at Mac mini 2018...is that possible?
Has anyone else tested the Satechi dock seen in the video? The conformal one that brings card readers and usb ports to the front. I have found quite significant over heating issues when using mine and have since abandoned it
For video editing in FCPX, the difference between i5 and i7 is very insignificant. However, the i7 will render videos a couple seconds sooner.
Hi may i know where did you find a good used mini mac?
How about a test for encoding a stream? Perhaps a test with Ecamm Live and watching the cache and dropped frames?
Where did you get those thunderbolt 3 cables? Or who makes them? Thanks.
It is still worth is in 2023 with the M1 and M2 out? I'm trynna stay in budget and see one 32gigs of ram and core i7
From a corporate background in the technical sector (going back to when main frames, yes main frames, were pedal powered!) you have exceptional presentation skills delivering vital, useful information in an excellent format. Kept my interest for the entire 9 minutes, when I would have to super glue my eyelids open during many of those corporate "deliveries."
Oh, video format...also excellent. Coming from Mac Pros, I have no idea (nor does my partner) why I was even considering these little guys. Increase the height by .5 to 1-inch, bump up the cooling, upgrade the GPU (substantially!) Apple, and we'd have a use.
Hi, I have a 2019 basemodel Macbook Pro with 8GB Ram only. I plan to edit videos from DJI Mavic Air2s, if I purchase an eGPU like what you did here, will that be enough to process and apply color corrections? I want to know if there's no need for me to upgrade to the M1 Mac Mini.
I just got myself the Mac Mini 2018 with the i7 Intel chip. Is there a need to add an egpu for video editing?
Does anybody know how to clean the exterior, including the Apple logo?
You have a bright future !!
So for video editing we just need about 16gb max? You mentioned that your RAM use was floating from 6-7gb. So 8gb system may not be optimal yet?
What keyboard are you using with the Mac mini?
Can the i5 and i7 output 4k 60fps hdr videos? With use of a media player like vlc or kodi? Can you use the normal hdmi port for this, or do you need to use an adapter?
Please help.
Could you do same comparison for Adobe Lightroom CC Classic with 100 RAW files? Exporting full res with some preset and second export with same preset and resize 50%. Would be cool! :)
How does the i5 handle 4k compressed footage (say from an iphone) without the external GPU? I'm a home video editor and the time it takes to generate the video file doesn't matter much to me, but fluidity on the preview window etc. does matter. I wouldn't want to work with choppy preview video!
About the chart at 3:27, I'm a bit confused with how the scaling is working...
Why would you export to an old codec like H264 when there is native hardware support built in for H265?
Do you think that the i3 version with 8 GB of ram is enough for photo editing?
Is it possible to instal more ram on a 2020 mac mini? You can dissembly it?
I just discovered Opencore a few days ago. Now I want to instal macOS on everything!
So to conclude the i7 isn't really worth it at all :O! I was also considering between both i5/i7 because i7 was said to be better for rendering. Unless you're a pro who renders over 6k footage, even then the i7 only seem to perform
Thank you
Nice comparison...thank you. Since I do mostly audio work the i5 should be fine.
3:22 Y axis of the chart is wrong. The bars don't match the marks on the Y axis.
I’m looking to upgrade my ram. Is 64gb overkill? Should I just go for the 32gb upgrade
How About AppleCare when changing The extra ram yourself?
Thanks. Got the i7 today.
That's what I'd buy...you just added another year performance functionality to your mini for a few dollars vs. the high cost of replacing the i5 sooner.
Hey man can you show us how the GPU works with Final Cut Pro I have a RX580 on my i7 Mac mini and the GPU doesn’t really see like it’s working
Make sure you've selected the 580 for exports/renders within final cuts preferences
Correction: The mini's never used any more than 8-10 gigabytes of memory during exports.
hi how about when you edit ? let’s say you have around 50 4k clips form a7iii or any other cameras
Deer Will Are you working on features or large documentaries?
Hey Miles this is something I’ve seen as well. As your exports grow larger and larger FCPX will use more and more RAM though.
ricky v mostly weddings. 3 cameras around 300clip a day footage. i got 32gb mbp with egpu vega 64. when i edit final cut eat lot of ram. wondering how much he gonna use.
9to5Mac when you said that it was 200 degrees where they °F or °C?
Question: what type of headphones are those?
I would want to see if there was a refresh during WWDC
What kind of webcam are you using on your monitor?
Have to start off somewhere i5 with 64gb ram for my video editing just a start till the next Mac mini
Mac mini 6-core i5 or 6-core i7? Which one would you recommend for music production using software like Pro Tools and Logic Pro X.
Great question! What did you ultimately choose for yourself and work with music? I think i7 would be more correct - because DAW manufacturers write, Minimum .... But i7 - i9 is preferred! So it plays a big role for Music software / DAW ..
Any major differences between the Late 2018 Mini and the 2020 Mini?
Handbrake halves the time spent on converting a piece when RAM is doubled in my experience.
Does Apple have a chart you can pull up to see what is being use or usage as far as ram and graphics card? I have a 2015 MacBook pro and I am just curious how to check everything.
Inspirational Talks & Gear you can either open up activity monitor or if you want a more detailed view open up the terminal and write top
My Mac mini is 3,2GHz i7, 64GB RAM and 1TB SSD. Works fine and fast enough (for me)
Not really a great side by side comparison if you're going to compare using an eGPU, which pretty much does all the heavy lifting on your video comparisons.
I had the i5 version, it was good... but then I switched to i7 and it felt like it responded so much better on pretty much everything, without any eGPUs, that's just makes sense if using video editing or applications like Blender. I ended up customizing mine a bit recently adding it to a custom case, with Noctua fans keeping everything cooler and 2 eGPUs along a few other things. Performs much better now.
So did you add ram to the $1099 machine? Sorry I'm a noob but I'm not sure if I understood.
Anyone know if these Mac mini’s have had the Bluetooth and WiFi issues fixed - seen loads of reviews having issues was gonna buy one of these for music production but as soon as I saw these reviews all over the internet I held back from buying one.