Haha rite! I loved Harald and now he's the villain. Last season it was Ivar. I think he will be cool with Bjorn because they have to team up with the Russ coming. Ivar is going to have his brothers back and take their side once they arrive in Kattaget. Mark my words. Last 2 episodes should be great to say the least.
Well Bjorn kinda fucked him stealing his lover, victory at Kattegat, rubbing it in his face and then not celebrating his coronation. Also this is during negotations were you enjoy protection. Harald send asssasins when Bjorn was just staying in a home.
@@alexman378 You nailed it. Vikings were known and judged upon their hospitality. It is dishonorable to invite someone into your hearth and treat them as anything less than an honored guest. Its why Harald didn't outright attack Ubbe later in the series when he went to negotiate for Alfred. Its also why Rollo and Torstein immediately held bad taste towards Jarl Borg when he had them waiting in the cold before their initial attempt to negotiate for King Horik.
"Lagertha murdered our mother and usurped her kingdom" Bjorn: "all of that is in the past now Ivar" Bjorn after Hvitserk kills Lagertha: *REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!*
Yeah... Because it had been years since Aslaug died when Bjorn said it whereas he got his hands on Hvitserk as soon as he heard about Lagertha. This aside, of course he will be biased to Lagertha. But when he said Aslaugs death was in the past he meant it, Lagerthas body was still warm when Hvitserk was arrested.
James Love so your saying if in real life your mother is Murdered by somebody. Its been a year then you won’t avenge her death when the murderer is infront of your eyes.
@@sulavbhatta9611 No, I'm not saying anything about real life. My point was just when Bjorn said it was in the past it actually was years in the past. If we want to get into the nitty gritty too Bjorn was clearly tormented about avenging Lagertha. And he didn't even kill Hvitserk, he dressed it up as exile but in reality he spared his life. I was gonna say what my actual point was again, but I'm not gonna since it is right there in my first reply.
James Love Bro yes aslaugh is a bitch to others but not for family. She was the one who saved ivar . He was only loved by his mother . Just realize how lonely would you be when you cant meet you mother . So ... And of byorn he want hvitserk to suffer .
@@TheStraightestWhitest I don’t think he died worthlessly, after bjorn died he had his kingdom and he even said himself how boring it was, his life was getting becoming king of all Norway and when he completed it he was done, he wanted to go off and have a good death and he did just that
I talking about the perspective of this era: If the sons of the greatest viking legends kill each other it's their own business. It's totally different when someone outside of the family and village kills the mother of the Ragnar sons and the Queen of Kattegat. In that time people probably saw Sigurd's death as an accident especially because Sigurd had by far ranking of importance/reputation of all Ragner sons.
Then bjorn had no answer and put forth "ragnar's dreams and legacy" as an answer. Bjorn is hypocrite. Lagertha killed ivars mother and bjorn tells ivar "that was in the past, forget about it". I don't think a son can just forget about his mother being killed.
@@dafook865 Absolutely right. And what does Bjorn do right after this? Slaps the shit out of Hvitserk, humiliates him, sentences him to death and then exiles him in the hopes that he never enters Valhalla, despite having been the one to convince Olaf to join Bjorn against Ivar, despite having been one of the brothers to join him in avenging their father and despite Hvitserk joining him and Floki on their expadition, simply because Hvitserk unknowingly killed Lagertha. Yet Lagertha knowingly killed Aslaug under peace terms and Bjorn repeatedly talks them out of the vengeance he blindly pursues when it's his turn, always finding an excuse to spout off loudly about how they 'aRe nOT fIt tO bE a SoN of RaGnaR'.
@@henriquegedra2702 ivar dint really accomplish anything he took York and helped Bjorn take Wessex he lost the 1st civil war then got his cross out in order to achieve what he couldn’t in the 1st battle (rollo won the 2nd battle cos of the size of the french army) and killed one of his brothers Sigurd failed to kill Bjorn even though he snook up on him and stabbed him after putting his cross back on for the 2nd time for someone who believes so deeply in the gods he dint half betray them guy was the definition of a loser who took his anger of being a cripple out on the world in particular his own family ruined ragnars legacy which was his sons and lost them their kingdom
@@henriquegedra2702 That’s complete nonsense drummed up idiots on youtube who think being afraid of death is an L. Hvitserk told him “I won’t tell anyone” for a reason. He was scared to die and that’s perfectly normal.
@@IMCJODAN I see another similarity situation with Ragnar: In his final moments he acted like he believe in the gods and gave one of the most badass speeches before he was thrown in the snake pit only to piss of and scare his enemies. In Ivar's final moments he acted like he wasn't afraid of death, shouted battle cries and led his warriors in the battle in such a fearless way that even king of Wessex realized how great Ivar the boneless was. Fearing of death and not believing in the gods - two if the most non-vikings characteristics dominated two of the greatest vikings of all time. What a great story.
It's really hard to pick a side here. I understand why Ivar wants vengeance most people would, I understand why Bjorn does not want more pointless fighting but still wants to make sure his mother is not killed
In the end x.x Lagartha cheated on Ragnar first, She chose to kill aslug for a crime She herself committed, Ragnar explained to Bjorn That many die trying to pick up the crown, and the best become corrupted by it. Lagartha dragged her only son and her entire village into a war that she herself caused, Ivar was 100% right and he gave them a very generous offer, One death to save many.
Hence why it was lagerthas fault she knew that it would divide them and she aslaug out of jealousy she should of let her leave she literally just gave her kattegat
@@nathanaelamante8413 it was not cheating itself, but the situation after - when Aslaug came to Kattegat pregnant and Ragnar wanted to have both women as his wives. Lagertha got defeated then and there, I think - in the sense that there was nothing she could do that would prevent what she percieved as an absolute disaster. And yet she blamed Auslag instead of Ragnar for this... This here is why she killed her. What is absolutely hilarious to me is that she blamed Auslag for "bewitching" Ragnar, as if he had no free will, but Lagertha herself was absolutely bewitched by Ragnar and would do almost anything for him. She even saved their whole family. She showed mercy while the children were small and Ragnar seemed to like Aslaug enough, but once these things were out of the equation, she went for the kill, because there were no reprocussions from Ragnar. I don't think it was power that made her do this, it was jealousy and revenge for perceived wrong. Lagertha had almost everything, but the one thing missing (fertility) was in her eyes enough to "destroy" her marriage, and "drove" Ragnar to Aslaug.
I remember what Ragnar told Ivar, to be intelligent, to use that anger intelligently, lay aside the traditions and all, that move of Ivar is actually smart killing bjorn right there at that moment. Would've saved a lot of lives and wars in the future
@@buddhastl7120 Ivar was greatest viking in that era. He could've become even bigger than Ragnar if he didn't chosed his death in such a young age. During their trip to Wessex Ragnar became more and more aware what Ivar is capable of and he knew that Ivar thinks different than his other sons. Ivar is superior in so many ways to all his brothers and that's why he's he became the biggest viking legend out of all his brothers.
@@buddhastl7120 So why is Ivar the most famous viking that ever lived, and never lost a battle, how is that weak? I'm talking about the real Ivar not the one in the show.
this scene was awesome. it showed how ivar has no honor of there ways. an I love how Bjorn didn't flinch. ivar mind has been twisted over time by his disability an his mother's influence. can we just recognize how Bjorn walked out like a BOSS
Hello sir, this is Harald from Kattegat viking support. You have Ivar in your castle. Please give me 50 horses and I will remove the Ivar from your castle
Legartha killed Auslag! Ubee: She killed our Mother! Bjorn: I know But first We must avenge Ragnar! Ivar" I will Kill Legartha! Bjorn All of that was in the Past now Ivar! For the sake of our father. Hvitserk Kills Lagertha! Bjorn: Rreaaaarrrrrrr!!!!!!!!!!
@@TheStraightestWhitest I watched that season a long time ago. I will find the episode and post here, ivar was talking about the war. He said something like this "I am not afraid of anyone, nobody of them, maybe bjorn but just a bit". Clearly he is scared
@@TheStraightestWhitest this is. Heahmund: "Do they frighten you, your brothers?" Ivar: "No, maybe Bjorn, just a little. I don't find him very smart, but he is a great warrior. They call him Bjorn Ironside". Season 5 episode 7
This is one of my favorite scenes in the entire show and it actually made me respect King Harald. "You know as well as I do, that this is not our way. It's not our way!"
My favorite part of this scene is when Bjorn says "doesn't he (Ivar) have enough world to conquer?" Subtle yet a deep line in my opinion. Ivar and Bjorn are the two most dominant Vikings at this point and each have different leadership styles and opposing ideals. Bjorn leads with charisma and battle prowace while Ivar uses fear and pride to lead his men. In the end of their story arc, I feel that Bjorn wins in this theme of corruption in power. At the end of Bjorn's long journey he becomes the noble king of Norway and maintains the righteous virtues of being a leader, overcoming the challenge of corruption that Ragnar warned him about.
Yah what are you even saying Ragnar understands everything...he was trying to find who he was... I can relate when I was younger I viewed myself as a god... I felt immortal like I could do anything....life has taught me a different lesson the same one ivar learned lol
Ivar was a ruthless tyrant because Ragnar literally told him to. Ragnars dream at the end was revenge against King Ecbert which only his son Ivar understood
Ivar is very clever, reckless yes but clever too.He says:"It's worth a try". His brother is just a way for him to test the water with the king Harald. How far He can go and also a way to demonstrate his power over his mans. His warriors don't back away when the king said no. They waited for the next order of Ivar. It's war. And Ivar knows it. There is no shame to try to kill your brother here. Wake up guys! His brother is with Lagherta. Did you forget? You know the women who killed Ivar mother IN THE BACK?! Do you see honor in that?
You mean she killed that crazy annoying witch bitch? Under her watch Little Siggy died and she was just smiling on it? Almost two of Ragnars sons died when she was fucking with Harbard.
Harald: Killing Bjorn under a banner of truce is not our way. Also Harald: Trying to kill Bjorn after an election even though the only reason I'm alive is that he tried to save me from Viking Buddha is our way, though.
I don't think Ivar attempting to kill Bjorn was his main goal in this moment. Much like in York, he's making it clear who is more powerful. In both incidents we see it happen. Ivar took over York and Ubbe left with the minority of the men. When Ivar and Harald defeated Bjorn, it was Ivar who became king, even though that was Harald's ambition. In short, this was a power play, Ivar made it clear to Harald who was in charge, and Harald was visibly threatened
Good analysis. It's also obvious that Ivar has the most power because only when Ivar made the sign that the guards/vikings can go again thez went away and not when Harald said "this is not how we do it".
Well, it is okay to send assasins to kill him and there is no shame or dishonour in this way of killing someone but it is certainly dishonourable to kill him when he is your guest and unarmed.
Also important to understand that Bjorn is the most famous Viking alive at this point Harald regardless of their rivalry respects Bjorn and understands this he would not let the main symbol of Vikingism die like that it would have been an utter disgrace not only to Bjorn himself but everything he has achieved
Harald throughout the seasons had many opportunities to let Bjorn die and keep his hands clean, but he didn’t do it. I think despite everything he said and did, those moments reveal who he really was.
Ragnar would've whopped all their arses for going against each other. Ivar in particular needed a good beating by his father. Get that anger in check. O well ... eventually, it was Rollo's line that continued. And Alfred's.
I think the reason why rollo allied with ivar is cuz rollo wanted bjorn as his second and if bjorn loses the battle rollo would propose him his army and to join him.
All Ivar want is justice for his mother that's all he wants and is getting heated for it. I get that's your mum Bejor but Ivar is your brother you shouldn't be apart of this fight. Let them deal with it themselves they can handle themselves.
I think that Rollo would not betray Bjorn and that they already made a deal before Hvitserk went and asked for help If im wrong then any small bit of respect i had for Rollo is gone.
Rollo wanted to take bjorn to his castle so he sent army to ivar so that he capture kattaget and when bjorn have no idea where to go after losing kattaget Rollo will take him....that was the plan but bjorn didn't go with him else he go to England with lagartha and uber
He wanted Bjorn out of the politics of Kattegat. The world of the Pagan Northmen is shifting into the world of the Christian Normans. That was the way the future was heading. As Rollo says, "What is us is changing" He also wanted to save his son.
The actor who plays Rollo explained in this behind the scene interview. The reason he sides with Ivar and Harald against Lagertha , who he has always loved .He sees Hvitserk in himself and he needs to give him these soldiers and his boats so Hvitserk can go back to Ivar , this brother that is so like Ragnar . He is giving him a chance to shine and make himself Famous. I guess from what Clive Stanton is saying is Rollo was always overshadowed by Ragnar. he sees the similarities in the relationship between Ivar and Hvitserk and is probably living vicariously through Hvitserk so he can prove to himself that he was just as good as Ragnar . by siding with Hvitserk he is proving something to himself. He sees Hvitserk in himself being overshadowed by the more Famous brother Ivar. who has so much of Ragnar’s intelligence and personality traits.
Couldn’t watch this show after rangnar died. Nice to see burins actor really filled out his role. But unpopular opinion but ivar really ruined it for me.
@@TheHighborn I can understand what you mean honor is important even to me... but in the Art of war ....you know is not the same... Ivar wants to be like Headmund if you remember, but he was a cripple , so he have two options, live like a cripple or live like a viking even if he needs to be evil or ruthless ,people will fear him. ( Remeber Ragnar last words) .
i still cant believe rollo helped.. like did he not ask who was on the other side? theres no way he would of helped destroy bjorns side... like wtf is this shit
@@poopz Ya he does. I think part of his thinking was that if Lagertha and Bjorn lost the city then they would come with him and he could finally have them. If helped Bjorn win the city then obviously Bjorn wouldn't leave to go to france. Plus Rollo would probably not want to extort Lagertha and Bjorn but felt nothing doing it to ivar and harald.
Ivar should have rid of when he couldn't walk from the start period. His mother was proud strong ivar mom was brought in out lust an that it. Bjorn said father said I'm grateful to you but in the end that's it.
Ubbe is the only one who fulfilled Ragnar dream. All Ragnar wanted was to be voyager and a simple farme. He became a Jarl because the Old Jarld did not wanted to sail West. In the last Ubbe find new lands and i'm sure he will become a farmer.
Bjorn is right for the greater good of humanity, Ivar should've let this family tiff go...and for the love of his father he would've not wanted vengeance.
I don’t agree, Ivar represents the anger within Ragnar that nobody ever fully understood. As a man with a disability, I can understand Ivars anger toward the world for always taking pity upon him, and underestimating him. However, Ivar certainly has his moments of complete assholeness. And these moments make me understand why people don’t like Ivar. Still, he is an interesting character that kept me engaged with the show after Ragnar’s departure.
Ivar is deeply psychotic, but he has a point. If Auslag had murdered Lagertha with an arrow in the back, Bjorn would overturn the world. He cannot even acknowledge the righteousness in Ivar's cause. Lagertha did indeed murder Auslag. That demands vengeance.
*Ivar has no honor or principles.* He was willing to break a truce and murder his brother Bjorn while he is a guest and surrounded by enemies. It was the ultimate insult and disrespect to their culture, religion, and tradition. But, this should be expected as Ivar also murdered the Seer because he told him he wasn't a god, and Ivar was too much of a sensitive narcissist to accept it.
He learned that from Ragnar Ragnar invited Earl Borg in the pretext of peace but captured and blood eagled him, Bjorn was with him at that time yet never learned any tactics from Ragnar.
You have to admit he's been put in an impossible position, it's his mom. This is all Lagertha's fault, there was no way killing Aslaug was not going to have repercussions.
IVAR is the legacy! IVAR is the best Son of RAGNAR period! Ragnar told him what to do Ivar kept his promises to his father Ragnar! Bjorn and Hvitserk are second best! Ubbe and Sigurd are less so they both took the side of their mothers killer. That's something Ragnar would have never done! Lagertha killed Ragnars legacy! Rollo made his own legacy!
I get that ivar wants to avenge mama aslaug, but come on, u don't have to kill your family to do that, family is all u have, u might want fame but who will u share that fame with. I get that lagertha killed your mother and am gonna sound biased, but LAGERTHA?! the greatest shieldmaiden in midgard! From my point of view, your mom wasn't worth it. No one cared, not ragnar, not your brothers not even the citzen of kattegat. And Harald, For the love of odin, pick a fucking side!
He didn’t want to kill his family, they merely stood in his way. Ubbe switching up on Ivar and returning home to Lagertha was a scummy move all around and made him a traitor
For me Bjron in this serie is just dumb fighter i mean a great fighter nothing more. Like he never achieved anything, he kept sailing until the end and came back as a king for some days and got knocked out 😅. As for Ivar and Ubbe they were great like their father
Harald: "this is not our way"
*1 season later*
Harald: "nevermind"
To be fair, this was before a lot of unfortunate events. like killing his own brother
Haha rite! I loved Harald and now he's the villain. Last season it was Ivar. I think he will be cool with Bjorn because they have to team up with the Russ coming. Ivar is going to have his brothers back and take their side once they arrive in Kattaget. Mark my words. Last 2 episodes should be great to say the least.
Well Bjorn kinda fucked him stealing his lover, victory at Kattegat, rubbing it in his face and then not celebrating his coronation. Also this is during negotations were you enjoy protection. Harald send asssasins when Bjorn was just staying in a home.
It’s one thing to try and kill someone in a battle, it’s another to try and have them murdered as a guest while they’re there to negotiate.
@@alexman378 You nailed it. Vikings were known and judged upon their hospitality. It is dishonorable to invite someone into your hearth and treat them as anything less than an honored guest. Its why Harald didn't outright attack Ubbe later in the series when he went to negotiate for Alfred. Its also why Rollo and Torstein immediately held bad taste towards Jarl Borg when he had them waiting in the cold before their initial attempt to negotiate for King Horik.
"Lagertha murdered our mother and usurped her kingdom"
Bjorn: "all of that is in the past now Ivar"
Bjorn after Hvitserk kills Lagertha: *REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!*
Yeah... Because it had been years since Aslaug died when Bjorn said it whereas he got his hands on Hvitserk as soon as he heard about Lagertha. This aside, of course he will be biased to Lagertha. But when he said Aslaugs death was in the past he meant it, Lagerthas body was still warm when Hvitserk was arrested.
James Love so your saying if in real life your mother is Murdered by somebody.
Its been a year then you won’t avenge her death when the murderer is infront of your eyes.
@@sulavbhatta9611 No, I'm not saying anything about real life. My point was just when Bjorn said it was in the past it actually was years in the past. If we want to get into the nitty gritty too Bjorn was clearly tormented about avenging Lagertha. And he didn't even kill Hvitserk, he dressed it up as exile but in reality he spared his life. I was gonna say what my actual point was again, but I'm not gonna since it is right there in my first reply.
James Love Bro yes aslaugh is a bitch to others but not for family. She was the one who saved ivar . He was only loved by his mother . Just realize how lonely would you be when you cant meet you mother . So ...
And of byorn he want hvitserk to suffer .
@@jameslove1162 Warm? I guess u technically right.She had been cremated.
King Harald is getting more and more interesting.
Straight White Male a no mate a think he's gonna turn out somthing goid
Still has no luck with the ladies though lol
@@jollyrancher9016 And died worthlessly. Man, they wanted to rush this or something?
@@TheStraightestWhitest I don’t think he died worthlessly, after bjorn died he had his kingdom and he even said himself how boring it was, his life was getting becoming king of all Norway and when he completed it he was done, he wanted to go off and have a good death and he did just that
@@huntermaurice1562 That's a decent point. Just a bit dumb to drop his ambition like that.
this was the moment i respected Harald for the rest of the series
Yea he saved bjorn twice
I know right
I love Ivar’s “it was worth a try” 😂
Season 6 ep 20 when he says "im scared brother" made me so sad
i always loved how ivar commands his men, they all fear him
That's how I command my men too
They respect him above all else I think
@@thestranger8528 what man would that be
I think they also respect him. It's a mix between fear and respect.
A man who fights for you out of fear will only do so for so long. A man who fights for you out of loyalty and respect always will
It's funny how Ivar talks about justice but he killed his own brother and nothing happend to him.
I talking about the perspective of this era: If the sons of the greatest viking legends kill each other it's their own business. It's totally different when someone outside of the family and village kills the mother of the Ragnar sons and the Queen of Kattegat. In that time people probably saw Sigurd's death as an accident especially because Sigurd had by far ranking of importance/reputation of all Ragner sons.
It's also funny how you think the show is in the 2020's.
Sigurt got what he deserved, he taunted ivar his whole life for being crippled, you could say ivar killing sigurt was the justice in that situation
@@THIS-IS-Master-Chiefivar was not innocent in that matter. He also patronized sigurd and belittled him and ran behind his mother after
@@z.incognito6259 Sigurt still a bitch tho
it amazes me at how big Bjorn is man is a giant, and i love it
Well Ivar was nothing in front of him
King Herald was an amazing character! You didn't know whether you to hate or love him!
Ivar was 100% right: 'I must avenge my mother's murder. And I think you would do the same if it was you'.
Then bjorn had no answer and put forth "ragnar's dreams and legacy" as an answer. Bjorn is hypocrite. Lagertha killed ivars mother and bjorn tells ivar "that was in the past, forget about it". I don't think a son can just forget about his mother being killed.
@@dafook865 Absolutely right. And what does Bjorn do right after this? Slaps the shit out of Hvitserk, humiliates him, sentences him to death and then exiles him in the hopes that he never enters Valhalla, despite having been the one to convince Olaf to join Bjorn against Ivar, despite having been one of the brothers to join him in avenging their father and despite Hvitserk joining him and Floki on their expadition, simply because Hvitserk unknowingly killed Lagertha. Yet Lagertha knowingly killed Aslaug under peace terms and Bjorn repeatedly talks them out of the vengeance he blindly pursues when it's his turn, always finding an excuse to spout off loudly about how they 'aRe nOT fIt tO bE a SoN of RaGnaR'.
It's funny because Bjorn is supposed to be the son of Aslaug too, and Ivar was the eldest son. Lagertha's son with Ragnar was Fridleif, not Bjorn.
@@purescrub8187 there aren't enough sources that have said that Ivar is the eldest
@@dafook865 he already told them I'd you kill her you have to kill me that's answer's enough
Perhaps in his final moments When Ivar admits he is scared he spared a thought for his Brother, Bjorn, who died as he lived, fearlessly
But he was scared of being forgotten, not scared of death
@@henriquegedra2702 ivar dint really accomplish anything he took York and helped Bjorn take Wessex he lost the 1st civil war then got his cross out in order to achieve what he couldn’t in the 1st battle (rollo won the 2nd battle cos of the size of the french army) and killed one of his brothers Sigurd failed to kill Bjorn even though he snook up on him and stabbed him after putting his cross back on for the 2nd time for someone who believes so deeply in the gods he dint half betray them guy was the definition of a loser who took his anger of being a cripple out on the world in particular his own family ruined ragnars legacy which was his sons and lost them their kingdom
@@henriquegedra2702 That’s complete nonsense drummed up idiots on youtube who think being afraid of death is an L. Hvitserk told him “I won’t tell anyone” for a reason. He was scared to die and that’s perfectly normal.
@@IMCJODAN I see another similarity situation with Ragnar: In his final moments he acted like he believe in the gods and gave one of the most badass speeches before he was thrown in the snake pit only to piss of and scare his enemies.
In Ivar's final moments he acted like he wasn't afraid of death, shouted battle cries and led his warriors in the battle in such a fearless way that even king of Wessex realized how great Ivar the boneless was.
Fearing of death and not believing in the gods - two if the most non-vikings characteristics dominated two of the greatest vikings of all time. What a great story.
@@PatoNani18 Finally someone gets it! Kudos 👏🏼 It doesn’t take away from the stories at all. It adds to it, if anything.
It's really hard to pick a side here. I understand why Ivar wants vengeance most people would, I understand why Bjorn does not want more pointless fighting but still wants to make sure his mother is not killed
In the end x.x Lagartha cheated on Ragnar first, She chose to kill aslug for a crime She herself committed, Ragnar explained to Bjorn That many die trying to pick up the crown, and the best become corrupted by it. Lagartha dragged her only son and her entire village into a war that she herself caused, Ivar was 100% right and he gave them a very generous offer, One death to save many.
Hence why it was lagerthas fault she knew that it would divide them and she aslaug out of jealousy she should of let her leave she literally just gave her kattegat
Revenge was only a pretext. He want to be greater than Ragnar. To do so, he must defeat Bjorn.
@@nathanaelamante8413 it was not cheating itself, but the situation after - when Aslaug came to Kattegat pregnant and Ragnar wanted to have both women as his wives. Lagertha got defeated then and there, I think - in the sense that there was nothing she could do that would prevent what she percieved as an absolute disaster. And yet she blamed Auslag instead of Ragnar for this... This here is why she killed her.
What is absolutely hilarious to me is that she blamed Auslag for "bewitching" Ragnar, as if he had no free will, but Lagertha herself was absolutely bewitched by Ragnar and would do almost anything for him. She even saved their whole family.
She showed mercy while the children were small and Ragnar seemed to like Aslaug enough, but once these things were out of the equation, she went for the kill, because there were no reprocussions from Ragnar.
I don't think it was power that made her do this, it was jealousy and revenge for perceived wrong. Lagertha had almost everything, but the one thing missing (fertility) was in her eyes enough to "destroy" her marriage, and "drove" Ragnar to Aslaug.
I remember what Ragnar told Ivar, to be intelligent, to use that anger intelligently, lay aside the traditions and all, that move of Ivar is actually smart killing bjorn right there at that moment. Would've saved a lot of lives and wars in the future
Huh
You misinterpreted what Ragnar was saying
Ragnar completely overrated Ivar in this series. Ivar was weak. Not just physically. Where Ragnar saw Ivar’s rage he confused it with strength.
@@buddhastl7120 Ivar was greatest viking in that era. He could've become even bigger than Ragnar if he didn't chosed his death in such a young age. During their trip to Wessex Ragnar became more and more aware what Ivar is capable of and he knew that Ivar thinks different than his other sons. Ivar is superior in so many ways to all his brothers and that's why he's he became the biggest viking legend out of all his brothers.
@@buddhastl7120 So why is Ivar the most famous viking that ever lived, and never lost a battle, how is that weak? I'm talking about the real Ivar not the one in the show.
Boy i bet Harald regrets this moment lol
Walked out like a straight up G! I ain't bothered
this scene was awesome. it showed how ivar has no honor of there ways. an I love how Bjorn didn't flinch. ivar mind has been twisted over time by his disability an his mother's influence. can we just recognize how Bjorn walked out like a BOSS
@@MW3laforce That won't happen.
Bjorne isn’t even Ragnars son and ivar has every right to want to kill lagertha
@@jittvdailyvloglife6622 WTF ??? he look like RAGNAR OR ROLLO ??
Crane de caillou yes in the first episode of the new season rollo tells Bjorn that Ragnar was not his father, rello is Bjorns father
@@jittvdailyvloglife6622 ARE YOU DUMB ??? i see this BUT HE LOOK LIKE WHO ROLLO OR RAGNAR HE FIGHT LIKE WHO RAGNAR OR ROLLO ??
no hesitation by harald.... gotta love it
Harald is king in this scene not ivar ✊✊
King Haralds random Indian accent at 1:42 had me gone 💀💀😂😂
Hello sir, this is Harald from Kattegat viking support. You have Ivar in your castle. Please give me 50 horses and I will remove the Ivar from your castle
“All that is in the past now, Ivar” that’s why kvitsvik should of said to Bjorn when bjorn was confronting him about his mother lol
Damn, I don't even remember this scene
He's right tho bjorn would've done the same.
Legartha killed Auslag!
Ubee: She killed our Mother!
Bjorn: I know But first We must avenge Ragnar!
Ivar" I will Kill Legartha!
Bjorn All of that was in the Past now Ivar! For the sake of our father.
Hvitserk Kills Lagertha!
Bjorn: Rreaaaarrrrrrr!!!!!!!!!!
Ivar is afraid of bjorn
The other way around judging by Bjorn's face during the battle.
@@TheStraightestWhitest I dont remember what episode but Ivar said he is afraid of bjorn
@@matiasguzman7635 I binge-watched the first half of Season 5 mere days ago. Didn't come across that scene.
@@TheStraightestWhitest I watched that season a long time ago. I will find the episode and post here, ivar was talking about the war. He said something like this "I am not afraid of anyone, nobody of them, maybe bjorn but just a bit". Clearly he is scared
@@TheStraightestWhitest this is. Heahmund: "Do they frighten you, your brothers?"
Ivar: "No, maybe Bjorn, just a little. I don't find him very smart, but he is a great warrior. They call him Bjorn Ironside".
Season 5 episode 7
This is one of my favorite scenes in the entire show and it actually made me respect King Harald.
"You know as well as I do, that this is not our way. It's not our way!"
My favorite part of this scene is when Bjorn says "doesn't he (Ivar) have enough world to conquer?" Subtle yet a deep line in my opinion. Ivar and Bjorn are the two most dominant Vikings at this point and each have different leadership styles and opposing ideals. Bjorn leads with charisma and battle prowace while Ivar uses fear and pride to lead his men. In the end of their story arc, I feel that Bjorn wins in this theme of corruption in power. At the end of Bjorn's long journey he becomes the noble king of Norway and maintains the righteous virtues of being a leader, overcoming the challenge of corruption that Ragnar warned him about.
Bjorn should of said “for the sake of our father” to lagertha before she killed Aslaug loll
Yep Mr. Bjorn aka double standards.
Ivar: If i kill you now, you will be in past too
He didn't even flinch
King Harold was a real one for that
Ragnar would truly be ashamed of what Ivar would become, a monster and a horrible king
Ashamed my ass, he would be proud of Ivar since he became the most famous viking that ever lived in history.
@Pure Scrub did Bjorn not become more famous? But he didn't kill his fucckin brothers to do so innit
Yah what are you even saying Ragnar understands everything...he was trying to find who he was... I can relate when I was younger I viewed myself as a god... I felt immortal like I could do anything....life has taught me a different lesson the same one ivar learned lol
Ivar was a ruthless tyrant because Ragnar literally told him to. Ragnars dream at the end was revenge against King Ecbert which only his son Ivar understood
I've watched this scene more times than I'm comfortable admitting to. 🤦🏽♂️
It was worth a try!!!
Ivar is very clever, reckless yes but clever too.He says:"It's worth a try". His brother is just a way for him to test the water with the king Harald. How far He can go and also a way to demonstrate his power over his mans. His warriors don't back away when the king said no. They waited for the next order of Ivar.
It's war. And Ivar knows it. There is no shame to try to kill your brother here. Wake up guys! His brother is with Lagherta. Did you forget? You know the women who killed Ivar mother IN THE BACK?! Do you see honor in that?
Exactly!!!
Ivar, on the other hand, fears the reaction of King Harald. His influence is pretty awesome.
You mean she killed that crazy annoying witch bitch? Under her watch Little Siggy died and she was just smiling on it? Almost two of Ragnars sons died when she was fucking with Harbard.
Real talk they
You fucking stupid Ivar mother was evil bitch had no honor! The fools her agree with this shit lol
King harald and music is fucking dope
Bjorn was called Ironside for a reason dude didn't feel threatened at all his just so relaxed like its nothing
Harald: Killing Bjorn under a banner of truce is not our way.
Also Harald: Trying to kill Bjorn after an election even though the only reason I'm alive is that he tried to save me from Viking Buddha is our way, though.
He saved Bjorn and nearly died. What are you saying lul
@@avekatten3207 did you watch the latest episode? Harald does try to kill Bjorn: czcams.com/video/FXliSsJIl5A/video.html
He tried to kill him because Bjorn didn't come to the election after party. His feelings were hurt.
MisterL2 uh yeah? But Haraldnyborg saves Bjorn first. No idea why you are saying this lol.
@@logan5804 election after party :D
If someone killed my mother, I’d seek the same. Ivar is total BA.
I hate what they have done with king Harald
Ivar still command the room. Hareld is nothing .
I don't think Ivar attempting to kill Bjorn was his main goal in this moment. Much like in York, he's making it clear who is more powerful. In both incidents we see it happen. Ivar took over York and Ubbe left with the minority of the men. When Ivar and Harald defeated Bjorn, it was Ivar who became king, even though that was Harald's ambition. In short, this was a power play, Ivar made it clear to Harald who was in charge, and Harald was visibly threatened
Good analysis. It's also obvious that Ivar has the most power because only when Ivar made the sign that the guards/vikings can go again thez went away and not when Harald said "this is not how we do it".
Great thinking!
It was worth a try 😂😂
Bjorn punked every dude in the room😂😂😂😂
Funny how Harald was against this here but in the new season he sends for Bjorn to be assassinated.
Well, it is okay to send assasins to kill him and there is no shame or dishonour in this way of killing someone but it is certainly dishonourable to kill him when he is your guest and unarmed.
Because the situations were different here Bjorn is an emissary,while a season later he is Harald rival for the throne.
Also important to understand that Bjorn is the most famous Viking alive at this point Harald regardless of their rivalry respects Bjorn and understands this he would not let the main symbol of Vikingism die like that it would have been an utter disgrace not only to Bjorn himself but everything he has achieved
Ya'll think Aslaug really bewitched King Ragnar as Lagertha claims?
I do.
Nah Ragnar & Bjorn just can't keep their pants on for one freaking minute.
Thats what they all say
Who would've thought jelouse king Harold wiuld stop the elimination if his competition. That guy is the opposite of littlefinger.
Mtume Umrani hes never been a bad guy....... Out of all the people I’d follow it would have to be him and ubbe
Harald throughout the seasons had many opportunities to let Bjorn die and keep his hands clean, but he didn’t do it. I think despite everything he said and did, those moments reveal who he really was.
King Harald: Its not our Way!
Earlier Kills EaRl Vik.
LoL.
God, it really says something that Harald is the one telling Ivar he's doing something wrong, with all the messed up stuff Harald had done....
1:41 Harald defends him damn
My favourite character harald fair hair!
Ragnar would've whopped all their arses for going against each other. Ivar in particular needed a good beating by his father. Get that anger in check. O well ... eventually, it was Rollo's line that continued. And Alfred's.
Che Bonazza il barbetta
Attitude
I think the reason why rollo allied with ivar is cuz rollo wanted bjorn as his second and if bjorn loses the battle rollo would propose him his army and to join him.
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All Ivar want is justice for his mother that's all he wants and is getting heated for it. I get that's your mum Bejor but Ivar is your brother you shouldn't be apart of this fight. Let them deal with it themselves they can handle themselves.
Mother vs half brother. We all know bjorn was/is a huge mamas boy. No way he ever lets anything happen to lagertha willingly.
I think that Rollo would not betray Bjorn and that they already made a deal before Hvitserk went and asked for help If im wrong then any small bit of respect i had for Rollo is gone.
ShamGB your wrong. Rollo even told Ivar where they were hinding after they refused his “help” Bjorn should have killed him
Doredar He did it knowing they would be gone by the time he got there. That’s a strategy to show that he’s still on his side.
I still dont get why rollo sent his army against bjorn...
To do a deal with Ivar for spares bjorn life.
I think he knows that ivar was going to won that battle, so he prefer to do a deal.
Rollo wanted to take bjorn to his castle so he sent army to ivar so that he capture kattaget and when bjorn have no idea where to go after losing kattaget Rollo will take him....that was the plan but bjorn didn't go with him else he go to England with lagartha and uber
He wanted Bjorn out of the politics of Kattegat. The world of the Pagan Northmen is shifting into the world of the Christian Normans. That was the way the future was heading.
As Rollo says, "What is us is changing"
He also wanted to save his son.
The actor who plays Rollo explained in this behind the scene interview.
The reason he sides with Ivar and Harald against Lagertha , who he has always loved .He sees Hvitserk in himself and he needs to give him these soldiers and his boats so Hvitserk can go back to Ivar , this brother that is so like Ragnar . He is giving him a chance to shine and make himself Famous.
I guess from what Clive Stanton is saying is Rollo was always overshadowed by Ragnar. he sees the similarities in the relationship between Ivar and Hvitserk and is probably living vicariously through Hvitserk so he can prove to himself that he was just as good as Ragnar . by siding with Hvitserk he is proving something to himself.
He sees Hvitserk in himself being overshadowed by the more Famous brother Ivar. who has so much of Ragnar’s intelligence and personality traits.
@@Thunder-Ghost wow
I fail to understand how getti g rid of a cripple was so hard
“All of that is in the past Ivar”. Yeah, kinda like Hvitserk killing Lagertha right?
Couldn’t watch this show after rangnar died. Nice to see burins actor really filled out his role. But unpopular opinion but ivar really ruined it for me.
Yea he would and he does lol
Look ivar can be a prick but hes completely right to avenge his mother
Lagetha started all this shit but everyone blaming Ivar…. Nobody told Lagetha to leave Ragnar when she did…… gawd she’s annoying
Agreed, had she just let Aslaug leave, none of this would be happening.
When ivar said"you would do the same bjorn" I rlly wish bjorn said"your mother would be dead by now"
Ivar dont give a shiet honor..... he doesnt need that ... he is smart and evil thats his strength
"Honour means nothing to a corpse"
@@TheHighborn I can understand what you mean honor is important even to me... but in the Art of war ....you know is not the same... Ivar wants to be like Headmund if you remember, but he was a cripple , so he have two options, live like a cripple or live like a viking even if he needs to be evil or ruthless ,people will fear him. ( Remeber Ragnar last words) .
Read it want it there
There are 2 ivars or is it hvitserk?
Ivar on the floor. Hvitserk on the table.
@@tammyprather5649 oh
SAVE 60%!
This is all Lagerthas fault.
i still cant believe rollo helped.. like did he not ask who was on the other side? theres no way he would of helped destroy bjorns side... like wtf is this shit
Rollo felt bad for hvertsik. He kind of saw him as being the same position Rollo was with Ragnar, getting overshadowed.
@@Moadar i guess... but he loves bjorn, so its still hard to fathom
@@poopz Ya he does. I think part of his thinking was that if Lagertha and Bjorn lost the city then they would come with him and he could finally have them. If helped Bjorn win the city then obviously Bjorn wouldn't leave to go to france. Plus Rollo would probably not want to extort Lagertha and Bjorn but felt nothing doing it to ivar and harald.
@@Moadar that actually kind of makes sense coming from the drunken brute that was rollo
Ivar should have rid of when he couldn't walk from the start period. His mother was proud strong ivar mom was brought in out lust an that it. Bjorn said father said I'm grateful to you but in the end that's it.
I fckn love Ivar he is a true king and the only real son of Ragnar
#TeamIvar
0:41 Boom
🤗🤗🤗🤗👏👋😍🤗🌺.
Bjorn is the truth i keep saying this all his other siblings besides ubbe fulfilled their fathers dream
Ubbe is the only one who fulfilled Ragnar dream. All Ragnar wanted was to be voyager and a simple farme. He became a Jarl because the Old Jarld did not wanted to sail West. In the last Ubbe find new lands and i'm sure he will become a farmer.
Bjorn is right for the greater good of humanity, Ivar should've let this family tiff go...and for the love of his father he would've not wanted vengeance.
I could not blame ivar for this he is doing what anyone would I do blame him for going all insane later on and being a insane dictator
IVAR is less than trash, Bjorn is the only true son of the great Ragnar.
So too is Ubbe.
I don’t agree, Ivar represents the anger within Ragnar that nobody ever fully understood. As a man with a disability, I can understand Ivars anger toward the world for always taking pity upon him, and underestimating him. However, Ivar certainly has his moments of complete assholeness. And these moments make me understand why people don’t like Ivar. Still, he is an interesting character that kept me engaged with the show after Ragnar’s departure.
Ivar has all of Ragnar's intelligence, battle planning, and overall rage. He is the truest son of Ragnar, Bjorn is dumb as rocks.
Ivar is deeply psychotic, but he has a point. If Auslag had murdered Lagertha with an arrow in the back, Bjorn would overturn the world. He cannot even acknowledge the righteousness in Ivar's cause.
Lagertha did indeed murder Auslag. That demands vengeance.
Bjorn is not the true son of Ragnar. hence, he's Son of Rollo.
Space x elon musk 3000 not king 45000
Harald was the only true Viking in this show.
I think same he was worth too he had ambition and fighting and never do shameful things
*Ivar has no honor or principles.*
He was willing to break a truce and murder his brother Bjorn while he is a guest and surrounded by enemies. It was the ultimate insult and disrespect to their culture, religion, and tradition. But, this should be expected as Ivar also murdered the Seer because he told him he wasn't a god, and Ivar was too much of a sensitive narcissist to accept it.
He learned that from Ragnar
Ragnar invited Earl Borg in the pretext of peace but captured and blood eagled him, Bjorn was with him at that time yet never learned any tactics from Ragnar.
Why everybody making i at the bad guy that chick murder his mother of course he wants revenge
Bjorn was the biggest hypocrite on the show
You have to admit he's been put in an impossible position, it's his mom. This is all Lagertha's fault, there was no way killing Aslaug was not going to have repercussions.
Fact: Ivar is the true king
Bjorn always been so hypocritical.
IVAR is the legacy! IVAR is the best Son of RAGNAR period! Ragnar told him what to do Ivar kept his promises to his father Ragnar! Bjorn and Hvitserk are second best! Ubbe and Sigurd are less so they both took the side of their mothers killer. That's something Ragnar would have never done! Lagertha killed Ragnars legacy! Rollo made his own legacy!
I get that ivar wants to avenge mama aslaug, but come on, u don't have to kill your family to do that, family is all u have, u might want fame but who will u share that fame with. I get that lagertha killed your mother and am gonna sound biased, but LAGERTHA?! the greatest shieldmaiden in midgard! From my point of view, your mom wasn't worth it. No one cared, not ragnar, not your brothers not even the citzen of kattegat. And Harald, For the love of odin, pick a fucking side!
He didn’t want to kill his family, they merely stood in his way. Ubbe switching up on Ivar and returning home to Lagertha was a scummy move all around and made him a traitor
If it was your mama would you be saying the same thing?
Ivar the biggest coward of the world
Nop
Yes
Ivar is evidently the biggest coward in the history of Vikings. And people stil think he'd go to Valhalla.
Bjorn is so biased
Ivar allways coward🤮
For me Bjron in this serie is just dumb fighter i mean a great fighter nothing more. Like he never achieved anything, he kept sailing until the end and came back as a king for some days and got knocked out 😅.
As for Ivar and Ubbe they were great like their father
Ivar sucks. Ragnar would be ashamed
Nop
@@jacoblarahdez9907 yep
@@vili6632 nel
@@utilisateur4222 go roleplay somewhere else
why would he ? they were all great warriors till the end despite their beliefs
Ivar still command the room. Hareld is nothing .
Ivar still command the room. Hareld is nothing .