How to Install a Drop-in Sink (Do’s and Dont’s)
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This video is giving me PTSD. I installed a 1954 drop-in cast-iron enamel sink on a quartz countertop, where the half-assed techs cut an undersized hole. When the sink got jammed halfway down, they told me they would have to cut out the narrow margin in front of the sink, which would have ruined the project for me. I would always see the glue seams after the counter piece was stuck back on. Using a car jack I got the sink out without breaking the countertop and hired another contractor further to the right on the bell curve to properly dimension the hole.
Sounds like the lip just needed some sanding.
@@SamCanada1 Precisely. I called two guys who owned a masonry shop 20 miles away who took the remediation job, probably because they felt sorry for me. One of them got in the hole with an angle grinder and carefully removed material while the other guy measured the new dimensions. After about an hour, they were able to slide in the sink. When I asked them for an invoice, they told me to pay them what I thought it was worth. They had just saved a $5000 piece of quartz from being scrapped and me from having to shell out an additional $5000 to replace it. I gave them $500.
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Hey Jeff! Saw you at Home Depot earlier today! You helped us a ton with our general contracting business. Nice to see you
Hey Jeff, you are the bomb! I love watching your videos, I'm a women that like to do my own handy home work, you teach me a lot! Thank you!💪🏾😊
Cheers Whitney, happy to be of some help!
Thanks Jeff, doing this in my home in about 2 weeks. i needed this one haha.
Yay for more Sacramento region content! I love seeing what is possible in our zones.
"Always let the saw stop working before you move it away".
Proceeds to remove saw multiple times while it's still working ... Love it! =D
Monkey may see, but monkey shall not do
I think it would be worthwhile sealing the cut worktop in case any water finds its way in over time.
Going to be starting a kitchen reno soon and your videos have been amazing. Thank you.
It's crazy I will probably never do anything you do in your videos but I just love watching your channel!!!
I appreciate that!
Ditto. There's another guy I sometime watch when YT reminds me 'America's Dad' I think? Reminds me of watching my brother and dad work on DIY projects. I wasn't allowed to participate though as mom thought it too dangerous for a girl. (She loved me. What could I do?) 🤷♀
I'm confused. Why did you putty on three side but silicone the front? Maybe you explained but I missed it.
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Beautiful job!
Good decision on the single basin. I love those. The problem with those stainless steel sinks is the sharp edge. I did one with silicone and it leaked. Almost ruined the formica. I even tightened it so much it popped the clip railing loose from the sink. It was a mess. Years later, changed out the whole kitchen anyway.
I just bought the same sink before seeing this. Perfect!!!!
Dude, love your videos, even if I will never do what you are covering. But in this case, we will be ripping out our kitchen soon and will need this!
Black and Decker? I finally feel seen.
I like the double sinks. It's more plumbing, but I often rinse rinse in one and let stuff soak in the other. Haven't used my dishwasher in years bc it sucks. Always have to wash stuff before and after so its a glorified drying rack.
I've heard that you can put flex seal (either paint on or spray on) on the bottom of metal sinks to reduce the noise and insulate them a little better.
I'm not going to be installing a kitchen sink anytime soon, but I need to refinish a vanity top with new formica and put in a new sink so I will need to make sure the hole is the right size for it. I ordered the same size sink but not all sinks are the same and the old sink is a fugly avocado green one from the 70s.
That cutoff chunk of butcherblock would make a nice shelf or small desktop or something.
Plumber's putty is fun to play with.
The end result looks great!
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Hi Latoya, Great to see you back!
Im homeless and Watch your videos .... so i dont even have a House to do any of this Sh*t. But i love your videos. Thanks.
Great job!
Thank you! Cheers!
Amazing and Impressive!❤❤❤❤
I watched the whole thing!
Cheers for that!
That's wonderful work. I must've missed that part: on the front length of the sink piece - why do a silicone seal there and not use the plumber's buddy like on the on the other three sides?
Yes I had the same question. Not sure why the putty can't be applied across the front as well?
Only thing I add and it’s a very small thing is before you put something to weigh it down put an old towel in the bottom of the sink first to protect it but other wise great video very helpful
Great idea!!
Hello Jeff watching your videos gives me the courage to do more projects at home.
Id just cut the whole cutout with the jig saw, so easy!
What an odd sink design to have such a wide deck and narrow overlap. Definitely made that cut line precarious.
I’m a bit over cautious, but I made my plumber add silicone to the exposed cut edge before putting the sink in as well as under the rim . Told him I’ve seen to many homes with bubbled laminate from water leaking under the edge. So far so good
The older we get, the harder it is to do things that were just a bit of a chore when we were younger !! When I was in my prime I could go all day. Now I need to take breaks to let my body catch up to the job at hand. It now takes about 3 times longer to do most major chores. I’m in my late 60s.
Getting old SUCKS !!
Amen brother I feel ya!
sounds like i got another good 10 years left in me then I will need to get off the tools and manage. Cheers!
The issue with plumbers putty on the rim of a drop in sink, is it dries out/cracks/shrinks, then is no longer a water barrier. As someone who has seen hundreds of drop in sinks get removed from laminate tops, older ones with just putty as a gasket always fail, and the tops (particle board) always get rotted out.
Drop ins with large gaps that show silicone can be attributed to crap quality control sinks that are massively warped out of the box, and generally not tightened down enough. Of course some new style sinks dont even have a "rail" that you can crank down on, instead just have a folded over edge with tiny machine screw holes that cant allow you to actually tighten the "bend" out of it.
Completely agree! I don’t always agree with installation instructions but silicone is the way to go and has worked for me for many years.
Good points and good comment
Only thing more tedious than Clipping in a new sink, is having to Unclip and take out an old one. I’ve never seen anyone, and definitely never stuck heavy arse buckets of mud, in a new sink like that! That’s what the sink clips are for! Usually like and admire Jeff’s work, but this install not the best, and NOT quite the way I would have done it. I’m speaking from over 15 years of doing this type of installs for a high end Custom Cabinet Shop, in another season of life. Of course, everyone has their own way of working, and as long as it works and doesn’t leak when done, is what truly matters.
BTW, Barrel grip jig saw is the only way to make the cutout. Company I worked for supplied Bosch saws.
I handled a Kraus drop in like this a while back - one of those little tracks on the underside edge was sharp and nearly sliced my finger off. Some guys have all the luck...😏
I just installed a Kraus and the cap that sits in the sprayer/soap dispenser hole sliced my index finger really good. That I saw a bunch of people using gloves while doing this did not register with me, I guess
Jeff at 9:09 "Always let the jigsaw finish moving before you lift it in case it catches something"
Also Jeff at 10:13 *rips out the jigsaw while it's moving at full speed*
the perfect combination of precision and experience. Cheers!
"I should read the instructions but..."
I immediately remembered all the 'Tim the Tool Man Taylor' mistakes he made in previous videos. 🤣
Did you add silicone only to the front side ? Do all four sides have plumber's putty ?
I'm sure your lungs must love you Jeff, after this video was done!😆
I do just silicone (clear, white doesn't match anything else there, it isn't a white sink or countertop) cause as you experienced, putty will be too hard to compress to get rid of the gaps with the way you attach it to the countertop. Bonus with the butcherblock top is you can save the scrap piece and turn it into a cutting board.
Those small details can pay big dividends
Have you ever met Bob Vila? Any stories you’d like to share with us about you and Bob? Your videos are very enjoyable.
My Father in law has this habit of making some choices based on what he THINKS will fit not on what physics will allow. He had a new countertop put in and selected a sink to install and ignored the installers' advice. Ended up the cabinet EXACTLY lined up with the cutout for the sink. Perfectly flush on 3 out of 4 sides. Father in law wouldn't change his mind, so the installers walked. I got asked to 'fix their mistake' - I took one look, called him an idiot, and since the cabinets (Fortunately) were older and made from solid wood, broke out a detail router, a rabbet bit and put a 1/4" deep groove just at the top of the cabinet to allow the clips to hold the sink in place.
You're gonna regret the butchers block bench top. They go black and nasty around the sink.
This gives me hope for mine I've put off for 3 years because butcher block.
Did you only silicone the front and back and not the sides? If so, why? Did you not add putty to the front and back too? If not, why not? Could you also paint the inside and underside of the counter with Red Guard, especially where the dishwasher will be to help prevent steam damage?
just seal with the countertop finish on the underside. Cheers!
The laughter of a man who knows he’s gonna make mistakes, and have to figure out how to fix them.
30:50 oh nooooooo you went for the white silicon instead of clear one, that's a rookie mistake
Would there be an advantage to soaking the cut edge with copper napthenate or some some spar varnish? I can see why you choose thd plumbers putty, but I always find the stuff with black mold and no longer doing its job very well after a few years. Redlly appreciate this kitchrn remodel series
Thank you! I just installed a new vanity and sink in one bathroom and was wondering why the rubber gasket kept bunching up. I don’t remember seeing any paper but maybe I threw it away 😂🤦♀️. At least I know for the next one 😊
Glad it helped!
Why did you use silicone on the front edge of the sink?
Wow, drilling the four corners first. that's smart, man! 🤘
I love how he uses a finish countertop as a workbench 😅😅 and not following directions
does it come with a paper template?
not this one. Cheers!
I want to get a new sink but we had unseen water damage on our cabinets so its been delayed. Any recommendations on a brand? Not a big fan of house brands as I work retail and am thus leery of those. 😒 Currently have a double sink, but like the idea of a single. Was thinking the one I saw on a Big Box online site that has a very thin ledge so its kind of both... but the thinness makes me leery as does polished stainless.
The sink we have now is an early composite white. Do not EVER get a composite sink. Stains like a champion of evil. Wanted to get rid of it for decades but its set in a granite countertop (and that was another champion of evil or at least the contractor was.)
Why silicone on one side? Why not plumber's putty all around?
when i realized i couldn't get the clips to engage I also knew i would not have the compression to seal with putty so I used gravity and silicone. Cheers!
Jeff, so if you had enough clips, you would have used plumbers putty on the front side as well, right?
I want to see you install an over mount sink undermounted. Why do I want this? I want a sink that drains the water from my wet hands on the faucet into the sink, not pooling up on the countertop.
Why silicone on one side? Why not plumber's putty all around? I would use scrap paper and save the instructions.
"...yeah, that's the way they want it done, that's not the way I'm doing it."
I love that! That's a pro talking people!
why not plumber's putty all the way around the sink? why use silicone in the front?
Did you only put plumbers putty under 3 of the 4 sides of the sink?
Nevermind see that you’re doing silicone across the front. Can plumbers putty poison the cure of the silicone?
Can plumbers putty discolor the wood?
this was the non staining variety. the basic one could if you don't have the finish on it yet!
Maybe opting for a farm sink would have made things a little easier because you could get it away from the back wall?
So you put the silicone on top of the plumber's putty? I couldn't see.
But why put silicone on the front and plumbers putty on the other sides?
In other words, why not use plumbers putty on all four sides?
so much grunting lol
Ah dang I was trying to be first to commit 🤷☺️
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@@whitneyhitch5109 😄☺️☺️
Thumbs up for trying 😅
Jeff immediately not following his own advice :P 9:08 10:13
Using the template and fabricating the sink cut out before installation is the professional way to do this.
Umm, no! One can never completely plan/ measure for where the sink center will be in the finished Counter top install. Cabinets, walls, can change all that. And yes, I have installed tons of tops and sink cutouts in over 15 years in the Custom Kitchen and baths business.
@@georgedavall9449 I appreciate your emotional response. I am a duly licensed residential remodeling contractor of 12 years. What I have desired above is absolutely the professional way to complete this install. I appreciate your opinion though and if you want to work harder than necessary you are free to do so.
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pretty sure sinks come with a template in the box 🧐
Why no disposal?
I always finish my food. no need!
@@HomeRenoVisionDIY so, your going to live in it when you come down from Canada? 👍 I thought this was a flip.
Where's your safety glasses?
Just wondering.. how come you don’t use the jigsaw for cutting the whole thing?
one reason I would think of is that it is much easier to do straight cuts with a circular blade and with this sink there isn't really much leeway for mistakes
the jigsaw tends to cut through the material on an angle and not square so better to do the majority of the cut with a stronger straighter blade. Cheers!
In all the counter tops and sinks I installed over the years, always used an electric Bosch jig saw. Cordless saws weren’t all that good back then. I NEVER used a circ saw.
I worked with a new installer that used a circ saw, a Makita, and scratched the Hunter Green top
( which was very easy to do ) and the owner was so mad, threatened him and kicked him out of his Home. We had to remake the whole top. Baseplate was aluminum.
speaking as a pest control technician : if I can squeeze my nail between a sink and the countertop, which is something I test when roaches are involved, it's not good. At all. For a bunch of reasons,
That usually happen when the counter top is worn out beyond repair, damaged by water.
But I did see poor installation in newly built kitchen, something that makes me lose hope in the human race, when that happens.
good Info ; Wear safety glasses ; and show some of the clean up work to let DIYers know how much work is involved to do the job !
I suppose just changing out a sink is a whole lot easier!
I still hate that kitchen but I appreciate your work.
I did my first sink a few months ago. I hate those !?#% clips. Jeff, please invent a better way.
Hey Jeff! Did you get hacked? Lots of really poor building projects posted under your name. Very odd.
im gonna preface this comment by saying im a huge fan and watch most of your content, why would you do all that beautiful cabinets/tile/trim and butcherblock top, to then put a shit metal drop in sink in? im really hoping its just so you could make the how to video..
I think it's because it's a mobile home. When doing the shower he was talking about keeping costs down to avoid pricing out buyers. Do it right and do it well, but don't spend a ton on the finishings. He even added a bench to the shower, so I wouldn't be surprised if it's a 50+ community.
just trying to keep the project scope more affordable on this one and take the opportunity to demonstrate the process. Our new project is a 1974 4 bedroom in Ottawa. My Forever Home Series coming soon.
It is a poor quality sink. Only good S/S sinks ever made were Elkay.
Why women some men can't do this
No vacuum?🥴
Can't believe he wasn't wearing some sort of mask during all that cutting. I have asthma and I would've been struggling to breathe if I inhaled all that dust.
Believe it. You have asthma. He doesn't.
Yes please do wear eye protection and mask protection, its not worth the injury.
Jeff! I think your FB account got hacked!
why would you install this where there are high tech ones that do better in almost every aspect ( ಠ ▵ ಠ)?
trying to stay on budget for this build. Cheers!