REGIGIGAS AND WEEZING ARE A BAD COMBO! Here's Why...| Pokemon Sword and Shield Crown Tundra VGC
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- čas přidán 31. 10. 2020
- Today I discuss why I don't think regigigas and weezing are at all a good combination in VGC, despite what you may hear from newer players or other youtubers. Let's get into it!
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Future Marcos here. I was wrong, terribly wrong. But Kanto weezing was optimal, so I got some things right!
I'm confused, why were you wrong?
@@boosheroo4475 cause while it's not common anymore, neutral gas regigigas was a complete monster competitively
For w/e reason, Gamefreak refuses to give this guy a break. They have no problem with tweaking old abilities so I dunno why they have such a hate boner for Slow Start.
Ikr can we get a slow start that only lasts 3 turns and not 5 or instead of cutting speed and att by 50% maybe only 35% cut
but no that wont happen :(
because gamefreaks doesn't only think about the competitive aspect, otherwise some abilities wouldn't exists, slow start is an ability that fits perfectly regigias : a giant force of nature who is slowly awakening
@@stremstrem3632 What about other Pokemon who are like that? Eternatus,Necrozma and many others?
@@Nosretep they absolutely don't play similar roles tho
@@stremstrem3632 They're giants who've been asleep for ages. Eternatus is way more powerful then Regigigas, and isn't stuck with that.
It’s best to pair weezing with a Pokémon that doesn’t NEED their ability, not ones that NEED the ability gone
Like pressure zapdos. Then just hit them with a HH electric
I got to MB tier with Wolfeys Jolteon+Weezing team and this was the exact idea. You turn off lighting rod, prankster, intimidate etc and all you lose is volt absorb.
If you NEED the ability gone I'd just run Gastro Acid
Like archeops
@@JJSquirtle that's not very optimal. You can't swap out your regigas after that. And you require the pokemon to not only waste a turn, a slot on gastro acid you also risk being taunted. Moxieboosted had a bad point when he tried to point out he doesn't think wheezing can switch out. There are a lot of scenarios where Regigigas will pick up the KO even if his atk is halved for the turn. There is no problem with switching Wheezing out.
"Regigigas can't get it going" sounds so dirty :D
Poor old guy so old he has ED...
Man has 5 children give him a break dude is spent
The positives to this core are that it's immediate. In comparison to Skill Swap, Worry Seed or Simple Beam, it's much trickier to dissect. You can't taunt the support mon to cancel the setup and Weezing is free to either protect on turn 1 or support with Will o' Wisp, Aromatherapy, Haze, Taunt or even setup a Substitute. I've ran some Damage Calcs and here are some interesting findings:
- 252+ Atk Life Orb Libero Cinderace Iron Head vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Weezing-Galar: 117-140 (68 - 81.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
- 252+ Atk Libero Cinderace Max Steelspike vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Weezing-Galar: 144-170 (83.7 - 98.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Cinderace needs Life Orb and the boost from Libero (which is very likely to be disabled but for argument sake isn't disabled in the calc) to OHKO Weezing with an Adamant Nature with Max Steelspike, however these calcs aren't factoring in Weezing using Protect, which reduces the damage by 25%, easily helping to keep Weezing alive and well.
- 252+ Atk Life Orb Kartana Smart Strike vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Weezing-Galar: 140-166 (81.3 - 96.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
- 252 Atk Kartana Max Steelspike vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Weezing-Galar: 168-200 (97.6 - 116.2%) -- 87.5% chance to OHKO
Adamant, Life Orb Kartana doesn't even OHKO Weezing and needs to commit the Dynamax to OHKO with Steelspike. However, Jolly Kartana without Life Orb is guaranteed to OHKO Weezing, meaning if the Weezing protects, they'll probably live almost every time.
- 252+ Atk Landorus-Therian Max Quake (Earthquake) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Weezing-Galar: 168-200 (97.6 - 116.2%) -- 87.5% chance to OHKO
I'm honestly not going to count Landorus-I because Therian is such a better form for Doubles with Intimidate, however Lando-T is in the same boat as Kartana. If Weezing protects, it will likely live a supereffective Max Earthquake from Lando T.
Something else to consider are the speed Tiers. At base 100 Speed, Jolly Regigigas can outspeed, Max and OHKO:
- Tapu Lele - 252 Atk Regigigas Max Steelspike (Iron Head) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Tapu Lele: 218-258 (150.3 - 177.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO
- Adamant Terrakion - 252 Atk Regigigas Max Steelspike (Iron Head) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Terrakion: 190-224 (114.4 - 134.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO
- Landorus Therian - -1 252 Atk Regigigas Max Hailstorm (Ice Punch) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Landorus-Therian: 252-300 (153.6 - 182.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO (Even after Intimidate which as I said earlier gets cancelled out but is still worth mentioning)
As you can see, Maxing Regi on turn 1 is going to leave a nasty mark, I haven't even gone over all the neutral Max Strike Giga Impacts and how destructive they are against neutral resists. This thing can't be Intimidated either because of Neutralising Gas. The only way to potentially neuter it is to burn it, but holding a Lum Berry negates that opportunity entirely. In the Regigas Damage Calcs above, they were done with no Life Orb, meaning you have plenty of space for Lum Berry and can easily OHKO whatever is trying to Burn you.
Regigas is also an incredibly unpredictable Pokemon due to it's vast moveset, including:
- All the Elemental Punches.
- Darkest Lariat.
- Excellent Ground coverage with Earthquake, High Horsepower and Stomping Tantrum.
- Drain Punch.
- Iron Head.
- Knock Off.
- Rock Slide.
- Zen Headbutt.
- Wide Guard.
You can run so many different sets with Regi including Assualt Vest, Wide Guard/Knock Off Support, Choice Band or even Choice Scarf. Finally, Weezing can always carry a Supereffective Berry to lessen Supereffective Special Moves or Max Steelspikes from Mons mentioned above. I heavily disagree with this being a "niche" core, and think it holds a ton of potential. The only thing I dislike about it is how committal it is. You need to lead off with Regi and can't use it as a late-game Sweeper. It does set-up extremely well for late-game sweepers though by extremely damaging the opposing team and opening them up for Mons like Excadrill, Glastrier or Metagross.
Regigigas with popplio's att stat is so sad. This Pokémon should be classified as the "deadweight" Pokémon.
*Looks at Regigigas' size compared to the other mons*
Look how they massacred my boy
It was acceptable when the game was 2D, but now we have 3D fucking models and tons of screen space yet Gamefreak is too lazy to scale their Pokemon correctly.
I mean just look at Waillord's size in Sword and Shield! xd
@@ollie9646 how is not scaling a pokemon "lazy"
if anything they're putting in extra work to adjust the size so it's acceptable in battle and in the overworld, how do you think they would place a wailord AND a dmax pokemon on the same side of the field
@@donkkut5003 how can they have huge ass dynamax Pokemon but not a wailord? Do you realize that in past full 3D Pokemon games like on the GameCube, wailord was full size?
Whimsicott is just better imo
Worry Seed Whimsicott paired with Regigigas
@@TheNutshaq That was awesome back when Dark Void was running the tables. 😎
@@TheNutshaq When compared to weezing, yeah, but I've tested that strategy out and it's foiled by psychic terrain or taunt, more often than not.
PSA: you can still use priority moves on your partner in psychic terrain
Short answer:
Youre better off using worry seed, simple beam, entrainment or gastro acid
The best way to optimize this is to use a dewpider or araquanid that knows entrainment, make sure it has water bubble!, regigigas will lose its annoying slowstart ability, gain a halved fire damage buff, will be unburnable and if y use a water type attack its power gets doubled basicaly putting the same dmg bonus as stab into it
Or use a skillswap on it whit a sacrificial alakazam that has its hidden ability
Or idk galarian slowbro skillswap xD
Or an espeon that has magic bounce and uses skillswap
Aslong as you use entrainment, skillswap, worry seed, simple beam, gastro acid, etcetera etcetera youll be free of the thyrany thats slow start
Or you could use mummy + weakness policy
@@suconligma3498 waw reckless! I like it! Works perfectly devastating! Good thinking, tho im not quite informed about cofagrigus its movesets
Entrainment doesn't really work well in practice because it doesn't work on dmax mons and it also doesn't work through protect so basically you have to have a turn of not protecting or dynamaxing. Disappointing really, Hustle Regigigas sounds pretty fun.
Worry Seed, Entrainment and Simple Beam don't work to get rid of Truant and Slow Start though
@@gabagandalfoftheweed how?
Simple beam forces the ability into simple
Worry seed forces it into insomnia
And entrainment forces it into the same ability as the one to use it
We're still lucky Slaking wasn't brought back, neutralizing gas slaking would just be... ew.
Eh durant have truant too and i think that ability isnt nullify
@@robertoalexandermendezmore408 Lol they gave Durant the Truant ability as a hidden ability as a joke, because it’s an Ant. Tru-Ant. Whereas Slaking actually has good base stats, but it’s only ability is truant
@@InvaIidGaming The Truant ability is still viable on Durant since it can learn the move Entrainment, which will change the target's ability to Truant also. On Slaking, which has the same Stats of a legendary like Kyogre or Groudon, but was not meant to be a legendary, Truant acts as hindering ability not to make it OP perhaps. However, in my opinion, Truant makes Slaking practically useless in the competitive field and I hope Gamefreak gives it a change to return now that Neutralizing Gas exist.
#justiceforslaking
@@InvaIidGaming not really. It still has a niche with entrainment
@@SoggySlopster okay but I don't see how the ability truant fits Durant as a pokemon, as it doesn't seem like a "slack off" Pokemon like Slaking. Thus my main point being that they gave it the ability for the pun.
Curious as to what you say, but my friends and I have used Weezing + Gigas a lot recently, and I absolutely have to agree. What's funny is instead of a Pokemon having to pull the weight of Gigas, I feel like it's weezing thats just sitting there on the field this time. Regi finally becomes practical, but its essentially a 1.5 v 2, Weezing just feels entirely useless and hard to keep alive.
I immediately tried this strat but it’s not as hype as I was hoping. I’ve had way more success with Skill Swap Regi with Hat cuz I can cripple someone else after and/or utilize trick room and it allows Regi to bounce back wisps and toxics that would normally cripple it
That’s very smart bro.. wish I played doubles
@@jujumack94 you should play doubles, it’s way more interesting/fun. Singles became so boring for me after I learned doubles
@@jujumack94 singles is a good place to start, doubles required a lot of critical thinking not only building a team but using it correctly
@@crisdebo yes that’s my problem.. I’m good at building teams in singles with strategy.. but doubles a whole different ball game
@@InvaIidGaming I need to learn if you have some rental teams for me lmk please lol
Simple beam and worry seed are much more consistent. I'm testing regi max spdf weezing team with a latios in the back with simple beam and its pretty good. Latios also has an actual offensive presence unlike Swoobat and Whims and it also gets tailwind.
I think kanto weezing is also a better pick since it drops the steelspike weakness.
Yeah, I think worry seed Whims is much better to use with Gigas. Whimsicott is so easy to fit onto almost every team, which Weezing can't match. Plus, an insomnia Regigigas is immune to Amoongus's spore and doesn't require Whimsicott to be on the field at all times.
I personally think neutralizing gas is an ability that people want to make work, but it just doesn't work all that well. So many pokemon nowadays rely very heavily on their ability and Weezing just makes any pokemon that rely on their abilities significantly less useful.
@@conorb.1901 problem with that is redirection though, you become complete dead weight against follow me or rage powder users like Amoonguss, Togekiss and Clefairy. Since you can"t simple beam your Regigigas and then it does no type of damage at all on top of that. Which is good about Weezing is that it also stops Intimidate from working and also stops things like Libero and swift swim and drizzle and all type of stuff. Prankster too. And it's also a passive way of dealing with it. That means you don't need to actually waste a turn removing Slow Start from Regigigas before it can act properly and during that turn, Regigigas can be put to sleep, burnt, paralyzed or whatever. And with Weezing you can even Max Strike to drop Metagross's speed, so Weezing can burn it with Will-o-wisp in the same turn, since Clear Body won't work. I think it's more of a fun thing than a thing that will win tournaments or anything, but even, i still think weezing is better due to the passive action of the ability not requiring a turn to actually remove it.
@@echogaia1708 but again, that still requires Weezing to be on the field and not dead at all times next to Regigigas. This wouldn't be a problem if Gigas was given a hidden ability. Even a hidden ability that does LITERALLY NOTHING would be an enormous improvement over slow start. Neutralizing gas requires you to have a pretty bad (at least in my opinion) pokemon on the field just to enable Regigigas.
Neutralizing gas can work, but pokemon nowadays rely on their abilities a lot, and Weezing isn't the right pokemon to make it work in my opinion. Just use something else that can actually deal with Metagross or Amoongus without having a very specific pair on the field with one extremely obvious weak link.
I like Regigigas, I really do, but as long as slow start is still its ability, it will be bad, and Weezing isn't a very good way around it.
@@echogaia1708 Amoongus isn't an issue because you'd be using worry seed with whimsicott and as a grass type it's immune to rage powder. Togekiss might still be an issue but it's also one you can just play around if you see it in team preview
@@conorb.1901 i think it works on certain teams but you need to really teambuild carefully. It partners really well with intimidates and competitive boosts to cycle them over and over again. Doesn't work all that well with slow start and similar abilities.
I'm using it alongside dragapult to shut down clear body metagross and actually lower its stats with wyrmwind.
I like using Simple Beam with Regigigas 😀
Who are you who are so wise in the ways of science
I love that combo, but always get stopped by Intimidate.
I do that too with swoobat lets me use EQ also I thought about haxorus because mold breaker would that work
Gastro acid works too
I use that with golisopod, but it's tough with so many redirection pokemon in use.
Weezing archeops on the other hand..
In this battle, they literally destroyed an entire team that relied on its pokemon abilities LOL. replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8doublesuu-1261644382
And Galarian Weezing and Regigigas isn't even that needed anymore, now that Regigigas finally has Protect and Rest!
Protect/Knock Off ,Rest,Sleeptalk,Facade🔥
@Omar Elzant yeah I mean you get to choose only four, note the slash on the Knock off/Protect bro 😂😝
You can rest now, regigigas
I honestly don’t understand what people see in that core either. It’s just not good.
It's just kids seeing one ability, seeing the other ability, and Jimmy neutron brain bombing it
Not consistent enough to be good
I recall a year or so ago when neutralising gas was announced and everyone hyped up this pair and I was just like "but ....... they actually don't synergise with one another apart from that, and I don't see what Weezing would bring outside of it's ability and Will O Wisp and maybe clear smog ..... and if it dies Gigas becomes useless again"
Seems I was right
People just wanted to see Regigigas not being dead weigth for once, even if it was through a gimmicky setup.
I have never lost using this combo and I know I never will anyone can challenge me you WILL lose
Basically, Weezing becomes a BIG target and once ko'ed, Slow Start gets reset
Protect? Lol they can target it all they want. I've seen some of these setups run and Gigas one shots damn near anything it hits and if you can keep Weezing alive with protect then you just steamroll
Honestly I feel like a good way to do this is use galarian wheezing to bait the other team into only attacking it while regigigas sets up a substitute. Hell maybe run levitate on the wheezing for the people who aren't paying the proper attention and think they just missed the neutralizing gas ability message
Protect and Substitute tho
@@TearsOfABroken Ice punch and earthquake should be able to hit almost everything neutrally right?
@@nathancurnutt8074 it should yea. Nothing is really gonna put a stop to weezing tho if it uses protect then sub back to back, unless it gets 1HKO’d the second turn unless focus sash of course
The issue boils down to the fact that if your Wheezing gets taken out you basically lose two Pokemon, and Wheezing isn't exactly tanky
This is a great video Moxie. I love the explanation at the end with Golisopod, it really puts things into perspective.
Dusclops with eviolite: *set up trick room*
Regigigas: *I am speed*
Slow Start, more like.. SPEED Start
Regigigas, the liability Pokémon!
Could you not like uturn or parting shot after regi attacks swap in something weak possibly with intimidate and have weezi g come back in?
What if you were to try a bulky Slowking with Skill Swap, Curse, Calm Mind and Recover? Just as a loose thought?
Prankster Whimsicott with Worry Seed is an option right? I've been out of the competitive scene for too long tbh.
it is, but you get a similar issue of it being very one dimensional and the opponent being able to beat it if they know what they're doing with tools like redirection and fake out + something to kill whimsi. if you're playing vs someone with their regi + whimsi out, what other play would they make that doesn't make their regi dead weight
i forget do abilities like mummy work to turn off slow start ?
Rayquaza, having a waaaaaaaaaaay higher base stat total then regigigas, game freak: yeah you deserve mega awakening
Regigigas, Game freak: *WOAH, SLOW DOWN THERE BUCKO UR WAAAAAAAY TO OVER POWERED, HERE HAVE THIS.*
I'm going to use a level 100 regigigas and level 80ish wheezing alone against my sister's pokemon team, which are mostly around level 70, but some might be at 80. Her cinderace is most likely her fastest pokemon, but it doesnt have any iv training other than her beating the game with it. Can you give me some advice on how hard i should invest in training the regigigas's speed? Should i do max speed ivs and a nature that increases speed, or would that just be overkill? Thanks :)
Can you swap abilities to get rid of slow start?
Could you get around Slow Start by using Worry Seed Whimsicott to change the ability to Insomnia? Or is there a rule that slow start cannot be overridden?
would an answer for burn be façade as a normal stab ?
I’ve been using scarf substitute on wheezing and it’s been working decently well. You do have a lot of solid points though I feel like this strat was overhyped and worry seed or simple beam is just better.
I’ve found the same thing, but Regigigas is one of my favorite Pokémon ever so I refuse to give up on it
I’ve found Simple Beam Latios to be way better tbh
Never give up on Regichungus!!
Finally, someone who understands that. Galarian Weezing really isn’t that immovable, and needing to get Neutralizing Glass makes it now weak to the ever present Earthquake instead of immune to it.
When will you be doing battles with the team you made with 9th gym?
Likely this weekend!
I'm trying out a huge power skill swap gigas set and it's insane when it works but gets destroyed by follow me and taunt, both of which being pretty relevant in the meta rn
Does entrainment work for removing his ability?
I've been playing around with some different sets, and while I dont love the team I created as it could definitely use some tweaks it does manage to avoid some of the trappings you outline. I'm running Kantonian Weezing with max SPDEF and HP + Shuca Berry with protect, pain split, substitute, and haze (for intimidate), Eviolite Koffing with the same moveset and EVs as the Weezing, and Tapu Fini to deal with Status. The other 2 Pokémon on the team rn are filler, but being able to cycle out neutralizing gas with another neutralizing gas and having terrain control has been really nice on showdown so far
Today I wondered if the best way to use Regigigas is to simply accept Slow Start and try to go for a special set under Trick Room. That ended when I saw its movepool but if it gets Hyper Voice for STAB and Flamethrower or Ice Beam for coverage will it still be bad or rather unexplored due to the mindset of trying to get rid of its ability instead of accepting it?
What about regular weezing? Think there’s any play with it stockpiling? Maybe max health and spdef. protect stockpile. Pain split. Destiny bond? With a shuca berry.
Which is better kanto or galar wheezing with gas
I feel like Weezing is very good if it’s team doesn’t DEPEND on it being alive. He’s great support but I wouldn’t build a whole strategy around it, rather find a strategy it fits into.
One viable strat is to have some back up to remove slow start( simple beam latias, worry seed whimscott?)
Best way to run Regigigas might be with Skill Swap.. Focus Sash Skill Swap and boom. Some target options could be:
Alakazam + Magic Guard
G.Articuno + Competitive
Blissey + Serene Grace
Sigilyph + Tinted Lens
Tapu Lele + Psychic Surge (Zen Headbutt would be sick)
Hatterene + Magic Bounce
Quite a few interesting options. Still need to experiment to see what works best, but I think it could work.
I'm glad you talked about the way Slow Start halves the stats because I see almost EVERYONE getting it wrong thinking they have a decent base 80 attack.
Can you have a pokemon with "mummy" attack regigigas then due to contact changing "slow start" into "mummy"? Just a genuine question as I do not know.
What about wandering spirit?
So, what if you just skill swap Slow Start away? Won’t that turn it into a monster as well? (Not just with Weezing, with any Pokemon)
why don't we just use prankster whimsicott with worry seed to get rid of slow start from the get-go?
I agree weezing doesnt really have anything to help keep itself on the field but the combo when it does work it WORKS VERY WELL
What about using cresselia doing skill swap on weezing than switching in regigigas? Because cresselia is really bulky
Currently I'm exploring a Regi + Xatu @ Focus Sash (magic guard) team. With the Xatu having simple beam and tail wind, he makes for excellent support. You can also run him with ally switch, to mixup the opponent trying to double into Xatu, but I opted for cosmic Power + baton pass. If by some miracle they don't target Xatu after turn one, he can Cosmic power baton pass into support dragapult, with will o wisp or thunder wave + hex, providing nasty support for Regi.
I threw on Urshifu for the self sweep potential, but he can also learn coaching to help make Regi not useless if Xatu dies or gets switched out, regaining slow start.
Is a Skill Swap Regigigas combo better than this strategy? Enlighten me please
Simple Beam Latios or Worry Seed Whimsicott could be used as a backup(and arguably better) way of removing slow start from Regigigas, plus they both get Tailwind to make Regigigas even faster
Imagine using a team that 5 of its members just supporting regigigas
What about Special Regigigas in trick room? Use it's slow start to make it an effective trick roomer? Since i don't think slow start halves it's special attack
Its pretty bad as a special attacker imo with only 80 SPA
@@MoxieBoosted True. And I looked at it's movepool. No special normal moves, so you can't really choice lock it. It's special movepool is tiny. I was thinking maybe with specs it could make something happen but nah.
What if you use skill swap then the regigigas has a better ability and monster stats?
Is anyone suprised? I’m not.
Say, is it possible to Skill Swap or Worry Seed Weezing to remove Neutralizing Gas?
i guess this also applies to slaking if it was in SwSh rn? right?!
Regigigas @Flame Orb using Facade along with Galarian Weezing would do unholy amounts of damage
What I do is run gigas with Kanto Weezing with shucca berry and then have tapu fini and urshifu in the back. So I start with gigas and fini to stop burns from going up with fairy terrain and then switch into weezing and start Max striking to control speed. Another option I use is having Galarian moltres and comfey start things out and keep weezing and gigas in the back for late game sweep. It got me from beginner tier to rank 30 in a couple days of playing in between work.
Hmm I was thinking maybe have a way to “juggle” weezing around. You can lead regi + a bulky u-turn. Regi giga will have slow start so he moves last, you u-turn safely into weezing, weezing gets rid of Regis ability,then regi does full damage. You can then switch weezing out into an eject button pokemon to then switch back into weezing so regi can get another turn of damage. Maybe you can run an adamant regi with more bulk and weezing runs protect focus sash. Also use normal weezing over galar. Idk just some ideas
yeah i thought the same thing when ppl thought about the strategy when netrolizing gaz was revealed
if one mon need another mon to be good its just not worth it
maybe a team with weezing and koffing in the same team? Idk
but I dont think its a good option too
Anybody tried choice scarf swoobat using simple beam on regigigas?
If there comes a super bulky Pokémon with neutralizing gas and ingrain maybe this would work or maybe the ability changes to 2 turns
I think RegiGigas and Wheezing are still a great combo, but this puts it in better perspective. What would stop anyone from using something like worry seed or other specific ability changing methods?
Has anyone done any testing with Regigias under Trick Room? Just curious if it's viable or not.
Unless Slow Star is active, when his attack is garbage, his speed is too high for it to work without Iron Ball.
@@luizfelipevbf5567 the idea I had was that Trick Room would only be on the field while Slow Start is active. Since they both last five turns, you wouldn’t need to set it up again once it wears off.
Of course, it's not that helpful if Regigigas isn't doing any damage. To really take advantage of this strategy, you'd probably have to run a mixed set using Regigigas's Special Attack. Alternatively, stalling turns might be a better idea, as it will allow Regigigas to set up more Substitutes before getting hit.
I think the duo can work, just not the way people are currently using it. It needs to be run on a team that benefits heavily from turning off the opponent's abilities while not minding the loss of their own. A pokemon that sets up weather or terrain only needs one turn to do so, then weezing can come in (Ttar and Tapu Lele come to mind). Fast pokemon with support moves that don't need prankster to function (regieleki and the jinns) work here, and dracovish can also thrive. Regigigas would work best in the back as a late game dynamaxer in most cases methinks.
Weezing blocks so many things. It blocks intimidate, weather, fields, prankster speed control, abilities who guarantee immunities (storm drain, water absorb, lightning rod). People doesn't always realize
@@riccardogalelli7451 Right, and you can abuse stuff like that as well by doing things like turning opposing intimidates off and on to trigger your own defiants or competitives, or even trigger your own intimidate multiple times.
One thing I’ve found that’s fun is Pangoro with Entrainment and Regigigas to have it get Pangoro’s Iron Fist
The best thing to do to enable regigigas is actually to use entrainment, gastro acid, or worry seed to get rid of slow start.
I feel like people jumped on weezing specifically was because it has the added benefit of removing things like intimidate and other such abilities from the enemy's side of the field
Would weezing and slaking be a good combo if it works with regigigas, but with slaking use another pokemon for the first turn the. U turn or volt switch it in for the second so it could stop the truant
The issue with this would be that yes you could switch out Weezing every other turn and then u-turn it in safely, but then Weezing can’t protect so you still are gonna either lose Weezing making Slaking a drag on the team again, or give them free shots when it switches out for your pivot to come in.
W-w-wait.
So a base 160 attack turns into a 56 stat when halved? How? Is that what happens when burn hits?
Can you explain why I’m winning so much if it’s a bad strategy?
I'd like to know how well a Regigigas + Slowking team would go in VGC. Slowking is already a decent pokemon in VGC and has access to Skill Swap, which it wouldn't really care about having its speed and attack being dropped since its a slow special attacker. Maybe Regigas would be too much for a team like that to slot in, but it does not require Slowking to stay on, I believe once Regigas' ability gets swapped its permanent.
ive been making some moderate headway with almost this combo
i use regular weezing to minimize bad matchups
You can use an entrainment pangoro with iron fist or something
so I understand that this pairing isnt phenomenal but can you make a full 2v2 team based around them? I think it might be fun, especially since you are good at pokemon!
The strat I made myself is prankster Wimsicott using worry seed on Gigas
run facade on regigigas, it hits really hard while statused and return no longer exists in galar so it's a much more viable option
Even if regigigas' ability remembered what turn he was on, it still would lose you momentum and you wouldn't be able to run max speed max attack because he would get chipped and then not get a lot of health to work with so it would force you to run a bulky set, but then he'd be slow or not max attack because you have to invest in hp
Simple beam is probably the best idea, but it falls apart if they have a whirlwinder or something similar to force switches.
My Regigigas team in doubles:
Max ATK HP EV's
Daddy Regi:
Drain punch (Needed)
wide guard (Can be opted for other moves)
Heavy slam
Return
Item: Persim Berry
Audino(Audinite)
Simple Beam
Swagger
Heal Pulse
Return
Cybertron productions seems to be making it work quite well. Fun watching his strats.
I mean it's nothing most people couldn't figure out. If you use G-Weezing's neutralizing gas to get rid of slow start then gigas becomes dependent upon G-Weezing staying on the field and once G-Weezing gets removed, Gigas becomes dead weight. Besides that, it's an obvious combo that people have been talking about before even the first dlc dropped.
babri berry really helps weezing and taunt and will o wisp stops a lot of stuff. i also run screen support from regieleki. also run a second mode so if they have a big threat like metagross u can still win (still, ur mostly right mostly but galarian weezing is one of my fav so im gonna use it any way)
I only see 2 problems with the core regigigas + galarian weezing:
1- regigigas becomes extremely dependent on weezing, if he is weakened, regigigas worth shit, the good thing is that with the protection movement you make weezing last longer, but with so much steel, psychic and ground in the game it will be complicated
2- galarian weezing does not help anything just with the ability, it is not a good support as dusclops, indeedee, incineroar, amoongus or comfey
In the rest it is a good core if you know how to use it well, you gigamax regigigas while using protection with weezing and that regigigas eliminates the threats of steel, groundy psychic from the field
sir'fetched with simple beam+coaching plus Regigigas,so much funnnn.
Regigigas and gourgeist might be a good idea. Because gourgeist can learn trick room to take advantage of Regigigas halfed speed and it can also use worry seed on Regigigas to give him the ability insomnia. And invest Into hp and attack, and defense. Take advantage more of its bulky stats than speed for him to live more and still max invest into attack. Like 200 into hp, 252 attack, 52 defense. Slap a weakness policy on him.
Gen 9 makes this perfect because both are back and revival blessing exists, so wheezing feinting isn't as huge of a problem
That's why you have Regigigas, Galarian Weezing, and Eviolite Koffing (who also gets neutralizing gas)
Edit: Fourth can be Archeops because Archeops is fun. Or a different Pokemon who can nullify Regigigas's ability, if possible.
In fact, if you can get a non-galarian weezing, they can be weak to only psychic, so that might be helpful.
Would it still be worth it to use a move like simple beam? I mean, so that's at least one Pokémon on your team that serves a singular purpose. Depending on how fast the Pokémon is to be quick enough to use simple beam twice to transfer slow start to the opposing team, while staying alive. Yea I'll just stick to using kartana thanks.
Youre right bro, I still find one of the best things to do with weezing, is to get a double intimidate off and/or shutting down opponents abillities !
I figured this out the easy way when I fought a team with this. One shot there wheezing with Ice horses high horsepower
I love videos like this, good job, marcus.
I want to see special trick room regigigas with a physical move for when slow start ends. If trick room goes up turn one, then trick room and slow start end at the same time. 252 Atk 252 SpAtk EVs maybe? Just a concept
good shit man, been saying this to everyone who thinks they got tech
Maybe run a special regigigas in trick room? It'll hit very slow speed and it might not have amazing special attack but the bulk is phenomenal, idk if gets the coverage though
Btw you could always use cofagrigus' mummy on regigigas
What about Slaking + Weezing in UU?
What about misty surge galar weezing with eject pack into coaching riolu next to adrenaline orb regigigas
Turn 1
Wandering spirit Rune-> Self U-turn Libero scorbunny
Swap to RegiG
TrickR runerigus
Turn 2
Skill swap Rune->RegiG
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Alternatively you can skill swap turn 1 rather than TR