Nostalgia Critic is WRONG About Pirates of the Caribbean - Part 1 - A Rage-Filled Response
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Doug, what the hell?
The Nostalgia Critic, also known as Doug Walker, recently made a video "reviewing" Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl. Why say that in quotations? Because his "review" is one of the worst pieces of garbage I have seen on this platform. Stay tuned, because I will also be responding to his Dead Man's Chest review, and his At World's End review.
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The worst part of Doug’s review besides the long cringy skits is how he actively removes context from scenes to tear down films like cinema sins
YES Thank you for showing that just like cinemasins they MANIPULATE THE SCENE TO LOOK LIKE A SMART GUY WHILE HE IS A LITERAL IDIOT!!! 😡
Thank you!
That what I hate about these reviews he either cut out important scene just for a terrible or clearly dose not get of what going on.
Also it also terrible to use stock music instead of just using either covers of the theme or if it had a video game use then use the music.
@nathanblevins158 ok if don't like then why are whacting
I felt this a lot in The Loin King review, so much so that I didn't even finish it. What made it worse was that it felt he misunderstood the meaning of things on purpose for the sake of doing dumb skits or jokes.
@@Alexrun902 and that why I stop watching either because boring sketches, the boreholes or misunderstanding or what worst he insults the viewer for likening the things he reviewing.
It insulting how he make fun anyone for liking something.
The way Doug Walker reviews films, he even rips apart films he likes (or claims to like), like his review of the original "Jurassic Park", which he savages like no tomorrow despite claiming to be a fan. And insulted Jeff Goldblum multiple times.
He even got his brother Rob to impersonate Goldblum with the way he talks like in his review of The Lost World and Jurassic World Dominion and Cat & Dogs as well
@@samkresil6011 Even though it added nothing to do the review.
He made the "spare no expense" line a recurring gag throughout the review like it was a major flaw without realizing it was part of the point fo the film.
@@cinemaarts8795 Doug thinks a lot of things that were part of the point are flaws. I've never understood how anyone can miss the forest for the trees the way he does.
He’s an actor and a sensationalist, I do find him funny at times but for the most part I know what he’s doing, deliberately be as over dramatic as possible.
I never watched any of the movies until this year .for me they not perfect but a lot of fun and enjoy binge watching all of them. Barbosa has to be my favorite character hands down.
You know, i feel like there are a lot of more things to criticize the NC than this video. But there's something inherently funny about you complaining about what people think is boring is subjective and going "not funny didn't laugh" for the rest of the video. Also, you really didn't know that the random black screens were so that the CZcams ads didn't interrupt the video? I know Doug is incopetent in certain areas but even Red Letter Media does that.
If you think that's bad, you won't believe the Red Letter Media Star Wars Prequel rants.
Oh… I know how bad those are… 🤣
Dude literally thinks redeeming things about the prequels can compete with the original trilogy 😅
@@thegoodreylo4749 Indeed I was. Thanks!
@@thegoodreylo4749 That's your opinion I guess. Personally I concider his reviews to be some of the worst I've ever seen.
@@thegoodreylo4749 are you kidding, right? There was an entire 108 page long essay debunking them.
12:35 The cursed pirates can feel things. They primarily feel pain. They can't die from the pain and the injuries they sustained, but they can still feel them, even if it's just briefly. As established by Barbossa, he, along with his crew, feels nothing. But he was mainly referring to positive feelings, like the wind on his face, the splash of the sea, or the warmth of a woman's flesh.
Plus, a possible argument is based on a reactionary type of pain. That they can remember what pain feels like, as pain is easier to remember, as once you get hurt by something, you will remember the pain. But the feeling of pleasure only last so long.
So it’s emotional feeling and not physical feeling?
That doesn't make any sense either, because when Pintel is shot, and Barbossa is stabbed and shot, they show no reaction. It's just inconsistency.
@jacksondavies3595 It makes more sense compared to the scene where Elizabeth was planning to drop the amulet into the ocean. For context, when Barbossa and his pirates weren't accepting Elizabeth's deals, she threatened to drop the amulet so that they couldn't get their hands on it. Barbossa tried to call her bluff, but when she almost dropped it, the pirates flinched. The problem with this scene is what happens later on. As it was established, the crew of the Black Pearl were cursed and couldn't die. This includes their inability to drown. So, even if Elizabeth did drop the amulet, all Barbossa has to do is send his men into the ocean and search for it. The amulet wouldn't go that far, and they could've found the amulet within a few hours, if not a few days.
This exactly. Also them not feeling anything is information we get solely from Barbosa, the mutineer clearly doing a bit for intimidation purposes. I feel like the audience is supposed to go "he was bending the truth" not "the movie's got a flaw there"
@jacksondavies3595 Also, I just realized that all the injuries that the Pirates didn't react to were one that were fatal. Every other time when Barbossa and his crew react in pain from their injuries is because they were survivable. This includes to when they get shot. When Pintel and Barbossa got shot in the heart, they barely reacted, as it would've killed them if they weren't immortal. But when they sustained an injury that was survivable, they would react in pain.
14:14 I'm... pretty sure his point is that the character is written well enough that the audience cares about her.
The first three Pirates movies are absolutely God tier, among my all time favorites. Jack Sparrow really does have the best character intro ever. No one else could've done him justice.
NostalgiaCritic is just tripping balls. This video was infinitely funnier and of higher quality than his.
I totally agree, I actually can’t think of many film trilogies that are even close to being as rock solid as the POTC trilogy. Thanks for watching!
@@TheSEAempirethe lord of the rings is also one of the best trilogies ever made
Or just dumb.
I kept cracking up seeing the “Not Funny. Didn’t laugh” bit XD
If there is one thing I would like to say, you should play around with it a lot more since it definitely wont be the last time we see it
Also I could really watch you talk about pirates for ages
Thanks! I’m glad you enjoyed it!
Thank you for defending Will’s character! I have heard from a few people how boring will and Elizabeth are and I whole heartedly disagree. I love Will and it’s fun to see this dorky character who is out of his element without being played over the top. Orlando bloom is very charming and has this down to earth energy, so when he’s thrown in these over the top scenarios I actually find it to be very hilarious and relatable. I feel like casting someone like Tom Holland it wouldn’t be the same kind of funny. Also they were building up Elizabeth’s character form the beginning from this damsel in distress to someone who took charge of the situation. These two need more love lol
Also I loved At World’s End! I don’t care what anyone thinks- I love the dark turn this franchise took.
With that said (and I’m sorry for the long essay), I do think you are being a little harsh on Doug. He has stated in many of his personal videos that he is only sharing his perspective and has encouraged people to watch these movies and make their own opinion. As much as I am a fan of NC, he has ripped apart some of my favourite films (aka moulin rouge). However, he has made some good analysis- he defended films that needed defending and criticized films that needed criticism. So I don’t think it’s very fair to call him a “moron” or get angry at him for having an opinion. Also as you mentioned, art is subjective, well so is humour. I don’t laugh at all his jokes and personally I do prefer his older content, but there were a couple moments I chuckled when you put “not funny”. I thought some of it was funny. You gotta remember NC is a character, and he is a CZcamsr like yourself who is trying to make a living. I do like this review and you make some solid points but it would be nice if you could tone down the anger a bit. 😊
Yeah, this seems a bit way too harsh on Doug's review. Ironically, as I felt Doug was a bit too harsh with these films, so too was this review too harsh on Doug. Nothing's above criticism, but it's possible to go too far into needless critique and picking apart anything that even seems remotely wrong, no matter how tiny or subjective it is.
I used to really enjoy him and I was very much like him, then I grew up. I stopped watching him due to his annoying personality, then the Change the Channel controversy clinched it for me. I can’t wait to see the next two
this feels like a nostalgia critic review of a nostalgia critic video lol, nostalgia critic-ception
Doug doesn't exactly have the best track record when it comes to creativity. Remember his 'The Wall' review/parody? 💀
Just found out about all of the PotC content on your channel, and I am very excited, because I’ve been at a loss for what videos to watch regarding PotC lately, but now I have a bunch! Thanks, mate.
Thank you!
While I think Barbossa's line "I feel cold" is fantastic and incredibly poignant (BTW great job explaining why the line works so well!), I can understand what Doug means by thinking the dialogue he thought he heard was better than what was actually said.
When I was a child watching At World's End, when Will stabs Davy Jones in the chest, I thought Jones said "Missed" as in Will missed the mark of killing Jones so incredibly hard he wasn't even close. But I only found out a couple years ago that what Jones actually said was "Mister..." and then he proceeds to ask if Will forgot he was heartless. It kind of upsets me a little bit because as a kid, I thought the idea of Jones getting stabbed in the chest and then cheekily saying "Missed" just gave him another level of sass and felt very in-character for Jones.
So I can understand where Doug is coming from in this situation, but I think the actual line Barbossa says before he dies works way better.
I honestly think some people expect to much for some films and from what I seen of Doug he tends to always lead on the side of being "Against" the film which usually did lead to more views for him. He would write/show his review to try and make him look right while putting the film down sometimes to bring in the views.
I completely agree. He treats films as something with so many points that can be objectively critiqued while only using his own personal subjective takes to support his criticisms. As in, he is negative for the sake of it. Negativity sells online, and being extremely negative in videos gets clicks. Wait a minute-
@@TheSEAempire I think it worked for him 10 years ago and he just stuck to his "One thing" and has stuck around simply because he was so big back then, but he has since fizzled out.
Nowadays, why would I watch his videos rather than somebody like Sheevtalks or Local? There are plenty of people who can blend humor into their reviews while also being far more fresh, and in my opinion, even funnier. And I have tons of respect for Doug for his pioneering of a genre that is very popular on CZcams.
This is not good way to attract your audience. Im just saying, you can be critical about something, but don't make it personal.
Never did.
Source?
@@TheSEAempire did you watch your own video
Your just a big troll and not a fun one
@@TheSEAempire fu
I mean to play devils advocate here. Boring elements can make the film bad because a film is supposed to entertain. If someone finds something boring then to them it is a reflection on them seeing the film as bad in that part because it didn't entertain them.
That’s still entirely subjective, and thus has no place in a discussion of objective flaws, which criticism falls under. Yes the goal of a film is to entertain, but being entertaining cannot be quantified at all, so it should not be uttered in the same review where he’s trying (and failing) to bring up flaws in a piece of media.
@@TheSEAempire I get what you mean but criticism (in the artistic field) isnt about objectivity but rather about using objectivity to explain your own subjective judgement of whether or not you think a movie is good or bad. If you find a movie boring then there's a clear disconnect and that can be perceived as a flaw by someone but there's also the fact that someone else might see something else in it and enjoy the film. The point of criticism is to use analysis to explain your personal point of view, not about "finding objective flaws" because theres no such thing.
So the one thing ill say in defense is during the seige where Doug takes time to bring up how all the pirates are character actors and jot just random extras and uses one as an example of how much personality is in them, showing a clip of what he was refering to because not everyone would underatand the reference. which are bother interesting facts to give to show how much extra effort went into the movie compared to what is usually done so its a good thing to stop and bring up.
Fair
11:17 I think he does the blackouts so CZcams will trigger an ad.
One of the funniest memories I have is laughing for an hour over his critiques on CZcams over the sequels to the never ending story. The man 🤣 is funny.
I thought it was obvious that Jack saying "It would never have worked between us, darling" to Elizabeth was a joke that stemmed from him having a "crush" on her because she's a pretty girl. He never seemed like someone who was ever interested in any actual romantic relationship, not even with her. So, it's weird for NC to count that as a "tease" when it doesn't seem like one.
Hmm. feuding critics revival. "Don't listen to them, but to me cause their opinion isn't my opinion which should be your opinion and theirs isn't some fabricated cheap trick for views, just like mine, which is pure and honest."
Or, and here me out here: his arguments are shitty and self contradicting. Why even defend this guy?
@@TheSEAempire true but yours are just as arbitrary and subjective.
okay I'm just over 7 minutes in to this video does anyone else feels this guy is a huge hypocrite?
Massive.
@@TheSEAempire Well at least you can admit it
That was the running joke in the video.
@@TheSEAempire Identifying the problem doesn't solve it.
What about in the case of intentional self deprecating comedy?
19:46 This apparently got me thinking if they ever did a remake of Oliver, they would definitely get Geffory Rush to play Fagin. I can see that.
Funny enough, I mentioned that as a joke too. Like, if Tom Hooper wanted to add Oliver to complete his Holy Trinity of WTF musical films; i.e. Les Miserables & Cats.
I think people seem to forget that Nostalgia Critic is a character that Doug puts on. Doug is nothing like Nostalgia Critic.
After watching his other videos, he has the same opinions that the Nostalgia Critic has. The same *unfounded* opinions. I’m sure Doug is a nice guy, but being dishonest with criticism is worth calling out no matter how good of a person he might be.
Right. I just felt as though the beginning part where you rant about him felt kinda like a personal attack. Although that could have been an attack on the persona of the critic.
OR, I'm just stupid because I'm really sleep deprived right now. Either way, I don't disagree with you, I just feel like it's important to point out there IS a distinction between the two.@@TheSEAempire
“Not funny didn’t laugh”. I couldn’t stop laughing at those moments 😂. I watched nostalgia critics videos and I disagreed with a number of his “critiques”
At World's End is my favorite movie. Ever. So know that when I say I wish Barbosa had stayed dead, I'm doing a hyperbole. "I feel cold" is such a beautifully tragic line and that scene is so perfect, I can't help but feel bringing him back lowkey ruined it
I actually went and googled “young Stellan Skarsgård”, in my opinion he does not look that much like Orlando Bloom
I could easily see it, considering as well Will also had a mother. Of course a father and son won’t look 1:1 alike.
@@TheSEAempire True, but to be fair, when the first movie makes a point at how Will is the 'spitting image' of Bootstrap Bill, I expect to see someone who looks like, well, very similar looking to each other, someone I could at just a glance recognize as a father and son but I don't. At the same time, it's such a minor detail that it's really just a nitpick and not worth getting hung up about.
I acutully like some of Doug's reviews (at least his out of character ones) and i think he is a decent guy
Great video!
I agree with your points,but there are a few flaws in the video imo.
First of all, I think you took it a bit too personally, nostalgia critic is mainly playing a "Daffy duck like character" who's focused on making jokes reather than actual critique. This does NOT mean he's immune to all criticism,but the problem is that some people take his reviews seriously regardless,be they fans or haters. You seem to be reather angered by his reviews and that can cause some problems, you're reather condescending and (i feel like I used this words a million times already) angry. Considering that you accused NC's reviews of spreading misinformation and you want to correct the mistakes he made in them acting like this isn't ideal as it gives people the impression that you're taking these too seriously, hating him just because he doesn't share the same opinion,or,if they see NC as a legitimate critic,they might find the video too condescending to see the well made points.
There are also a few unnecessary parts.
The "not funny didn't laugh" bit was done too much,imo. You've said quite a few times that you didn't find NC funny, that's perfectly fine,but saying that every time he makes a joke is really unnecessary, humour is subjective,so saying that you don't find him funny doesn't really add anything to the video and could've been cut out.
As for a way to fix this, I'd recommend being a bit nicer and respectful (as hard as it may be) and not calling NC unfunny every time a joke is made.
Sorry if this was a long comment btw 😅
Oh I know Doug plays a character in his videos, and I can see how well he translates his inspirations of Daffy Duck and the Queen of Hearts into his persona. And while I can accept that he is playing a character in order to present his arguments in an entertaining fashion, we also have to admit that his points are still very poorly crafted. His other review shows where he is out of character have him bringing up similar points to other films. Hell, he even made a Disneycember video way back, and even in that he used the same criticisms here. So in this case, we know how he *actually* feels about them, and as such, it should be discussed since he is absolutely spreading misinformation. I caught him multiple times outright editing a scene to remove context, which is deciet either way you spin it. Is he doing it for the sake of comedy? Yes. Will people treat it as such? Most likely not. I have seen people parrot his points through the years, even if they are illogical or outright false. We can’t just defend these kinds of CZcamsrs with the same excuse of “parody” or “opinions”, because now we have an internet film discussion culture that is riddled with CinemaSins criticisms, Patrick Willems criticisms, Cosmonaut Variety Hour criticisms, and RedLetterMedia criticisms. Not to say that people aren’t allowed to enjoy their content, but if they have poor arguments then we shouldn’t ignore that. A spade is a spade. And yeah, it is fair that you didn’t like my jokes. It is a bit of an inside joke my friends and I use all the time but I don’t expect that everybody would take a liking to it. At the very least though it was an additive for my video, not the substance itself.
All that being said, I really appreciate the constructive criticisms, and I will make it more clear in the next video that I mean no ill will towards Doug or his channel. In retrospect I should have done that here, but the flow of the video worked better in my eyes with the intro I made, though I can see how others would disagree 👍
The biggest problem with CZcamsrs like nostalgia critic and BigJackFilms is that there trying to copy @mst3k and @TheBrandonTenold. But nostalgic critic doesn’t have what those two have. Effort put into writing it and actually funny jokes.
Even Big Jack Films has more passion than Doug Walker.
@@Godzillakingofkaiju1 yeah. And he doesn’t act like hot shit like Doug does
yeah big jack films does have more passion than Doug walker and I admire that big jack films is one of my biggest inspiration for becoming a movie reviewer myself well both him and James Rolfe
12:05 I mean... he's just praising the movie for the things it does right. Isn't that what critics are supposed to do, especially in today's age when online critics try to veer away from being too negative?
No. Just no. Doug wouldn't know what a film gets right if Roger Ebert personally walked him through a film, explaining how the pieces fit together into a greater whole, because he's just that stupid.
16:42 I think its because Doug always makes that faces whenever he tries to make a point whenever he reviews a film, even particularly in his review for The Simpsons Movie where he literally lets a shot of his reaction hold for a just couple of seconds when making a joke out of a scene.
Even though it wasn’t funny.
@@prehistorichero2755 Yeah and he even tried to make it funny
@@prehistorichero2755 But did that deliberately, too
I can understand his criticisms on pirates 2 and 3 but I think he way to harsh on these two. I really think they're just fun movies. I agree that at World End drag on in some moments but it literally pay off in the end. 4 and fifth, no thank you. They should have end At World End in my opinions.
Yeah, I can get behind that. And some of his criticisms are pretty solid for DMC and AWE, though they are sadly muddied by his… really awful criticisms as well. Thanks for watching!
You do sorta being harsh on him but I get it. You were right about some of his "shitty stuff". I just prefer more civil conversation.
Yeah, that is fair. It is all in good fun though, I have tons of respect for the guy with how much he has pioneered online.
Oooo good. I've wanted to hear someone righteously defending the Pirates of the Caribbean movies --- ALL OF THEM!
I've heard people say that only the first one was good.
And for me, if it wasn't for the lack of Barbosa, #2 would be my favorite, or might actually be my favorite of them.
Even after I unsubscribed to his channel after his Fallen Kingdom review, I realized how Channel Awesome became more greedier by the time he “reviews” popular films even when they’re released currently, such as Puss in Boots: The Last Wish.
oh yeah because apparently talking about a movie that every one else is talking about and cashing in on suddenly makes specifically him greedy ?
@@cathykurlemann5289 Okay, just tell me what you’re talking about and don’t you dare ignore me!
I’ll be more clear if you think he’s greedy that’s fine I won’t judge you. Sorry for coming across as mean I just personally think making videos about movies that are currently popular isn’t very greedy but if you do that’s fine.
@@cathykurlemann5289 But these movies aren’t nostalgic as he’s supposed to be Nostalgia Critic. And given the fact he’s losing so much money due to productions of Demo Reel, this is what I’m talking about. He isn’t bringing back the Nostalgia Critic for the fans, he’s doing it for the money.
I didn’t mind his newer videos even though they are very hit and miss for me it not instill now where beginning to realize that yeah he is only going cash he has no passion for making videos like he used to back in the day
What do you think of his dark toons series?
Acually whats the issue with him saying he likes the pirates. Isnt it important too also explain good things when you critic a movie?
He’s explaining something he likes rather than an objectively good quality of the film, and I don’t care what he does or doesn’t like in a review of a films quality.
If the nostalgia critic can’t get something’s right about a popular movie like pirates of the Caribbean or lord of the rings then the fandoms will go after him
24:00 - 24:31 Yeah, it's called Mulan (2020).
I'm still ashamed I took his word as gospel for so many years, haven't been a fan since 2020
5:42- This is basically the same mindset I had in response to that stupid 'The Nostalgia Critic tie' joke in his Rover Dangerfield review. Yeah, because he's totally the first celebrity to ever wear a red tie. It's not like that was specifically based on the red tie Rodney Dangerfield wore for his standup. Even though that is just a dumb, silly little joke, it comes off as kind of arrogant.
I used to like Nostalgia Critic, but it just got boring.
"There might be some strong language used in this video....
Me: I AM SO IN!
12:37 i just wanted to say here. Under the curse im pretty sure they can feel pain still becuase barbosa does react to it if i remember right. I dont think they would feel it for very long. I mean through out the whole movie barbosas men get hurt and knocked out so i think the fire bit is justified
Will you also do his reviews of movie 4 and 5?
Probably not, since I would say only 1-3 really deserve defending. If I watch his 4 and 5 reviews and they turn out awful, I might defend them, but I doubt it.
@@TheSEAempire Personally, I can enjoy 4 and 5 despite their flaws, but I think his "reviews" would give you enough material even if you don't like the movies
This is why people prefer the Angry Video game nerd instead. Nostalgic Critic used to be funny but not anymore. His recent videos are very stale.
He used to be funny until the end of his "war" with AVGN. Even his old "reviews" like TMNT 2007 and Dardevil are pile of crap where he still doesn't want to do a research so it won't prevent his cringey attempts at humor and criticism
@@ashesGeek Ooof
Maybe but then again given AVGN and his plagiarism that he never really apologize for...
Dudes old but hey there's always nostalgia there lol
[*]Ok, I meant to point this out MUCH sooner, also hi again, but what he meant was, for him, there was TOO MUCH exposition. Is he right? Well, that's subjective. But how he worded it, and edited it was awful. So, it's his opinion, he just worded it horrifically. But, everything else is on point, good job once more![*]
I've been a fan since 2013, Yes he helped create the Movie Hate CZcams Trend. I watch him with a pinch of objective salt, I rarely agree with him, and sometimes he makes a follow up review where he expresses his actual views on a film, he does try to distinguish the difference between Doug Walker and Doug The Nostalgia Critic.
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He has openly admitted that his Nostalgia Critic Reviews are often full of hyperbole and opinions are over inflated and intended to fit the narrative of The Nostalgia Critic. Basically he exaggerates his criticisms and is nitpicky to be "comedic".
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I definitely disagree with his reviews of the first three POTC films. I'm with the minority opinion of having At Worlds End as my favorite Pirate's film.
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I love mythology and lore, I love it when a film series goes dark and attempts to grow the franchise. I can't believe just how dark and violent A.W.E. is, it is the closest that Disney (Under the Brand) has ever gotten towards an R-Rated film.
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Disney has never made anything that is so graphic in its violence, themes and overall design of the film. From the dirt and grime on the Pirates to the awesome, impressive and gooey effects and designs for the crew of The Flying Dutchman and Davey Jones, the aesthetics of the film are beautiful in all of its GORE Verbinski madness.
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The sequels are closely approaching their 20th anniversaries and every frame of the films hold up so well, they could be released today. Davey Jones's design alone is comparable to any CGI character in any movie that's been released in the past decade. Well maybe not against Avatar 2, but he looks as good as Thanos, Caesar in the Planet of the Apes Trilogy, and miles better than She-Hulk, Thanos's henchmen or Darkseid and Steppenwolf (Josstice League or Znyder Cut).
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Stranger Tides and Dead Men Tell No Tales (to a lesser extent) lost their artistic creativity that Gore brought to the franchise. They at least tired to bring back creative effects for the latter film, but the original trilogy feels more tangible, substantial and consistent.
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I like Doug and The Nostalgia Critic for who they are, understanding that he's reaching for criticisms from a perspective of making jokes. But I much more enjoy the episodes where he just talks about something that he likes and appreciates, i feel like those episodes are more honest and authentic, but because of the algorithm, his positive review episodes get less engagement.
Them holding the boat down isn’t a flaw within the film. It’s a fantastical adventure that doesn’t require a strict adherence to real life physics.
While I would agree with this, it’s something that is an inconsistency within the narrative. If this boat can be held underwater, how can ships float? Now, admittedly it’s an extremely small flaw that is basically a nitpick, and I wouldn’t even bother bringing it up in conversation about the film otherwise, but I pointed it out in this video since it’s technically a valid flaw but Doug brushed it off, while he made up fake flaws and claimed they were true.
@@TheSEAempire That’s fair.
Hopefully I didn’t come across too negative, I actually really appreciate this video. There’s not enough response videos to Doug’s terrible reviews.
Keep it up. 👍
Thanks for the support!
I love your videos and Doug’s…
Parlay?
Seriously though, I feel like he’s been pretty harsh on these films. Most of the time I enjoy his takes, and I can agree to disagree. The Pirates films are my Star Wars, and honestly they’re much more enjoyable than Star Wars 😅. The fifth movie I feel like misunderstands the characters, especially after everything Jack and Barbosa had gone through, and they remove so much of the mystique of Jack’s character and turn Barbosa into “Argh, Me Treasure!” But 1-4 are great. I watch On Stranger Tides more than the original trilogy even, it’s a nice self sufficient adventure with incredible set pieces and character work.
Fair enough. I do sometimes get a kick out of the odd video of his, so I can see where you are coming from. And yeah at this point, I would say Pirates is my Star Wars as well haha. I am glad that you still watched my video even without fully agreeing with what I have to say 😎👍
4:19 I kinda like this music in fact this theme is from my childhood games
I agree with you but Doug criticising Will and Elizabeth being the weakist part of the franchise is valid every fan of the movies always say this including me and he does make good points on Orlando bloom casting and character
How are they the weakest when there is nothing functionally wrong with their characters? Like I said, you can find them personally not interesting, but that is not a fault of the film, it’s an opinion. Opinions do not dictate quality.
@@TheSEAempire didn't say they were weak characters but they were weakist part of the first movie in terms of entertainment they still play there roles fine being the serious characters to everything going on
@seanchukwuezi3079 They're the weakest part of the franchise? Yeah, they're just the main characters and their story is what makes the the first three films work. "But Jack is the bestest character." If Jack was the best then the 4th and 5th movies should be the best ones since they're all about Jack, except they're not, they suck.
Good thing I stopped watching Doug years ago.
While i do agree with your disdain for the 4th and 5th film i enjoyed them to an extent, while 5 felt like a remaster of the first one but 4 was interesting to me and it had the most brutal on screen death of probably any disney movie, but like i said i agree with your disdain.
I would not be surprised if you made a response to nostalgia critic’s so called review of Hulk 2003.
1:59 - 3:53 Gonna be saving this. As a storyteller I'll take what I can get.
I always seen him as a content creator not a critic, even though he's influencial
I am very indifferent to Doug and his work. On one hand there are many things that he has said in the past about films that are true and make a whole lot of sense, and back in his hay day I used to really like his work. But after like 2019 I started to really hate him. I just reached 18 at the time and I really started to resent a lot of the ignorant and idiotic things he said about a lot of films I hold dear. Like sometimes he would state things that were flat-out wrong if you pay attention for like five seconds or could be debunked by using the little device in your head called your brain. I hold some sort of nostalgic feeling for his work because I watched it while growing up but at the same time, his work has gone from being funny and sometimes providing good criticism to just boring, unfunny, and VERY poorly researched.
Doug says he thinks a critic should be entertaining and funny and offer an interesting point of view. But Doug ONLY ever goes for being funny and he fails at that. Every now and then he will bring up a good point but they are very few and far between. I am very indifferent about his work now because I hold some enjoyment when I watch his reviews but at the same time all these problems start arising whenever he mentions something that is flat-out wrong. It is so infuriating when he does things like that.
These pirates of the Caribbean videos that I watched were fine, at the absolute most and HORRIBLE at the absolute worst. Some things he says are true, like Barbosa having a serious hatred towards Jack and some other certain things but damn this video did piss me off when I watched it for the first time. It really annoyed me. I think after these reviews I am done watching new videos by him. I think I will either stop watching his videos altogether or just watch old videos of him.
Oh and sorry I barely talked about your video itself XD. I guess I just had a lot of irritation to get off my chance and this was a good way to get it out there. This video you made is very good and very truthful. More truthful than any of Doug's videos anyway. Also, it is funny to me that you are far more truthful than Doug despite LITERALLY HAVING LESS SUBSCRIBERS.
Very odd to say the least.
Anyway, good video and I can't wait for part 2. :)
Also sorry long as shit comment. :)
20:40 ... ... ... It was a pun! I guess if he said: "She discovers the crew is working a graveyard shift", you would've corrected him about them being pirates and therefore no stipulated shifts of work?
I realize. It just wasn’t funny.
@@TheSEAempire And yet every other time you had that monkey reaction, and only this time bothered to complain about it. Come on, it's ok to admit you didn't get it.
I tried to avoid going back to back to back with “not funny, didn’t laugh” reactions, but feel free to keep defending Doug Walker of all people 💀
12:48 for me personally my head cannon is that it’s not the fact they can’t feel anything but more the fact they can’t change the way they feel
Like barbosa said, he feels hungry but can’t change it, he feels thirsty but can’t change it, I think this was the point of the curse to make them suffer by making them only feel the worst things unable to change it
So when they get hit or burned they still feel pain because the curse wants them to suffer, and even when barbosa gets stabbed I think he didn’t react because he was just so use to the pain that it no longer effected him
But that’s just my theory on it
Can you do pirates 4 please?
I agree that the first 3 were the best and the last 2 weren't as good but I still have so much love for every single one of them and i appreciate the awesome defense against the nostalgia critic
Don't take NC too seriously. He can be funny sometimes.
Dead man's chest is the best of the series
If you don't like Nostalgia Critic, why are you taking about him?
Because I’m the only person on the internet who makes videos on this franchise, and I want discussion surrounding these films to be honest and objective, rather than being muddied in garbage talking points like so many other franchises.
If you dislike the topic of this video, why did you bother to comment on it?
If you dislike the movie why make a movie review
this video feels like everything wrong with cinema sins from theb3rdman
why did they lose their shit here 14:03
when they can do this 26:44
Why does Nostalgia Critic’s voice occasionally go very high pitched? Do his balls go back in?
Your not wrong in saying will is written as a newbie, guffball with noble intensions, because how i kind of see it now, he kind of represent two idears that 1. He is new and way out of water in the pirate world in the story alone. And 2, he also at least to me, represent us viewers in a way that we also much like will dont know the world of pirates, their norms or rules or how they act. So yeah will could be eyecandy if you see the movie as an older aurdiens or dont care much for the story, okay.
But to me who saw it when i still was a kid it was throu him you get the introduktion to this pirateworld i myself fell in love with and throu will you go on this journey to learn more about the pirateworld. So you could say these films started my pirate phase that i havent put down to this day.
"will is boring"
me:to quote a mexican doom youtuber "look everyone is entitled to have their own opinions... EVEN THO YOU ARE FUCKING WRONG"
Yep you just summd up why people like illuminations mario bros movie it looks good visually with nostalgia and easter egg and references scattered across the entire film with a horribly written story
How is super Mario bros movie horrible written the story may be simple but what wrong with that story being simple does mean it badly written not every story in film needs to the most complex story know what you are saying before you said
@henrymockingbird9645 the entire plot is shallow. Being simple doesn't mean that it's always good if dine lazy none of the subplots goes anywhere. The characters are horribly written as they don't act like how they're supposed to the jokes aren't funny. The dialog is shallow, nothing like what the Super mario Bros. games are when it comes to wording building character building and, of course, the plot
@@ciscovaiese7535 what do you mean none of super Mario bros are not poorly written most of characters act what they supposed to act and should the video games were never complex it never had big character or world building the games are simple just a plumber saving a someone from a dragon it super Mario bros not final fantasy
@@ciscovaiese7535 your not even a writer so how hell do you know the difference between bad writing or good writing it you say things mean something but in reality you saying nothing
@henrymockingbird9645 No, I know the difference between good writing and bad writing
Good writing: cohesive story, less plot holes, good character development, good dailouge, and good character writing
Bad writing lazy uncohisve story, a lot of plat holes, poor character development, terrible dailouge , and horrible character writing
he should rename himself into NostalgiaOPINION😂
I don’t mean to be rude, and I appreciate the criticism of his work, but I’ll admit the not funny didn’t laugh kinda got a tad played out by time three
Fair
@@TheSEAempire I will say part two still had the same joke but it wasn’t used as much, so at least I know my one complaint was handle (as you tend to be more fair to Doug when he makes a valid point then most)
did bro just say a film being boring doesnt make it bad?
Correct, because “bad” is a qualifying statement and a value judgement, something that needs backing evidence. Boring is on the part of an audience member and begins and ends with them.
@@TheSEAempire why are you so focused on scientifically proving if the movie is good or not. A review is an oppinion piece
Oh you seem to think opinions can’t be criticized, how cute. If he’s within his right to have his opinion, I’m well within my rights to criticize it for being based on incorrect information. If this is his best soldier, god help him.
@@TheSEAempire i meant as in the example of elizabeth and will being boring. It's fine for him to have that oppinion. I myself think they arent as interesting as barbosa or jack sparrow. They are more grounded so that you can relate to them and see this insane pirateworld through their eyes
And that’s fine, but not worth noting in a review where he’s also discussing things in an objective sense. As a (self described) critic he should not conflate the two, and especially later on, he should absolutely NOT let his bias against them seep into the conversation to the point of lying about them. That’s just disingenuous argumentation, and something that should discredit his takes in general if he’s going to be that flippant.
Will is a foil to Jack... Any movie with dual leads has two, opposite lead characters. Will's character grounds this movie and gives the story WEIGHT. Otherwise it's just a guy who wants his ship back - it wouldn't create viewer buy-in.
It's very clear Nostalgia Critic is out of ideas and would do anything for views...
This is like Wednesday witnessing Enid talking about anything related to instagram
the trilogy are great, the last two are kinda bad
Bloody truth!
Ok, so I certanly don't always agree with all of Doug's takes, but your cristicism of his Pirates review feels less like you're giving constructive cristicism and more like he murdered your parents.
They aren’t meant to be constructive, because I know he will never watch my video nor will he ever care to make better videos. It’s supposed to call him out for his bullshit. I think you’ve mistaken my intentions.
@@TheSEAempire Oh alright, that makes sense.
i get him but the chikago war thing was a little bite wierd
Chicago*
Wow........someone has issues..........
Yeah, I despise liars and bad-faith argumentation.
@@TheSEAempire Uhhhh...I wasn't talkin' about Doug.....
I’m well aware.
Pirates 3 is Mt favorite
Nostalgia critic needs to learn there fans and please you may not watch his review on sailor moon in some parts of the review he gets creepy
I agree dead man's chest is great, but the third one grinds to a halt in the second half.
What do you mean by that?
@@TheSEAempire I think dead man's chest is a great movie, and that I was bored during the second half of the worlds end (After they rescue jack sparrow).
I mean fair, we all have different tastes. Though I only really discuss objective issues and such, hence why I gave Doug so much shit for calling himself a critic while not being objective in his analysis.
@@TheSEAempire I mean fair enough but if you find a movie boring you can say it's bad in your critique. In the end the only thing that matters in a movie is your enjoyment of it.
Well for a casual audience member absolutely, but a critic is supposed to be impartial and discuss the craft beyond personal enjoyment. Otherwise they pretty much self-invalidate their own career.
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its an orlando bloom
throw him back
(ngl that was funny)
although if i'm being honest you may not agree with me but I kinda enjoyed on stranger tides and dead men tell no tales not as much as he first three but they were enjoyable none the less
Nice video man! Good job.
Thanks!
The subtitle is kind of misleading a bit since its not actually the pearl that's cursed, it's the gold.
First of all, COMEDY IS SUBJECTIVE! If you don’t like Doug’s humor, that’s on YOU
Second, even if his jokes don’t work, his facial expressions and his voice are still entertaining.
Third, he reviews movies for CZcams, not Hollywood, why are you expecting perfect effects for a COMEDY REVIEW SHOW?!
Fourth, I don’t always agree with his criticism, but I almost always see why thinks the he thinks, he’s passionate and cares about the media like EVERY OTHER CZcamsR! Everyone has the right to their opinions. So stop acting like your above him because your NOT. >:(
Fifth, his black edits are spots for CZcams ads.
Sixth, he does Charity shoutouts at the end of his videos. And he’s not as cynical or harsh as he is on Twitch. He is a nice person, and your cruel and childish insults hurt you case more than it helps it
Unironically defending Nostalgia Critic 💀
I’m just calling out when people are needlessly cruel on people just offering unique points of view. It’s LITERALLY the first amendment! Being a bully is a choice, is that the kind of person you wanna be? Cause Doug isn’t and you know it.
The first amendment protects you from the government enforcing its will on you for your religious or personal beliefs. It has nothing to do with random jackasses online making videos. If Doug has the freedom to make the dumbest fucking points known to man, I have every right to respond how I please. If you are soooo upset with me supposedly suppressing his rights, maybe take a step back and understand that its a video by a guy with 3000 subscribers mocking a guy with a million. Bigger fish to fry, don’t die on this stupid hill and make yourself look more like a dumbass.
@@noahzinar1178you should report him this channel for harassment.
So by this logic of consistency, not contradicting itself, having good character motivations and progression of said characters, and no plot holes, by this very logic: Batman & Robin is a good movie.
I have not seen it since I was a kid, but for all I know it could be. I remember it having a fuckton of plot holes though, even as a kid.
@@TheSEAempire It's supposed to be an over-the-top comic book movie, and also more like a big budget version of the Adam West 60's series. Not to be taken seriously. I recently re-watched it, and it's pretty good, and in truth I consider it to be the Best Batman film.
@@TheSEAempire I realized alot of the complaints people have about Batman & Robin are general nit picks
@@OfficialRaveBlitz I think Batman & Robin was really fun!
This movie was awesome 😊
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bro everything you say is true when will you do part 2?🤔
Something that I've never understood is why critics say the fourth and fifth films are convoluted. Sure, Dead Man's Chest and At World's End were a bit layered, but how can those be convoluted when they got more simple? I'm beginning to think they didn't even try to focus and just blame the movies for it. That would be an explanation for Doug's lack of understanding of the whole franchise.
I dont think he was lying; the Walker brothers are just incredibly stupid people. You should sample a couple of their Avatar blogs. They consistently get obvious things wrong mere minutes after viewing a episode
good video is it ok if I ask you a question?
Sure.
of have you heard of a game series called fire emblem?
Yes, though I’ve never played it.
@@TheSEAempire ok if you do i recommend three houses because its holds a lots very interesting things in it and what inspired it.
@@TheSEAempire ps have you also heard of dragon dogma?
I just don’t take anything he says seriously and just watch to see what happens