England's biggest team WITHOUT a TROPHY?
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- čas přidán 14. 12. 2022
- Have Watford Football Club ever won a trophy? Well... kind of.
Legends like John Barnes, Luther Blissett and Graham Taylor helped to take Watford to places they've never been before but they've still never won a major trophy.
I took a look around Vicarage Road and even got a stadium tour inside Elton John's favourite club!
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What other big clubs can you think of that haven't won a major trophy?
Brentford
Brentford aren't a big club.
I think maybe Fulham
@@bmrcfc That's quite surprising considering the club's heritage and notable former players.
Crystal Palace
Watford will still be my team for life even if they never win any trophies in my lifetime
Same
Proper supporter. Respect 🙏
Darn right! Would be nice though!
Same
Me too although it’s bloody hard at times lol 😂
As a 43 year old fan who watched my first game in 1986 I find this kind of summary amusing. It's something the big clubs are obsessive about (Man United, Liverpool etc) but has never been something on mine and I assume any other Watford fans radar. In reality, we have been punching well above our weight for many years, the fact we have spent 6 of the last 7 years in the top flight is a success in itself. Just look at the big clubs: Sheffield Wednesday etc who have been scraping around in league 1 for years. We have had many successes over the years, promotions as runners up and through the play offs, an FA Cup Final appearance in 2018,.along with some great victories in the league against the top sides. As fans we take huge pride in those successes and there are many teams who would love to be in our position. COYH.
You orns🐝
They just signed a local Canadian, so now I’m a fan. 🇨🇦👍
We’re excited to see Ismael Kone play.
Kone looked class in the WC, hopefully he can fill a vacancy in our midfield
@@AB-oc7wj I mean we only have 1 actual fit midfielder at the moment, so he can only be an improvement
You weren’t disrespectful to us at all! As a Watford fan, we might not have won a major trophy, but it’s the “DEENEY” moments that yellows value and although we get a bad rep from the media, we really are an inclusive club, always first in representing LGBT community AND black players throughout our history
I’m not sure if anyones mentioned it. In the season 82-83 Watford actually beat Liverpool the newly crowned champions 2-1 on the final day of the season to finish 2nd.
In the first season I. The prem after 3 consecutive promotions
As a fan of Sparta Prague, I heard about Sparta's matches with Watford in the third round of the UEFA Cup in 1983. At that time, Elton John was the owner of Watford. Sparta won 2-3 at Vicarage Road and still Elton John behaved like an absolute gentleman. The players who played for Sparta at that time still remember him coming to the booth, shaking everyone's hand and giving them his record. Watford then lost 4:0 in Prague. But each of the players remembers how gentlemanly Elton behaved even in a situation where his team lost.
I’ve been watching you for so long , and you’ve finally come to Watford . Lots of love for the video 👍
St Johnstone almost went out of business in 1986 and are only three years younger than Watford. It took us until 2014 to lift our first major trophy then seven years further on we won our second and third in the same season. Keep pushing at that glass ceiling brothers.
Thank you brother for the nice remarks hopefully we will win a major trophy soon but the pozzo's sack to many managers not good for us I love scotland from an Englishman
Depends on how you define a major trophy. I'm a Palace fan, and as mentioned before, we won the ZDS Cup in 1991, but is it a major trophy? I'd say no, so we're in the same boat as Watford; a couple of lower-league titles, a couple of FA Cup final defeats but that's it.
Can't believe he's saying Watford are a big club. We're a small club that punches well above our weight
@@robcmore2004 we have been a small club punching above our weight but for 40 years now aside from 2 seasons we have been in top 2 divisions. Its seeped into consciousness of that we are a top 30 club.
Palace are definitely a bigger club without a trophy than Watford
The first team in the UK to have an electronic scoreboard.
How the world has changed.
Interesting fact indeed
My first Watford march was Easter 1967. Been a fan ever since.
So cool to be able to see behind the scenes of clubs
Thanks to the host for the hours and countless miles and hotels putting the vlogs together. A true gent and a credit to football.
Top marks to the folks at Watford for being so accomodating at short notice ! Nice to hear, I had a similar experience at Fulham a few years ago when they were in the Premier League, just keep smiling and asking the question ....
Love watching your videos and hearing a mention for Greenock Morton 😄
Keep up your great work Sam 👏👏👏
As someone who started following Watford in 1968 with my dad in those days the ambition was just to stay in the football league rather than winning anything! Under Graham Taylor Watford massively overachieved and since then fans have had (pretty unrealistic) expectations of winning things! The club now is a long way from what it was in every way, full of journeyman foreign players and a board who couldn’t run a bath.
Love your vids mate keep it up👍🏻
Thanks, will do!
Love how you go all round the UK 👏
I remember the fa cup final wi Everton and one thing that sticks in my memory is after they lost on the tv they were sayin hard luck Watford and showing there run to the final there best bit and the song they played to it just to piss the Watford fans more was I guess that’s why they call it the blues by Elton John I will never forget that ..Nice one Sam 🙂🇾🇪🇾🇪🇾🇪✌️🔰🔰
No need to worry about looking disrespectful etc, mate! We know you mean well in all of your videos! It's really interesting that we are the oldest club without a major honour, but we are proud of our club.
I don't suspect I'll ever see Watford win a major honour in my lifetime, but you just never know.
Great Vid mate! Love your videos on different stadiums and clubs learn a lot about clubs I didn’t know about, should check out Ipswich, Portman Road fantastic stadium blend of new and old we have a great history you’d love it.
Cheers Matt! I have a new video coming tonight after the world cup too.
I definitely need to come to Ipswich, been meaning to for ages!
@@FootyAdventures brilliant will look out for it tonight!
Yes definitely since the new ownership last year they have really invested in the stadium brining it into the 21st century and really celebrating our history than was ever done before on and in the stadium but away keep up the brilliant work man 🙌🏻
Glad my club were hospitable and showed you around :)
We haven't won a major trophy, but in Harry the Hornet, we do have the best mascot.
Watford is a great football club with a real family club feel to it
Yes we won the fourth division title 77-78 thank you, my first game 2/1/ 1960 so you could say I am a supporter and proud and now my son is a supporter it’s in the blood 🩸
Nice video.
Is The Red lion pub still theere?
Yes.
Neat video. Thank you
Been a Watford fan my whole life. Seen some close calls but none yet
Great video Sam - Watford are my second team
Hi, I'm a Watford fan. The club gets a lot of criticism (sometimes justified) from the media regarding their record of firing head coaches. This video is an example of the good side of the club that rarely gets mentioned, going out of their way to show you around the stadium which most clubs would decline. They do great work in the community. If you liked the artwork check out Murwalls that have done other football art around the country.
Doesn't seem to have much going for it as a club. Even the club badge is weird, looks like a moose, which don't even exist in the UK. Yes it's supposed to be a deer, but it looks like a flipping moose! Just use a picture of a deer stag ffs!
@@mk1aquatic739 it's supposed to be a hornet🤷♂️
@@mk1aquatic739 our badge was design by a Canadian who didn't know what a Hert was so he just did a moose instead, wierd I know but we just find it funny now
Hows it going Sam. Been watching you for a while and saw your vlogs you posted during the summer on the League of Ireland and Sligo Rovers. You didnt get to a Rovers game during your time and I am wondering if you have any interest in coming to our first home game next season vs Shamrock Rovers? It would be on the 18th of February. Always a good atmosphere vs shams. Hopefully you see this, and keep up the good work. Road to 150k❤
Damn Sam was so local to me!!
It all depends on how you define 'big team.' Do you mean they have a larger squad of players than other teams? Do you mean that their owners have more financial muscle than others? Or do you mean that their ground capacity is bigger than any other club to never win anything?
Crystal Palace have a bigger stadium capacity and have never won a major trophy.
Would love to see you do a video on Colchester united club in Britain Oldest town
as a palace fan we havent either
Zenith Data Systems Cup counts mate ❤️💙
@@GJ.538 also known as the Full Members Cup and was instituted during the years English teams were banned from Europe but was open to all 4 divisions and even Reading won this.
@@GJ.538
You cant count that as a major trophy next thing you will be claiming The Anglo - Italian Cup &
Texaco Cup where major trophies lol.
@@bluevan12 It was only open to clubs who were *_full_* members of the Football League, i.e. the top two divisions. Reading were a Division Two club when they won it.
Associate members, i.e. clubs from Divisions Three and Four contested the Associate Members Cup.
@@georgerubypoppy1063 Went to the 88 Simod Cup final at Wembley between Reading and 1st division Luton Town it was a crazy few weeks for Luton Town this final normally would of been huge for the Hatters but they were in a month they contested an FA Cup semi final against Wimbledon and then the 100 year Football league centenary tournament at Wembley vs Manchester United and then after losing in all 3 matches in the last chance saloon managed to defeat Arsenal in the Littlewoods Cup final 3-2 coming back from 2-1 down and a penalty that would of made it 3-1 unbelievable scenes Luton won 🏆 and were so good they got to the final again the season after
watford fan, was not offended, just nice to see something about watford that isn't about us going through managers like underpants
This is awesome......hoping you can do some Bedfordshire ones Sonos....
Luton town
Bedford town
Dunstable
Real Bedford
You could have walked through their training ground. It’s got a public footpath right through it.
Plus it’s next to arsenals - surely the closest training grounds to each other. Must be a video in that!
legends
Really nice guy hosting the tour 🤣 Like pulling teeth!
Some folk don’t like cameras I guess, he was still friendly and informative
Cracking video.
You should visit Stevenage next!
Have Watford sacked their manager.
Watford and Udinese have that friendship the Watford fans are use to and are use to sacking the manager.
Watford training ground is near to arsenal training ground
You should go A.F.C. Wimbledon, they have good history and are fan owned.
Raynes park vale are non league and you do like some of the lower league teams. 😊
Good video Sam :)
There were two third divisions they were in the third division south which is why they are all southern based teams.
Thanks for the video , come on you horns
Winning the championship this year tho 🎉🎉🎉
No lol
Really?? How's that going
Just got to point out that Watford, like many clubs, was formed by the amalgamation of two or more local football clubs.
Most clubs call this their date of formation and so did Watford originally and I have Watford programmes from the 1950’s and 1960’s that show their formation as 1898 and 1891 but fairly recently they have decided to claim the date of the earliest club in the amalgamation as their formation. If every football league team used the same criteria then they would all have come into existence decades before they truly had.
Secret Boyzone fan Sam ?😂
Lovely stadium actually tho.
Once a Horn always a Horn 👍🐝🐝
Could you please do millwall please 🙏🙏
No annoyance here mate, very proud of our history - great video!
Another stat: Sheffield United are the biggest club in England to have never even been in an FA Cup or League Cup final since the war. Watford reached a FA cup final in 85. Been in 5 play-off finals though but lost them all, think we've the worse play-off record in England.
Defo need to do Ipswich 🔵⚪️
Neither have Palace
Maybe you could do a video on clubs who punch above their weight?
That’s a good shout
@@JamesBond-si7xs like the mighty Luton Town.
Bristol City have won the Welsh Cup, which is technically a major trophy, but in real terms they've won almost nothing at all. A Second Division title over a century ago. First Division runners up and FA Cup finalists almost as long ago.
I am a Watford super fan
I'm a Greek Watford fan
I'm sure Watford will win a major trophy, but I think it's gonna be a long, long time.
I see what you did there
Watford where always in the low divisions in my life time they only in last few years they have got to the top
You must be bloody old, they’ve been in the top 2 divisions for all but 2 of the last 44 years!
@@Echoes1910 I made a mistake championship on and off IAM only a Bolton Wanderers fan
@@andrewbush3744 you are a Bolton fan not only a Bolton fan, a great club with great history Bolton.
@@Echoes1910 thanks mate we where In the first FA cup final at Wembley 1923 white horse
We won The Herts Senior Cup, didn't we?!
That's kind of you
So, is it Covid or is it Sam being #bigtime that means he now gets an impromptu tour of Watford when he used to not get in Scottish Non League Grounds? 😁Very well deserved buddy
A tour of Watford is hardly big-time which is why he can get in there but may struggle to enter a Scottish Non League Grounds.
You have never heard of Grimphorp Town
Watford: the biggest English team never to have won a major trophy? Apologies due to Fulham, Crystal Palace, Brighton? 🤔 Anyway, Watford aren't even the biggest team in Hertfordshire. Everyone knows that's St Albans City!🤣🤣🤣
steady on old boy,we won the charity shield in 1910
Video wasn't at all disrespectful. Supporting Watford isn't about vying for the trophies (Though not saying we shouldn't therefore keep trying to get one. Eventually!) but the game to game moments, community and friends formed from it. Sometimes maybe good, sometimes maybe shit. Been a Season Ticket holder when Gianlucca Vialla was in charge (Didn't go well that Season) and although it's a funny stat that can be rightfully levelled at us, misses the point about supporting us as well.
What about the biggest English team that has NEVER won ANY trophy, ie not a Zenith cup, or Division champions, or even an FA Vase? I don't know the answer, but I'd love to know it. It was a question in an impossible pub quiz I went to a while ago and I can't actually remember the answer. I've been trying to recall it. (ACTUALLY, I remember the answer now, it was Rochdale, but in the next week's pub quiz someone pointed out that Rochdale won the Lancashire Cup, which was an actual trophy. So there must be still a team out there. I think there are NONE in the top four divisions)
Definitely not the oldest not to win a major trophy. My club, Fulham, is the oldest club in London and have never won a major trophy (unless you include the Championship). There are certainly others around the country. Not sure Watford or Fulham would be seen as really big clubs though.
Was surprised about that, runners up in FA Cup and Europa, but not winners.
I think he is counting the championship, I certainly consider this a major trophy
@@Echoes1910 nah, no chance is that a major trophy
@@Echoes1910 FA Cup, League Cup, Premiership/ Div 1, UEFA competitions are what most people regard as major trophies
No I’d say it’s Crystal Palace. Easily
watford played in Europe in the 80's
Wow! Who did watfud beat in the Herts county cup? Ashwell maybe? Or was it a big club like Bushey!!!!
Bushey Rangers ! 🎉come on you Blues!
Plymouth and. Bristol Rovers have bigger fan bases
They also don’t have Arsenal & Spurs on their doorstep either.
Live in Aylesbury, support the hornets.
Did you go to my team QPR
Oh come on my lot fulham have never won a major cup , lost every final we’ve been in lol , 👍
Lol Watford the David Tua of football
Two FA Cup Finals and a 2nd place finish to Liverpool in the league 😢
sheffield united
Go to Hertford town the real pride of Hertfordshire
St Albans City. Up the Mighty Saints!😃
Runners up fc
It’s Watford, of course they haven’t won any trophies..... 🎩🎩🧡🧡
The number of people that don’t understand the construct of the English language. Let me help, they are the biggest club with out a trophy, that’s not to suggest they are a big club in the traditional sense.
Fulham ? (Intertoto Cup is not a major trophy )
Bristol City much bigger
That's funny. Bristol City are massive. In parts of Bristol 🤣
Tottenham iam a joke to you
The Ayr United of England 🤣
Hiya Sam, Newcastle haven't won a domestic trophy since 1955 (F.A Cup) that's a pretty long time, saying that the Championship is a difficult league to get out of, the hardest in the world, I don't know how the Watford fans can applaud Graham Taylor, Turnip Head was awful for England, played 37 won 17 drew 13 lost 7, and one of them defeat's to USA, I seem to remember, when you come back up North would you please do Workington Reds? their a ex league club Workington were Expelled in 1977 when Wimbledon came in, this is Choppy in Whitehaven, Cumbria, England
Since WWII different winners of FL Div 1 then PL from 1992/3 are 18, FA Cup 28, League Cup 24 as all dominated by MU MC Liverpool Arsenal Spurs and Chelsea and many buy their trophies by splashing billions on players.
When will Chelsea Spurs Arsenal and Man U next win one of these trophies? Squeezed out by others splashing more cash than them.
FL / PL winners since WWII playing in 3rd or 4th since winning include include Wolves, Blackburn, Portsmouth, Derby, Villa, Leeds, Ipswich, Burnley, Forest and Man City.
If the fixation is on why Watford have not won a major trophy there are others.
Fulham is the biggest without a trophy in my eyes. But clubs like Fulham, Crystal Palace and Watford are all not big clubs let’s be honest
Palace are bigger than Fulham
Crystal Palace are bigger than Watford ,and have not won a major trophy.
Maybe im retarded but i feel like EFL Championship/1&2 feels like proper football. The stupid money is ruining the PL for me
Teams that win promotion via the playoffs win a trophy, so yes - we have won a (non major) trophy, twice. 3 lower league title wins as well
Just has play off goals don't count to season goal tally
Definitely arent a big club
No one said that
Watford were a 4th division team when I was a kid . Not until the early 1908s did they have any success. Not a big club. Just a club punching above their weight like Brighton and Bournemouth.
Hello, we hope you're well.
To what extent are we "punching above our weight"?
Watford have only spent 2 out of the last 50 years BELOW the Championship.
So we're in a familiar place at the moment.
Please explain your point because we've been a bigger club than Brighton & Bournemouth over the last 50 years (which is sort of where people judge how big any club is).
Nobody talks about the 1960s or before that - no disrespect.
Brentford, Brighton, Bournemouth, Watford and Palace all realy
Nice pod cast and you are well informed I do belve the championship playoff trophy’s as major honours
But smaller place than those you mentioned with loads of clubs near
Early 1908s are you okay?
Winning a major trophy does not necessarily make you a big club Clapham Rovers for instance
Watford a big club? 😂 no I’ve heard everything
At no point is anyone calling us a big club. Just one of the biggest without a major trophy. Again, that does not mean we are actually big!
How do you define biggest without a major trophy 🤷♂️Watford being in the top 2 divisions is hugely punching given our historical performance pre Elton and Taylor and obviously the town is small, and an over spill of London so difficult to build a fan base when so many people support London clubs etc.
We are a big club
We aren't the biggest but ill take it
We're coming for you, we're coming for you....Watford FC, we're coming for you.
#KingsOfBedfordshire #UpTheHatters
Is the play offs not considered a major trophy? Watford has won twice 🏆 . Fa cup runners up twice .