NOT What You Want to Hear SOLO at Sea (I Lied about this, I'm Sorry!)
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- I tried something that really didn't go as planned. I was so confident in it too.
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Not an expert, just what I heard about ikejime , and it sounds very logical. Nerve tissue and muscles contain ATP, which is used as a neurotransmitter agent. When ATP is "used" in the muscle it breaks down to several compounds including lactic acid and ammonia. You don't have to be a scientist to see how those two biproducts left in the muscle can affect tissue quality. If you just bump and bleed the fish some residual nerve activity may still be happening while the fish slowly bleeds to death while still breaking down ATP. If you sever the main "conductor" you're essentially stopping the ATP decay in its tracks, thus preventing ammonia and lactic acid from contaminating the flesh. Does this make sense?
Oh, and as always, great content man, really enjoy your channel. Keep on keepin on brother!
This would effect raw long term storage in a freezer as well. I have some thresher steaks in my freezer that have been there a couple years. After 18 months they became pretty inedible because the muscle tissue continues degrading even when frozen (a property of cold blooded proteins?!) and has a strong urine (ammonia) smell. I've been using the steaks as cut bait and in crab nets. The urine scent seems to attract the crabs.
ATP is not a neurotransmitter. It is a molecule that provides energy to cellular processes.
Matts I told you , you have the most educated experienced followers ,🤝🏼 thank you Igor
Check your 9th grade bio bud.
Just want to make a few things clear re. ATP, neurotransmission, and rigor mortis. ATP can act as a neurotransmitter in the central as well as peripheral nervous system. It plays a role in sensory neurotransmission by binding to receptors in various compartments. ATP has a number of receptors which can be targeted pharmacologically with drugs to treat blood clotting; numerous clinical trials are underway in cyctic fibrosis, inflammation, pain, and arthritis. By inserting a wire into the intrathecal space (that contains the spinal cord) you are mechanically activating descending motor neurons in the cord that synapse on muscle fibers in the body of the fish that utilize excitatory neurotransmitters such as ACh and glutamate. Hence the twitching. Back to ATP - after binding to it's receptor during neurotransmission ATP is NOT broken down into lactic acid and/or ammonia - it is converted to ADP then AMP, then adnosine or inosine. Re. rigor mortis, muscles need ATP to function properly and when breathing stops organisms cannot recycle ADP to ATP and muscles go into rigor. During rigor glycogen in the muscles breaks down and leads to accumulation of lactate and a fall in pH (more acidic). This is unrelated to ATP, poking a wire into the spinal cord, or the like. Credentials: PhD in Neuroscience, MS in physiology, endocrinology, neurobiology; can't catch fish for shit!
Dude - I just cleaned, and cooked my first fish today. I fish lakes so it was just a couple pound bass. I may have also cried for a few minutes after I bonked and killed it lol. BUT I DID IT. Your videos got me fishing last year so thank you!
Don't be a p**** what is it politically correct to feel sorrow for everything you eat
gotta be careful with lake fish, stagnant water = bacteria and disease
It's alright man. You just have to respect the animal and dispatch it as humanely as possible. Always make sure you aren't being wasteful.
@@PearlDrummerFTW I know it was just a fish, but it was a big deal for me to catch and take something’s life like that. I ate it, but will most likely never fillet another lake fish again.
@@billiemack64 didn’t taste too good?
One time I spent two hours troubleshooting my engine before I realized the kill switch was off. Too embarrassing to tell the tale anywhere else but under the veil of the CZcams comment section.
I should pin this
@@FishermansLife It would be healing, lol. Here is another; I was night fishing for steelhead, pulling plugs I would troll a section, then zip back up to the top of the hole to do the same section of river again. After a few times of doing this, I got to the top of the hole, looked down, and my entire set up was gone, plug and every inch of line. I had left my gear in the water and when I got on plane stripped everything off. Luckily I kept the rod and reel.
p.s. I wont give the details of when I planed off with the kicker motor down.
One time?? I can't even tell you how many times I've done that haha.
Always bring a map🤗🤟✌️
@@FishermansLife might be revealing Info on your refrigerator but maybe not. Just FYI.
The process you did for Ikejime was great. It doesn't stop the fish from stiffening up after it gets cold. But, it does soften up the tissue right after you cord it, stopping the lactic acid from spreading and delaying rigormortis which helps the shelf life in a fridge for much longer. Producing more umami flavors from the fish.
In all reality man you are so damn talented at filming and fishing simultaneously! Being captain, fishing, rigging, filming(multiple angles) , and teaching us. All while doing something that’s so fun like that. You are top notch my guy👍🏻 glad I found your content a few years back.
“I haven’t eaten anything, might as well eat this heart.” Absolute legend! Love the videos man
I felt like I haven’t watched a fisherman’s life vid in a while so I searched up the channel to see if I missed a video and was blessed with this
haha that was super cool to hear my name in your video! :) love that feeling when you know your bait is spinning perfect, they arent all created equal. Great video, interesting results at the end, the fish was wiggling lots so you would of thought you did it right 🤷♂️ Congrats on the quick solo limit, awesome feeling! 💪💪
looking forward to your next one too since i know you went out the day after!!
I'm not a fisherman but I just love watching this channel and learning all kinds of great information about fishing 🎣 😊👍🏾
Damn, you need to get out there and try! Although, when you open up that can of worms (pun intended), you're in for a lifetime of self torture😊. Worth every bit of it!
@@hornsforever1 I hear ya😂, my ex wife bought me a very nice fishing pole (expensive I might add) and I have yet to even use it 🙄
Go drop a line SUCKA FISH!!!! you’ll be HOOKED!!!!!!! 🎣
@@svtkilr between you and my good buddy ribbing me about fishing I think I'm gonna break out the pole and go, its gonna be embarrassing I already know it 😅
@@relentless6156 hahahahaha man get out there and get that beginner’s luck! I’ve seen it happen many many times especially when I took out girls I used to date that never fished before they would always catch a nice fish lol what area do you live? I might be able to suggest some nice places to fish! Tight Lines 🎣
haven't watched you in a bit. now it's time to binge watch anything I missed
Literally same
Same lol
lucky bastard! enjoy!
Same with me CZcams hasn’t been recommending anything from fisherman’s life
Dislike aimed at YT, not you brother! Missed some algorithm somehow Matt!
We need those catch n cook videos back
Excellent content as always! I believe the main part or rather the structure below the actual spinal cord is the centrum or vertebral body of the vertebrae…it is a support structure that makes up the bulk of each vertebrae. So just above that (where you stick the wire in) is indeed the actual spinal cord which is basically destroyed by the wire, ceasing all nerve function. I think rigor mortis sets in no matter what you do because it depends on the levels of ATP and the calcium ions in the muscles of the fish….as they deplete through time, the muscle become locked in a contracted position via particular biochemical pathways (to extensive to post here lol). However, I believe the ikejime technique delays the onset of rigor mortis, so perhaps the freshness of the meat seems to last longer before actual decomposition begins.
You need a stiffer wire. Not so flexible. Also when you do ikejime, you should cut and expose the spine on the tail side as well. Awesome vids, love this life!! Yeeeee!
Nail on the head!
Doctor here. You're inserting the wire into the spinal canal where the spinal cord runs through. When you pointed and said "the spinal cord is right there" at 8:51 is actually the fish equivalent of the vertebral body. The spinal cord is just north/dorsal to your finger tip (where the wire went through). When you run the wire into the canal where the spinal cord rests, you're basically agitating all the nerve fibers which causes the muscles to contract randomly. Rigor mortis is also a cellular event when all the calcium gets released inside the muscles which causes the muscle fibers to contract. This gives the fish a stiff appearance and feeling. So yeah, these are two separate things. Still really cool to see lol. Big fan of you Matt! Keep up the awesome vids!!
So youre saying he did it wrong?
@@MaYbYl8eR No. I'm just describing what he was doing to the fish and giving a rough idea of rigor mortis
@@pmhuynh88 So what if any effect do you think doing ikejime has? Perhaps he should just let the wire rest inside until he prepares the fish?
@@chir0pter It's a great question and I cannot speak from experience. But because it's a technique that has probably existed for a long time, it probably means ikejime has had a favorable impact of the quality/taste of the fish meat. If I had to make an educated guess... severing the fish head from the spinal cord still leaves the autonomic nervous system intact from the spinal cord. This means signals from the spinal cord can still cause the muscles to contract and use up the remaining energy/ATP in the muscles. When the energy sources are depleted, this can then cause the muscles to breakdown, resulting in lower quality meat. So if you destroy the spinal cord early on, then the muscles won't break down as quickly to give you better tasting fish. Just my thoughts... lol I hope I'm not too far off from the real reasons.
When you start whistling like that, you know you feel accomplished. Awesome video.
This dude just ate the heart, no problem. 😂😂😂😂
Love seeing you just doing ya thing living your life. Great video man I remember when I first saw you doing a catch clean cook at like 100k congrats on all the success and hope you are doing well after your surgery
We need a lingcod catch n cook from shore ft. Butter video again
That is for sure
That was pretty cool to see as you were inserting the wire into the fish you could see the body twitching lower and lower (from the shimmer on the scales) as the wire went deeper and deeper. Very cool and thanks for showing this to us! I can't wait to try out my Fisherman's Life Cable Baiters!! :) -Arie
This comment read as a future serial killer lmao
@@Division4 lol fr
@@Division4 oh snap, you're right! LOL!
Your voice and vibe are so chill. Keep up the good work.
Afaik it doesn't prevent rigor mortis but it slows down the onset compared to normal bonk + bleed. Main benefit is as already posted; less waste chemicals accumulating in the flesh means better taste. Dunno if this is poor youtube etiquette but this dude has a really good demonstration of the process; CC for English: czcams.com/video/NY6ywY7u4RA/video.html. Also as far as I can tell the ideal wire is 16-20ish gauge stainless steel memory wire, it's readily available for jewelry making.
I'm sick. Watching your video made me feel better (:
6th day fighting COVID
you rock matts !!!....true anglers consume fresh-raw heart and 'organs'......fan from the marianas/yay area..
Never heard of this but utube is full of videos on it.of course I know this after watching your video first.thanks for teaching me something today….
Cool video bro. I’m from New Zealand, love my fishing and eat most my fish as sashimi. I also break the spinal cord with the same method. Just wanted to say you can use a bit strong trace to do it as well (80 lb+). Using trace just means I don’t have to add wire in my fishing kit 👍👍
i recall telling you about running a line up the cord back a year or so ago. It immediately stops all the nerves that rot a fish from inside . works better with stiffer cord from the tail. same technique half cut. awsome Bro !
I fucking love this channel. I'm about to buy some merch just in case he has a golden ticket like Willy Wonka and I can come fish and eat with him.
That's a good idea. I should do something like that lol
Rigor mortis is a chemical process in the muscles. There is no way to stop it from happening, it starts when there is no more oxygen supplied to the muscles. If I ever get to the west coast I will look you up. I'd love to go crabbing!
Exactly what I thought
Have you ever gone Snipe hunting?? “ ikki Jimmie “ 😆🤣😂😊…..nice catch 👍🏼
00:50 It's a Yamaha... They even keep working submerged underwater 😃😃
lol can't believe you ate a raw fish heart as a snack in the middle of the ocean.
I will be eating them more regularly
@@FishermansLife Hope to see it, especially since it kinds of respects the fish in a way.
As always, nice video and thanks for keeping it fresh.
I think technically what you're doing is called shinkei jime. Ike jime also involves spiking the brain so that cortisol and lactic acid don't build up in the muscles from stress.
I would spike the brain, bleed it out then shinkei jime.
"haven't eaten anything, might as well eat a heart" savage af
Thank you for turning the clicker off while filming.. wish others would get the memo
I always love your videos, and I really appreciate how real and authentic you keep it.
Ikejime (ee kay jee may) is used to kill the fish as well as improve the quality of the meat. I like to go through the tail, shove the wire up as far as it goes, and go back and forth a bunch of times. At least until the muscle spasms stop. Between the ikejime and bleeding the fish afterwards, the meat will taste much better. You should do another ikejime test, but this time eat sashimi cuts from each fish so you don’t have anything altering the flavor. You will find the fish that had ikejime will taste much better.
As far as rigor mortis goes, it tends to start a few hours after death and goes on for 10-13 hours. The only way to avoid rigor mortis is to subject the body to electrical stimulation for long enough to work (I can’t remember what the compound is called) out of the body.
Jamming that wire down the spine of that fish just makes my body shiver.
Writing from Japan. Ikejime 活け締め（いけじめ）basically means live death. You need to do it immediately after catching. No bonks.
Nice video. Awesome to mention Chris on there. Enjoyed this video.
Ike-Jime (live killing/'closing' roughly translating) is the technique used to kill fish and bleed out the fish. The technique in the video is called Shinkei-Nuki (nerve pulling) which destroys the nerve going down the spine to prevent additional degradation of the meat. I've seen commercial boats use compressed air to blow the nerve out of the fish in one shot for porgy.
Shinkei-nuki will delay the stiffing process but will not stop it. Though delaying it will still result in fresher meat.
I remember someone saying that using a high power hose to scale the fish is bad for the meat. It apparently damages the quality of it somehow?
You should definitely have a backup motor for if you're out at sea man a nice 10/8hp can help you not get into trouble!!
icky jimmy looks fun to do regardless if it doesn't work. Would be a funny to freak people out making it move xD
Always enjoy watching your videos.
Always nice to see you posting
When u ate the heart. I thought they surely give you a tv show by now.
We have done this to yellowfin tuna where I’m at…it stops the nervous system and stops the lactic acid from permiating the flesh…it works but you’re also opening a channel through the fish for bacteria also…thus limiting quality shelf life if kept whole…
Used to do that in the slaughter house on the cattle once shot with captive bolt had a 4ft long wound spring about 5mm in diameter shove it down to break the spinal cord helps as you have shown to get cleaner meat as the involuntary spasms push blood out too.
Rigor will probably happen either way as it’s a biomolecular process, it has to do with depletion of ATP at a cellular level in the muscles - crossbridges between muscles fibers actually require energy to disengage and when the body ‘relaxes’ it is actually because down the road the muscle cells actually start to breakdown directly and the crossbridges denature. The technique is more intended to reduce continued twitching which may cause more buildup of lactic acid and alter the flavor profile. At least in theory.
Just my two cents.
Just want to make a few things clear re. ATP, neurotransmission, and rigor mortis. ATP can act as a neurotransmitter in the central as well as peripheral nervous system. It plays a role in sensory neurotransmission by binding to receptors in various compartments. ATP has a number of receptors which can be targeted pharmacologically with drugs to treat blood clotting; numerous clinical trials are underway in cyctic fibrosis, inflammation, pain, and arthritis. By inserting a wire into the intrathecal space (that contains the spinal cord) you are mechanically activating descending motor neurons in the cord that synapse on muscle fibers in the body of the fish that utilize excitatory neurotransmitters such as ACh and glutamate. Hence the twitching. Back to ATP - after binding to it's receptor during neurotransmission ATP is NOT broken down into lactic acid and/or ammonia - it is converted to ADP then AMP, then adnosine or inosine. Re. rigor mortis, muscles need ATP to function properly and when breathing stops organisms cannot recycle ADP to ATP and muscles go into rigor. During rigor glycogen in the muscles breaks down and leads to accumulation of lactate and a fall in pH (more acidic). This is unrelated to ATP, poking a wire into the spinal cord, or the like. Credentials: PhD in Neuroscience, MS in physiology, endocrinology, neurobiology; can't catch fish for shit!
The fishermen in Japan always do ikejime for prized fish as it lets them age the fish in the refridgerator for up to 2 weeks. Many dont eat fish like seabream raw and always let it age.
Rigor mortis is caused when the ATP consumin proteins in the muscle (Myosin) bind to the actin filaments, locking the muscle down. This happens when the tissue runs out of ATP, which will happen whether or not you pith the spine. Decreasing neural impulses using the spinal pith may delay this a bit by reducing contractions in the muscle, but probably not by a whole lot. When the heart stops beating and tissue is not oxygenated, ATP production starts to shut down.
Ive heard at least with trout you want to keep the head on all the way thru the cooking process.. when you cut thru the spine it releases a chemical into the fish which will effect the taste of the fish...i have kept the head on now for the last 3-4 years and i do see some taste diffrence ..it does taste better although it still tastes like fish it looses im not sure if its the after taste or just takes some of the bite off it but it definatly takes some of the muddy flavor out of the fish if you fish in areas where the mud is an issue and it does make a diffrence
Crip Mac is smiling somewhere knowing you choose 55ft at first 😂
VERY GOOD VIDEO 📹 👍 👌. Interesting content 👍. Love you're videos 📹 ❤️ 😀. Stay Safe 🙏 🙏
16:16 Matt's version: "I ate his heart with some fava beans and a nice Chianti . ph..ph..ph.." 😃😃😃😃
This is a nice fish!...
Boink boink boink
Dunno why but that but just had me cracking up. Matts imagine you have a viewer lile me that has never fished and can not stand the thought of eating fish yet I'm a subscriber. Should tell you just how damn good your vids are
Awesome episode Brotha!! Nice size limit Matts 👊🏼😎🤙🏼! Can you do a episode of you cooking them bad boys??
Hey mate, knock your engine into neutral when you hook up. You no longer have your kill switch on and if you got tangled up or lost your footing while hanging over the edge pulling in a fish you could go over. A mile out and you'd watch your boat motor away..
I don’t know about the icky jimmy but I did see you eat a pumping salmon heart mad props to ya Fisherman’s Life
Rigor Mortis sets in if there is no more ATP left (cellular respiration stopped bc of no oxygen). Therefore it doesnt make a difference if you do the ikejime or not. Its the absence of oxygen -> no more ATP that causes RM, not something related to the nerves. ATP is used to relax muscles so the lack of ATP causes the muscles to cramp (RM).
Would like to see more fishing and cook at the rocks 😅
Lol, you munching on the heart made me laugh.. I swear I thought you’d gag…
Its the cold that does that sometimes. It works best if you make a slurry and submerge the whole fish. Also helps to have a cooler where the fish lays flat.
i noticed this keeping drinks cold in a cooler as well - better an ice bath than just ice to get something cold. water is a much better thermal conductor than air.
them cablebaits are the truth... you never miss with those, every bite is a hook
Yes, on the liver. Ankimo or monk fish liver I order all the time if it is on the menu board. King salmon liver is a bit milder but heck yeah. Sublime taste pairing with sea grapes then a shot of cold Nigiri unfiltered sake.
Amazing I wish I could fish In The sea you lucky lucky man. Being restricted to the lakes is a pain to endure
Make a plan ✨️ and save for a fishing trip to salty waters. You can do it 💪.
Check your laws to make sure it is legal. I fish the great lakes on the Canadian side and I always run a slider on my main line. Set your main line just like you did and then have a slider line about four feet long with a snap swivel at each end, clip your bait to one end and then clip the other to your already set line. It will slide down to about mid point so if your main line is at 60 feet down you also have a line at 30. Never tried using a flasher with this method though.
Not sure about king salmon, but with Atlantic salmon and other fish with small scales, you can cook the fish with scales on. It makes the skin go crispy. It's kinda like crackling on roast pork. Cook the fish about 80% on the skin side the finish it off on the flesh side. For some fish, it makes it taste better, for others you wouldn't notice. But it's surely better than having to scale it. Worth a try anyway.
Down here in Long Beach, CA we have a boat towing service that you can buy insurance for. It costs from about $60 to a few hundred dollars annually depending on the level of coverage you choose. West Marine sells it. I don't know if they have franchises up there though. I often see their boats "Tow Boat USA" when I go out on my yak.
We're in the same area 😅
You should consider having a small kicker 9.9 as a back up especially when you're solo that far out.
I want to give you the best piece of advice you will get today. Put a little kicker 5-10hp outboard on your boat. The day it saves your ass you'll be thanking me. A little outboard like that will never lose its value and can save you a lot of $ in the long run. I've been on the water so many days during my 58 years - it's just not worth going out with only one engine. I've found this to be true regardless of the cost of your boat.
Awesome fishing, Matts! Can't believe you did it solo! You made it look easy. 🙌
lol intentional click bait title 🤣 I say icky jimmy too! was there a texture difference??
part two cooking them??
Around 16:34, my 7 year old son watching this with me said, "If he swallowed that immediately (whole) he would have two hearts beating inside of him." 😂🤣
Just eating the heart fresh out the fish like that. What a savage 😂
How do you tell the difference between a King and a Silver (Chinook vs. Coho)?
Great video. Always learning. Poor Jimmy.
Love the sound of the clicker!
I love the rubber mat in the back, I use the same thing but different color. That trip hazard from the mat on the starboard side tho...
I hate having loose rope on the deck because of trip hazard. That sketches me out just seeing it, add to it alone in the ocean.
Hey there.
Was wondering why you don't use a net float..?
Did ya never loose a net to the sea?
Greetz from the Netherlands
Don’t forget to pick up a board stretcher and a quart of blinker fluid. Might as well get a muffler bearing too. 😂
reading all the comments about ATP and rigor morthis i came with a conclusion that its best to rip the spinalcord out while cutting the tail to bleed the fish after a knife to the head has been done , do i think right ???
I have a ? About the radio ..how do you know which channel to be on?
I'm not grossed out by you eating the heart, just grossed out by eating something off the deck of a fishing boat!
Bro when you set the hook reel at the same time so you can pick up the slack from the down rigger! A fish that spits ain’t an eatin fish!!
Why do you remove the gills when you gut you gut the fish?
This worries me. You should not be out there alone. You know the drill.
Still, I love your videos, you do an excellent job. If my accountant hadn't stood on his desk and screamed at me I would've bought a twin volvo engined Otis hulled schooner in 86. Almost. Now I have a great life on a farm with 4 great grown kids. But no saltwater.
@Ripple Nipples Sounds wonderful. But I've a farm to run. Had 4 kids, two daughter getting married this year. I like to watch this, and dream.
I bought my son that beanie and he loves it!!!
nice video, great job fighting the sharks, the Rays are crazy though ,they run like hell
I also one time spent 1 hour trying to start a 4wheeler with the kill switch in the wrong position.
Very nice salmón congrats could I ask u a question what kind of motion pills do u take when u go out? Could u give me the name so I could ask my doctor.
Spike the brain (Brian dead but alive)
Bleed it out
Ream and scream the spine
I’m trying to find out about some information about Fly fishing. I’m having a real problem with using Rio Fly clips for fly’s I bought at Sportmans Warehouse. The eyelets are so small I can’t get them to work. I’m trying to limit having to tying my line on all the time. At my age it’s hard to see that well.
You should try Brad's killer swim bait. I love it rely on it and it's versatile. You can put scents. Addicted has all sorts of different choices so you can target more specifically species. Anyway good luck
@@shingo_y Yes the cut plug I probably have 40 of them and then maybe 60 others from Kokanee all the way up to the large. I'll beaten up.. a troll solo in rivers. Mostly the yaquina and the siletz. Love your show thank you
When you picked up the heart i went in my head: eat it...... so you did😂and i went: f yea...👏
Hey! I got a curious question, I have never eaten a raw fish heart before... How do they taste like? Would you say its similar to cooked liver or...?
May have been said, but Ike Jime is so that the fish lasts longer without a fishy taste or odor. It still gets that odor and taste, it just takes a couple more days.
You are good fisherman always nice trip fishing i love ur video much🤗congraluations u are the best fisherman matt💯👌👍👍👍👍👍✌🤙🎣🎣❤❤❤❤🥰🥰🥰
If your comfortable going out 20 miles on your boat, come down to SD and get yourself a BFT of a lifetime. Just got one 3 miles off the Coronado's by the pens. Clocked in at 140#. They're out there and biting. Would be a sick vid. Just make sure you bring a 100-130# outfit.
Let's goo! I'll bring my boat. Buddy boat out!
@@FishermansLife Epic invite! Maybe I shoulda given more detail. I went on a overnight out of Pt Loma and we fished the tuna pens 3 miles offshore of the Coronados yesterday. Well within a full day range roughly 20 miles out the harbor. Bite was insane as well as the quality of fish being landed. Out of 25 guys we landed 14 and none were under 120#. I was one if the lucky ones. Never seen anything like it, they were biting 130# line! Type of fish you had to go on ultra long range trips to get. Anyways, though it would be cool to see you do it on your boat especially if you've already done it for yellowtail. I dont have a boat or anything to offer in terms of knowledge of locating these fish but if you need a fishing buddy hit me up! Love the vids man!!
Take me fishing with you. I really need it.