love this dudes videos lol. Its like, come hang out with unc for 10 minutes while he explains how subwoofers work. Its like being in that class you actually liked in school haha
That’s the first thing I said to myself when he did that. You have to read that nice colorful but they send you before you do anything with that speaker
I can’t wait for part 4… Be expecting a phone call from JL by the end oft the summer . Trust me their going to want to show appreciation for the way you are teaching everyone about the technology on their flagship driver. Im certain 80% of consumers that own the w7 line are learning from watching this. Keep it up Boss
Super nice great job explaining it. Hard to believe how far ahead they were in 2002. Can’t believe in 22years they haven’t beat these W7’s. 22 years is for ever and nothing new. Which as much these cost if they release something better it would be $2500 so wouldn’t do me no good can’t afford these
I've owned a 10w7. Bought it new in like 2013. I was always impressed by it. But I had no idea of the lineage of the sub and history. Currently working on a new setup and another w7 is in store. I'm thinking a 12 this time.
You know what over hung vs under hung coil is? So if you do have 25 xmax on an over hung coil with 19 of space between the spider and top plate you will still get 25 because the coil goes farther out and less in… The coil has to be 2.5 of wind height for this to happen. Also a large surround has to be able to take that much movement out. If not enough surround you will see dimples from coil rock.
I have a real good question. I wonder what they are doing at the triple joint? Bc I've never seen jl have a issue at the Triple.. I've seen them abused and burnt coil etc. But the triple is often a weak spot for others.
Theres a guy in youtube that i cant remember his name with two of these in a car with a box tuned low doing hairtricks like he got some 15s....I hope u put them in the megacab with the signature mbe box to test them out!
I know they were bought out…. But these intellectual properties only make me think what JL has been working on in the past 20+ years and they have just been waiting until the right time to unleash the next “ahead of the curve” wave.
Cons of these subs. Low power handling/ not loud. Goofy impedance. Inferior/weak foam surround. Doing a recone is a bitch and proprietary parts are difficult to obtain so you’re probably going to ship to JL (high shipping cost and lead time). While these sub were cool and had a some of the best materials 20 years ago there are far better options in 2024
If you think the power handling and impedance are a con, you should probably look into an SPL oriented sub and not these sound quality units. I do agree about the surrounds and reconing problems, though. Still, they should last a nice long time before any of that is needed.
@@JasonWW2000 correct. My daily has 20kw and depending on mic location does high 150’s - low 160’s around 30hz… spl subs would be pointless unless I wanted to listen to tones in burps. I listen to music when I drive
@@cboyamgI think you misunderstood me. I said SPL oriented sub, not SPL only sub. I'm not referring to a competition or one note, burp type sub. I'm referring to the type of subs that MB has crowned as kings. The 2508, G7, etc... The ones that have a higher power handling and higher output. MB calls them SQL.
@@wilfredozabala5616I guess describing something as "better" is a matter of opinion as well as how much better it's believed to be. Cheaper isn't always better. I think you should get the most expensive you can afford and run it properly.
Understood, but I didn’t think the SS2000 was cheaping out :) . Do you like sound digital 3000.1 evox2? It says 3000 damping factor . Same price as M2500
love this dudes videos lol. Its like, come hang out with unc for 10 minutes while he explains how subwoofers work. Its like being in that class you actually liked in school haha
I appreciate that!
I wish they had classes like this in school. I wouldn’t miss a day 😂
JL says specifically not to pull the surround up could damage surround
That’s the first thing I said to myself when he did that. You have to read that nice colorful but they send you before you do anything with that speaker
Personally I have had several. I think I know how to handle the sub. But you shouldn’t do what I do. I could buy another no problem.
I can’t wait for part 4…
Be expecting a phone call from JL by the end oft the summer . Trust me their going to want to show appreciation for the way you are teaching everyone about the technology on their flagship driver. Im certain 80% of consumers that own the w7 line are learning from watching this. Keep it up Boss
Watched your videos and got me a bass processor and i tell you man!!!!!! Isley bros are bumping!!!Thanks for the knowledge Big Bro.
That is awesome!
Super nice great job explaining it. Hard to believe how far ahead they were in 2002. Can’t believe in 22years they haven’t beat these W7’s. 22 years is for ever and nothing new. Which as much these cost if they release something better it would be $2500 so wouldn’t do me no good can’t afford these
I absolutely cannot wait to see these in action in one of your boxes 📦
Cone area is KING!!!
I understand that explanation better each time I hear it.
Makes sense to keep the cone size consistent throughout the stroke.
Unc put the pinkies out when he handling that suit n tie!
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😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Professor MB is in the house!
Take a shot everytime you hear "19mm of xmax in 2002"
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I've owned a 10w7. Bought it new in like 2013. I was always impressed by it. But I had no idea of the lineage of the sub and history. Currently working on a new setup and another w7 is in store. I'm thinking a 12 this time.
Very good can you talk about the 13w7 next
Love the insight…. Keep teaching brother
I’m ready to hear the demo in one of ur boxes now. ✊🏾✊🏾
You know what over hung vs under hung coil is? So if you do have 25 xmax on an over hung coil with 19 of space between the spider and top plate you will still get 25 because the coil goes farther out and less in… The coil has to be 2.5 of wind height for this to happen. Also a large surround has to be able to take that much movement out. If not enough surround you will see dimples from coil rock.
I wouldn't even take the wood off, I would seal it and slap it in front of the box, suite and tie huh MB?😂
I just got schooled! And I liked it!
I have a real good question. I wonder what they are doing at the triple joint? Bc I've never seen jl have a issue at the Triple.. I've seen them abused and burnt coil etc. But the triple is often a weak spot for others.
Jlaudio4Life 👏🏽 👏🏽 👏🏽
SQ life 🙏
Sir MBE .. yes lawd
If Space is not an issue w6 10 or w7 8?
Theres a guy in youtube that i cant remember his name with two of these in a car with a box tuned low doing hairtricks like he got some 15s....I hope u put them in the megacab with the signature mbe box to test them out!
That was a lie. Guy is a charlatan
I know they were bought out…. But these intellectual properties only make me think what JL has been working on in the past 20+ years and they have just been waiting until the right time to unleash the next “ahead of the curve” wave.
Exactly
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So if this had the best SQ, why do you prefer the DD?
Because I want SQL ..emphasis on loud
Cons of these subs. Low power handling/ not loud. Goofy impedance. Inferior/weak foam surround. Doing a recone is a bitch and proprietary parts are difficult to obtain so you’re probably going to ship to JL (high shipping cost and lead time). While these sub were cool and had a some of the best materials 20 years ago there are far better options in 2024
If you think the power handling and impedance are a con, you should probably look into an SPL oriented sub and not these sound quality units.
I do agree about the surrounds and reconing problems, though. Still, they should last a nice long time before any of that is needed.
@@JasonWW2000 correct. My daily has 20kw and depending on mic location does high 150’s - low 160’s around 30hz… spl subs would be pointless unless I wanted to listen to tones in burps. I listen to music when I drive
@@cboyamgI think you misunderstood me. I said SPL oriented sub, not SPL only sub. I'm not referring to a competition or one note, burp type sub. I'm referring to the type of subs that MB has crowned as kings. The 2508, G7, etc... The ones that have a higher power handling and higher output. MB calls them SQL.
Better and cheaper options these days. I think the b2s are better in value/sq/output. Nor pesky foam issues as youve stated
@@wilfredozabala5616I guess describing something as "better" is a matter of opinion as well as how much better it's believed to be. Cheaper isn't always better. I think you should get the most expensive you can afford and run it properly.
Please don’t fold the surround like that. JL tells you to never to do that. Pull the surrounding inwards to get to the mounting screws.
@M.B.Enclosures What are you thoughts on the DD SS2000 compared to the M2000/M2500. Is it worth it or save to get M series?
What subs are you running?
There is a difference..I don’t t cheap out when it come to my sound
Understood, but I didn’t think the SS2000 was cheaping out :) . Do you like sound digital 3000.1 evox2? It says 3000 damping factor . Same price as M2500
Wait till they drop a w8 on us
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I know you're talking about the 8. But let's go back a couple of years hit CZcams. H CCA shoot out.
any of you guys don't like that video.🎉
FACTS NOT FICTION !!!
This is an excellent break down, keep up the good content💯👍
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I’ve been waiting on this