@A Google user Wait, so this shocks you? You abused your script and you ran out of your meds early and your freaking out because you can't get your script filled?
@A Google user go detox, they will taper you off most likely depending where you live or where your going . Benzo withdraw isn't fun. Can't take them daily if you gonna abuse them, because shit like this happens. Wish you well
I was heavily addicted to xanax from 2014-2018 and alcoholic from 2018-2021. Thank you God for changing my life! 5 years sober from xanax 2 years sober from alcohol 🙏
@@TH-mb8io being content is different from being happy all the time. being content is just having an understanding of your living situations and life to know enough that things will be better if they get worse, not all of us have that luxury.
100% agree. i think if we knew our addiction and withdrawl was just as serious as coke,opiats, yatta yatta we wouldent have been addicted for so long. stay away from the devils drug
@Cantwait4summer the way to do it is with alot of cbd and\or thc edibles. Another form of benzo with a small dosage to taper off. With an anti seizure medication. And pure prayer. The first 3 days are the hardest. Get through that you'll start feeling "eh i can beat this". Im the biggest xanax addict. Plz trust me. I was on 6mgs a day. Yes 60mgs. 30 bars. Not no more in Jesus name. Well like down to 4-5 but graudually going down 💯💨🤙🙌🙌🙌
Cantwait4summer I didn’t get addicted I just bought about 50 bars as a one-off and kept eating them till I came out of a blackout being told and shown videos of myself being a zombie. My weakness is in binging not addiction
I was out on adhd meds as a kid, and in order to counter the bad side effects, my parents and doctor put me on a bunch of SSRIs, primarily Zoloft. I don't take the ADHD meds anymore (they caused so much harm) but I can't get off Zoloft. If I go one 24 hours without it I'll have migraines and the worst nausea imaginable. If your kid is not performing well in school or hasn't been in a good mood, please consider making changes in their life and education rather than mess with the chemical composition of their brains, especially when they are still developing. The combination of these dangerous meds mixed with traumatic events have led me down an extremely dark path, and I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy
I agree soo much man. 90's and 2000's doctors were handing that shit out like candy. It's way better to make other changes before messing with their developing brain chemistry. I hope life is good now man!
I got Xanax prescribed by a doctor for anxiety. I had never even heard of Xanax. Was fully hooked after the first bar. I did them for about 9 months. Most of that time was a complete blackout. Wrecked a car, lost a job, went to jail and even pissed the bed a time or two. So I decided to quit cold turkey. I went from have hundreds of milligrams in my system to zero. Was the worst 2 weeks of my life. Have never been so sick and literally thought I was gonna die. The irony is, I took them for anxiety and the addiction and all the bs that comes with it caused way more anxiety. I really can’t believe that doctors put people on that drug everyday.
I went to prison 2016 and I was abusing tf outta Xanax 10-15 a day my tolerance was so high I would wake up and eat 5 to start off. Just to feel "normal". Boy those withdrawals where hell. I couldn't eat for 2 weeks. I lost about 15-20 lbs had violent diarrhea too, cold sweats . (Almost had a seizure too)All in jail 😂
@@deeznutzz316 half a bar? Really that’s it? I took a whole one yesterday and I just felt barely relaxed not sluggish or anything. Does a persons size play a part in tolerance?
@@ianeugenechapman7975 correct, however normal doses of benzodiazepines in conjunction with other drugs or alcohol can cause respitory failure fairly quick. Dont use benzos, don't you wanna remember the fun you've had
My doctor prescribed me 2mg Xanax a day. She said it would just be for 2-3 weeks until the anti-anxiety medication kicked in. She did not tell me the next 6 months of my life would be hell trying to quit. The panic attacks I got trying to quit were 10X worse than any panic attack that I had before.
Xanax is usually prescribed for it's almost instant anti-anxiety properties. It doesn't take a few weeks to start working. One pill is all it takes. They can even be taken during a panic attack and are commonly prescribed for that because they work so well. There are plenty of anti anxiety medications that do take a few weeks to work. Most are non Benzos though.
Same. The cure was worse than the ailment imo. Hardest withdrawals I ever had out of all the withdrawals was Xanax. Coming off each time I was usually in jail lol go figure. Glad I’m 15 years off from playing with psyche meds.
Tolerance got up to 8 a day back in junior year, in a span of 6 months and I didn’t care if they were real or not, shit was bad. Fucked my family dynamic up, had about 6+ seizures trying to quit and had my mom trying to wake me up from 2+ of them. Had no concept of cold turkey. Couldn’t eat n was throwing up bile for a wk. I was 5’11” and dropped to 140 after quitting. What they said about anxiety and depression is 100% true. The negative thoughts don’t stop and they make u change as a person. Been clean since quarantine started and haven’t looked back. Hope this motivates someone to stop!
Yeah the seizures are the worst total blackout until u wake up and don't know what the is goin on,I didn't have any for a few days and end up buying a pack I took 2 1mg xanax and the minute they kicked in I literally fell to the ground walkin through the city ,woke up against a wall with 2 grocery store staff standing in front of me ,i just got up and walked off didn't know what I was doing ,xanax is crazy won't be touching them again
The issue with severe depression and anxiety is that when people tell you to do exercise you don’t have the confidence or motivation to do so and the longer it goes on the worse it gets and the harder it is to do that, feels like you’re stuck in a deep hole and it just keeps getting deeper
idk you but i love you. it’s hard to not beat yourself up about that stuff but don’t let em have access to your emotions like that. People say that stuff to try to get a reaction out of you.. i’ve also been in that severe depressive state as well I was addicted to adderall from 15-18 and i’m 21 now and still recovering.. It feels like a hopeless cycle of guilt and shame but don’t give up! say your affirmations/prayers/manifestations and keep pushing💯Trust me it’s tough thinking about the big picture/end goal when you can barely get out of bed or brush your teeth but when you hit rock bottom the only way is up🙏You don’t gotta become some body builder, just focus on making ONE small tiny change at a time. Whether that’s go to bed earlier or eat X food instead of Y. Reach out if you ever need a friend you got me!
@@sarahko1014 I’ve never read such an accurate description of what I go through daily. Additionally, I also feel like beating myself up for not being in a position to be motivated/confident and as a result, not being able to exercise or do simple things like that. Thank you kindly for your words and I wish you all the best with your journey as well. - a Canadian
The thing is thought, that you can exercise even in your home, no need to go anywhere, but I get it can be difficult if you just can't find the motivation to even start it. If you don't exercise at all, this will surely on it's on cause a depression.
I take psych meds, and I wish I didn’t, and I do all the other stuff: ie lots of exercise, healthy food, meaningful social life, etc. It’s best to not take anything if you can, but it’s obnoxious to hear people who don’t need psych meds to tell you about them. Obviously they’re overprescribed, pharmaceutical companies have a profit incentive, and changing your habits is the best thing, but maybe Joe Rogan and Dr Wily Beardo here don’t know exactly what’s going on with me or other people
Multiple studies have been done where it's basically do "x" amount of exercise for this long and the amount of people who report positive effects are like 60%
I was on Xanax for almost 15 years. I got off of it in 2020 best thing I've done in my life. At some point you have to realize it's easier to deal with anxiety than addiction
After 10 years of living on Benzos and alcohol i finally ended up in a psychiatric ward before going into rehab. I was so paranoid, anxious, neurotic and in so much pain that every day i thought i was going to die. It was like having a panic attack 24/7. It took at least 10 months before I started feeling somewhat "normal" in my own skin. Xanax and other benzos are no joke.
@@26michaeluk bit of an exaggeration I suppose, at the start I was taking 1-2 then tolerance built up fast. Before you know it your missing days and weeks of your life. Scary fuckin stuff. I dunno how doctors can prescribe that poison to someone and sleep at night. Thanks for the kind wishes appreciate it man!
Been sober from cocaine and Xanax for 3 years now , sadly though my friend did not make it , he passed about 3 years back from Xanax pressed with fentanyl . If you struggle you can get better , it’s hard but it’s possible , you got this ❤️
I feel very fortunate to have escaped this horrible drug, I had it prescribed to me in high school and I took it for years before it was taken away, and it was tough no doubt but I didn’t even realize I had been addicted to it.
I’m assuming you all are just joking around, but if not, Joe wouldn’t have anything to talk about, and him referring to things is what makes him so interesting to listen to. It does get redundant because while we watch often, most of his guests don’t.
Mark D dude it’s not like that at all...10x the flu? Have you ever had the flu? Benzo withdrawal is worse than the flu and certainly much worse than opiate withdrawal.
Bullshit. I sat in jail for 30 days due to a bar fight coming off Xanax 2mg and booze been taking it everyday for 2 to 3 years at 30 years old. 7 days in i was feeling normal again. Unless you are a weak minded fuck you are not dying.
@@michaelcapo5512 I took 10mg of zanax a day for 20 years at 30 years old and got off of it in 24 hours, no problem. yall are just weak little people and I'm alpha AF!
I have worked out hardcore my whole life. However, I actually discovered at some point that a lot of my anxiety was actually because of too much exercise. It increased my cortisol levels too high, too often. Generally, exercise is obviously good for you, but I don't think that hardcore exercise or even a little exercise will cure everyone's problems.
Illtempo 1980 ...got that right. klonopin withdraw is worse than oxycontin. i took both for 15yrs. got off the oyxes in 6mo. it took over a yr.of "all my bones are trying to climb out of my body" to get off the klonopin .
@@fourdeadinohio8303 i honestly dont think ones worse i think its based on the person and the ammount because oxycontin was way harder then xanex to quit for me.. like 10 times harder physically and mentally
@@user-vz2sy7tx3w ..i can relate. i had 3 back surgeries in the 90s and was taking 8 vicodins a day when oxycontin came out. i stared out with 2 5mg. by 2015 i was taking 4 90mg. and 2 percs a day plus 3 klonopins. i look back and can't even think how i functioned. just glad i'm not going thru withdraw any more.
I had a few years where panic attacks were killing me. They were so bad I lost control of motor functions. Tried Xanax twice and chose the panic attacks - that is one nightmare of a drug. Ultimately, going to the gym every morning and then swimming at night fixed me right up.
There is no doubt that benzodiazepines are bad…but I work out daily as well.. I still have major sensory panic attacks with extreme dizziness..actually they are getting worse..my BP is super low..so that’s being looked into.. Exercise is amazing..no question But it didn’t cure all for me..at least for anxiety Really there’s kinda nothing that works for some people…
I'm suffering greatly day 6 Xanax withdrawal. I feel insane, detached broke reality. Such weird insane stuff going on, I feel like I'm losing my mind. I thought I might be getting better but it's gotten worse the last couple days. Lots of panic attacks too. Praying this nightmare will end soon.
@@robertalust5466 benzos are the reason why the blood pressure is low. I experience that. I really wanna get off Xanax. Went from 3mg a day to 1,5mg 1,75 yesterday. I wish I could just wake up and my panic disorder disappears.
@@Topofthetopapex I hear you.. I wish mine would disappear too… It’s a tough existence to struggle with panic disorder..and all the tools learned in therapy can go right out the window in the middle of a severe attack…it’s why benzodiazepines really work as that rescue…but they aren’t good long term at all.. Good for you for tapering..that must be difficult My low BP is from really severe anemia.. Blood transfusions and iron transfusions can help with that..
I'm so glad to hear a dialogue about this. It's easy to fall into the trap of taking all the professional advice and medication you can get when you have fallen down in life. People need to read more novels, use that imagination to create your own infinite universe. On the day you die, possess a universe within yourself. Harness wild thought and ride. Don't be a passenger in life.
I agree with you. I don’t allow my mind to create like I used to and it’s so much harder to get through things. Wish I knew how to get past that. Any tips?
He’s spot on with how drug companies are trying to convince everyone that regular human emotions and times of sadness and anxiety are somehow not normal and need to be treasured with a drug. People, everyone gets sad, everybody gets nervous or anxious. It passes, and there are ways to fix it that don’t involve highly addictive drugs
Me to friend. Was clean for four years until two Weeks ago. Now I'm 2 Days clean and feel like Hell. Guess my brain had forgotten the withdrawel from these little suckers. It's torture.
I was prescribed Lyrica for my neuopathy (my hands often went numb) after chemotherapy. Nobody told me that it was also prescribed for anxiety, and so when it didn't work to treat the neuropathy, and I quit it cold-turkey, I had INSANE mood swings.
I've been injured a few times...had a lot of trauma from my youth and the good ole Dr's just prescribed Xanax, Valium, shoulder injury that led to painkiller prescriptions... screwed up my life for a bit. Proudly sober from pills for 6 Years now
I remember quitting Xanax my first week at college in 2013. I had taken adderal and Xanax every single day in high school as my doctor prescribed. I still remember withdrawing in my dorm room, forcing myself to go to the library to study, and literally hearing sounds and voices in my head in the quiet library. Took about 3 weeks to feel “normal” after 4 years of every day use. I would go on to substitute alcohol for the Xanax for the next 3 years until I quit drinking cold turkey too. That was much harder, took 5 months clean before I felt better and not in a mind fog. Sober life is boring but life gets boring as you get older anyway.
First off it depends on how much MG Xanax u were taking. I had a seizure taking 4-5 Xanax a day and decided to go cold turkey. The worse mistake ever. Xanax is a med where u NEED TO WEEN or taper off of. Even an ER doctor told me that. If you are just taking 1 mg it shouldn’t. 4-5 bars a day and cold turkey u will go into a seizure and the only way to counter that is take a bar and u will snap out of it.
Benzo withdrawal is absolutely awful. You take the drug in the first place to mitigate anxiety. Withdrawal for me was anxiety so terrible that my skin was crawling.
YEa. It just defers the anxiety so when you stop it all hits you at once. I just remember for 3 weeks my vision was blurry and my head was at war. Fireworks going off.
Was prescribed Valium for PTSD & Anxiety, Vicodin for pain and Anti-Depressant for depression back in 1991 by the Veterans Administration. I can tell you the benzo was by far the hardest both physically and mentally to stop taking. I went through almost 1.5 years of mental issues before my brain finally balanced back out. Today all I take is a multi vitamin and I can not tell you how grateful I am for my life. ✌🏽🇺🇸🙏
His example on nasal spray/decongestant is spot on. My dad has been consistently using nasal spray my whole life, and he wakes up multiple times a night to "hit" the nasal spray.
I was already on 180 mg methadone when a dr prescribed four klonopins and four seroquels daily- for six and a half years I didn't miss a day and then he died and I couldn't get any more. It took my will to live. I lost almost 60 lbs in two months. You are right- it's much worse than opiates. Your brain is out of control for two months and I couldn't talk. I couldn't drive and lost the methadone two months later. I'm probably lucky to be alive! I was 66 years old when this happened.
I can get anything I want already. The last thing I'm going to do is start taking pins again. It's been several years and my mind is still messed up. I quit taking methadone after taking it for forty years about six months ago.
But Joe didn't start smoking weed all the time because a qualified medical professional told them it would fix his depression and didn't mention how addictive it can be did he? Also when was the last time you took a month long break from the antidepressants you're obviously taking?
Dr.4G Yeah I know, right. "I had no alcohol or dope or other drugs for a month. .... Wasn't the effect of the exercise on my brain amazing!" Uh yeh right Joe, it was the exercise. Coz y'know you don't exercise in the other months, the exercise will be it. Uh huh.
@@tomstokoe5660 You wouldn't tell a heart patient to stop taking their heart medication for a month. You wouldn't tell a diabetic to stop taking their insulin for a month. Mental illness is no different.
I got 7 months clean off the xannys feel good.... I miss them tho floating around in the plaid pantry for 20 mins getting snacks then I time travel back to my place and wake up in my computer chair covered in twinky rappers
@@devantepoe2684 It is a devilishly good feeling, stupid though it may sound to non-users. With all the time I wasted nodding out in my teens and twenties, I could've had a PhD! I kicked a nasty heroin habit _in a flash_ compared to the trouble I've had with benzos, especially Xanax. Now the cartels are making their own 'bars' and putting fentanyl in them -- plus y'know Flacco's dirty hands are touching 'em -- so if there ever was a reason to stay away, that's two.
@@bveracka I'm kicking a 23 year long Xanax habit right now. Been 4 1/2 months clean after tapering off for a while with medical assistance. I took them as prescribed cause of severe anxiety and never did them to get high really. An average of 0.5-0.75mg 4-5 times a week. Now I'm struggling with terrible head tremors and muscle spasms. Like my central nervous system is in a constant fight or flight mode. Inner tremors, muscle tension, body "zaps", uneven heart rate, heat waves, constant anxiety. The list of withdrawal symptoms is long. Some say the symptoms could last for years, ref Ashton Report.
Thank you for your video May I ask you how many milligrams were in each bar? 1 or 2 milligrams? How long was you on Xanax? I appreciate your video I subscribed
When i go for 20-30km runs Its incredible how well i feel afterwords. Mental chatter disappear, i feel no anxiety , no guilt eating unhealthy foods or no rush to do anything. It isn’t fun to run long distances, but have’nt found anything that comes close to these effects besides for long runs. I hav’nt taken any antidepressants in my life. Which im grateful for.
I am a year clean and sober off of opiates oxycodone 10 mg. I was taking them as prescribed four times a day 6 to 8 hours for back pain after being injured in a car accident, for three years and still became addicted. I decided one day just to stop randomly. I don’t know if it was my inner voice or what?. The withdrawals was the most excruciating experience I’ve ever experienced in my time on this earth. You quite literally lose your mind. No, I’m serious. I couldn’t function in the most simplest of ways. The first three weeks of withdraw I had violent convulsions, somewhat like seizures. I became catatonic to where I couldn’t speak. I had horrible, anxiety, intrusive, thoughts, vomiting, diarrhea, I didn’t eat for about three weeks and became very very skinny. I lost about 30 pounds, even as the days pass while you heal it’s a very slow excruciatingly bewildering experience. It took me seven months to feel somewhat “normal”. I am now a year out. I feel fantastic. However, I do have side effects from years of abuse. I get brain fog, irritable, horrible anxiety, and panic attacks, and in some cases, depression, and detachment issues, but you do have good week’s sometime even a month or two is good. Id go through this any day than have to go through the horrible experience of addiction, as well as the withdrawal. My prayers are for anybody dealing with any substance abuse.🙏🏾
Years ago I broke my leg, they prescribed oxys for the pain and told me to take one every six hours. Well, I only took them at night to get the pain down a bit so I could get some sleep but I would always wonder why I felt like shit the next day. This was while ago when oxy was a new drug, never realized it was a mini withdraw.... I could not wait to stop taking them, thats how bad I felt the next day.... Yeah, not the drug for me....
Seriously try doing strict keto for a month. It got rid of my brain fog and anxiety after being addicted to meds and getting clean. It will help. A month will show you, you dont ever want to go back to carb life.
opioid withdrawal does not cause convulsions or seizures... benzodiazepine withdrawals do tho. were u also withdrawing off xanax or another benzo? thats the only way i can see you having convulsions.
From 24 yrs old to 29. 2 years straight of minimum 1mg xanax a day and 5 years of minimum 40mg of hydrocodone a day. Was a living hell to kick. DONT EVEN START!!!
I love benzos recreationally, but there’s absolutely no way I’d consider taking them regularly. My experience with alcoholism warned me sternly of how horrific the withdrawals from GABAergic substances are more than enough. That sense of peace and quiet combined with sedation is heavenly though
dude some people really do need it and it really sucks these addicts just looking for another buzz make it harder for us with serious anxiety to be taken as serious as our disability.
I’ve been clinically depressed most of my life and I have also been sober for eight months from alcohol and this clip inspired me to write a book about it
I had taken Xanax for 10 years! I’m two years sober now. I had to gradually get off them with small dose or tiny pieces also I found Rhodiola and Ashwagena worked wonders for my anxiety, not having a panic attack, and overall withdrawal. First year was uplifting momentum for being strong enough to know to get out now. And year 2 here I am researching chemical reaction and effects it has on the mind and body. I think that’s awesome about GABA because I started taking supplements for my chemical imbalance and Gaba I take daily. I miss the high of being “Happy” all the time. I was addicted to instant gratification. I had to re learn my emotions again because I had forgotten what it was like to feel anything other than happy. Someday I want to write a book. The toll it has on your mind and body is something I never saw or heard about to anyone who has got off Xanax. I just want to say you are stronger than you know! 🏆And I hope you are now living life to the fullest!❤️✊
I've been on Xanax for about 20 years. I've tried tapering for months to like .5 most but I usually take 3mg a day and that's what I'm on and been on for years now. How do I get off this crap. It's terrible withdrawals, horriblle
@@NonBathingApe6969 i would buy me Gold scale (precision scale) and crush those pills and take every week 1% of the pills in less than of 2 years you are drug. Your body will change but your mind has also to change you have to hate those Xanaxs.
It's easy to say but it's worse than anything I've ever been on. And believe me I've done my share of substances in my life. Hands down the worst withdrawal, it's like opioid withdrawal but hallucinating, seizures, 4 times I've tried and failed. Damn near thought I was gonna die the last time. I have bad anxiety and panic attacks but I'm so sick of being dependent on it. The only way I could see it might happen would be a slow snail taper for a year smh
Harder to get off of than opiates? You’re goddamn right it is. I have kicked heroin and methadone at the same time, yet that was an absolute cake walk compared to benzodiazepines. It took me over 5 years to finally get off of Xanax…..it was the most terrifying time of my life, and I’m still not out of the woods yet
@@lucarossi9453 I did to....a year later I started benzos....for 3 years I battled to get off them...full blown withdrawal symptoms compared to H and methadone...lol....I nearly almost jumped off my balcony on the 4th floor...no joke..been clean 16 years...but there are times when I still think about them..extremely dangerous drug...
@@thanosnwo5034 damn man that’s crazy.. happy for you that ur clean.. opiate withdrawals are definitely absolutely no easy thing to kick so I couldn’t imagine how hard benzos are
When you have a severe depression, exercise is completely out of reach, you just don’t have enough energy to get out of bed, forget exercising. First step is always and will always be looking inwards: sit with your depression, listen to it, listen to what are you responding to with a depressed state, find the source which is ALWAYS a trauma, and then find a good enough trauma therapist and take a long, hard road of regulating yourself and healing. This way you will improve your quality of life not for a few weeks but long-term, and once you start feeling better, regaining your energy level, this is when you start exercising.
In my humble opinion, the worst kind of addiction is that of alcohol. Not only does it deprive you of any human dignity, but it also ruins your entire body.
Real panic attacks are just as intense as a withdrawal. If you live with insane ptsd style anxiety all your life... Withdrawals are laughable. Pint in 15 seconds when I was 12.. 58 cans in one day , 15 top shelf long Islands. Almost a whole bag of wine, 12 pack, half gallon of whiskey and vodka.. That Almost killed me. Bartenders thought I was a freak of nature. I started shaking when I smelled whiskey.. stopped immediately no problem. Just blacked out for a week from Xanax last refill. Will easily forget about them again. Meth and Opioids were laughable. Cigarettes I need intense work outs and keep busy. But I'll suck ya off for a can of soda.. I need my high fructose and caffeine. everyone is different
It’s been a year since I had a seizure from Xanax withdrawal, it’s taken my money, my cars that I’ve crashed , 3 of em … and now I’m taking the bus to work 😢
Depression is debilitating and is a disease...try and tell a person that can't eat,shower get out of bed or even feel love to just go exercise.Dont act like an expert until you are in that situation
I agree completely! It’s bothersome that people who have never experienced major depression tend to liken it to a more intense version of sadness. It is nothing slightly related to sadness. Unexplainable really.
@Deborah Hesselblad. Well said. Easy to talk about how bad it is. But when you feel better from taking medicine that helps you. It’s a lifeline to many.
Yes you’re right. For some people like me however we had symptoms of anxiety/depression in response to trauma. I was prescribed a cocktail of meds for my PTSD and it helped rid me of the pain of it in the short term. 8 years after the initial prescription I felt it was time to come off. I think the point of what the doctor is saying is that these medications are over prescribed which I think they are.
From 2010 to 2013 I was a Xanax addict following the suicide of my mate. At the height of my addiction I ate 18mg a day. An average day was 5 of the 2mg bricks. The withdrawals were horrendous, took me six months to taper off, and twelve months to be totally off the benzos. There is so much of my life from that period that I just don't recall.
Getting off benzos was an incredible experience to say the least. My ears were ringing for over six months. I couldn’t sleep for almost two months. Then I found a new doctor and I took one zyprexa. Poof! My nightmare ended. I slept for 14 hours and my life returned to normal. Now I take a zyprexa maybe once every two weeks or so to break my anxiety cycle. I would be bat-shit crazy by now if it wasn’t for antipsychotics. Call it what you will….
Interesting. I do think antipsychotics could be helpful, I noticed particularly with stopping Xanax that I would get so anxious that it would get to the point of paranoia, so it makes sense. I’ll have to think about that. I’m almost done with a taper but terrified of stopping this last little bit because of what I’ve been through before. Had ringing in my ears too, burning pain between my eyes that nothing would soothe, afraid to sleep and afraid to wake up. There was no sense of well-being in my life or that anything could ever be ok again. Everything terrified me.
Stay in there bud, I was on xanax and heroin for over 8 years and have been clean for a while now, I know the hell all too well, stay in there my friend! Go to a medical detox facility if you don't think your body can handle it or you've been taking very high MG doses daily like i was (10-20mg) I had to go to a facility where they could give me clonodine so i wouldn't have a seizure and die. Stay safe and I hope you a speedy and safe recovery man.
I absolutely love my Valium for when my anxiety gets TOO much to bear… But you CAN’T feel that way ALL THE TIME… I take it when it’s way too much and I consider it a little treat. I’ve taken 7 Valium’s since October and it’s March now. I’m way too scared to take it consistently because I don’t want it to STOP working. It’s a security blanket for me and my heart goes out to those who had to face battles with this drug 😢
Xanax probably saved my life. I had severe panic attacks when I started attending college in my early 20s. Got suicidal it was so bad, for me benefits of taking it far outweighed the risks.
James Smith it absolutely will. First I recommend working out daily to burn off your stress as it’s most likely the cause of your attacks. Fix the triggers around your attacks as much as you can and try to get a dr to prescribe you a low dose of Xanax or Ativan.
Heck yeah, me too and I get to keep all my cognitive abilities, zan has a bad rep. And never addictive for me, alot of times I don't even remember to take during non anxiety times
So is there any way to not get addicted if taken for a short period of time. Looking to get some medical intervention for my anxiety and I fear getting prescribed any sort of pills due to the fear of getting hooked.
Same for antidepressants and antipsychotics, if you are unlucky you get horrible withdrawals when you stop taking them, even when you taper down slowy. Such a nightmare, the withdrawals can last for several years.
You need to discuss Suboxone use and side effects. As a person that's been using Suboxone illegally for the past 4 years because I used to take norcos I found Suboxone the most cost-effective way of trading one addiction for another. I didn't realize how addictive Suboxone was and I recently tried to go to rehab to get clean and I couldn't even make it 4 days. After doing some research Suboxone is harder to kick the heroin and opioids it's up there with methadone little did I know prior to using.
!I know, I've been on Suboxone for about 10 years! For the life of me I can not kick it. I've tried so many times and its brutal. I'm now down to a very small dose (about 1.5 milligrams a day) but going to nothing is so very hard.
4:17 “I don’t feel as good as I did in October.” … that doesn’t imply it’s the working out the made you happier. You also stopped drinking. You aren’t comparing apples to oranges. You’re comparing a period of intense workouts and no alcohol to a period of less-intense workouts and (presumably) alcohol. Correlation =/= causation. I still love your show, Joe! ✌🏻
Also the fact he was doing challenges with friends. Aiming for a goal, the feeling of community, no drinking, and exercise can all contribute to a positive mood
@@bullycontracts7170 No dumbass. Naloxone is an opioid. Naltrexone is an opioid. Nalbuphrine is an opioid. Salvinorin a is an opiod. You aren’t educated about pharmacology so you don’t know what you’re talking about. An opioid is anything that binds to an opioid receptor. There are many opioids that cause no withdrawal.
I was taking 3-4 pills a day for almost 2 years. Left my job, kicked off insurance within a month. I had gone cold Turkey and I do not know how I am alive. I had so many bad days that I felt like I was dying in my bed. Kept praying bc every day felt like my last. The constant terror sucked. I’m still here, it can be done! It wasn’t easy but many battles build warriors!
I just got prescribed lorazepam in the ER because I had a racing heartbeat and the doc said I had bad stress/anxiety. He gave me a small script of lorazepam. I haven’t taken any. And from reading this comment thread I feel like I don’t want to. I don’t wanna be out of it all the time or end up depending on those things. I’m seeing a cardiologist in a few months just to be safe.
I stopped consuming alcohol, stopped benzo addiction and antidepressants. It was so hard, the withdrawal symptoms were hell, even after 2 years still had symptoms, and detox teas and exercise really helped me.
I've tried those breathing techniques, and I must say. Its also a placebo effect. Easier said then done when you have someone who genuinely suffers from anxiety and PTSD. Working out is key tho, I think that is the base to everything positive mind body and soul
I had a depressive/anxious "episode" that derailed my life after freshman year of college (there was no significant lifestyle or circumstances changes to really indicate why it happened). I had to take a semester off to sort it out because I could barely function. My confidence was in the gutter, I had very little energy, I couldn't think clearly, and it took an incredible amount of effort to complete even simple tasks. I was able to recover and "reboot" my life with vigorous daily exercise which gave me structure as well as the mood elevating effects of exercise. I re-enrolled in university and things went quite well for ~2 years. However, despite maintaining my almost obsessive workout routine, I slipped into another depression/anxiety "episode" and again my life went to pots and I fell out of a work out routine. I tried to replicate what had worked for me before by forcing myself to work out and have a structured life but it didn't work. I had no idea why the steps I had taken just a couple years earlier no longer were benefiting me and for some reason I was unable to get into a productive routine, especially working out - starting to work out is the hardest part as everyone knows and it becomes easier as you get into the routine and build up your fitness levels but for some reason it didn't get easier and I was like a zombie. I was prescribed klonopin (benzodiazepine) for anxiety and it completely turned my life around. I didn't realize the extent of the negative impact anxiety had on my life and the klonopin was a lifesaver. I was on it for just over a year and it helped me "reboot" my life again and become an effective, productive person. The medicine has its risks but thankfully I had a very vigilant, thoughtful doctor who made sure I was prescribed reasonable amounts, used the medication to take steps to get back on track, and when I was back on track he tapered me off slowly as to avoid the withdrawal/rebound effects mentioned in this video. Cliff notes: Exercise is great both physically and mentally but sometimes it isn't adequate on its own. Benzodiazepines can be an extremely effective tool when prescribed by a vigilant, experienced, and thoughtful doctor who understands how to mitigate the risks and get the most out of the medication. Unfortunately, there are loads of half-assed doctors out there who are uncaring money-grubbing types who are perfectly content with visiting a patient for ~15 minute appointments every month or two and write a prescription and forget about the patient until the next brief appointment in several weeks. Those types of doctors are how people get fucked by these drugs. I was very fortunate to just happen to have a very good doctor who was compassionate, very wary of the pros/cons of benzodiazepines, was very bright, and monitored my progress and prescriptions like a hawk.
Been on benzos for a while, advise against cold turkey but, if taken at doses needed and when in fact you are in a panic it helps. Also not always taking it for anxiety and panic attacks and letting those come on to play, it helps with dealing with it head on instead of popping 6 mg (3 2mg is my daily dose) I myself try to take it as needed. Also have a bottle Of gabapentin for seizures.
i usually exercise regularly and did for the past 2 years. then hit a depressive episode and found myself unwilling to do many things all of a sudden; i quit my job, my exercise club, my gym, i didnt get out of bed to eat. i didnt feel terrible but i felt very numb and neutral with no desire for anything at all. this was actually really helpful with my sobriety, as i was newly sober and having no desire to even leave the house, see people and drink because i was so depressed was actually a benefit for that aspect of things. i started going to therapy and that helped and also taking an SSRI that is helping which I don't intend on staying on long term. my mood is drastically better, i found a new job i can do and although my desire to exercise hasn't come back yet, I'm sure it will in due course. exercise is wonderful for the mood but not the be all end all, i think.
My dad was schizophrenic. He would hallucinate sometimes, but mostly it manifested as severe crippling depression, the kind where he was practically catatonic. After his first suicide attempt via overdosing on his meds, he lost his job. Later mom left for another man because she couldn't handle working 2-3 jobs anymore just to make ends meet, and honestly I couldn't blame her, though I sure as hell tried to. Shit was fucked up. But from the lowest point of his life he got back up on his feet and made something of his life again. He seemed...maybe not exactly happy but content with his life. Then one day he decided he felt so good about himself and where he was at that he went off his meds without anyone knowing. A week later he shot himself in the heart. He didn't come back from that. Fucking rebound.
Vorpal Cheezit I got cut cold turkey off valium after 5 years..I ended up in the ICU after a failed suicide attempt.It took me 6 months after that.Constant suicidal ideation. Sorry for your loss.
Vorpal Cheezit I’m so sorry, I can’t imagine your pain and loss. Doctors really need to emphasize with their patients that yes you will start feeling better on these meds, and that means that they are working, it does not mean you are cured and should stop the medication but if your thinking about it please come see me immediately before doing so. But they don’t do that, but they need to. They overlook to many things. My doctor years ago failed to tell me that you can’t take benzos and ambien together it can be deadly, and I did that a lot. All the docs wanna do is push the latest and greatest they get kickbacks for prescribing. Anyway, again I’m sorry about your dad. God bless and happy holidays.
im on an anti psychotic, before i was on meds i was stuck in my bed with crippling anxiety, i understand that pills are the last resort but without what im on , i would be dead.
Which anti psych out of curiosity? I was given an anti-psych for an extreme migraine in the hospital, just one dose. It gave me RLS for 3 weeks, for every hour of the day. And it also gave me extreme dysphoria, I felt like I was on a bad trip for those whole 3 weeks. Fast forward a year later - another extreme migraine. When I get to the hospital I let them know "No anti-psychs". And what do they do? They IV me one. Two minutes pass and I turn to my sister with tears in my eyes and tell her I think they gave me one. She didn't believe me at first, but after another minute half my face was drooping and my leg muscles tightened so hard my fucking leg almost broke. So it gave me dystonia for a couple days. Had to stay on the cardio floor because my resting heart rate was 150-180 resting. They treated me like royalty those few days, I was on fentanyl+ativan almost 24/7. I'm not a very vocal person, so I didn't try to take action against the hospital. But that whole hospital visit was essentially free, so I'm not complaining. Anyways my body chemistry is very weird. I'm hyper sensitive to DXM, cannabis makes me vomit profusely, and a lot of other things. I just wish I could remember what medication they gave me so I can put it on my record/file not to ever administer it again. Aside from that, the only drug I take daily is morphine/other opiates. Fortunately (and unfortunately) opiates are the only drug I don't get extreme side effects from.
Fentanyl saved my life from my Xan addiction. Became WAY to scared to even take half of one. Still crave the feeling DEEPLY on a daily basis unfortunately..
as a drug addict myself i always preach this to people that wanna do drugs "its ok to do it here and there but its not gonna stop the issues its just gonna help hold it back once that drug is gone everything you try to bury is gonna come out and that is whats gonna make you keep taking them" Edit: all my therapist warn me about the addiction sides of my meds but i guess its depends on where you are
I’ve been 9 years clean from heroin and been to many many rehabs and detoxes in my day and, although I had it bad, i always felt worse for the poor saps addicted to benzos. Also grateful I got out just as fentanyl started killing everyone who used heroin. Be safe everyone. Ask for help and without being too dogmatic, look into the effects of your behaviors.
The Ashton withdrawal schedule helped me kick a 2 year 4 mg. a day Xanax addiction painlessly. It uses a taper down using Valium and was really easy to quit benzos. It's been 9 years without them.
I was on escitalopram (SSRI) for almost a year. It made it difficult to sleep, it barely worked, it destroyed my attention span, and the physical withdrawals were disgusting. I kept getting this nauseating electric shock sensation throughout my body every 20-30 seconds for a few weeks after stopping I recently started self-medicating with marijuana edibles after it became legal here in Canada, and I've noticed a dramatic improvement in almost every aspect of my life. My stress and anxiety is reduced. My attention span has improved dramatically. It's as if I've gone back to having as much energy as I did in my early teen years. This is just from having a 10mg dose every couple days to keep a baseline amount in my system over time. I'm not even getting high.
Lexapro withdrawals made me absolutely lose my shit. I took 10mg a day (sometimes 15mg) for a year, and it helped me a bit for about 2 months. After that it was just side effects so I went off them cold turkey. The next 2 weeks of my life were absolute hell. Fevers, insomnia, insane mental instability (crying to laughing hysterically within minutes), terrible mental fog, just to name a few. All of that just from an SSRI 😳. I cannot imagine what benzo withdrawals would be like... I self medicated with indica THC oil for a bit, but eventually every single experience I had would turn into wild paranoia, even if I took as little as 10mg of THC... Nowadays working out, meditation and journaling keep me relatively sane. Hopefully THC still does the job for ya, anxiety can be incredibly overwhelming at times.
Everyone talks about the horrors of benzo's but its really dependent on the person. I personally have 2 people in my family that used benzo's for 10 years for anxiety and never went over a certain dose and were able to eventually taper down and come off in reasonably quickly. Personally speaking, xanax was a life saver during a long battle with Lyme Disease due to the ailments it caused with my nervous system. I also have a family member who was into all kinds of drugs and just kept loading up on xanax he bought off the street to the point of addiction and ruin. It's not the drug, because these drugs do have legitimate uses for people with chronic illness, disorders, and disease -- it's how the drug is managed. It doesn't just take over your life.
@@smart_for_a_retard Man, I relate to so much of what you said including the part about making fun of people that breath in bags. I used to think anxiety and panic attacks were people just putting on a show, but then a Lyme Disease infection hit me like a truck. To make a long story short it, felt like my fight or flight response was constantly "on." Adrenaline surging, feeling like i was going to puke, heart racing, mind racing around the clock, insane anxiety -- the only thing that would touch it during that period was Xanax. Nothing else they tried worked. It was the only thing that would allow me to get a few hours of sleep and to calm the nausea and racing mind while i was awake. I fear that videos like this and the addiction stories could one day get these drugs taken off the market completely when they can be life savers to the people that really need them and take them responsibly for a reason. I wish more stories like yours got out there rather than the stories you hear about people taking xanax at parties and becoming pill junkies etc. Glad you made it through brother and were able to tell your story. All the respect.
2b Blue you guys ever try marijuana? I feel like it would be a way healthier but what do I know I never went through what you guys did It...this was pretty much the only positive comment I saw and it was intriguing.
@@strappedserpent8383 Definitely understand where you're coming from. I've tried it and it can be hit or miss for me. Sometimes it's calming and relaxing, but other times i either don't get much out of it or the paranoia kicks up too much for my liking. If I could get to a point where it just makes me feel 'normal' and relaxed without feeling groggy or 'drunk' like Xanax can do, I'd be game (and no paranoia). .
its mainly due to genetics. ive known people that have taken benzos for 2 to 4 weeks who are completely disabled from it. it was prescribed by a doctor too.
I called Xanax the "tomorrow" pill. Minutes after you take em it's tomorrow
Alan sad but true
Yep, yup yup yup
Flubromazepam does that, too.
@A Google user Wait, so this shocks you? You abused your script and you ran out of your meds early and your freaking out because you can't get your script filled?
@A Google user go detox, they will taper you off most likely depending where you live or where your going . Benzo withdraw isn't fun. Can't take them daily if you gonna abuse them, because shit like this happens. Wish you well
I’ve been sober from alcohol and Xanax for 8 months today. Wish me luck guys! Cheers from SF
Best of luck and well done!
Cheers, couple years off Xanax for me. Are there any support groups here in SF that you go to?
Keep pushing!
Dont crack..he or she is never worth it.
Blessings!
I was heavily addicted to xanax from 2014-2018 and alcoholic from 2018-2021. Thank you God for changing my life! 5 years sober from xanax 2 years sober from alcohol 🙏
Congrats to you man 🥳 I've been on xanax since 2007 and a binge drinker since 2010. It's ROUGH to get off of
No you are not...
@@Claire-zg2diit is hard to get off of
No you are not…..what?
What is he not?
@@srdjanpiper6159 who are you talking to
"we're not supposed to be happy all the time" preach man!
Why not
@@TH-mb8io because if we'd have nothing to compare it to, happy would no longer be happy.
@@pyramid3811 fair enough for a sense of euphoria. However, what about being content all the time
@@TH-mb8io being content is different from being happy all the time. being content is just having an understanding of your living situations and life to know enough that things will be better if they get worse, not all of us have that luxury.
@@pyramid3811 agreed
You never, ever want to find yourself addicted to Xanax. I've been there, and I never want to go back. Xanax is not your friend.
😭
An insanely wild ride from a mellow high. I can’t comprehend it. Agree - stay away
100% agree. i think if we knew our addiction and withdrawl was just as serious as coke,opiats, yatta yatta we wouldent have been addicted for so long. stay away from the devils drug
@Cantwait4summer the way to do it is with alot of cbd and\or thc edibles. Another form of benzo with a small dosage to taper off. With an anti seizure medication. And pure prayer. The first 3 days are the hardest. Get through that you'll start feeling "eh i can beat this". Im the biggest xanax addict. Plz trust me. I was on 6mgs a day. Yes 60mgs. 30 bars. Not no more in Jesus name. Well like down to 4-5 but graudually going down 💯💨🤙🙌🙌🙌
Cantwait4summer I didn’t get addicted I just bought about 50 bars as a one-off and kept eating them till I came out of a blackout being told and shown videos of myself being a zombie. My weakness is in binging not addiction
I was out on adhd meds as a kid, and in order to counter the bad side effects, my parents and doctor put me on a bunch of SSRIs, primarily Zoloft. I don't take the ADHD meds anymore (they caused so much harm) but I can't get off Zoloft. If I go one 24 hours without it I'll have migraines and the worst nausea imaginable. If your kid is not performing well in school or hasn't been in a good mood, please consider making changes in their life and education rather than mess with the chemical composition of their brains, especially when they are still developing. The combination of these dangerous meds mixed with traumatic events have led me down an extremely dark path, and I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy
migraines are fkn nuts - you need to seek a natural medicine based doctor with stocks of knowledge on this - i bless you in your discovery
I agree soo much man. 90's and 2000's doctors were handing that shit out like candy. It's way better to make other changes before messing with their developing brain chemistry. I hope life is good now man!
Praying for you Ziggy 🙏🏾
What’s wrong with ADHD meds? All the kids took them in the 90s and 00s and are fine???
@@stevesharpe3370 lol no we aren't. Most of us suffer from varying degrees depression, anxiety, and are dependent on a medication to not feel sick lol
I got Xanax prescribed by a doctor for anxiety. I had never even heard of Xanax. Was fully hooked after the first bar. I did them for about 9 months. Most of that time was a complete blackout. Wrecked a car, lost a job, went to jail and even pissed the bed a time or two. So I decided to quit cold turkey. I went from have hundreds of milligrams in my system to zero. Was the worst 2 weeks of my life. Have never been so sick and literally thought I was gonna die. The irony is, I took them for anxiety and the addiction and all the bs that comes with it caused way more anxiety. I really can’t believe that doctors put people on that drug everyday.
It’s not the doctors fault you abused your medication
@@Joel-cw1gd think b4 talkin bro THINK
@@Joel-cw1gd how does the Xanax work for your anxiety?
Good thing you’re okay bro quitting benzos cold turkey can kill you. Hope ur doing netter
Did you suffer any seizures?
I went to prison 2016 and I was abusing tf outta Xanax 10-15 a day my tolerance was so high I would wake up and eat 5 to start off. Just to feel "normal". Boy those withdrawals where hell. I couldn't eat for 2 weeks. I lost about 15-20 lbs had violent diarrhea too, cold sweats .
(Almost had a seizure too)All in jail 😂
What would you think would be a good amount to take and how often to avoid addiction?
@@Apxthetic98 take half once a day that way you don't fuck off your tolerance.
@@deeznutzz316 half a bar? Really that’s it? I took a whole one yesterday and I just felt barely relaxed not sluggish or anything. Does a persons size play a part in tolerance?
@@Apxthetic98 no it doesn't it all depends on how many u take. Well since ur up at 1 try 2 a day.
@@deeznutzz316 I’ll try it. At what point would you say would be good to stop at or avoiding going past? Like how many a day?
Xanax is like having a time machine that only goes forward and steals all you stuff
Sooo true someone put an OD amount in my drink trying to kill me thank God my doctor new exactly what it was before it was too late.
@@ianeugenechapman7975 correct, however normal doses of benzodiazepines in conjunction with other drugs or alcohol can cause respitory failure fairly quick. Dont use benzos, don't you wanna remember the fun you've had
@@SuperiorRecaps careful around bars, clubs dude
@@Darth-Hylian use phenibut, same feeling but you remember it all
god so well said
My doctor prescribed me 2mg Xanax a day. She said it would just be for 2-3 weeks until the anti-anxiety medication kicked in. She did not tell me the next 6 months of my life would be hell trying to quit. The panic attacks I got trying to quit were 10X worse than any panic attack that I had before.
If you can go 5 to 6 days of those panic attacks, they are easy because the worse of it goes away after like 5 days
Xanax is usually prescribed for it's almost instant anti-anxiety properties. It doesn't take a few weeks to start working. One pill is all it takes. They can even be taken during a panic attack and are commonly prescribed for that because they work so well.
There are plenty of anti anxiety medications that do take a few weeks to work. Most are non Benzos though.
@@josephgeorgeejr7039search ‘benzo PAWS’
Same. The cure was worse than the ailment imo. Hardest withdrawals I ever had out of all the withdrawals was Xanax. Coming off each time I was usually in jail lol go figure. Glad I’m 15 years off from playing with psyche meds.
So true 😖😖
Xaxax is hell
Tolerance got up to 8 a day back in junior year, in a span of 6 months and I didn’t care if they were real or not, shit was bad. Fucked my family dynamic up, had about 6+ seizures trying to quit and had my mom trying to wake me up from 2+ of them. Had no concept of cold turkey. Couldn’t eat n was throwing up bile for a wk. I was 5’11” and dropped to 140 after quitting. What they said about anxiety and depression is 100% true. The negative thoughts don’t stop and they make u change as a person. Been clean since quarantine started and haven’t looked back. Hope this motivates someone to stop!
Respect that you were able to pull that off during quarantine
Yeah the seizures are the worst total blackout until u wake up and don't know what the is goin on,I didn't have any for a few days and end up buying a pack I took 2 1mg xanax and the minute they kicked in I literally fell to the ground walkin through the city ,woke up against a wall with 2 grocery store staff standing in front of me ,i just got up and walked off didn't know what I was doing ,xanax is crazy won't be touching them again
@enjoi gaming adopt a philosophy stronger than the drug, good luck in the battle over yoursef
The issue with severe depression and anxiety is that when people tell you to do exercise you don’t have the confidence or motivation to do so and the longer it goes on the worse it gets and the harder it is to do that, feels like you’re stuck in a deep hole and it just keeps getting deeper
idk you but i love you. it’s hard to not beat yourself up about that stuff but don’t let em have access to your emotions like that. People say that stuff to try to get a reaction out of you.. i’ve also been in that severe depressive state as well I was addicted to adderall from 15-18 and i’m 21 now and still recovering.. It feels like a hopeless cycle of guilt and shame but don’t give up! say your affirmations/prayers/manifestations and keep pushing💯Trust me it’s tough thinking about the big picture/end goal when you can barely get out of bed or brush your teeth but when you hit rock bottom the only way is up🙏You don’t gotta become some body builder, just focus on making ONE small tiny change at a time. Whether that’s go to bed earlier or eat X food instead of Y. Reach out if you ever need a friend you got me!
@@sarahko1014
I’ve never read such an accurate description of what I go through daily. Additionally, I also feel like beating myself up for not being in a position to be motivated/confident and as a result, not being able to exercise or do simple things like that. Thank you kindly for your words and I wish you all the best with your journey as well.
- a Canadian
@@sarahko1014what are u talking about people are not telling u to try exercise to provoke you they are trying to be caring and give genuine advice
The thing is thought, that you can exercise even in your home, no need to go anywhere, but I get it can be difficult if you just can't find the motivation to even start it. If you don't exercise at all, this will surely on it's on cause a depression.
I take psych meds, and I wish I didn’t, and I do all the other stuff: ie lots of exercise, healthy food, meaningful social life, etc. It’s best to not take anything if you can, but it’s obnoxious to hear people who don’t need psych meds to tell you about them. Obviously they’re overprescribed, pharmaceutical companies have a profit incentive, and changing your habits is the best thing, but maybe Joe Rogan and Dr Wily Beardo here don’t know exactly what’s going on with me or other people
Who’s Sarah Tonin? And how do I meet her
I've been looking for the bitch 4 while, I give up now.
She lives in alaska I think.
Garry's benevolent sister
I heard that she’s related or closely associated to Sharon Peters, but I’m not positive.
She’s 5ft11
Physical Activity: improves mood and libido
Side effects: strong ass core
Multiple studies have been done where it's basically do "x" amount of exercise for this long and the amount of people who report positive effects are like 60%
Nothing beats coke and booze.
@@skrelentless nothing besides my 500 morning ab crunches duudeeee
anxiety causes tiredness and high stress controls the way of breathing. physical activity is the last solution.
@@sidahmed789 haha..
I was on Xanax for almost 15 years. I got off of it in 2020 best thing I've done in my life. At some point you have to realize it's easier to deal with anxiety than addiction
After 10 years of living on Benzos and alcohol i finally ended up in a psychiatric ward before going into rehab. I was so paranoid, anxious, neurotic and in so much pain that every day i thought i was going to die. It was like having a panic attack 24/7. It took at least 10 months before I started feeling somewhat "normal" in my own skin.
Xanax and other benzos are no joke.
I enjoy Xanax.
@@OrangeDiamond33 Yeah, that's the problem. They make you feel great. But if / when they get a hold of you then you're in deep shit.
Took 5-10 Xanax bars a day for about 9 months. Quit cold turkey, had a violent seizure 2 days later. Be careful.
Damn man. How could you even function? Not well I suppose. Cold Turkey was dangerous, it could've killed you bro. Glad your better.
@@26michaeluk bit of an exaggeration I suppose, at the start I was taking 1-2 then tolerance built up fast. Before you know it your missing days and weeks of your life. Scary fuckin stuff. I dunno how doctors can prescribe that poison to someone and sleep at night. Thanks for the kind wishes appreciate it man!
@Constitution101 369 do you ever get motivation and concentration back after getting off vyvanse
Hot yoga can help alot. I know it has helped me. Never been on anything.
@@rotyler2177 yet
Nearly died on xanex. It’s a beast. 4 yrs sober from it.
Juke congrats man, you're a beast
how ya feel today?
What?! Congratulations man God bless you!
Good 4 you. I got a benzobeast wearing me down right now. I hate that guy...
Good job! Keep it up!
Been sober from cocaine and Xanax for 3 years now , sadly though my friend did not make it , he passed about 3 years back from Xanax pressed with fentanyl . If you struggle you can get better , it’s hard but it’s possible , you got this ❤️
Sooo sorry I sure hope so I know the fucking feeling
Ur friend's name wouldn't be lil peep would it?
@@jcruz3114 hilarious
It amazes me people still think Pharma companies have your best interests at heart.
One year clean of Xanax I was addicted for three years, I wasted away to nothing. But everyday I'm thankful to be here
C G great job! Keep it up
hope its still going well for you bud!
I was on ativan for years and went the through the same thing. Its tough man. Good for you stay strong.
Congrats bro. I'm in 8 months, let's try to keep it up ight?
Me too man !
I bet half his elves are on drugs.
Hahahhahahah rite over my head first time around how else could they get it all done in one night with out the oxycontin and adderall
You miss a lot but this was good
Hahaha! Fuckn gold
Lmao. Yes
Who's elves? David Letterman?
I feel very fortunate to have escaped this horrible drug, I had it prescribed to me in high school and I took it for years before it was taken away, and it was tough no doubt but I didn’t even realize I had been addicted to it.
prescribing benzos to high school kids, holy fuck
I started talking Xanax in my early 20s now 30 years later they want me to stop , it's going to be Hell , I wish I'd never started taking them .
If you're on Xanax for years these fool Dr's should keep u on them the problem isn't being on them the problems start when they take them away!!!
“That’s crazy. Have you ever done DMT?”
That's cool and all but I'm going to tell you about my sober October experience
Errllluup!!
✨😂✨
@@oliverocket yeah but have you heard of cbd ?
I’m assuming you all are just joking around, but if not, Joe wouldn’t have anything to talk about, and him referring to things is what makes him so interesting to listen to. It does get redundant because while we watch often, most of his guests don’t.
I agree, benzos are monsters! Alcohol and benzo withdrawal can kill you.
@Артём Волков
It's not a myth.
Most deaths from alcohol withdrawal are due to delirium tremens, an extreme form of alcohol withdrawal.
Try to go through an oxycodone withdrawal!! Good luck my friend. Just imagine the worst flu possible x10.
Mark D dude it’s not like that at all...10x the flu? Have you ever had the flu? Benzo withdrawal is worse than the flu and certainly much worse than opiate withdrawal.
Bullshit. I sat in jail for 30 days due to a bar fight coming off Xanax 2mg and booze been taking it everyday for 2 to 3 years at 30 years old. 7 days in i was feeling normal again. Unless you are a weak minded fuck you are not dying.
@@michaelcapo5512
I took 10mg of zanax a day for 20 years at 30 years old and got off of it in 24 hours, no problem. yall are just weak little people and I'm alpha AF!
I have worked out hardcore my whole life. However, I actually discovered at some point that a lot of my anxiety was actually because of too much exercise. It increased my cortisol levels too high, too often. Generally, exercise is obviously good for you, but I don't think that hardcore exercise or even a little exercise will cure everyone's problems.
Benzo withdrawals are like that feeling you get from nails on a chalkboard..... except you feel like that all the time
A safe taper is a lot better than cold turkey. You still feel bad, but not like you're dying
Illtempo 1980
...got that right.
klonopin withdraw is worse than oxycontin. i took both for 15yrs. got off the oyxes in 6mo.
it took over a yr.of "all my bones are trying to climb out of my body" to get off the klonopin .
@@fourdeadinohio8303 i honestly dont think ones worse i think its based on the person and the ammount because oxycontin was way harder then xanex to quit for me.. like 10 times harder physically and mentally
@@user-vz2sy7tx3w ..i can relate.
i had 3 back surgeries in the 90s and was taking 8 vicodins a day when oxycontin came out. i stared out with 2 5mg.
by 2015 i was taking 4 90mg. and 2 percs a day plus 3 klonopins.
i look back and can't even think how i functioned. just glad i'm not going thru withdraw any more.
I had a few years where panic attacks were killing me. They were so bad I lost control of motor functions. Tried Xanax twice and chose the panic attacks - that is one nightmare of a drug. Ultimately, going to the gym every morning and then swimming at night fixed me right up.
There is no doubt that benzodiazepines are bad…but I work out daily as well..
I still have major sensory panic attacks with extreme dizziness..actually they are getting worse..my BP is super low..so that’s being looked into..
Exercise is amazing..no question
But it didn’t cure all for me..at least for anxiety
Really there’s kinda nothing that works for some people…
I'm suffering greatly day 6 Xanax withdrawal. I feel insane, detached broke reality. Such weird insane stuff going on, I feel like I'm losing my mind. I thought I might be getting better but it's gotten worse the last couple days. Lots of panic attacks too. Praying this nightmare will end soon.
@@robertalust5466 benzos are the reason why the blood pressure is low. I experience that. I really wanna get off Xanax. Went from 3mg a day to 1,5mg 1,75 yesterday. I wish I could just wake up and my panic disorder disappears.
@@Topofthetopapex I hear you..
I wish mine would disappear too…
It’s a tough existence to struggle with panic disorder..and all the tools learned in therapy can go right out the window in the middle of a severe attack…it’s why benzodiazepines really work as that rescue…but they aren’t good long term at all..
Good for you for tapering..that must be difficult
My low BP is from really severe anemia..
Blood transfusions and iron transfusions can help with that..
Tried Xanax twice..... That's ridiculous
I'm so glad to hear a dialogue about this.
It's easy to fall into the trap of taking all the professional advice and medication you can get when you have fallen down in life. People need to read more novels, use that imagination to create your own infinite universe.
On the day you die, possess a universe within yourself.
Harness wild thought and ride.
Don't be a passenger in life.
I agree with you. I don’t allow my mind to create like I used to and it’s so much harder to get through things. Wish I knew how to get past that. Any tips?
He’s spot on with how drug companies are trying to convince everyone that regular human emotions and times of sadness and anxiety are somehow not normal and need to be treasured with a drug. People, everyone gets sad, everybody gets nervous or anxious. It passes, and there are ways to fix it that don’t involve highly addictive drugs
You've apparently never had a panic attack. It's not just being nervous occasionally.
@@aedsell youve apparently never tried sacking up and dealing with your shit
We're not talking about being sad every once in a while. You really don't know what chronic depression is?
Joe “I’ve talked to intelligent people” Rogan
durrr
@@traviscooke148 hurrr durrr?
I know right? Mr. High IQ Rogan. How about acknowledging the intelligent guy right in front of you dipshit?
haha this is my favourite one of these!
@@ZobethC yes
Xanax made me forget litteraly a decade of my life and nothing to show for it glad I'm off that I was prescribed for 15 years straight
Me to friend. Was clean for four years until two Weeks ago. Now I'm 2 Days clean and feel like Hell. Guess my brain had forgotten the withdrawel from these little suckers. It's torture.
Mann I don’t remember my 20s it’s unreal such a stupid move
@@Herbalattraction3000 stay up bro! Withdraw will pass eventually , I know it doesn’t seem like it sometimes
@Ian Dixon You can do it Ian. You gotta let people know you want to stay clean!
Did you take it daily? That’s insane!!
I was prescribed Lyrica for my neuopathy (my hands often went numb) after chemotherapy. Nobody told me that it was also prescribed for anxiety, and so when it didn't work to treat the neuropathy, and I quit it cold-turkey, I had INSANE mood swings.
Wher talking about Xanax not lyrica buddy
I've been injured a few times...had a lot of trauma from my youth and the good ole Dr's just prescribed Xanax, Valium, shoulder injury that led to painkiller prescriptions... screwed up my life for a bit. Proudly sober from pills for 6 Years now
Happy for you 🙏
I remember quitting Xanax my first week at college in 2013. I had taken adderal and Xanax every single day in high school as my doctor prescribed. I still remember withdrawing in my dorm room, forcing myself to go to the library to study, and literally hearing sounds and voices in my head in the quiet library. Took about 3 weeks to feel “normal” after 4 years of every day use. I would go on to substitute alcohol for the Xanax for the next 3 years until I quit drinking cold turkey too. That was much harder, took 5 months clean before I felt better and not in a mind fog. Sober life is boring but life gets boring as you get older anyway.
Sick Revolting Piss nah, you just have to find sober people to be around. Sobriety trumps addiction...hands down!
LOL it does get more boring as you get older, for sure. 😂
@Sick Revolting Piss You are a champion! I hope you are doing well even if you are bored. Peace
First off it depends on how much MG Xanax u were taking. I had a seizure taking 4-5 Xanax a day and decided to go cold turkey. The worse mistake ever. Xanax is a med where u NEED TO WEEN or taper off of. Even an ER doctor told me that. If you are just taking 1 mg it shouldn’t. 4-5 bars a day and cold turkey u will go into a seizure and the only way to counter that is take a bar and u will snap out of it.
life doesn't have to get more boring as you get old. just find new hobbies and things that interest you
Benzo withdrawal is absolutely awful. You take the drug in the first place to mitigate anxiety. Withdrawal for me was anxiety so terrible that my skin was crawling.
YEa. It just defers the anxiety so when you stop it all hits you at once. I just remember for 3 weeks my vision was blurry and my head was at war. Fireworks going off.
Feeling of an inexplicable dark coldness, not even a hot bath can heat u up
I didn’t take it very many times , but when I did the anxiety the next day was off the charts
Lol how much were you taking
That's why there is a process of getting off of it that takes a few weeks to many months.
Was prescribed Valium for PTSD & Anxiety, Vicodin for pain and Anti-Depressant for depression back in 1991 by the Veterans Administration.
I can tell you the benzo was by far the hardest both physically and mentally to stop taking.
I went through almost 1.5 years of mental issues before my brain finally balanced back out.
Today all I take is a multi vitamin and I can not tell you how grateful I am for my life.
✌🏽🇺🇸🙏
His example on nasal spray/decongestant is spot on. My dad has been consistently using nasal spray my whole life, and he wakes up multiple times a night to "hit" the nasal spray.
Ordinary states of sadness? You're not suppose to be happy all the time. Go figure.
I love and respect this doctor. I used to follow him years ago, can’t wait to watch the full interview.
I was already on 180 mg methadone when a dr prescribed four klonopins and four seroquels daily- for six and a half years I didn't miss a day and then he died and I couldn't get any more. It took my will to live. I lost almost 60 lbs in two months. You are right- it's much worse than opiates. Your brain is out of control for two months and I couldn't talk. I couldn't drive and lost the methadone two months later. I'm probably lucky to be alive! I was 66 years old when this happened.
I can get anything I want already. The last thing I'm going to do is start taking pins again. It's been several years and my mind is still messed up. I quit taking methadone after taking it for forty years about six months ago.
Worst withdrawal I’ve ever had and that’s saying something for me. Been through them all
Joe "I wasn't high as a kite for one month" rogan
Joe ‘cbd cures everything’ rogan
But Joe didn't start smoking weed all the time because a qualified medical professional told them it would fix his depression and didn't mention how addictive it can be did he? Also when was the last time you took a month long break from the antidepressants you're obviously taking?
Dr.4G Yeah I know, right. "I had no alcohol or dope or other drugs for a month. .... Wasn't the effect of the exercise on my brain amazing!" Uh yeh right Joe, it was the exercise. Coz y'know you don't exercise in the other months, the exercise will be it. Uh huh.
@@tomstokoe5660 You wouldn't tell a heart patient to stop taking their heart medication for a month. You wouldn't tell a diabetic to stop taking their insulin for a month. Mental illness is no different.
@@floydian51 You can cure/prevent most cases of diabetes and heart disease with diet and exercise. Mental illness is no different.
"Xanax is terrible!"
- So how much did you take?
"25mg a day"
- Come again?
This is way too common
I got 7 months clean off the xannys feel good.... I miss them tho floating around in the plaid pantry for 20 mins getting snacks then I time travel back to my place and wake up in my computer chair covered in twinky rappers
@@devantepoe2684 It is a devilishly good feeling, stupid though it may sound to non-users. With all the time I wasted nodding out in my teens and twenties, I could've had a PhD! I kicked a nasty heroin habit _in a flash_ compared to the trouble I've had with benzos, especially Xanax. Now the cartels are making their own 'bars' and putting fentanyl in them -- plus y'know Flacco's dirty hands are touching 'em -- so if there ever was a reason to stay away, that's two.
I was taking 8 of the 4mg pills a day
@@bveracka I'm kicking a 23 year long Xanax habit right now. Been 4 1/2 months clean after tapering off for a while with medical assistance. I took them as prescribed cause of severe anxiety and never did them to get high really. An average of 0.5-0.75mg 4-5 times a week. Now I'm struggling with terrible head tremors and muscle spasms. Like my central nervous system is in a constant fight or flight mode. Inner tremors, muscle tension, body "zaps", uneven heart rate, heat waves, constant anxiety. The list of withdrawal symptoms is long. Some say the symptoms could last for years, ref Ashton Report.
Thank you for your video
May I ask you how many milligrams were in each bar?
1 or 2 milligrams?
How long was you on Xanax?
I appreciate your video
I subscribed
When i go for 20-30km runs Its incredible how well i feel afterwords. Mental chatter disappear, i feel no anxiety , no guilt eating unhealthy foods or no rush to do anything. It isn’t fun to run long distances, but have’nt found anything that comes close to these effects besides for long runs. I hav’nt taken any antidepressants in my life. Which im grateful for.
I am a year clean and sober off of opiates oxycodone 10 mg. I was taking them as prescribed four times a day 6 to 8 hours for back pain after being injured in a car accident, for three years and still became addicted. I decided one day just to stop randomly. I don’t know if it was my inner voice or what?. The withdrawals was the most excruciating experience I’ve ever experienced in my time on this earth. You quite literally lose your mind. No, I’m serious. I couldn’t function in the most simplest of ways. The first three weeks of withdraw I had violent convulsions, somewhat like seizures. I became catatonic to where I couldn’t speak. I had horrible, anxiety, intrusive, thoughts, vomiting, diarrhea, I didn’t eat for about three weeks and became very very skinny. I lost about 30 pounds, even as the days pass while you heal it’s a very slow excruciatingly bewildering experience. It took me seven months to feel somewhat “normal”. I am now a year out. I feel fantastic. However, I do have side effects from years of abuse. I get brain fog, irritable, horrible anxiety, and panic attacks, and in some cases, depression, and detachment issues, but you do have good week’s sometime even a month or two is good. Id go through this any day than have to go through the horrible experience of addiction, as well as the withdrawal. My prayers are for anybody dealing with any substance abuse.🙏🏾
Good lord
Happy to hear you’ve made it through the other end of the tunnel brother. Things will only get better for you as time passes.
Years ago I broke my leg, they prescribed oxys for the pain and told me to take one every six hours. Well, I only took them at night to get the pain down a bit so I could get some sleep but I would always wonder why I felt like shit the next day. This was while ago when oxy was a new drug, never realized it was a mini withdraw.... I could not wait to stop taking them, thats how bad I felt the next day.... Yeah, not the drug for me....
Seriously try doing strict keto for a month. It got rid of my brain fog and anxiety after being addicted to meds and getting clean. It will help. A month will show you, you dont ever want to go back to carb life.
opioid withdrawal does not cause convulsions or seizures... benzodiazepine withdrawals do tho. were u also withdrawing off xanax or another benzo? thats the only way i can see you having convulsions.
From 24 yrs old to 29. 2 years straight of minimum 1mg xanax a day and 5 years of minimum 40mg of hydrocodone a day. Was a living hell to kick. DONT EVEN START!!!
I was addicted to Xanax about 15 years ago...the withdrawal is insane
It is hell, well done for kicking it,im still a long way to go yet 😔
@@TommyTripper hey tommy , just seeing this. How’s it going man?
I love benzos recreationally, but there’s absolutely no way I’d consider taking them regularly. My experience with alcoholism warned me sternly of how horrific the withdrawals from GABAergic substances are more than enough. That sense of peace and quiet combined with sedation is heavenly though
dude some people really do need it and it really sucks these addicts just looking for another buzz make it harder for us with serious anxiety to be taken as serious as our disability.
I’ve been clinically depressed most of my life and I have also been sober for eight months from alcohol and this clip inspired me to write a book about it
Good job man. Gabaergics are the absolute worst substances to use daily.
I honestly think alcohol is far worse than benzos as well.
Good man.
What was causing self-educating?
Yep great idea 💡
write another generic book about sobriety-
Just what the world needs.
@@wilyinfidel1091 💀💀
I had taken Xanax for 10 years! I’m two years sober now. I had to gradually get off them with small dose or tiny pieces also I found Rhodiola and Ashwagena worked wonders for my anxiety, not having a panic attack, and overall withdrawal. First year was uplifting momentum for being strong enough to know to get out now. And year 2 here I am researching chemical reaction and effects it has on the mind and body. I think that’s awesome about GABA because I started taking supplements for my chemical imbalance and Gaba I take daily. I miss the high of being “Happy” all the time. I was addicted to instant gratification. I had to re learn my emotions again because I had forgotten what it was like to feel anything other than happy. Someday I want to write a book. The toll it has on your mind and body is something I never saw or heard about to anyone who has got off Xanax. I just want to say you are stronger than you know! 🏆And I hope you are now living life to the fullest!❤️✊
Can I ask what your daily dose was at the time of kicking it?
2 years sober? Congratulations.
How did you determine you were "addicted"?
I've been on Xanax for about 20 years. I've tried tapering for months to like .5 most but I usually take 3mg a day and that's what I'm on and been on for years now. How do I get off this crap. It's terrible withdrawals, horriblle
@@NonBathingApe6969 i would buy me Gold scale (precision scale) and crush those pills and take every week 1% of the pills in less than of 2 years you are drug. Your body will change but your mind has also to change you have to hate those Xanaxs.
It's easy to say but it's worse than anything I've ever been on. And believe me I've done my share of substances in my life. Hands down the worst withdrawal, it's like opioid withdrawal but hallucinating, seizures, 4 times I've tried and failed. Damn near thought I was gonna die the last time. I have bad anxiety and panic attacks but I'm so sick of being dependent on it. The only way I could see it might happen would be a slow snail taper for a year smh
Harder to get off of than opiates? You’re goddamn right it is. I have kicked heroin and methadone at the same time, yet that was an absolute cake walk compared to benzodiazepines. It took me over 5 years to finally get off of Xanax…..it was the most terrifying time of my life, and I’m still not out of the woods yet
That is so awful I am sorry.
Damn did u quit methadone and heroin cold turkey at the same time?
@@lucarossi9453 I did to....a year later I started benzos....for 3 years I battled to get off them...full blown withdrawal symptoms compared to H and methadone...lol....I nearly almost jumped off my balcony on the 4th floor...no joke..been clean 16 years...but there are times when I still think about them..extremely dangerous drug...
@@thanosnwo5034 damn man that’s crazy.. happy for you that ur clean.. opiate withdrawals are definitely absolutely no easy thing to kick so I couldn’t imagine how hard benzos are
When you have a severe depression, exercise is completely out of reach, you just don’t have enough energy to get out of bed, forget exercising. First step is always and will always be looking inwards: sit with your depression, listen to it, listen to what are you responding to with a depressed state, find the source which is ALWAYS a trauma, and then find a good enough trauma therapist and take a long, hard road of regulating yourself and healing. This way you will improve your quality of life not for a few weeks but long-term, and once you start feeling better, regaining your energy level, this is when you start exercising.
In my humble opinion, the worst kind of addiction is that of alcohol. Not only does it deprive you of any human dignity, but it also ruins your entire body.
Yeah but alcohol withdrawals can kill you
Real panic attacks are just as intense as a withdrawal.
If you live with insane ptsd style anxiety all your life...
Withdrawals are laughable.
Pint in 15 seconds when I was 12..
58 cans in one day
, 15 top shelf long Islands.
Almost a whole bag of wine, 12 pack, half gallon of whiskey and vodka..
That Almost killed me.
Bartenders thought I was a freak of nature.
I started shaking when I smelled whiskey.. stopped immediately no problem.
Just blacked out for a week from Xanax last refill.
Will easily forget about them again.
Meth and Opioids were laughable.
Cigarettes I need intense work outs and keep busy.
But I'll suck ya off for a can of soda.. I need my high fructose and caffeine.
everyone is different
@@sigmaramenso can benzo wirhdraw
Alcohol is insidious because it is so culturally accepted and is basically everywhere.
If Xanax grew on trees, Joe would love them.
🤣 If Xanax grew on trees. The entire world would be in chaos...oh wait. 😑
opioids are made from plants
Actually the first benzodiazepines were synthesised from baldrian. So it kinda comes from nature.
@@dr.livesey7595 SYNTHESIZED
@@dr.livesey7595 reread your comment, houses are made out of nature it doesn't mean they're natural
It’s been a year since I had a seizure from Xanax withdrawal, it’s taken my money, my cars that I’ve crashed , 3 of em … and now I’m taking the bus to work 😢
Had a friend who was on xanax and when she quit she was having seizures and said it was harder quitting xanax than heroin
Depression is debilitating and is a disease...try and tell a person that can't eat,shower get out of bed or even feel love to just go exercise.Dont act like an expert until you are in that situation
Deborah Callahan Just go exercise you lazy fuck.
I agree completely! It’s bothersome that people who have never experienced major depression tend to liken it to a more intense version of sadness. It is nothing slightly related to sadness. Unexplainable really.
@Deborah Hesselblad. Well said. Easy to talk about how bad it is. But when you feel better from taking medicine that helps you. It’s a lifeline to many.
Thank you!
Yes you’re right. For some people like me however we had symptoms of anxiety/depression in response to trauma. I was prescribed a cocktail of meds for my PTSD and it helped rid me of the pain of it in the short term. 8 years after the initial prescription I felt it was time to come off. I think the point of what the doctor is saying is that these medications are over prescribed which I think they are.
From 2010 to 2013 I was a Xanax addict following the suicide of my mate. At the height of my addiction I ate 18mg a day.
An average day was 5 of the 2mg bricks. The withdrawals were horrendous, took me six months to taper off, and twelve months to be totally off the benzos. There is so much of my life from that period that I just don't recall.
Durf.
Wow how did you do it that’s amazing
you basically have erased memory i am dealing with same issues, i cant remeber verses its terrible
Getting off benzos was an incredible experience to say the least. My ears were ringing for over six months. I couldn’t sleep for almost two months. Then I found a new doctor and I took one zyprexa. Poof! My nightmare ended. I slept for 14 hours and my life returned to normal. Now I take a zyprexa maybe once every two weeks or so to break my anxiety cycle. I would be bat-shit crazy by now if it wasn’t for antipsychotics. Call it what you will….
Interesting. I do think antipsychotics could be helpful, I noticed particularly with stopping Xanax that I would get so anxious that it would get to the point of paranoia, so it makes sense. I’ll have to think about that. I’m almost done with a taper but terrified of stopping this last little bit because of what I’ve been through before. Had ringing in my ears too, burning pain between my eyes that nothing would soothe, afraid to sleep and afraid to wake up. There was no sense of well-being in my life or that anything could ever be ok again. Everything terrified me.
It's really hard to be about ppl that are "happy all the time" cuz it's feels so fake.
Send a text
To my ex
Blame it on xanax
Currently in the middle of coming off my Xanax and it’s HELL
Its gonna hurt bro. Smoke some bud, that helps.
Stay in there bud, I was on xanax and heroin for over 8 years and have been clean for a while now, I know the hell all too well, stay in there my friend! Go to a medical detox facility if you don't think your body can handle it or you've been taking very high MG doses daily like i was (10-20mg) I had to go to a facility where they could give me clonodine so i wouldn't have a seizure and die. Stay safe and I hope you a speedy and safe recovery man.
Quit that shit now, man
Stay with it. I'm coming off Clonazepam and I know exactly what you are going through!!
Stick with it. Try adding CBDs when coming off (especially if you can get away with a tiny bit of THC as well)
I absolutely love my Valium for when my anxiety gets TOO much to bear… But you CAN’T feel that way ALL THE TIME… I take it when it’s way too much and I consider it a little treat. I’ve taken 7 Valium’s since October and it’s March now. I’m way too scared to take it consistently because I don’t want it to STOP working. It’s a security blanket for me and my heart goes out to those who had to face battles with this drug 😢
I died from xanax 5 years ago. Still don't feel the same.
Try interval training, if you're having trouble exercising in the coffin look up Dr. Sperg, has some good tips on micro exercises.
lenikrof you died from Xanax? No you didn’t. You can’t fatally overdose on Xanax alone.
r/quityourbullshit
@@Gamerfanize well I did, and there is nothing anyone can do to prove otherwise. r/ekt
VillYum lol seriously?
Green Legend google it
Xanax probably saved my life. I had severe panic attacks when I started attending college in my early 20s. Got suicidal it was so bad, for me benefits of taking it far outweighed the risks.
Really i have panic attacks would that help me
James Smith it absolutely will. First I recommend working out daily to burn off your stress as it’s most likely the cause of your attacks. Fix the triggers around your attacks as much as you can and try to get a dr to prescribe you a low dose of Xanax or Ativan.
did you try working out 4 hours a day? did you eat bread? did you dose magnesium? or did you just jump on Xanax?
Heck yeah, me too and I get to keep all my cognitive abilities, zan has a bad rep. And never addictive for me, alot of times I don't even remember to take during non anxiety times
Really Xanax ruined my life
So is there any way to not get addicted if taken for a short period of time. Looking to get some medical intervention for my anxiety and I fear getting prescribed any sort of pills due to the fear of getting hooked.
Same for antidepressants and antipsychotics, if you are unlucky you get horrible withdrawals when you stop taking them, even when you taper down slowy. Such a nightmare, the withdrawals can last for several years.
You need to discuss Suboxone use and side effects. As a person that's been using Suboxone illegally for the past 4 years because I used to take norcos I found Suboxone the most cost-effective way of trading one addiction for another. I didn't realize how addictive Suboxone was and I recently tried to go to rehab to get clean and I couldn't even make it 4 days. After doing some research Suboxone is harder to kick the heroin and opioids it's up there with methadone little did I know prior to using.
Suboxone is worst to get off than herion or opioids. Best way is cold turkey.
!I know, I've been on Suboxone for about 10 years! For the life of me I can not kick it. I've tried so many times and its brutal. I'm now down to a very small dose (about 1.5 milligrams a day) but going to nothing is so very hard.
@@TheLochs I wish you best luck. I’m trying to live a sober life amd it’s so fucking hard . But we have to try and keep trying.
You have to ween it slowly. Going cold turkey is gonna suck. Ween off slowly and you will experience little to no withdrawals.
@@N8turenut that's completely wrong. Lol. Cold turkey is the worst way you cold try and come off Suboxone. Smh
I’m not addicted to Xanax but if you have some I’m buying them all
Dick Gozinya lmao that sounds like me same with painz
Research tolerance withdrawal..I may have pottenialy saved your life. Type in Benzo withdrawl hell on CZcams
Juney Lo look into it bro
For me, a 1.5g shroom trip lying on a field watching the clouds go by with a couple of good friends worked very well.
Need to do this
Amen
Eat the whole eighth mannn
I’ve done this and can agree with your statement
agreed
4:17 “I don’t feel as good as I did in October.” … that doesn’t imply it’s the working out the made you happier. You also stopped drinking. You aren’t comparing apples to oranges. You’re comparing a period of intense workouts and no alcohol to a period of less-intense workouts and (presumably) alcohol. Correlation =/= causation.
I still love your show, Joe! ✌🏻
Also the fact he was doing challenges with friends. Aiming for a goal, the feeling of community, no drinking, and exercise can all contribute to a positive mood
Whenever I hear these things, I'm so glad I live in Europe....I could never live being a puppet of pharma lobbies
You’re a puppet of Jews
Joe “CBD oil as well” Rogan
🤣
Lol because there is some serious withdrawals from Xanax an cbd an non from opioids
@@bullycontracts7170 Cbd doesn’t cause withdrawals dumbass. Not all opioids cause withdrawals.
@@Cbd_7ohm all opioids do cause withdrawals you stupid fuck
@@bullycontracts7170 No dumbass. Naloxone is an opioid. Naltrexone is an opioid. Nalbuphrine is an opioid. Salvinorin a is an opiod. You aren’t educated about pharmacology so you don’t know what you’re talking about. An opioid is anything that binds to an opioid receptor. There are many opioids that cause no withdrawal.
Xanax withdrawal made me go insane for about 3 days, then I was fine
How so? I didn't know Xanax was that fucking bad wth.
Been there bro. Anxiety hyperawareness to the 100th degree. Very dissociative/out of body like coming off of those devils.
Yea man I had some of the most terrifying psychosis from xan withdrawal. Terrifying is an understatement actually
Just never stop
Whats fucked up is youre not fine. Youve been in a coma. This is all your imagination.
I was taking 3-4 pills a day for almost 2 years. Left my job, kicked off insurance within a month. I had gone cold Turkey and I do not know how I am alive. I had so many bad days that I felt like I was dying in my bed. Kept praying bc every day felt like my last. The constant terror sucked. I’m still here, it can be done! It wasn’t easy but many battles build warriors!
I just got prescribed lorazepam in the ER because I had a racing heartbeat and the doc said I had bad stress/anxiety. He gave me a small script of lorazepam. I haven’t taken any. And from reading this comment thread I feel like I don’t want to. I don’t wanna be out of it all the time or end up depending on those things. I’m seeing a cardiologist in a few months just to be safe.
I stopped consuming alcohol, stopped benzo addiction and antidepressants. It was so hard, the withdrawal symptoms were hell, even after 2 years still had symptoms, and detox teas and exercise really helped me.
how are you feeling these days?
If detox teas and excersise was enough then you clearly wasn't depressed.
I've tried those breathing techniques, and I must say. Its also a placebo effect. Easier said then done when you have someone who genuinely suffers from anxiety and PTSD. Working out is key tho, I think that is the base to everything positive mind body and soul
No real doctor will ever prescribe something they can't profit off of.
Heroin, Xanax, OxyCodone addict here. Opiates are the hardest to get off of, especially if being done intravenously.
I had a depressive/anxious "episode" that derailed my life after freshman year of college (there was no significant lifestyle or circumstances changes to really indicate why it happened). I had to take a semester off to sort it out because I could barely function. My confidence was in the gutter, I had very little energy, I couldn't think clearly, and it took an incredible amount of effort to complete even simple tasks. I was able to recover and "reboot" my life with vigorous daily exercise which gave me structure as well as the mood elevating effects of exercise. I re-enrolled in university and things went quite well for ~2 years.
However, despite maintaining my almost obsessive workout routine, I slipped into another depression/anxiety "episode" and again my life went to pots and I fell out of a work out routine. I tried to replicate what had worked for me before by forcing myself to work out and have a structured life but it didn't work. I had no idea why the steps I had taken just a couple years earlier no longer were benefiting me and for some reason I was unable to get into a productive routine, especially working out - starting to work out is the hardest part as everyone knows and it becomes easier as you get into the routine and build up your fitness levels but for some reason it didn't get easier and I was like a zombie.
I was prescribed klonopin (benzodiazepine) for anxiety and it completely turned my life around. I didn't realize the extent of the negative impact anxiety had on my life and the klonopin was a lifesaver. I was on it for just over a year and it helped me "reboot" my life again and become an effective, productive person. The medicine has its risks but thankfully I had a very vigilant, thoughtful doctor who made sure I was prescribed reasonable amounts, used the medication to take steps to get back on track, and when I was back on track he tapered me off slowly as to avoid the withdrawal/rebound effects mentioned in this video.
Cliff notes: Exercise is great both physically and mentally but sometimes it isn't adequate on its own. Benzodiazepines can be an extremely effective tool when prescribed by a vigilant, experienced, and thoughtful doctor who understands how to mitigate the risks and get the most out of the medication. Unfortunately, there are loads of half-assed doctors out there who are uncaring money-grubbing types who are perfectly content with visiting a patient for ~15 minute appointments every month or two and write a prescription and forget about the patient until the next brief appointment in several weeks. Those types of doctors are how people get fucked by these drugs. I was very fortunate to just happen to have a very good doctor who was compassionate, very wary of the pros/cons of benzodiazepines, was very bright, and monitored my progress and prescriptions like a hawk.
very similar to my story. good for you man , you doing ok?
I really enjoyed this full interview, great guy!
It's a great drug if the patient can use it as needed and use the correct dosage.
Been on benzos for a while, advise against cold turkey but, if taken at doses needed and when in fact you are in a panic it helps. Also not always taking it for anxiety and panic attacks and letting those come on to play, it helps with dealing with it head on instead of popping 6 mg (3 2mg is my daily dose) I myself try to take it as needed. Also have a bottle
Of gabapentin for seizures.
i usually exercise regularly and did for the past 2 years. then hit a depressive episode and found myself unwilling to do many things all of a sudden; i quit my job, my exercise club, my gym, i didnt get out of bed to eat. i didnt feel terrible but i felt very numb and neutral with no desire for anything at all. this was actually really helpful with my sobriety, as i was newly sober and having no desire to even leave the house, see people and drink because i was so depressed was actually a benefit for that aspect of things.
i started going to therapy and that helped and also taking an SSRI that is helping which I don't intend on staying on long term. my mood is drastically better, i found a new job i can do and although my desire to exercise hasn't come back yet, I'm sure it will in due course.
exercise is wonderful for the mood but not the be all end all, i think.
My dad was schizophrenic. He would hallucinate sometimes, but mostly it manifested as severe crippling depression, the kind where he was practically catatonic. After his first suicide attempt via overdosing on his meds, he lost his job. Later mom left for another man because she couldn't handle working 2-3 jobs anymore just to make ends meet, and honestly I couldn't blame her, though I sure as hell tried to. Shit was fucked up. But from the lowest point of his life he got back up on his feet and made something of his life again. He seemed...maybe not exactly happy but content with his life. Then one day he decided he felt so good about himself and where he was at that he went off his meds without anyone knowing. A week later he shot himself in the heart. He didn't come back from that.
Fucking rebound.
Vorpal Cheezit I got cut cold turkey off valium after 5 years..I ended up in the ICU after a failed suicide attempt.It took me 6 months after that.Constant suicidal ideation. Sorry for your loss.
Vorpal Cheezit I’m so sorry, I can’t imagine your pain and loss. Doctors really need to emphasize with their patients that yes you will start feeling better on these meds, and that means that they are working, it does not mean you are cured and should stop the medication but if your thinking about it please come see me immediately before doing so. But they don’t do that, but they need to. They overlook to many things. My doctor years ago failed to tell me that you can’t take benzos and ambien together it can be deadly, and I did that a lot. All the docs wanna do is push the latest and greatest they get kickbacks for prescribing. Anyway, again I’m sorry about your dad. God bless and happy holidays.
Vorpal Cheezit
I’m so sorry for your loss, God be with you and God bless you. 🙏🙏🙏💯
Vorpal Cheezit so sorry you had to witness that. Must have been so hard for all involved. May he RIP.
sorry for your loss
What is a good brand of fish oil
I've been through antidepressants and even antipsychotics. The first never worked and the second just made me unbearably restless
im on an anti psychotic, before i was on meds i was stuck in my bed with crippling anxiety, i understand that pills are the last resort but without what im on , i would be dead.
Which anti psych out of curiosity? I was given an anti-psych for an extreme migraine in the hospital, just one dose. It gave me RLS for 3 weeks, for every hour of the day. And it also gave me extreme dysphoria, I felt like I was on a bad trip for those whole 3 weeks.
Fast forward a year later - another extreme migraine. When I get to the hospital I let them know "No anti-psychs". And what do they do? They IV me one. Two minutes pass and I turn to my sister with tears in my eyes and tell her I think they gave me one. She didn't believe me at first, but after another minute half my face was drooping and my leg muscles tightened so hard my fucking leg almost broke. So it gave me dystonia for a couple days. Had to stay on the cardio floor because my resting heart rate was 150-180 resting. They treated me like royalty those few days, I was on fentanyl+ativan almost 24/7.
I'm not a very vocal person, so I didn't try to take action against the hospital. But that whole hospital visit was essentially free, so I'm not complaining.
Anyways my body chemistry is very weird. I'm hyper sensitive to DXM, cannabis makes me vomit profusely, and a lot of other things. I just wish I could remember what medication they gave me so I can put it on my record/file not to ever administer it again. Aside from that, the only drug I take daily is morphine/other opiates. Fortunately (and unfortunately) opiates are the only drug I don't get extreme side effects from.
Meds make me feel like a zombie fuck that I’ll take the lows and the highs
I got on an ssri trying to fix my anxiety and I’m still dealing with the side effects after only taking it for a few months.
Fentanyl saved my life from my Xan addiction. Became WAY to scared to even take half of one. Still crave the feeling DEEPLY on a daily basis unfortunately..
as a drug addict myself i always preach this to people that wanna do drugs "its ok to do it here and there but its not gonna stop the issues its just gonna help hold it back once that drug is gone everything you try to bury is gonna come out and that is whats gonna make you keep taking them"
Edit: all my therapist warn me about the addiction sides of my meds but i guess its depends on where you are
I’m glad I found this. I feel like this man could do a lot of positive for me
I’ve been 9 years clean from heroin and been to many many rehabs and detoxes in my day and, although I had it bad, i always felt worse for the poor saps addicted to benzos. Also grateful I got out just as fentanyl started killing everyone who used heroin. Be safe everyone. Ask for help and without being too dogmatic, look into the effects of your behaviors.
The Ashton withdrawal schedule helped me kick a 2 year 4 mg. a day Xanax addiction painlessly. It uses a taper down using Valium and was really easy to quit benzos. It's been 9 years without them.
I was on escitalopram (SSRI) for almost a year. It made it difficult to sleep, it barely worked, it destroyed my attention span, and the physical withdrawals were disgusting. I kept getting this nauseating electric shock sensation throughout my body every 20-30 seconds for a few weeks after stopping
I recently started self-medicating with marijuana edibles after it became legal here in Canada, and I've noticed a dramatic improvement in almost every aspect of my life. My stress and anxiety is reduced. My attention span has improved dramatically. It's as if I've gone back to having as much energy as I did in my early teen years. This is just from having a 10mg dose every couple days to keep a baseline amount in my system over time. I'm not even getting high.
i also took escitalopram and had the electric shock thingy after i stopped taking them.
i found it to be very annoying...
Lexapro withdrawals made me absolutely lose my shit. I took 10mg a day (sometimes 15mg) for a year, and it helped me a bit for about 2 months. After that it was just side effects so I went off them cold turkey. The next 2 weeks of my life were absolute hell. Fevers, insomnia, insane mental instability (crying to laughing hysterically within minutes), terrible mental fog, just to name a few. All of that just from an SSRI 😳. I cannot imagine what benzo withdrawals would be like...
I self medicated with indica THC oil for a bit, but eventually every single experience I had would turn into wild paranoia, even if I took as little as 10mg of THC...
Nowadays working out, meditation and journaling keep me relatively sane. Hopefully THC still does the job for ya, anxiety can be incredibly overwhelming at times.
Everyone talks about the horrors of benzo's but its really dependent on the person. I personally have 2 people in my family that used benzo's for 10 years for anxiety and never went over a certain dose and were able to eventually taper down and come off in reasonably quickly. Personally speaking, xanax was a life saver during a long battle with Lyme Disease due to the ailments it caused with my nervous system. I also have a family member who was into all kinds of drugs and just kept loading up on xanax he bought off the street to the point of addiction and ruin. It's not the drug, because these drugs do have legitimate uses for people with chronic illness, disorders, and disease -- it's how the drug is managed. It doesn't just take over your life.
@@smart_for_a_retard Man, I relate to so much of what you said including the part about making fun of people that breath in bags. I used to think anxiety and panic attacks were people just putting on a show, but then a Lyme Disease infection hit me like a truck. To make a long story short it, felt like my fight or flight response was constantly "on." Adrenaline surging, feeling like i was going to puke, heart racing, mind racing around the clock, insane anxiety -- the only thing that would touch it during that period was Xanax. Nothing else they tried worked. It was the only thing that would allow me to get a few hours of sleep and to calm the nausea and racing mind while i was awake.
I fear that videos like this and the addiction stories could one day get these drugs taken off the market completely when they can be life savers to the people that really need them and take them responsibly for a reason. I wish more stories like yours got out there rather than the stories you hear about people taking xanax at parties and becoming pill junkies etc.
Glad you made it through brother and were able to tell your story. All the respect.
2b Blue you guys ever try marijuana? I feel like it would be a way healthier but what do I know I never went through what you guys did It...this was pretty much the only positive comment I saw and it was intriguing.
@@strappedserpent8383 Definitely understand where you're coming from. I've tried it and it can be hit or miss for me. Sometimes it's calming and relaxing, but other times i either don't get much out of it or the paranoia kicks up too much for my liking. If I could get to a point where it just makes me feel 'normal' and relaxed without feeling groggy or 'drunk' like Xanax can do, I'd be game (and no paranoia). .
dr malcom ladder (an expert on benzodiazepines) estimates only 30% of people who use benzos will go through a really hard withdrawal.
its mainly due to genetics. ive known people that have taken benzos for 2 to 4 weeks who are completely disabled from it. it was prescribed by a doctor too.