2013 Scion FR-S - Jay Leno's Garage
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- 2013 Scion FR-S. Jack Hollis, VP and General Manager of Scion, joins Jay for a top-to-bottom rundown on the heritage-inspired FR-S. Designed to go from road to track, its front-mounted flat Boxer engine cranks out 200 hp and a whole lotta fun driving!
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2013 Scion FR-S - Jay Leno's Garage
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Jay Leno's Garage
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As a 10 year old, I put together a model of a Toyota 2000 GT Convertible. I took it to school to show my friends and our teacher took it away from me. I'm now 56 and I still haven't forgiven her. Mrs. Frankenhoff, wherever you are, I want my car back!
most likely in a grave...
^^^
Thomas Olson I guess boys aren’t allowed to be boys.
That was training so you'd know that Authority Figures actually own your stuff. They giveth and can taketh away at a whim.
@@KutWrite They can take my damn Hotwheels collection of my corpse
Jay Leno schooling this guy who is the VP about the boxer engine is pretty epic.
Well... Toyota doesn't use boxer engines... Subaru does lol. So it's understandable... And plus the vp isn't the one building the engines so he doesn't need to know the history of the name lmao, that is completely irrelevant... You don't have to know the origins of boxer to be able to build one from the ground up either.... Just saying
+Stuntihn MX If I was the VP of an automobile giant Id know Inline, V, boxer and rotary. That's basic. Volvo, American, Subaru/porche and mazda in that order.
Yes, as someone who owns a GT86 the lack of knowledge on the boxer from Toyota can be annoying. Sometimes you have to consult Subaru specialists to get answers to stuff.
That guy is a salesman not an engineer. That's the first problem with his presence.
"....Nnnnnnnope." kek
Why do people think this car was built for the drag strip... Americans.. (I'm Texan) This is a Japanese car built for daily driving and amazing handling along-side very practical for sharp turns, and mountain roads. This thing is a fucking blast to drive. Have a white one, 25000 miles broken in. New tires, better air intake... Thing is a BLAST.
Tom Bennings ill keep mty c6 vette u have fun being beat by mini vans and yes the vette handles as well
Ken R You have no corvette. My money says you don't even have a drivers license.
S2000 ftw
Tom Bennings Totally with you (see my post). I have to say that I was concerned about the power before I bought it. But at 60k miles it doesn't feel underpowered at all. As Jay sais, it's not a muscle car. It's a sports car. And cnsidering I'm surrounded by spectacularly maintained twisties all around, it is the ultimate car value for where I live. Nothing - NOTHING competes with it for the dollars.
Oh. and mine's white too.
Tom Bennings Have you driven one of these? They are a ton of fun and tail happy, but sharp track machines? No, not in the slightest. Can it be set up for road course, auto cross and so forth? Absolutely. But out of the box, it's a very "unique" driving car. At least here in Europe the Toyota GT 86 version is, and I doubt it's any different in the states.
My 2013 manual 6 speed FRS just turned over 60k miles. I also just put my second set of Bridgestone RE11A's from Costco on stock rims. I drive a 160 mile round trip commute from central KY to Louisville, halfway point is Bardstown. I cannot emphasize enough how many times that thing puts a smile on my face pretty much every single day on the 40 miles of twisties (each way) with virtually no traffic. And I can take multiple routes, all equally fun and about the same commute time.
This car is a BLAST. And I can also get my bass and a small bass cabinet into it and still have room for a passenger. Oh, and for three months I "hypermiled" and averaged 40.1 MPG with one tank, but it was mostly in the 38-39 mpg range.
I also just got back from one of my many trips to Chicago (grand kids there) and it is very comfortable on those trips. My wife and I are both over 60 and it is STILL comfortable for us.
BTW, I don't drift as much on the RE11A's as I did with the factory tires, but it is a small sacrifice to have a car that rides on rails.
It is another way that my life today is what I could only imagine as a young man that a person could experience daily.
Just bought a red 2013 FRS for my 22nd birthday. I remember being 13 and wanting this car when it came out.
6 speed manual
I'm in a similar boat and finally could afford one. Enjoy your ride!
I just bought a midnight blue 2013 on Christmas eve.
Dude I remember seeing the first FRS commercial of a red frs driving through the mountains! I've wanted it ever since but I had a family at a young age (19) and now I have 2 months left to pay off my family car, I will finally get my frs
It's like what Jay said, you don't have to go 90 mph to feel the excitement cuz even at low rpm and at 65 mph the car feels fast. It's doesn't have to be fast just feel fast. Built for the track and comfort of the road. and it's an affordable sports car.
srvanjoy yep no prestige anyone flipping burgers can afford it
anyone flipping burgers can buy a Corvette if they're dumb enough.
i guess, i mean if you make enough money you can afford a lot faster car that cost more obviously.
Devon Nettnin
yrash living with mom and daddy or a shitty cheap one bed room apartment allows that
umm no its called hard work i moved out on my own by the age of 19
I've daily driven this car for 7 years and I still absolutely love it every time I get behind the wheel. 102K miles and still runs like a top!
Scion needs to get better reps that actually know their product.
I agree. He did come a little less prepared. Jay really knows how to put someone in the corner, hoping they can drill their way back out. This guy faired a little less than most. No disrespect intended.
Yes that's true. Here in Australia it is called the Toyota 86. Little weird, but hey, that's what it is.. Why would you buy the Subaru clone ??
I see plenty of the Toyota version. Even the chicks are getting in them.
+Royalbigness how is it a subaru clone? The 86/frs/brz was a colaberation throughout the company's. I personally don't care which is which. Their all the same exept for interior and some exterior things. I mean subaru is trying to get the most of it right now since there working on a STI version of brz.
+Isaac Munoz on tv and talkin to super jay, i'd be a little boob nervous my first time out to. :)
+Isaac Munoz That's why Scion's goin' down the drain. What a f*cking hack.
I like the FR-S, but this guy is trying too hard. He sounds more like a high pressure used car salesman than anything else.
I agree. But it is a lot of pressure to be VP and represent Scion while talking to Jay Leno, I imagine.
Great car indeed!
This dude should be a good salesman
true - I think he is just a little over enthusiastic. he seemed to know a lot of the specs that he was asked about.
Aha
I had a friend that had one of these, while he was on deployment his wife brought it back home and I had the opportunity to drive it. His was an automatic version, absolutely loved the car. It actually handles very well and it really is fun to drive
Bought a 2013 back in October. I still love it everyday
So glad this car exists, and an interesting point on the tall drivers! I'm 6'7" & nearly 300 lbs myself. Its a tight fit, a snug fit, but definitely a comfortable one. Love my FRS.
I just bought a 2013 Scion FR-S 10 Series and Love It!!
My uncle just bought a wrecked one and he loves it too! He fixed it up in less than 3 weeks
I remember when I first saw this car I fell in love with it. Now at 20 yrs old & a college student, I’m pulling up in style with one 🤙 (same color lol)
I think some people forget the true nature of the gt86. It's like a blank piece of paper and the owner can create their masterpiece and express their vision through this car. So many directions and limitless possibilities.
was the guy who was supposed to be interviewed sick that day?
Mike Tallon I seen this comment before the guy started talking and wondered,"How bad could he really be? Its his company's car..." I now see how bad he is. He should be ashamed.
same guy launched the Toyota Avalon recently
Nope he is the vp
We need an MR2
Pretty hilarious that there's so many comments from people who believe that the GM of Scion didn't know why it was called a "boxer" engine".
They clearly didn't notice the deliberately considered pause and then the gesture towards Jay...
What he said was "no"; what he didn't say (but was most certainly thinking): "sure I know, but it's your show Jay, so you tell them".
It's fairly easy to spot if you have reasonable social skills and decent understanding of human interaction and polite social behaviour.
I can't wait to see some turbo's and superchargers for this thing. A 300+ HP FRS is gonna be sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It makes me happy to hear that Leno's an MR2 fan. I love my 1987 MR2! I just wish I had the money to replace my blown engine.
Blown engine? What kind of blower lol.....
Looking back, Jay just got it. He got the car and how people would react to it. Even predicted the huge aftermarket scene for these cars. Didn't even seem prepared, just knowledgeable.
yeah probably to do with the gearing. different gears can give better acceleration, or you can go the other way for better gas mileage.
i don't like this Scion guy.. he sounds like a typical car salesman and it makes me uncomfortable. slow down with your marketing speech.
He did not know what boxer means. That was the dealbreaker.
terry947 ya the pistons are horizontal and push outwards instead of straight up and down.
I know right? say 2758lbs one more time
Jeffrey Prihoda Um, he knew. He helped design the car. It was an exchange so Jay can answer his own question for the cameras.
+p4horror He DID not help design this car he's just the marketing nark for scion that's why no car enthusiasts like the brand and why I rebadged my FRS and did a nearly full jdm conversion to it
Jay leno"s Garage is the best show on CZcams No other show comes close to the amount of content that he puts out with each one of his episodes. Its not just about the cars, its also about the amazing people that are behind the making of these works of art and amazing machinery, and the history of it all, and he grasps each and everyone of those points every time. Great Series Jay, keep up the Great work. I just wanted to let you know all of us enjoy your work and this hobby, thanks for sharing!
massive respect to jay leno for his knowledge on cars and his overall great personality!
Jay: you know why it is called a boxer engine?
Guy's brain: (Who the hell doesnt know why)
Guy: No
Jay:Cause it does this (punches)
Guys Brain: (I dont want to live in this planet anymore)
This guy probably lost his job after this video
I though love at first sight was a joke, then I met this car
jay is the man, he knows a lot about cars and their history, humble, he makes you see the positive side of each car, and the way he expresses his passion and love about car is just like any young car enthusiast,
I miss you scion 😢
One of my dream cars right there!
Dream on, dream until your dream comes ture.
Josiah Thibodeaux Will probably buy one when I am done college in 2 years, could afford one now (barley) but want to go off to another to school next year so I will need the money for that.
+Harrison Davis Some of the best things in life are worth the wait.
TOO go slow?
+Afghan Lion not the only dream car, just one of the many, and one of the more realistic ones. The true dream car would be a Singer 911
I have a 2016 Frs and it's fast enough, probably because it's so light. This car has the same HP as the 1986 mustang gt, so 200hp is pretty good.
Random comparison by far
I like how Jay is so ballin that he doesnt have to have any bias in his review
I’ve had mines for 6 years now and I love it!
Thanks Leno for the review. I recently bought a 2015 FR-S last month, unfortunately it was automatic, but still a fun car. Your right about the aftermarket thing too, and I am on the hunt.
With this car, you can take the transmission to a skilled transmission shop, they can modify the transmission to make it fully manual. They have to weld two metallic hinges near the speed sensor and also grind down the teeth on the speed sensor gear, and I think also removing one checkball from the part with all the checkballs. If you can have them do that then it will only shift by paddle!
And it will have more torque and faster shifts than a real manual conversion
Mclaren, Ferrari, and Lamborghini need to take a hint from Toyota about how to design cars properly. This weighs less than virtually every car those supercar manufacturers have ever made, and yet it costs at least 8 times less than all of them and uses STEEL, not carbon fiber and titanium.
That's actually really true 😹
+Fat Pineapple But their engines are usually much bigger and if they are not, then they have massive turbo or superchargers. Super cars manufacturers also really have to worry about aero which isn't that much of an issue in a car like a Scion.
The brz/frs are actually very aerodynamic, only slightly more so than a Prius. The drag coefficient is basically the same as a GTR, .01 better if we're talking specifics. I do agree when it comes to downforce, the 86 twins don't produce much. It's a good thing there's no shortage in the aftermarket for splitters, diffusers, canards, and giant wings, all in carbon fiber if you have the money.
mclaren ferrari and lambo dont need to copy toyota, those are luxury cars and have a special niche in the market, toyotas are mass production poormans car, if you flip burgers at mc donalds you aint geting no lambo, and if lambo and the high end manufacturers made cheap cars their prestige image would drop dramatically
I was complaining until I drove one. It handles better than the STI, EVO, WRX, MS3, and the GTI I drove. Handles amazing and has enough power to get you in trouble and it can get tail happy.
I bought mine in April of 2016 and I love it and I take turns doing 90 miles an hour like it's nothing
@9:27 wait, isn't that an A pillar?
Bisofication year late but yes
That boxer engine "tid bit" was actually really interesting this why I like jay. Also I think the brz is little better, but the frs is way more adorable.
BRZ and the FR-S are basically identical
Agreed, although the FRS has a stiffer rear spring and softer front spring than the BRZ. I've read that this gives it a slight edge as far as turn in and makes it just a tad more oversteery. Most people just get coilovers for both so that all becomes nil in the end.
I'm 59 with a 122 mile round trip commute on the twisties of central KY 5 days a week. Been doing it for 2 years with a 2001 chrysler 300m with the "suspension package" and love it. I'm getting one of these next week. I'm just trying to decide on the transmission. During the test drive it sure reminded me of my old Opel GT.
cant wait to get one. re-badge. rocket bunny. plasti dip. sooo nice
You would love slammed Sundays near where I live.
Brandon O In OC?
Justin Yeah
RICERS
+zum $2000 bodykit and then plasti dip lol
4:45 " this represents the engine WE'VE created"? We?
Subaru.. created
well it has toyotas d4-s fuel injection system, and I'm not 100% on this but i heard it has toyota heads on it
Subaru didnt even bother with direct injection, until BRZ/FRS
Nathan McCallister Yea no Toyota heads here, It's not worth producing Heads for a Boxer engine which only goes into one model of Toyota by Toyota. It's all Subi.
I mean Subaru is owned by Toyota....hence the existence of the car..
Indeed; it is similar to how Lamborghini, Bugatti, Bentley, Porsche, Audi and Volkswagen are all Volkswagen, actually.
i told people thats what the FR-S is design for fun not to be souped up and ran like musle you want musle you get a mustang or camereo this car was design for us paly car track guys 25k and fun to drive :) FR-S =Front engine Rear drive Sport . i own the orange limtied edtion fr-s
around a twisty track......not so much. Boxer BRZ wins.
@@fredericopinto2943 bet I have driver mod
@@fredericopinto2943 honestly the eclipse gt would probably be slower in a straight line too unless it's the 3.8L one
The incredible thing about this car is that it is fantastic from the factory, but has room for so much growth with aftermarket modifications. It can be a daily driver, but can also be a very formidable racer with some new tires, turbo, exhaust, and suspension kit. I can't wait to buy one. The people hating on this car either haven't driven one, or have no appreciation for true sports cars.
Always knew how the Boxer motor was different with horizontally firing pistons but never thought of why it was specifically called a 'boxer' until you were making the jabbing motions; - nice job Jay! Taught me something new.
I cringed when he didnt know what a boxer engine was...
+masterofsloths Well, maybe he was just being polite, like letting the host do all the explaining. All in all, I think he fared pretty good, given the fact that his agenda was to avoid "Subaru" and any other related term/technology as much as possible.
In reality, he is the vp so all he needs to know is business... He could get to that slot just from being good with people...
He knew what a boxer engine was, he didnt know why they called it boxer
@@supernova4300 ifhe knows what hachi roku is... he knows what boxer is
3400 rpms at 80mph seems a little high, but I assume it's geared low and not targeted at long-distance driving. Not what I was expecting out of a 6-speed after driving a 5-speed for so long.
Exactly like you said. You're not supposed to drive it at long distances. It would be quite tiring.
Taking 50 MPH left turns at a stoplight feels awesome due to the cars low center of gravity, overall light weight, and low Boxer engine.
I've been in one, a buddy of mine owns one and it's one of the smoothest cars on the market and it's got some pretty strong internals
The guy from Scion didn't even know what Boxer meant
Yea but it's something engineers who work for Toyota (owners of Subaru) should know
Pat Dow yes Toyota owns 16% of Fuji Industries. lol
he did know what it is, he just didnt know why they called it a boxer engine
Umm Toyota Sports 800 had a horizontally opposed "Boxer engine" in 1962 called the U2. Subaru's first boxer engine didn't see the light of day until 1966.
And your point is?
12:26 he was right
I have a friend named Rob who has this and its awesome. I love the way the car feels when it changes gears (Manual). Its in your face (in a nice way) but still pleasing and after riding in it...I actually want it!!!
Man, Leno is just such a stand up guy! I really appreciate that he gave the dude the wave at 12:50 Hell of a guy. One woman, lots of cars, great personality and taste.
Although Brz and F-rs are practically twins, I personally think Brz's are more attractive. I gave it a try and unfortunately its not as fast. With 4 cylinders, at least the exhaust sounds good. The headlight projectors are freaking sexy, they look like 6ks fact one of the brightest lights on the streets. It's a bit compacted for me though. I'm in Colorado so it wont be too pretty in the snow unless im drifting ahaha. If you plan to pursue the car, hook up a turbo! It should be pretty clean :)
No need for a turbo! For the "Scion" version HKS will have a supercharger available. Much better for this boxer in my humble opinion.
37robles that supercharger will give this car 350 hp, which is going to transform it into a rocket ship considering the weight of this car............you will need to get better breaks and so on, so it doesnt end there, not to mention the supercharge will cost you about 5500.......
no need when you got a supra
amen to that. The ft1 looks pretty sick too D:
if its not too much to ask, what car do u drive currently, you seem to know a lot about cars lol.
RIP Scion
Rest in Hell Scion.
You can say that now again.
Lol rest in hell. I already re-badged mine Toyota lol
@@229Mike keep your scion badges. In the future it will be cool and the new generations will love it. Like Datsun with Nissan
It reminds me of the Porsche 944 line-up. Both have 4 cylinders, both are very fun to drive, and both have a timeless design that will identify them as real cars.
I had an 82 Subaru GL wagon with the boxer engine. It was front wheel drive, manual shift, and you wouldn't think so from looking at it, but it was fun to drive. I would love to get another one
But it's a tuner car that's great with a turbo kit
I think Jay forgot to switch off the traction control as you'd do a burnout easy in this. In fact, those Michelins are from a Prius, to intentionally make breaking traction easy.
Yeah I was gonna comment the same thing until I saw your's. He definitely didn't have traction off lol that was weak, I've done better in my mom's Camry lmao
He didn't give it nearly enough revs, and he didn't push in the brakes enough, that's the problem. That wasn't a burnout, it was a launch, this car can definitely do a burnout.
When this car first came out, it screw with my mind. One day I saw a guy with the Subaru sticker on, I thought, he's just slap that on for show. I didn't realize they were twins. Well, the Subaru is the favorite ones, it's endowed with more bells and whistles.
thank you!! plus all the after market pieces that will be coming out for this car will give you more than enough power to drive with your right foot and still have the precision that makes these cars what they are. which is a drivers car!
Seems pretty cool, but I don't get how the VP of Scion didn't know why its called a boxer engine.
because it's the first one they ever put in a car i guess? .. also they had subaru make the motor
I think he would rather just let jay have his moment to inform than just say yes and go on
Nino K my guess is he's more a business man than a car guy.. you dont get as high as VP just because you know engines
Jeff Rose True, i just meant if I was VP of a potato manufacturer, i'd familiarize myself with Idaho. :).
Nino K Cant argue with that point.. I'd like to think the VP of any company has experience beyond the board room.. but sadly its not so lol
Man. This poor VP guy is such a hack. How many times can I say Heritage and Boxer in 13 minutes?
Abel Stearns and "matter of fact"
This video is one of the main reasons I decided to get my FRS. Yea I wanted a Celica also, but this car handles great. Enough power to have fun. Easy to get loose in the corners if you want. Having a blast. Thanks Jay for posting this. FYI The 85 Supra only had 170 hp. Only car I have had that handled better.
I think we are all talking bout the 90s supras lol
Jays the best, truly great to watch
well if jay leno owns one it must be a good car
HE DOESN'T OWN IT THEY BROUGHT IT FOR THE SHOW.
The car's power / weight ratio would be a lot more favorable without Jay in it.
Nice to hear that Jay was a big fan of the Celica; I am too! That's why I bought my GTS recently : )
You were right about the aftermarket stuff for this car is amazing
Rocket Bunny it!
The FR-S doesn't have more power because it was designed to be simply a sportier looking and feeling Toyota Corolla, nothing more than that.
(It's a 2-door , Rear-Drive corolla, that's all it is, nothing more.)
so was the AE86 which is why it was so awesome. Don't need tons of power if you know how to drive something like this
Wolfgang is absolutely right there is a tsb to replace this problem ....fixed ours and it's perfect now....there is also a cpu flash for the idling issue as well!
Wish I was in the market for a car, or I'd definitely be looking at his as a potential purchase. Saw it the other day at Toyota when I was getting my truck serviced, and man they are fine looking. I don't really car much for sports cars, but this has a nice sporty look without being too flashy, and enough power to weight to have fun in as a daily driver. Really have to see it in person to appreciate.
aswtx75 dont look all that to me looks cheap
i just don't understand why he drove the FRS instead of the BRZ.. the BRZ is far prettier in my opinion..
Yes, u r right basically all luxury at the brz limited trim and cost 2,000 more well worth it.
They are both equally as ugly.
No the BRZ isn't. To me the the FR-S has the better looking front bumper.
Jay never drive a turbo supra huh.
Just got my frs 2015 and im loving it. I really want to learn how to track it.
Jay I've always been a classic car guy but I recently bought a WRX and love it. It would be cool to see more from Subaru and its rally legacy on your show. Nevertheless I will always be a fan and enjoy hearing your knowledge and wisdom.
What was he talking about when he mentioned 4 11s? Tire size?
Rear differential gear ratio 4:11
The FRS and BRZ are equipped with low rolling resistance tires from the factory made for the Prius. THE PRIUS.
That must have been Toyota's idea. I can't imagine Subaru coming up with that.
Theyre not the stickiest tires, and theyre definitely not good all seasons. But they are fun as hell. They did this for a reason. It's too much fun losing the back end on these tires.
If you're into taking turns at high speeds, I'd get new ones when they wear out because these aren't too confidence inspiring on temps below 10 degrees Celsius.
But if you're into losing the back end at relatively low speeds (like me), these tires are fun and the fact that they're on a prius doesn't bother me one bit.
I actually remember jeremy clarckson driving one of those in top gear, he was sliding around at 40mph.. that's what they are aiming for, the car the 16 year olds want, so they can kill themselves in it ;)
GalvatronTypeR and while we're at it, the platform is based on the WRX. It's not a ground-up new design.
Nick B When my original tires wore out, I picked up Bridgestone RE11A's. The car then felt like a race car, but I kinda missed my daily drifting on my commute. Also, the factory tires would scream like banshees when they broke loose. Sometimes it was fun, but sometimes embarrassing. I just replaced the RE11A's with a new set, going up from 215's to 225's.
It's not really about drifting any more (thought I still do it a few times a week. It's more about being a slot car.
I just bought a GR 86(new) &
I’ve had 2 Celicas & a Solara.
Great cars! I love my new one.
I remember when these were new and I constantly seen the commercials of it
How much does the car weigh Jay? lmao
This car needs more hp and torque and massive sound proofing inside! Lots of road noise especially on highways and rough roads. Don't drive it when the road has cracks and pot holes; if you do you be sorry!
+HW2800 I've got 81k on mine now. Noise is not an issue. It's not a Rolls Royce, but it's not all that loud. It's also quieter than a Lotus. :)
+HW2800 Try driving something with little sound proofing and a louder engine (like a Lotus Exige/Elise), then come back and drive the FRS and you'll be praising it like it's a gift from God.
Have one of these on the way, planning on a turbo/tune as soon as it’s financially viable!
Truer words have rarely been spoken.
not fast but 200hp i'm sure it ain't slow neither seems like it's got potential to be a fast car with a few modifications
Inna Leonoff But instead of spending money on this, why not buy something that was faster to begin with? You will need to put quite a bit of money into that thing to make it really fast. Brakes, engine internals/externals/work, injection, ECU, mapping, quality suspension and other chassis parts etc. It adds up VERY quickly, and you lose the warranty and reliability, not to mention resale will drop like an anvil off a cliff. The car might be worth a lot to you, but most people won't touch a modded car with a ten foot red hot poker.
are you hinting at the s2000 ;)
Because he likes and wants to mod his FRS.
it gets good gas mileage too 25mpg city i believe better than s2000 which got around 18mpg city
+Inna Leonoff i took a road trip in my mine yesterday and got 35mpg highway.
can you do the Subaru BRZ?
Same car just with a better interior, stiffer suspension and a few minor cosmetic changes. Everything else is the same.
Shane Rohr You meant the brz has stiffer front suspension. The FRS has firmer rear suspension.
Shane Rohr The interior is the same also. Just depends on the trim level you get. There are 2 trim levels in the Scion and 2 in the BRZ.
Jetkillr as of a year ago when I was checking both out and test drove both, the interiors were different. All the Scions had real cheap looking fake carbon fiber whereas the BRZ had a completely different center console with none of the cheap fake carbon fiber. I believe there is also a difference in materials but don't quote me on that. Keep in mind I don't have any hands on experience with the current model year so things could have changed.
Shane Rohr there's no difference in interior between the two cars. Non. At. All. Obviously you have many options, but with the same options, they look exactly the same.
I drive an '88 MR2 Supercharged and I love it except in the winter when the T Tops leak. It's got 150 HP with a 1.6 litre twin cam and it is super fun when the supercharger kicks in but I am really leaning toward the FRS. The BRZ is very limited on colors but the FRS has quite a few colors I like.
My 11 year old is in love with these. He actually got a salesman to take him for a test drive, and the guy got it up to 100mph and slid it around a little for him. He was on cloud nine.
Moron couldn't think enough to turn off the traction control for Jay. Fired.
0:47 the 370z..
I had the same thought as you but the 370Z is more expensive. Not a lot more money though. The FRS/BRZ and the Mazda Miata are some of the greatest bang for your buck sports cars out there IMO. I actually own a 2013 370Z and I always tell people who are looking for a sports car but say the FRS and BRZ don't have enough power, spend the extra bucks on a 370Z. They're heavier but they handle extremely well and are a lot faster and more powerful thanks to the V6.
mhtube01 chris harris tested the GT-86 against the 370Z and a used cayman, he picked the 86 over the 370Z
Well everyone has their opinion. Some people prefer certain cars over others. I was just saying that the 370Z is a great car and worth looking at if you want something faster than a BRZ or FRS.
mhtube01 for 3-4k more and almost 130h more. its very worth it.
naveenshanv Yes I agree. As an owner of one, I can tell you first hand it's a great car. People like to hate on them and say they're slow but they are NOT SLOW. It may not be the fastest car out there, but it's very quick and will keep up with cars that cost twice as much and is capable of reaching speeds the ricers couldn't even dream of.
This car has potential everywhere. Looks, racing, everyday driver. Hopefully this is the reincarnation of sports cars
I'm with you there, hence me getting the BRZ and not the FRS. Got mine about 2 weeks after you, even stock it's a beast. Outran an M3 out at Sear's Point about 10 days ago! Cheers!
It looks so good, but your grandpa's Camry will leave this car in it's dust.
8:19 the moment when the VP of Scion realized that Scion would never be "cool".
Dream car. All though the back seat is very small wouldn't be much room for my wheelchair. And love your car collection. Lucky guy.
I would love to see a new MR2. I loved that little car
jay acts like hes never heard of a supra
True that
This car weighs 2758
SeeDelane why does it weigh again?
Jay is awesome and a car historian!
This or the BRZ with a proper turbo and a good tune is about all you really need for a super fun, great handling RWD sports car.