Part of it, I attribute to how North America and Australia view cars as opposed to Asia and Europe. For North America and Australia, a car is a necessity for the majority in sprawled out cities and people buy cars based on what they need for everyday use. For the rest, a car is a luxury/ toy and people buy them based on what they want to feel/experience and afford.
It's like people have to keep appearances up. "My budget only allows a compact sedan for $30k? No let me get this crossover, full size with all amenities. I'll just cut down elsewhere and everyone will love me in it"
Kirk, Some of your subscribers may be too young to remember when Nissan made cars that were very competitive with Toyota and Honda. Nissan has nobody to blame but themselves (Renault) for the decades of mediocrity which have resulted in today's predicament. 🤨
When Nissan came out with their Van in 2006 that thing had some many problems and Nissan never pivot from the run, they never fixed any of the problems.
Actually, when both Nissan and Toyota first started selling in Barbados over 55 ~ 60 years, Nissan had the slightly better reputation, at least engine wise between the two.
@@slumy8195the seat height and ease of getting in and out are the reasons why suv or cuv are doing better. I too like cars but I prefer to sit in a full size truck or suv.
Since 2019, I've had a 2018 Altima. I was not in the market for a car when I bought mine, plus I had mixed opinions on the CVT, but pulled the trigger and took my chances. Aside from routine maintenance, the Altima has not spent a single night in the service department. Mine is the Deep Blue Pearl SR, which illuminates in the sun or after washed. I've gone on countless road trips in it, and not only is it a competent, capable highway cruiser, it is very comfortable and handles well. Not to mention how efficient it is, I rarely fill up despite driving five to seven days a week. All in all, I think the Altima is a highly underrated, unappreciated value in today's car market where every truck and crossover uses similar design language that lacks uniqueness. Nissan is undecided on another generation of Altima, but I think they should give it another chance by introducing the proposed hybrids, especially considering that Nissan still sells a decent amount of these cars annually despite the overall decline in popularity of sedans.
@@slumy8195 Completely wrong. The bigger the SUV the taller it is, it's more upright, heavier, worse gas mileage, handle like shit, look generic. It's a glorified soccer mom minivan that people drive thinking it's cool. It's not. Governments need to start banning these boring appliances.
I’m so fucking sick of this shit. As a 22 year old. There is nothing affordable right now and they are discontinuing everything to cater to older people who want these underpowered crossovers and SUVs man… Just because people want more crossovers doesn’t mean FLOOD the market with them. It’s annoying and stupid because sedans STILL have buyers as long as you make them right!
Exactly no young guys want to buy crossovers just because old people are buying them. It's sad we losing performance sedans in this country Lancer Evo, Chevy SS sedan, Altima SE-R, Ford Taurus SHO, V6 trim level Toyota Camry is now removed and only available in 4 cylinder for 2025 and Honda Accord removed turbo engine option so yea we not left with many fun sedans no more they discontinuing everything and replacing it with retirement age group vehicles
Many cars are heavily discounted via lease deals (which you can generally buy out and keep those heavy discounts). I'm just letting you know in case if you are looking
The US government tricked its people into buying these vehicles for "safety" and "family" reasons. "Get an SUV because the gas mileage is the same as regular cars and you get extra room for your kids and stuff and you sit higher off the ground and blah, blah, blah." The average American thinks the same way and fell for the okie doke. This country is just full of sheep. Everyone isn't a family man. Everyone doesn't want a vehicle with a high center of gravity. And they all look the same. I laugh at the sheep when I'm driving thru a parking lot and all these damn SUV's are lined up looking like a real car lot. Everybody has to hit the panic button in the parking lots because they can't find their SUV in the sea of them. I see more SUV's on the side of the road during the winter because those sheep who fell for it still don't maintain the vehicle and think because I have AWD or 4WD, I'm invincible. I'm not going to be a sheep so it's cars for me till my heart stops beating.
@@tjhouston1280 young man. I feel your pain. But it's not because everybody wants SUVs nowadays. Is the cafe laws for emissions that persuade car companies to make three row vehicles, as they do not fall under the same emission regulations as a four-door sedan or a coupe. Myself I like a big high performance 4-door, not necessarily an SUV. But I tell you since everyone is driving SUVs now I feel like I need to get one too. Why you may ask ..? For privacy. Everyone in these SUVs is looking at me in my car. I think psychologically they feel like they can run on my bumper and zoom around me only because of the advantage that they have been able to see everything I'm doing in my car. Super large SUVs command a different level of response / respect when people can't see who and what you're doing they seem to behave different I think. It's a freaking shame. As a matter of fact I got to tell you people didn't used to drive like this on the road either. Everyone was in such a big rush....to get to the store.... For the freaking drive-thru at McDonald's. I hope you can find you a really nice coupe or a four-door sedan but that will please you somehow someday. I've been looking at those old Acura Legends lately. Find a way to bolt on a supercharger and get it up to 300 horsepower. Some of those big old sedans even come with a 5-speed manual. Blessings to you young man. 🤟❤️💪
Some crossover is not much different from hatchback. My Nissan leaf, which is 155cm tall, classified as hatchback, Lexus UX is 153cm tall yet classified as crossover SUV.
Crossover/ SUV (Small Utility Vehicle) America want Crossover, that's y many USA didn't buy sedan anymore. Manufacturers also followed this trend 📈 other markets. i live in Asia sedan 👍 with spare 🛞. But after 2020 every Japan vehicle sell here brand new SUV Crossover especially Toyota Corolla Cross, CHR/ Honda WRV, HRV without spare 🛞. Now 2024 for Japan car's didn't have spare 🛞, even the based model corolla/yaris/camry doesn't have spare 🛞. It's bcause trend 📈 manufacturers followed others Europe & Western. Now we as human pay the price with high price vehicles.
Which is exactly why they want to kill it! They're realizing that a lot of americans are willing to spend more money on SUV's and they want to sell what makes them more money!
Just came back from UK, gas price there is about $6.50 a gallon. There are still so many tiny car like Yaris, Fit, and Fiesta. UK is still selling new car with roll down window and manual transmission. I am sure no one will buy these kind of car in US. We can blame the car company, but at the end of the day consumer don't buy those stripped down car. Bring back those 14/15 inch tire sedans. Accord and Camry don't need 18/19 inch sport tires.
@@chenyansong I think people who buy those strip down used car will keep their car for long time. Also, those cars will be cheaper as well in the used market. The used car market has more price sensitive buyers. I like to buy cheap and sell cheap.
@@funkonsight Well I was trying to compare apples to apples, wheelbase to wheelbase. The Altima and Malibu were similar in size and both classified as mid-sized. The Sentra's competition would've been the Chevy Cruze.
I remember when my mom bought a brand new Altima GXE with a spoiler in 1999. It was $19,000. That was such a solid car. She sold it 5 years later for $5,000 and it was literally like brand new still
I had a ‘99 I sold with over 238k miles and I’ve leased a ‘12 3.5SE coupe, and a 3.5SL sedan. All of them were great vehicles and had no issues with the cvt during my time with it. Definitely going to missed! 😔
@soiceyboy33 plenty of drivers outside of fleets and rentals drive these cars and love them. I have an Altima and I can't imagine ever getting rid of it, even when I eventually have to buy another vehicle.
@@texan903Altima is a piece of shii. My friend just bought a 2022 Altima, and already had to replace the alternator, and a sensor. I've been driving my 01 Camry for 7 years, and all I've replaced was wheel bearing, and it has 400 thousand miles on the same engine and transmission. Those cars are sad.
I like the body style of the Versa a lot! But that CVT though....I get that Honda and Nissan source JATCO trannies. But I ask myself,if I had the same priced car between a Sedan vs Hatchback. I'm going to choose Hatchback for utility.
@@TheV8Pumpkin because Nissan sells most of their Altima’s to fleet customers, who only keep them for a year then dump them into use car market which then depreciates the new ones because the rentals are typically low mileage and less than 2 years old.
I really hate SUV's and crossovers. The second a turn comes up on the Highway all these jank ass SUV's wanna slow down to 40 mph. SUV's handle like shit, i hate the direction of the american car market.
SUVs and Trucks Destroyed the sedan market. They make it so F@cking Miserable to drive a car. In the 80's you could drive down the road and see for a block or two. You could see though other sedans and see who's braking and why 100 feet ahead of you. Now for sedan drivers our only vision is the SUV's brake lights in front of us. You can't see shIt you have to figure out quickly whether the SUV/Truck is braking softly, medium, or Hard in a spilt second it's like driving with a big wall in front of you all the time. Oh, and to make a right-hand turn in a sedan with SUVs and trucks next to you (your left side) THEY ARE ALWAYS PULLED UP OVER the line blocking you from seeing oncoming traffic they're not a sedan so you can't see over their hood they're twice as high. This have Forced most sedan drivers to abandon the car for a SUVs or Trucks to get up higher to see. Just Sucks.... I swear this is the reason why sedan are dying because you're a lot more stress driving them.
I m sick of all these lookalike Suv's....hidious, too much is too much. Glad Toyota and Lexus still have sedans as well as Mercedes, Audi, Bmw.....Hyundai and Kia.
Well they way its going they will not have sedans either. All manufacturers are copying each other. It started with FORD then GM. Then VW killed the Pass at and Arteon they only have the Jetta. Now Nissan is doing the same thing
@@bh2155 I don't think so. For example, Toyota sells still A segment Aygo in Europe, used to be a colaboration with Stellantis. Stellantis was not keen on a new A segment car, also VW left this segment... not so Toyota, tgey came up with a new small car, even below the Yaris, and it sells very well in Europe, and very good quality as well. The Camry, Lexus ES, IS, they sell worldwide 400k sedans? Maybe even more...... the same for Hyundai and Kia, all the premium brands. Gm and Ford have left Europe or will leave Europe due to complete mismanagement....only focus on simple Suv's and abandoned household nanes and cars like the Escort, Focus, Fiesta, Mondeo, Granada, Scorpio and ' gave' marketshare to Toyota and the Koreans.....same happened with GM/Opel brand in Europe. Ford sells redesigned VW'S now in Europe, all hidious Suv's.....same for Opel, now a subbrand within Stellantis, 100% French origions...
Stellantis and Mitsubishi are first but every other automaker has killed a hatchback, 4 door coupe or sedan over the last couple of years except Alfa Romeo, Audi, BMW, Genesis, Porsche, Tesla, and Rolls Royce well Lucid and Polestar too but they just came out
@@sunshinelolipops1I’m talking about sales numbers and they aren’t as ho hum as you want to make them be. Nissan is struggling to sell cars at higher profits and it makes me wonder, why do so many people buy shitty cars like Hyundais and Kia’s when there are better built Nissans for cheaper? Yeah, you can fuss about the CVT problems that were fixed 5yrs ago, but what’s the logic behind the people who then turn around and buy more expensive Korean junk? See? Nissan is definitely slept on and it’s quite ridiculous, especially considering how good the current Nissans are.
Toyota has great foresight because they are keeping their mainstream sedans because people will soon realize that getting groceries and chugging your family around is more efficient and safe in a sedan. Toyota will be laughing in 10 years when Ford tries to bring back the Fusion and other brands try to bring back theirs sedans too.
I wouldn't say they would be laughing, they already dominated the market with the Camry, then you have to also compete with the Hyundai and Kia which have stepped up their game with sedans. Ford was fighting an uphill battle and was losing money on the Fusion. I'm sure they will bring it back in an EV form or at least do that with the Continental (which I think would be something they should do)
The base model VW Jetta for a few more grand is a much better car in most ways, especially with the manual...this is the last year for the base model and 1 trim up having the manual..after this year, only the GLI will have the manual.
Altima and Maxima were good names in the past. The unreliable CVT’s killed Nissan and times have changed, Nissan has no hybrid and both Altima and Versa are no longer in demand and can’t compete with competition. Nissan making smart moves to cut cost to survive. At least they still have Sentra and Frontier that are selling. It’s better than nothing.
They have hybrid vehicles they are not sold in America and thats because whoever the got running N. America Nissan is a dunce .. They need to remove the guy .. Furthermore the are not cutting to survive. The Versa sold much well than the Sentra and the Altima never left the top 3 best selling vehicles for Nissan
@@jordanimatedstreaming my parents have the 2023 Pathfinder Platinum V6 and it’s pretty amazing. I was a little annoyed that they didn’t check with me first because I’m a CR ratings guy but it is actually very nice.
Yeah the VQ and all of it's decedents are pretty good for the price. They solved a lot of the oiling and cooling issues of tracking the first gen engines pretty quick. Plus replacement VQs are super cheap for track cars. Like most Nissan engines they do need an oil pump gear upgrade for sustained track duty, which is a quick weekend fix and the water pump, timing chain, guides, and tensioner can be changed at the same time for peace of mind. Doing the "Pathfinder mode" really helps with keeping temps in check also.
The Nissan Altima was a great handling,riding car but but but CVT,CVT,CVT is the down fall of Altima. My family has had 6 different Altimas and everyone of them the transmission went out on them. I now have a Sentra with 68,000 miles on it and the CVT transmission has went out on it .
U.S. car buyers go through phases. In the 1960s it was muscle cars. In the seventies, and it was really BLOATED sedans. The eighties were cursed with really sensible cars, the nineties, gave us "mini' vans, the 2000s were when the fascination with 4X4s started, and here we are. Being sensible, rational, and responsible, my latest auto purchase is a Toyota Corolla. Reliable, responsible, dependable and fun to drive as well. I'd almost forgotten what driving a "fun" car was like.
Y’all people need to stop buying crossovers, suvs, pickup trucks, especially when you don’t NEED the utility and just buy a SEDAN which is plenty of vehicle for the average person
Backwards American logic at its finest. Shit, where I live in PA, people have diesel pickup trucks with big ass smoke stacks just bellowing out black smoke.
The fact that they want you to buy the batteries for these cars and instead of just having charging stations that swap out the batteries tells you a lot about the battery life.
Altima i thought was meh until i rented one by mistake. Last year, i drove one with a girl on a trip into the mountains. It was nimble, secure on the road, no sway, comfortable, solid. I was impressed at its simplicity and adherence to car enthusiast thoughts. It also was lower height than other inexpensive sedans. Cool. This is sad. My other cars: 2023 Porsche 718T and 2019 mx-5 RF Club
The only thing "behind" was that CVT transmission and the lack of a hybrid offering as discussed in the video. Nothing about Camrys or Accords put them above Altimas and Maximas besides a more reliable transmission and hence better resale value.
You are correct, this is crazy. People still want and/or need sedans. Speaking of the Altima, I have driven several and my brother even has one. They are pretty expensive but not like a huge suv.. Altima is a good handling, adequately powered and safe vehicle. And if you don't drive like an Andretti, you actually can get some hi 30's mpg on the highway. Such a shame!!
Not the Altima! I owned 5 Toyota Camrys and they were all great cars! I now own my 2nd Altima, an SV all wheel drive model and have zero problems with the car! The 2022 Altima gets me an average of 40 MPGs! That’s just great, NOT! I don’t want a hybrid-only Camry. So I will have to think on this one for a while! Thank you Kirk! I always trust your opinion and thoughts! Mark in Iowa.
Altima, especially older ones, are so underrated. Yes they're kinda behind the competition techwise, but you can abuse it like crazy and it'll still run. Just make sure it doesn't start rusting.
Because all the Altima’s you see on the road are or use to be rental cars. Because of that Nissan dealers have trouble selling new Altimas because there are so many low mileage used ones everywhere.
Back in the day I loved the maxima when it came out. It definitely could compete w/the Toyota Camry back then. BUT then they paired the V6 w/a CVT transmission. That was the beginning of the end of the MAX.
Jeezus Christ. Cars (traditional sedans/hatchbacks) are done after 2025. No more manual transmission either, I'm sure. The absolute end of sub $20k vehicles. Cheapest new car will soon be the Chevy Trax at nearly $25K. The US market is going to be nothing but bland SUVs and trucks, and then maybe the Toyota Camry, if that even survives another few years before it gets canceled or gets turned into a crossover.
The 3rd -Gen Altima, when it got the 3.5 V6, was when the Altima took off, passing 200k in sales for the first time, with the 5th-gen peaking at 335k in 2014. They did have some impressive ad campaigns, when it first came out in 1992, but it also was Busted AF in 1992
Exactly 10 year ago today, 07 14 2014, I did drive the rental 2014 Altima from LA to San Francisco by myself, only use half tank in 400miles. 👏🏻👏🏻2014 new car, no hybrid at all😮😮 it was such amazing sedan 😔😔😔😔and now we will say RIP 😢🥺🥺
While the Versa has seen a surge in sales, they’re still too low for Nissan to make a healthy profit. Unfortunately the mid car segment will only be Toyota and Honda in a few years. The Sonata and K5 sales are also half of what they use to be and will probably be discontinued of this generation comes to an end.
Ill be the first to say this. I have a 2017 Nissan Sentra SV and bought it new with 27 miles on it for 22,007 dollars before destination and tax. I still have it and its almost 8 years old. The interior is still in excellent shape. My Sentra has a sunroof with the 2-ton black/tan interior with the blue paint on the outside. I love the car. I currently have 130,000 miles on it with the only issue atm is replacing the ac compressor. I will also need to get some front end suspension work done on it but overall the car runs great. If I drive conservatively I can get close to 46 mpg. I think its great car and yes the cvt is not perfect. It is slow off the line and not the most smooth transmission but I have not had any problems with it so far.
KK, the Sentra is actually a good "middle ground" sedan. The last two generations have grown substantially. Compare a new Sentra in size vs. the original Altima.
All the Car Companies are trying to to destroy the driving experience by trying to make cars etc more like appliances! It is just a matter of time when all cars will be like electric Crossover Vehicles where the owner cannot even drive it!
Man, I learned to drive on a ‘98 Altima. I just replaced it with a ‘23 Civic Si this time last year. 200 something thousand miles before its engine gave out and it was still cheap to have a local mechanic swap in a 60k mile unit.
Hey Kirk. The reason why Nissan is discontinuing the Altima and Versa is due to the future demand of the US market, along with US regulations, which will discontinue vehicles that no longer meet US regulations.
Im not buying new cars anymore. Ive already come to the conclusion I'm gonna buy what good cars I've always wanted but could not afford new. The NEW stuff is trash by and large. Case in point instead of buying a flagship ill buy a 06 LS460 and completely renovate it with new equipment Toyota is fantastic at supporting their old stuff. I can buy new steering wheels new seats, new what ever. Try doing that with a 5 year old Nissan or Infiniti product. Good luck.
Yea the new cars are beginning to not be worth buying brand new off dealership showroom like it was in the 90s better to collect all the childhood favorites like Lexus, mustang GT,trans am, Corvette and Nissan 300zx and keep them detailed. No you can't do certain stuff with the Nissan like you can the Toyota Lexus but you still can restore old Maxima and Altima find older ones and repaint them and upgrade door speakers and install aftermarket high quality indash stereo radio but I see your point nothing like restoring updating a older Lexus
I’m sure the Big Altima Energy is gonna still live on to the rest of the Nissan Infiniti products lol. Even some sedans that currently lives on will have the same energy. Like Camry and accord
I'd say every subcompact crossover is simply a hatchback with a lift kit. Just a couple weeks ago I saw a heavily modified Mazda CX-30 with the plastic cladding painted body color...and more importantly on lowering springs. I looked at it and said to myself "now this is always what it should have been". But of course Mazda themselves will never do such a thing, or at least not while the Mazda 3 still exists.
Small crossovers are basically hatchbacks on heels. But hey, if Honda can sell an HR-V for $5k more than they do for a Fit, for essentially the same car and cost, why not? Not to mention the weird perception in the US that small cars can’t be as good as huge vehicles. It’s the death spiral of traditional cars.
The Altima is such an iconic car, and sales are still strong for both sedans being discontinued. Not making an electrified Altima I feel is a missed opportunity. Nissan is behind in electrification and they need to act soon to keep up with the competition and change of market
All the Altima’s on the road are rental fleet cars or purchased dirt cheap when it’s used. Majority of the drivers are reckless driving baby mommas either damage body panels or young drivers who got them cheap
The old gen altimas pre-cvt were decent. My mom owned a 2002 Altima and ran for hundreds of thousands of miles. I owned a 2014 for a year, and it was the worst car I ever owned.
I'm not going to lie...I can see the Honda Accord getting discontinued after this generation, especially with the Civic Hybrid coming out; just because people have been dragging that new design.
I currently own a 2018 Nissan Maxima Platinum and my wife owns a fully loaded 2013 Altima SL 4 cylinder and both cars have served us very well over the years. What a shame that Nissan did a way with the Maxima last year and now the Altima at the end of next year. Truly a shame, both are good cars.
My first car was a '99 Altima, and I loved that car. 42 and still a sadan/lift back/fast back lover. It's getting harder to find something that is sporty, fast, fun to drive, and not an SUV or a crossover.
Just got my first car, a red 2019 Chevy Impala, one of the top overall sedans, its a shame they dont make them anymore, but lets hope they come back in the near future
Well this is where everything is going because people don't have the ability to think for themselves and like to copy others and buy only SUVs and crossovers.
I had a 1999 Nissan Sentra GXE. It was a great vehicle. Had a 2000 Nissan Altima GXE and it was a great vehicle as well. Had a 1980 Datsun 210 when I was in high school. I went on a trip back in December 2023 and rented a 2023 Nissan Altima SV for a week. It was pretty good.
In my country the only sedans that are selling are the cheapest cars available. They sell because they're cheap. At those prices no crossovers are available. And only Toyota and Mitsubishi are able to have some success selling cheap sedans. Nissan, Hyundai, Honda and even Chinese brands aren't having much success. Everyone wants crossovers now.
In 2015, I bought a brand new 2014 Nissan Sentra off my local lot. It hadn't sold because it was a MT. I paid 15,900 for it after taxes. Personally, I am glad I bought the MT because I was automatically exempt from the terrible transmission issues that the Sentra's CVT transmissions from that particular era had. My Sentra didn't come without its issues though. The sensor on the passenger seat for the airbags were screwed. The airbags were on all the time. I did take it to Nissan because it was recalled for that. I don't think it worked. Also, all 4 of my window switches quit working. I didn't drive my car that much so it was absolutely ridiculous that none of my windows would roll down after 3 years of ownership. Nissan wanted 400+ bucks per window switch to fix them. I pulled them from another Sentra in the junkyard and installed them myself. In 2020, when I nearly had the car paid off, a tow truck made an illegal u turn while I was on his left and totaled my car. I was paid out 9800 bucks for it, because I only had 18k miles on it at the time of the crash. Honestly, I was glad to be rid of the car after. I was going to sign the title over to my dad who co-signed with me on it and go buy a Toyota. I thought Nissans were nice cars until I had that Sentra. Such a shame.
B17 Sentra owner here. Mine's a 2014, six-speed, base model. Had it for three years and been trouble free for the most part. Just need to figure out what caused my fuel economy to tank recently. I once got up to 315 miles per tank, but now getting about 280.
I’m a employee of the largest rental company in the country and we have thousands of Altimas and Sentras in our fleet and people love them because of their phenomenal fuel economy and comfortable ride, after working for my company several years I bought a brand new 2019 Altima SV and it’s been one of the best cars I’ve ever owned. I’m averaging 37.3 miles per gallon and have driven as far as 590 miles on one tank of gas from Little Rock Arkansas to Atlanta Georgia. The transmission hasn’t given me any problems because I serviced it near 45,000 miles and changed the fluid. A CVT Is not meant for drag racing it’s made for fuel economy
Conspiracy theory: They are canceling the Altima because of the reputation/meme. We have them at my work, they are much faster than the Camry or Accord.
I remember when the Nissan Sentra debuted here in the US in 1982, and originally it was the Datsun Nissan Sentra and then by 1984 the Datsun name was gone and it was just Nissan. The Nissan Altima debuted in 1993 to replace the Nissan Stanza which I grew up in the 80s, I remember the Stanza. I always loved the Altima from 2005 til now.
1. Manufacturers should stop bloating up all the cars. I am about to upgrade to a Camry/Accord/Altima until I found out they have grown beyond the size of my parking spot. And Corolla/Civic/Sentra have increased size and weight without increasing thrust. AWD, and higher class NVH.
market is moving towards efficiency, not hard to imagine when the whole car industry ends up having only one or two makers and only a handful of models for the entire world.
The US car market is horrible. Insanely boring & lacking diversity
and lets talk about the lack of colors too
@@Casual008"iron grey, gunmetal grey, ice white and obsidian black, these are the stunning colors we offer" - Every manufacturer.
@@Casual008 Can Mazda please please please drop their blue that is over 30 years old. How hard is it? Nissan Sentra has a great blue IMHO.
Part of it, I attribute to how North America and Australia view cars as opposed to Asia and Europe. For North America and Australia, a car is a necessity for the majority in sprawled out cities and people buy cars based on what they need for everyday use. For the rest, a car is a luxury/ toy and people buy them based on what they want to feel/experience and afford.
Yeah. Kind of reminds me of the late 90s and very early 2000s.
Car buyers: “Price is too high, we want affordable options”
Also Car buyers: “i drive a fully loaded CUV/SUV”.
It's like people have to keep appearances up. "My budget only allows a compact sedan for $30k? No let me get this crossover, full size with all amenities. I'll just cut down elsewhere and everyone will love me in it"
marketing is powerful. Reminds me off Supersize fries. Manufacturers make double profits raising a vehicle a few inches.
Exactly. So many idiots out there are creating problems for the rest of us. It's sickening.
Fat Americans*
😂😂😂 Yeah…..however they are two different buyers!
Kirk, Some of your subscribers may be too young to remember when Nissan made cars that were very competitive with Toyota and Honda. Nissan has nobody to blame but themselves (Renault) for the decades of mediocrity which have resulted in today's predicament. 🤨
You’re absolutely right 👍🏾 as a former Nissan 1985 200SX coupe 1988 Maxima and a 1990 300ZX they used to be a wonderful company.
When Nissan came out with their Van in 2006 that thing had some many problems and Nissan never pivot from the run, they never fixed any of the problems.
I miss Nissans of pre 2k.
Renault ruined Nissan.
Actually, when both Nissan and Toyota first started selling in Barbados over 55 ~ 60 years, Nissan had the slightly better reputation, at least engine wise between the two.
Im satisfied with my Altima 21 years of ownership and 502k miles. it still goes down the road on original motor and 4 speed Auto!
500k Jesus Christ
@@bruck6675 Lots of VQ Maximas hit 500k too. Those engines and the 4-speed autos were indestructible.
You must've maintained that vehicle very well.
I work with Altima’s all the time. They’re comfy and very practical. So sick of the crossover and truck craze 🙄
sedans are the same exact size of an suv. The only difference is the ground clearance
@@slumy8195 MPG is different. Handling is different. Visibility is different.
@@slumy8195the seat height and ease of getting in and out are the reasons why suv or cuv are doing better. I too like cars but I prefer to sit in a full size truck or suv.
Since 2019, I've had a 2018 Altima. I was not in the market for a car when I bought mine, plus I had mixed opinions on the CVT, but pulled the trigger and took my chances. Aside from routine maintenance, the Altima has not spent a single night in the service department. Mine is the Deep Blue Pearl SR, which illuminates in the sun or after washed. I've gone on countless road trips in it, and not only is it a competent, capable highway cruiser, it is very comfortable and handles well. Not to mention how efficient it is, I rarely fill up despite driving five to seven days a week.
All in all, I think the Altima is a highly underrated, unappreciated value in today's car market where every truck and crossover uses similar design language that lacks uniqueness.
Nissan is undecided on another generation of Altima, but I think they should give it another chance by introducing the proposed hybrids, especially considering that Nissan still sells a decent amount of these cars annually despite the overall decline in popularity of sedans.
@@slumy8195 Completely wrong. The bigger the SUV the taller it is, it's more upright, heavier, worse gas mileage, handle like shit, look generic. It's a glorified soccer mom minivan that people drive thinking it's cool. It's not. Governments need to start banning these boring appliances.
Not all of us want an SUV.🙄
I know right
Only the Germans understand this . I gave up on Asia and America a decade ago.
We still have the maximima and sentra
@@cleon5766 maxima got canceled last year
@@cleon5766maxima was discontinued a while ago
I’m so fucking sick of this shit. As a 22 year old. There is nothing affordable right now and they are discontinuing everything to cater to older people who want these underpowered crossovers and SUVs man… Just because people want more crossovers doesn’t mean FLOOD the market with them. It’s annoying and stupid because sedans STILL have buyers as long as you make them right!
Exactly no young guys want to buy crossovers just because old people are buying them. It's sad we losing performance sedans in this country Lancer Evo, Chevy SS sedan, Altima SE-R, Ford Taurus SHO, V6 trim level Toyota Camry is now removed and only available in 4 cylinder for 2025 and Honda Accord removed turbo engine option so yea we not left with many fun sedans no more they discontinuing everything and replacing it with retirement age group vehicles
Many cars are heavily discounted via lease deals (which you can generally buy out and keep those heavy discounts). I'm just letting you know in case if you are looking
The US government tricked its people into buying these vehicles for "safety" and "family" reasons. "Get an SUV because the gas mileage is the same as regular cars and you get extra room for your kids and stuff and you sit higher off the ground and blah, blah, blah." The average American thinks the same way and fell for the okie doke. This country is just full of sheep. Everyone isn't a family man. Everyone doesn't want a vehicle with a high center of gravity. And they all look the same. I laugh at the sheep when I'm driving thru a parking lot and all these damn SUV's are lined up looking like a real car lot. Everybody has to hit the panic button in the parking lots because they can't find their SUV in the sea of them. I see more SUV's on the side of the road during the winter because those sheep who fell for it still don't maintain the vehicle and think because I have AWD or 4WD, I'm invincible. I'm not going to be a sheep so it's cars for me till my heart stops beating.
@@tjhouston1280 young man. I feel your pain. But it's not because everybody wants SUVs nowadays. Is the cafe laws for emissions that persuade car companies to make three row vehicles, as they do not fall under the same emission regulations as a four-door sedan or a coupe. Myself I like a big high performance 4-door, not necessarily an SUV. But I tell you since everyone is driving SUVs now I feel like I need to get one too. Why you may ask ..? For privacy. Everyone in these SUVs is looking at me in my car. I think psychologically they feel like they can run on my bumper and zoom around me only because of the advantage that they have been able to see everything I'm doing in my car. Super large SUVs command a different level of response / respect when people can't see who and what you're doing they seem to behave different I think. It's a freaking shame. As a matter of fact I got to tell you people didn't used to drive like this on the road either. Everyone was in such a big rush....to get to the store.... For the freaking drive-thru at McDonald's. I hope you can find you a really nice coupe or a four-door sedan but that will please you somehow someday. I've been looking at those old Acura Legends lately. Find a way to bolt on a supercharger and get it up to 300 horsepower. Some of those big old sedans even come with a 5-speed manual. Blessings to you young man. 🤟❤️💪
At least the Sentra is still available
The Versa is a true loss, removing affordability from a lot of car buyers!
I remember when the Altima was called the Stanza.
😂😂😂 Same here. I loved the 1990 Stanzas. With the motorized seat belts.
had a 93 stanza as a first car
And it was the Datsun 510 before it was the Stanza.
@@danmarjenka6361 Right
Yep me to
I absolutely cannot stand crossovers.
Some crossover is not much different from hatchback. My Nissan leaf, which is 155cm tall, classified as hatchback, Lexus UX is 153cm tall yet classified as crossover SUV.
Crossover/ SUV (Small Utility Vehicle)
America want Crossover, that's y many USA didn't buy sedan anymore. Manufacturers also followed this trend 📈 other markets.
i live in Asia sedan 👍 with spare 🛞. But after 2020 every Japan vehicle sell here brand new SUV Crossover especially Toyota Corolla Cross, CHR/ Honda WRV, HRV without spare 🛞. Now 2024 for Japan car's didn't have spare 🛞, even the based model corolla/yaris/camry doesn't have spare 🛞.
It's bcause trend 📈 manufacturers followed others Europe & Western. Now we as human pay the price with high price vehicles.
@@Idesdst1914-qm8bu it is not just US, the entire world is moving toward cross over. By the way I think getting rid of spare tire is a good move
I can't stand people that drive them
@chenyansong you might feel differently if your tire blows out and you're stuck on the side of a road with a can of fix a flat
The Altima is one of the best looking and affordable car in America.
Which is exactly why they want to kill it! They're realizing that a lot of americans are willing to spend more money on SUV's and they want to sell what makes them more money!
When the CVT shіts itself, you'll know it wasn't actually affordable
Just came back from UK, gas price there is about $6.50 a gallon. There are still so many tiny car like Yaris, Fit, and Fiesta. UK is still selling new car with roll down window and manual transmission. I am sure no one will buy these kind of car in US. We can blame the car company, but at the end of the day consumer don't buy those stripped down car. Bring back those 14/15 inch tire sedans. Accord and Camry don't need 18/19 inch sport tires.
@@imanwan2861 but they sure make the car look nicer!
@@lilanthny Yeah, what I'm say is when people buy it used, they still need to pay the high operating cost for tires and other nice features.
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You can blame a more robust used car market is US. in US those striped down cars cannot compete with used cars.
@@chenyansong I think people who buy those strip down used car will keep their car for long time. Also, those cars will be cheaper as well in the used market. The used car market has more price sensitive buyers. I like to buy cheap and sell cheap.
I always thought the Altima was the Japanese Malibu, cheap to buy, catered to the first time sedan buyer, decent amenities and fairly reliable.
That would be a versa or a Sentra
@@funkonsight Well I was trying to compare apples to apples, wheelbase to wheelbase. The Altima and Malibu were similar in size and both classified as mid-sized. The Sentra's competition would've been the Chevy Cruze.
What the difference?
@@Big.W. Between the Sentra and Altima?
The Japanese Malibu is the Sentra...the Altima is a bigger car
I had a 97 Altima. Thing ran like a top even after I sold it. 250k miles plus. Bulletproof car with that KA24 engine
I remember when my mom bought a brand new Altima GXE with a spoiler in 1999. It was $19,000. That was such a solid car. She sold it 5 years later for $5,000 and it was literally like brand new still
I had a ‘99 I sold with over 238k miles and I’ve leased a ‘12 3.5SE coupe, and a 3.5SL sedan. All of them were great vehicles and had no issues with the cvt during my time with it. Definitely going to missed! 😔
Yours had a proper non CVT transmission.
@@ratshackmojoeven with the CVT application, they can last if maintained and driven like a reasonable adult.
@@texan903 Problem is that it still drives like ass.
Car salesman, 2028: "Hi there! What size gray SUV would you like?" 😂😂
I see Altima’s and Sentra’s everywhere. Too bad.
Yeah, because they’re mainly rentals !
@@soiceyboy33Lol nice try not really 😂
@soiceyboy33 plenty of drivers outside of fleets and rentals drive these cars and love them. I have an Altima and I can't imagine ever getting rid of it, even when I eventually have to buy another vehicle.
@@texan903Altima is a piece of shii. My friend just bought a 2022 Altima, and already had to replace the alternator, and a sensor. I've been driving my 01 Camry for 7 years, and all I've replaced was wheel bearing, and it has 400 thousand miles on the same engine and transmission. Those cars are sad.
@@JunkerDriver999 That's too bad. My 2018 is going strong. No problems whatsoever. Love it!
I'd like the Versa to stick around. It's the last affordable car. I LIKE small cars and don't want anything larger. Sad.
I like the body style of the Versa a lot! But that CVT though....I get that Honda and Nissan source JATCO trannies. But I ask myself,if I had the same priced car between a Sedan vs Hatchback. I'm going to choose Hatchback for utility.
The Kicks is a smidge larger than a Versa and even has the same engine. That’s your choice if you’re looking to stay in something small
isnt it the cheapest brand new car you can buy today?
@@novoice9286 yes it is. I see brand new Versa SE start around $18k
@@terrancecloverfield6791base versas [ atleast in the USA ] start at $16k
Versa I understand but altima 🤔 that is such a popular first new car option
My first car was an Altima Coupe .. I still do have it up to this day
@@TheV8Pumpkin because Nissan sells most of their Altima’s to fleet customers, who only keep them for a year then dump them into use car market which then depreciates the new ones because the rentals are typically low mileage and less than 2 years old.
And they're everywhere. I don't understand the logic...
I'd say the versa should be the popular first car , the Altima can get pricey optioned out
With the price point in the 30k+ range, people rather buy a Sentra as a first car options which is in that 21-28k pocket
I really hate SUV's and crossovers. The second a turn comes up on the Highway all these jank ass SUV's wanna slow down to 40 mph.
SUV's handle like shit, i hate the direction of the american car market.
SUVs and Trucks Destroyed the sedan market. They make it so F@cking Miserable to drive a car. In the 80's you could drive down the road and see for a block or two. You could see though other sedans and see who's braking and why 100 feet ahead of you. Now for sedan drivers our only vision is the SUV's brake lights in front of us. You can't see shIt you have to figure out quickly whether the SUV/Truck is braking softly, medium, or Hard in a spilt second it's like driving with a big wall in front of you all the time. Oh, and to make a right-hand turn in a sedan with SUVs and trucks next to you (your left side) THEY ARE ALWAYS PULLED UP OVER the line blocking you from seeing oncoming traffic they're not a sedan so you can't see over their hood they're twice as high. This have Forced most sedan drivers to abandon the car for a SUVs or Trucks to get up higher to see. Just Sucks.... I swear this is the reason why sedan are dying because you're a lot more stress driving them.
This says it all. I drive 2004 Mazda6; can't see over all the trucks & SUVs, or through their dark windows.
I m sick of all these lookalike Suv's....hidious, too much is too much.
Glad Toyota and Lexus still have sedans as well as Mercedes, Audi, Bmw.....Hyundai and Kia.
Well they way its going they will not have sedans either. All manufacturers are copying each other. It started with FORD then GM. Then VW killed the Pass at and Arteon they only have the Jetta. Now Nissan is doing the same thing
@@bh2155 I don't think so. For example, Toyota sells still A segment Aygo in Europe, used to be a colaboration with Stellantis. Stellantis was not keen on a new A segment car, also VW left this segment... not so Toyota, tgey came up with a new small car, even below the Yaris, and it sells very well in Europe, and very good quality as well.
The Camry, Lexus ES, IS, they sell worldwide 400k sedans? Maybe even more...... the same for Hyundai and Kia, all the premium brands.
Gm and Ford have left Europe or will leave Europe due to complete mismanagement....only focus on simple Suv's and abandoned household nanes and cars like the Escort, Focus, Fiesta, Mondeo, Granada, Scorpio and ' gave' marketshare to Toyota and the Koreans.....same happened with GM/Opel brand in Europe.
Ford sells redesigned VW'S now in Europe, all hidious Suv's.....same for Opel, now a subbrand within Stellantis, 100% French origions...
Stellantis and Mitsubishi are first but every other automaker has killed a hatchback, 4 door coupe or sedan over the last couple of years except Alfa Romeo, Audi, BMW, Genesis, Porsche, Tesla, and Rolls Royce well Lucid and Polestar too but they just came out
Cadillac has nice sedans too
Sedan markets are mostly owned by Japanese and Korean manufacturers, German manufacturers have luxury sedans but priced higher than mass market cars.
Sentra and Altima are indeed good cars. Severely underrated and under appreciated.
Versa is being killed, not the Sentra
@@sachinnair91Yes, but Sentra is also severely underrated. It’s time for a new Versa though.
Underrated? For all the problems I hear about the CVTs, and also the stale driving experience and rental car interiors, I still see them everywhere
@@sunshinelolipops1I’m talking about sales numbers and they aren’t as ho hum as you want to make them be. Nissan is struggling to sell cars at higher profits and it makes me wonder, why do so many people buy shitty cars like Hyundais and Kia’s when there are better built Nissans for cheaper? Yeah, you can fuss about the CVT problems that were fixed 5yrs ago, but what’s the logic behind the people who then turn around and buy more expensive Korean junk? See? Nissan is definitely slept on and it’s quite ridiculous, especially considering how good the current Nissans are.
Toyota has great foresight because they are keeping their mainstream sedans because people will soon realize that getting groceries and chugging your family around is more efficient and safe in a sedan. Toyota will be laughing in 10 years when Ford tries to bring back the Fusion and other brands try to bring back theirs sedans too.
I wouldn't say they would be laughing, they already dominated the market with the Camry, then you have to also compete with the Hyundai and Kia which have stepped up their game with sedans. Ford was fighting an uphill battle and was losing money on the Fusion. I'm sure they will bring it back in an EV form or at least do that with the Continental (which I think would be something they should do)
I had a rental 2022 Altima, and I loved it. The Versa is the last affordable sedan come on Nissan!
The base model VW Jetta for a few more grand is a much better car in most ways, especially with the manual...this is the last year for the base model and 1 trim up having the manual..after this year, only the GLI will have the manual.
Altima and Maxima were good names in the past. The unreliable CVT’s killed Nissan and times have changed, Nissan has no hybrid and both Altima and Versa are no longer in demand and can’t compete with competition. Nissan making smart moves to cut cost to survive. At least they still have Sentra and Frontier that are selling. It’s better than nothing.
They have hybrid vehicles they are not sold in America and thats because whoever the got running N. America Nissan is a dunce .. They need to remove the guy ..
Furthermore the are not cutting to survive. The Versa sold much well than the Sentra and the Altima never left the top 3 best selling vehicles for Nissan
I have a 2009 Pontiac G8 GT.
No way am I getting rid of it. Tired of the crossover crap
When sedans go away, what happens when there are only SUVs and trucks on the road?
The German sedans will remain for a while. Also consider the sedans offered by Lucid and Tesla.
@@ernielawnot everyone wants a stupid fucking electric shitbox
Crazy to live through this entire era. Growing up most of the people I know and cars I saw were sedans. Now it’s mostly suvs, cuvs, and trucks.
these days I say buy Nissan to get their V6 or don't buy one at all
@@jordanimatedstreaming my parents have the 2023 Pathfinder Platinum V6 and it’s pretty amazing. I was a little annoyed that they didn’t check with me first because I’m a CR ratings guy but it is actually very nice.
@@lilanthnyCR is worthless
@@user-qc7dr3cd3q I respectfully disagree but that’s okay. 👍🏼
@@lilanthnycr is worthless
Yeah the VQ and all of it's decedents are pretty good for the price. They solved a lot of the oiling and cooling issues of tracking the first gen engines pretty quick. Plus replacement VQs are super cheap for track cars. Like most Nissan engines they do need an oil pump gear upgrade for sustained track duty, which is a quick weekend fix and the water pump, timing chain, guides, and tensioner can be changed at the same time for peace of mind. Doing the "Pathfinder mode" really helps with keeping temps in check also.
The Nissan Altima was a great handling,riding car but but but CVT,CVT,CVT is the down fall of Altima. My family has had 6 different Altimas and everyone of them the transmission went out on them. I now have a Sentra with 68,000 miles on it and the CVT transmission has went out on it .
Canada has a manual for the Sentra, maybe converting it might be worth it
U.S. car buyers go through phases. In the 1960s it was muscle cars. In the seventies, and it was really BLOATED sedans. The eighties were cursed with really sensible cars, the nineties, gave us "mini' vans, the 2000s were when the fascination with 4X4s started, and here we are. Being sensible, rational, and responsible, my latest auto purchase is a Toyota Corolla. Reliable, responsible, dependable and fun to drive as well. I'd almost forgotten what driving a "fun" car was like.
As a car guy, this saddens me. Very few people really need a SUV/crossover.
Very disappointing that Nissan killed off those cars, but not their POS CVT transmission
Y’all people need to stop buying crossovers, suvs, pickup trucks, especially when you don’t NEED the utility and just buy a SEDAN which is plenty of vehicle for the average person
So i see the best way to reduce emissions is to not sell cars and buy huge suvs and monster trucks. 🤔
Backwards American logic at its finest. Shit, where I live in PA, people have diesel pickup trucks with big ass smoke stacks just bellowing out black smoke.
The fact that they want you to buy the batteries for these cars and instead of just having charging stations that swap out the batteries tells you a lot about the battery life.
Altima i thought was meh until i rented one by mistake. Last year, i drove one with a girl on a trip into the mountains. It was nimble, secure on the road, no sway, comfortable, solid. I was impressed at its simplicity and adherence to car enthusiast thoughts. It also was lower height than other inexpensive sedans. Cool. This is sad.
My other cars: 2023 Porsche 718T and 2019 mx-5 RF Club
thats a sick garage man
@@ExonTwins thanks :)
Let’s be honest, we kind of saw this one coming. The Altima was way behind the competition, even though that segment is already sparse.
The only thing "behind" was that CVT transmission and the lack of a hybrid offering as discussed in the video. Nothing about Camrys or Accords put them above Altimas and Maximas besides a more reliable transmission and hence better resale value.
US weird EPA requirements are ruining cars and destroying reliability while making them much more expensive.
I don’t want to turn this into politics but the lefts are the reason this is happening due to regulations.
And here I was just feeling like people were getting back into cars (rather than suv or xuv)
You are correct, this is crazy. People still want and/or need sedans. Speaking of the Altima, I have driven several and my brother even has one. They are pretty expensive but not like a huge suv.. Altima is a good handling, adequately powered and safe vehicle. And if you don't drive like an Andretti, you actually can get some hi 30's mpg on the highway. Such a shame!!
Not the Altima! I owned 5 Toyota Camrys and they were all great cars! I now own my 2nd Altima, an SV all wheel drive model and have zero problems with the car! The 2022 Altima gets me an average of 40 MPGs! That’s just great, NOT! I don’t want a hybrid-only Camry. So I will have to think on this one for a while! Thank you Kirk! I always trust your opinion and thoughts! Mark in Iowa.
Hybrids engines when they age are expensive to fix.
@@lactusgalacto1174 The engine and electric motors are solid. The battery might need to be regenerated at 15 years
Altima, especially older ones, are so underrated. Yes they're kinda behind the competition techwise, but you can abuse it like crazy and it'll still run. Just make sure it doesn't start rusting.
Not as successful? I see far more Ultimas than I see Accords. While I wouldn't buy one, we do need quality affordable cars.
Because all the Altima’s you see on the road are or use to be rental cars. Because of that Nissan dealers have trouble selling new Altimas because there are so many low mileage used ones everywhere.
Because people are buying them dirt cheap used especially the older gens and a lot go to rental fleets
Depends on the area. I see more Accords.
Accord has always outsold Altimas. It must be your area because I see about as many but just a few less Altimas.
Rental cars and Ubers. 😂
Altima sells well too the rental lots
True
Yeah, but that hurts resale value in the secondary market
Back in the day I loved the maxima when it came out. It definitely could compete w/the Toyota Camry back then. BUT then they paired the V6 w/a CVT transmission. That was the beginning of the end of the MAX.
I’m actually kind of surprised Nissan is getting rid of the Versa because it’s the most popular car in its class
It’s kind of the most popular car in its class because it’s the last in its class.
@@BayAreaRushHour it’s been that way for like 15 years
This SUV/EV vehicles only addiction is madness...
Jeezus Christ. Cars (traditional sedans/hatchbacks) are done after 2025. No more manual transmission either, I'm sure. The absolute end of sub $20k vehicles. Cheapest new car will soon be the Chevy Trax at nearly $25K. The US market is going to be nothing but bland SUVs and trucks, and then maybe the Toyota Camry, if that even survives another few years before it gets canceled or gets turned into a crossover.
But.... Altimas are the cars with bumpers being held on with duck tape and going down the road 90mph weaving in and out of traffic.
yea old altimas 😂
Yea older altimas🤣💀. The newer ones and even a lot of old ones run just fine.
I see older Camrys like that all the time. This joke is sold old and tired.
One of my friends just bought a 2018 Versa....I told her to get one with a manual, but she wouldn't 😅 I drive a manual Sentra, 1998 model
The 3rd -Gen Altima, when it got the 3.5 V6, was when the Altima took off, passing 200k in sales for the first time, with the 5th-gen peaking at 335k in 2014. They did have some impressive ad campaigns, when it first came out in 1992, but it also was Busted AF in 1992
Still own a 2012 Maxima here in AU. Solid car.
Exactly 10 year ago today, 07 14 2014, I did drive the rental 2014 Altima from LA to San Francisco by myself, only use half tank in 400miles.
👏🏻👏🏻2014 new car, no hybrid at all😮😮 it was such amazing sedan 😔😔😔😔and now we will say RIP 😢🥺🥺
Sad to see another car gone. Just few days ago Audi discontinued the Audi A5/S5 coupe and convertible. They are also getting rid of Audi A4
The A3 is dead in US too right?
While the Versa has seen a surge in sales, they’re still too low for Nissan to make a healthy profit.
Unfortunately the mid car segment will only be Toyota and Honda in a few years. The Sonata and K5 sales are also half of what they use to be and will probably be discontinued of this generation comes to an end.
Is it that the profit on sedans is lower or is it all politics and consumers
A report said the Kia is evaluating whether the K5 should get another generation in similar vane to the Altima
Ill be the first to say this. I have a 2017 Nissan Sentra SV and bought it new with 27 miles on it for 22,007 dollars before destination and tax. I still have it and its almost 8 years old. The interior is still in excellent shape. My Sentra has a sunroof with the 2-ton black/tan interior with the blue paint on the outside. I love the car. I currently have 130,000 miles on it with the only issue atm is replacing the ac compressor. I will also need to get some front end suspension work done on it but overall the car runs great. If I drive conservatively I can get close to 46 mpg. I think its great car and yes the cvt is not perfect. It is slow off the line and not the most smooth transmission but I have not had any problems with it so far.
A two-ton interior?! Boy, your Sentra is a heavy one! (All kidding aside, I'm sure you intended to type _"two-tone.")_
I saw the thumbnail and screamed "Nooooo!"
KK, the Sentra is actually a good "middle ground" sedan. The last two generations have grown substantially. Compare a new Sentra in size vs. the original Altima.
CVTs have a horrible reputation. Nissan refused to address the problem, whether to promote the CVT or to replace it.
All the Car Companies are trying to to destroy the driving experience by trying to make cars etc more like appliances! It is just a matter of time when all cars will be like electric Crossover Vehicles where the owner cannot even drive it!
Or the repair costs.
I really wanted to buy a versa with a 5 speed manual, hopefully I can get my hands on one!
No not the Nissan Versa 😢
I’ve always felt that crossovers have almost no aesthetic value. RIP sedans 😢
Man, I learned to drive on a ‘98 Altima. I just replaced it with a ‘23 Civic Si this time last year. 200 something thousand miles before its engine gave out and it was still cheap to have a local mechanic swap in a 60k mile unit.
Hey Kirk. The reason why Nissan is discontinuing the Altima and Versa is due to the future demand of the US market, along with US regulations, which will discontinue vehicles that no longer meet US regulations.
Im not buying new cars anymore. Ive already come to the conclusion I'm gonna buy what good cars I've always wanted but could not afford new. The NEW stuff is trash by and large. Case in point instead of buying a flagship ill buy a 06 LS460 and completely renovate it with new equipment Toyota is fantastic at supporting their old stuff. I can buy new steering wheels new seats, new what ever. Try doing that with a 5 year old Nissan or Infiniti product. Good luck.
Yea the new cars are beginning to not be worth buying brand new off dealership showroom like it was in the 90s better to collect all the childhood favorites like Lexus, mustang GT,trans am, Corvette and Nissan 300zx and keep them detailed. No you can't do certain stuff with the Nissan like you can the Toyota Lexus but you still can restore old Maxima and Altima find older ones and repaint them and upgrade door speakers and install aftermarket high quality indash stereo radio but I see your point nothing like restoring updating a older Lexus
I’m sure the Big Altima Energy is gonna still live on to the rest of the Nissan Infiniti products lol. Even some sedans that currently lives on will have the same energy. Like Camry and accord
Shoot I’ve been seeing big Altima energy in Camrys sense they rolled out the 2018-2024 body style 😭💁♂️
Crossovers and Sedans are taking over. Not everyone needs an SUV. Hatchbacks are also slowly disappearing.
And wagons are DEAD. WHAT in the world is everyone wanting nothing but SUVs? Sad times...
@@MiahV007 Lexus CT was a thing
@@MiahV007Lexus UX? It looks like a crossover, but I think it qualifies as a hatchback.
I'd say every subcompact crossover is simply a hatchback with a lift kit. Just a couple weeks ago I saw a heavily modified Mazda CX-30 with the plastic cladding painted body color...and more importantly on lowering springs. I looked at it and said to myself "now this is always what it should have been". But of course Mazda themselves will never do such a thing, or at least not while the Mazda 3 still exists.
Small crossovers are basically hatchbacks on heels. But hey, if Honda can sell an HR-V for $5k more than they do for a Fit, for essentially the same car and cost, why not? Not to mention the weird perception in the US that small cars can’t be as good as huge vehicles. It’s the death spiral of traditional cars.
The Altima is such an iconic car, and sales are still strong for both sedans being discontinued. Not making an electrified Altima I feel is a missed opportunity. Nissan is behind in electrification and they need to act soon to keep up with the competition and change of market
All the Altima’s on the road are rental fleet cars or purchased dirt cheap when it’s used. Majority of the drivers are reckless driving baby mommas either damage body panels or young drivers who got them cheap
Not every Altima. I purchased mine brand new in 2022 as a 2023 and love it and yes I still have both bumpers 😂😂
The old gen altimas pre-cvt were decent. My mom owned a 2002 Altima and ran for hundreds of thousands of miles. I owned a 2014 for a year, and it was the worst car I ever owned.
I'm not going to lie...I can see the Honda Accord getting discontinued after this generation, especially with the Civic Hybrid coming out; just because people have been dragging that new design.
I currently own a 2018 Nissan Maxima Platinum and my wife owns a fully loaded 2013 Altima SL 4 cylinder and both cars have served us very well over the years. What a shame that Nissan did a way with the Maxima last year and now the Altima at the end of next year. Truly a shame, both are good cars.
Aw. that's too bad. The CVT in my son's Rogue has been rock solid. 135K and still going.
My first car was a '99 Altima, and I loved that car. 42 and still a sadan/lift back/fast back lover. It's getting harder to find something that is sporty, fast, fun to drive, and not an SUV or a crossover.
I’m a Toyota driver, but even I see more Nissan’s than Toyota’s in my area.
Just got my first car, a red 2019 Chevy Impala, one of the top overall sedans, its a shame they dont make them anymore, but lets hope they come back in the near future
Well this is where everything is going because people don't have the ability to think for themselves and like to copy others and buy only SUVs and crossovers.
9:52 So glad is still have my Solara! I miss the competitive coupe market from the early 2000’s
I had a 1999 Nissan Sentra GXE. It was a great vehicle. Had a 2000 Nissan Altima GXE and it was a great vehicle as well. Had a 1980 Datsun 210 when I was in high school. I went on a trip back in December 2023 and rented a 2023 Nissan Altima SV for a week. It was pretty good.
They should sell the Maxima at Altima prices and they would be very competitive
In my country the only sedans that are selling are the cheapest cars available. They sell because they're cheap. At those prices no crossovers are available. And only Toyota and Mitsubishi are able to have some success selling cheap sedans. Nissan, Hyundai, Honda and even Chinese brands aren't having much success. Everyone wants crossovers now.
In 2015, I bought a brand new 2014 Nissan Sentra off my local lot. It hadn't sold because it was a MT. I paid 15,900 for it after taxes. Personally, I am glad I bought the MT because I was automatically exempt from the terrible transmission issues that the Sentra's CVT transmissions from that particular era had. My Sentra didn't come without its issues though. The sensor on the passenger seat for the airbags were screwed. The airbags were on all the time. I did take it to Nissan because it was recalled for that. I don't think it worked. Also, all 4 of my window switches quit working. I didn't drive my car that much so it was absolutely ridiculous that none of my windows would roll down after 3 years of ownership. Nissan wanted 400+ bucks per window switch to fix them. I pulled them from another Sentra in the junkyard and installed them myself. In 2020, when I nearly had the car paid off, a tow truck made an illegal u turn while I was on his left and totaled my car. I was paid out 9800 bucks for it, because I only had 18k miles on it at the time of the crash. Honestly, I was glad to be rid of the car after. I was going to sign the title over to my dad who co-signed with me on it and go buy a Toyota. I thought Nissans were nice cars until I had that Sentra. Such a shame.
B17 Sentra owner here. Mine's a 2014, six-speed, base model. Had it for three years and been trouble free for the most part. Just need to figure out what caused my fuel economy to tank recently. I once got up to 315 miles per tank, but now getting about 280.
Everything talk about Altima drivers, but most of the idiot drivers drive other brands.
& I was hoping for a redesign too 😭🤞🏽 let’s not forget they pioneered the intelligent key (push to start)
I’m a employee of the largest rental company in the country and we have thousands of Altimas and Sentras in our fleet and people love them because of their phenomenal fuel economy and comfortable ride, after working for my company several years I bought a brand new 2019 Altima SV and it’s been one of the best cars I’ve ever owned. I’m averaging 37.3 miles per gallon and have driven as far as 590 miles on one tank of gas from Little Rock Arkansas to Atlanta Georgia. The transmission hasn’t given me any problems because I serviced it near 45,000 miles and changed the fluid. A CVT Is not meant for drag racing it’s made for fuel economy
Conspiracy theory: They are canceling the Altima because of the reputation/meme. We have them at my work, they are much faster than the Camry or Accord.
I've always hated sedans, because trunks are not practical. I only drive hatchbacks, and the rear seat stays folded down at all times
Last time I was in a Sentra the seats were rock hard. This was like 2015.
I remember when the Nissan Sentra debuted here in the US in 1982, and originally it was the Datsun Nissan Sentra and then by 1984 the Datsun name was gone and it was just Nissan. The Nissan Altima debuted in 1993 to replace the Nissan Stanza which I grew up in the 80s, I remember the Stanza. I always loved the Altima from 2005 til now.
1. Manufacturers should stop bloating up all the cars. I am about to upgrade to a Camry/Accord/Altima until I found out they have grown beyond the size of my parking spot. And Corolla/Civic/Sentra have increased size and weight without increasing thrust. AWD, and higher class NVH.
i love my 2017 altima. Its sad to see nissan discontinue it. I do understand they wanted to focus on their suv and pickup lineups
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I’m a boomer, the original Altima, and Maxima were brilliant and extremely reliable, but after the French took over Nissan’s reputation took a dive.
The Versa was the last car in the US to offer a 5-speed manual. 😢 I’m tempted to go buy one before it’s gone.
I rent many vehicles. The best one I’ve ever rented was a 2024 Altima SR in NYC. I drove it all over New England for a week.
The only thing I like about Altima is the 18month lease program and the vc turbo engine that allows you to put 93 or 87
I have a 2023 Nissan Altima 2.0 SR (platinum package). Love it! Smooth and responsive.
market is moving towards efficiency, not hard to imagine when the whole car industry ends up having only one or two makers and only a handful of models for the entire world.