The primary airport for upstate SC is the Greenville-Spartanburg International Airport (GSP) which is located just off of I-85 near Greer between Greenville and Spartanburg. This airport was built jointly by the cities of Greenville and Spartanburg in the early 1960’s at the advent of jet air travel, as the older airports in both cities could not accommodate large jets. GSP was the first airport to have lighting installed in the pavement of the runway.
Thank you for the correction. I had someone else point this out to me in another comment as well. I appreciate you watching, and taking the time to correct me on my error. I'll pin your comment so future viewers can see the correction.
Visited Greenville for retirement, was too congested for me. Huntsville is on my list to check out and seems to me it looks more affordable especially if we move to the outskirts.
I'm glad to see you're checking places out before making a decision. Huntsville is very affordable compared to many areas around the country, and even moreso when you get outside the city and closest suburbs. Thanks for watching and dropping a comment. Feel free to reach out with any questions, and let me know if you decide to visit.
Some of your info on Greenville is inaccurate. The main airport GSP international is in Greer. The outskirts of Greenville. The airport that is in the city is for corporate private planes. Gville population metro wise is almost double Huntsville. In short, Gville offers more culture diversity metro vibe in a southern setting. Huntsville is a more laid back southern town with less amenities.
Thank you for correcting me about the airports. I covered the difference in population density, although not as succinctly as you did in your comment. I agree the videos are different, especially when considering the downtown area in each city. Huntsville has several smaller "city center" type areas with their own vibes.
Good points. Main advantages I see to Greenville is no income tax and (as a hockey fan) Greenville is AA vs Single A in Huntsville 😉. I really need to visit both for retirement.
Man, if you visit Huntsville during Hockey season we have to go to a game. I can't speak for the teams, but the Havoc fans are the most diehard fans of any sports team I have ever seen. They are into the game from the moment the announcer starts calling the roster to the last buzzer. It's a great experience, and relatively cheap compared to just about any other sporting event.
greenville is the center of an area called gsp, a metropolitan area of 1k and a csa 1.5, it has twice the population of hunstville, the annexation laws of south carolina make its cities look small, greenville only has 29 square meters, it offers more things.
You make a good point. If I make an updated video in the future I will do more research into the respective CSA's, and include more of that information.
No it doesn’t they don’t add Decatur Alabama for idk what reason to the metro but if they did the Huntsville-Decatur-Albertville metro area is right at a million people and Huntsville is building thousands of structures by the year. I mean 50 apartment complex’s in a year more than Atlanta and Houston in growth! Numbers don’t lie it’s tht much smaller if a city compared to those and yet literally outgrowing them on just about every category! It’s got the same land coverage within the city limits as Chicago Huntsville just isn’t as dense. The city refuses to be like Atlanta a giant metro and small city area. It’s trying to become as spread out as Nashville or Memphis. Huntsville doesn’t want to be clustered it wants to cover all the land it seems like till it can’t anymore. Also a new establishment opens every week literally if not 5. Huntsville is covering ground extremely fast and soon it’ll be to late and people will be scratching there heads wondering how it got so large. Google maps is a obvious sign or apple maps you can see how spread out it is Decatur should be added to metro and more than likely will and then it’ll jump up to a million within a year or so drastically and confuse people when it’s been that populated before the change it’s all misleading Huntsville is basically Birmingham size rn they add Alot of towns tht shouldn’t be in Birminghams metro like cullman county and cullman city for example I guarantee more people in cullman work in Huntsville area than Birmingham.
@@Spaceman88884 if we go by city population alone then charlotte and Jacksonville will be larger than Atlanta, 6000000 million metropolitan to is less than 500000 people in the city, and we all know that not the case. I live in Greenville it densely small, the county is huge population less than 600000 people. City is 75000. I been to Huntsville I see similar just more spreader out. If it was densed then I would agree. As for the 1.5 million people that is the combined metropolitan population not the statistic metro population which is 970000, Greenville. Overall both urban population areas are about the same Both midsized cities are excellent comparisons to each other.
When you speak of almost any city, I think it is better to look at the "Greeneville metro area" or "Huntsville Metro Area" population numbers instead of just the city limits. The City Limit never tells the real story of any city these days. I just googled Huntsville metro population 5I4K and Greenville metro population 928K. Also, the lakes around Greenville are Hartwell, Keowee, and Jocassee and all three are pretty large and they have bass fishing tournaments every year. That does not include three other small lakes in and around Greenville. Your comparisons sound weighted towards Huntsville.
Good video. Id disagree with housing costs. While Greenville is more expensive to buy in good areas, it has cheaper rents. Huntsville is less to buy but higher rents....only considering good areas of both.
Thanks for watching, and for the feedback. I used a variety of websites to average the rent in both cities. Of course, I'm more familiar with Huntsville, so I have more confidence in those numbers. The average rent in Greenville is $1,429 for a 962 SQ ft apartment, and in Huntsville it's $1,195 for a 943 SQ ft apartment. Either of those could be screwed by outliers though.
Greenville doesn’t have cheaper rent. Greenville’s average rent for a 1 bedroom is around $1400 and it’s rising. With BMW expanding all over the place, rents and housing prices are rising. Even in the neighboring counties such as Spartanburg, 1 bedrooms are going for $1150- $1200.
Hey MJ, good to hear from you. We just put the finishing touches on an Active Adult Community Tour video. It will be coming out this week. We don't have anything in this area like a Dell Web, but we do have a few 55+ communities. The Active Adult, Retirement and Soon to Retire community will be a big focus for me this year. I'm currently putting together a video and blog on the tax advantages of retiring in Alabama, and I will be doing another video about Active Adult communities throughout the Huntsville area. Keep an eye out this week for the new video!
@@CameronWalkerRealty Thanks. I'm not so sold on Del Web's new floor plans as they invariably put the kitchen in the living room anymore. However, I like the communities. We have three in metro Houston, and I know several couples who live in them.
@@mjpottertx You're welcome. I haven't been to one of their communities in several years. We had one nearby when I lived in Virginia, so I checked it out a few times. I have family who live in Robson Ranch in Denton which is a massive 55+ community. They have been there for a quite a while, and have enjoyed it, but they are also looking to move to the Huntsville area. Between my retired family members, and about 50% of my clients being recently retired or soon to retire, my future videos will focus more heavily on retirement living in the Huntsville area. We lack the amenity filled communities tailored to the 55+ crowd like Robson Ranch, but we're a far better fit for the truly active adult crowd that doesn't want to live within a compound. I want to get those details right, and answer the questions most people have, so feel free to let me know if there are specific topics you want to know more about. Housing costs, general cost of living for seniors, tax breaks, active adult activities, senior friendly communities, and healthcare are the broad topics that come to mind for me. I'm also working on some blogs that go into more details, and have more links so people can continue their research. I'll start referencing those blogs in future videos as well.
@@DJ-GARLAND Bigger does not mean better. Actually, Huntsville is only somewhat smaller than metro Dayton was when I grew up there in the late 60s and 70s. Huntsville would have a comfortable feel in that regard. Shopping? That's what Amazon and Home Depot are for.... And could I even get a ticket to a Preds game?
Greenville is the county and metropolitan area and the country's 40th largest CSA in South Carolina. Don't be fooled by South Carolina's annexation laws.
Hey, this is another comment I responded to the other day that I can't see my response. So, if you're seeing this for a second time I apologize. I visit Chattanooga fairly often, and I have family just outside of the city. It's one of the top 3 contenders people consider when they are looking at Huntsville. It's my next comparison, but it will be a few videos down the line.
Great question. Unfortunately, by giving my personal opinion I could be steering someone towards or away from Huntsville based on sexual orientation. Reddit is a great place to ask this question, and get responses from a wide variety of people who are not hamstrung like I am by licensing law. www.reddit.com/r/HuntsvilleAlabama/s/TZNIfLjyBP
Such an odd comparison. 300miles away from one another not to mention they’re in different states. Two different demographics. A bit strange but ok. I guess as a CZcamsr your options of ideas are almost endless when comparing one city to another from anywhere in the US lol
It's only odd because it doesn't apply to you. Greenville the number one city my Huntsville clients are also considering. Calling me a CZcamsr is a bit grandiose for getting a few hundred views on the occasional video I post. I'm a real estate broker who uses CZcams to inform people about the Huntsville market. When several people are in similar situations within a short period of time then I usually try to make a video about it. I've had several clients in the last six months who were considering both Huntsville and Greenville. I thought I spelled out the reason for the video really well. Did you watch it, or just comment from the title?
You’re probably not aware that Huntsville and Greenville are two rapidly growing cities in the South and many people are trying to decide which city fits their needs. I am the demographic for this video. Thank you, Cameron.
@@CameronWalkerRealty defies my perception? The fact that the two cities are 300 miles away and both are in completely two different demographics of the U.S? My perception is skewed by facts? “The reality of the situation defies your perception” lol! Ok Cameron…I hope you the best and your clients you pull that jedi mind trick on haha
@@Voyagephotographyplease read your own comment. It's the two different demographics part that's off. I meet with people day in and day out about moving to Huntsville, and sometimes they also consider other areas. The fact is that Greenville comes up more than any other city when potential clients are weighing their options. You, on the other hand don't meet with people day in and day out about moving to Huntsville, and despite that you keep commenting and replying based on your preconceived notion that no one would consider both cities as candidates for their move. Based on each of our backgrounds, professions, and experience who is more likely to be right in this situation? The odds so heavily favor me being correct that it should have given you some pause after I replied to your initial comment. Rather than take a critical look at the situation you make sophomoric arguments, and lob little insults along the way. First you implied that I just made the video to be a CZcamsr, and now it's your dismissive comment about mind tricks. Just admit when you are wrong and move on. You can see where I did the same in the comment section on this video. Another viewer let me know the airport in Greenville is an executive airport, and I thanked them for correcting me. I don't mind being corrected; it's how we grow and get better. However, I'm not the kind of person to just roll rover because someone on the internet disagrees with me. The time I spend on researching, recording, and editing videos only has economic value to me if my videos are informative to my, admittedly small, audience. I make my living by assisting people who move to Huntsville, not off the hundreds of views on any of my videos. Even assuming I monetized my channel (I haven't), I would probably make somewhere between $.20 and $.50 per month based on my channel's views. I have the professional experience to back my statements, and the economic incentive to make it worth my while to make those statements. You have neither.
I’ve been to both cities. Tell me how the demographics are different? I actually think they’re quite similar. Also people make plenty of videos comparing living in Houston, TX vs Atlanta, Ga or New York vs Los Angeles. New York and Los Angeles are 3000 miles apart. I’m not quite understanding your point.
The primary airport for upstate SC is the Greenville-Spartanburg International Airport (GSP) which is located just off of I-85 near Greer between Greenville and Spartanburg. This airport was built jointly by the cities of Greenville and Spartanburg in the early 1960’s at the advent of jet air travel, as the older airports in both cities could not accommodate large jets. GSP was the first airport to have lighting installed in the pavement of the runway.
Thank you for the correction. I had someone else point this out to me in another comment as well. I appreciate you watching, and taking the time to correct me on my error. I'll pin your comment so future viewers can see the correction.
Visited Greenville for retirement, was too congested for me. Huntsville is on my list to check out and seems to me it looks more affordable especially if we move to the outskirts.
I'm glad to see you're checking places out before making a decision. Huntsville is very affordable compared to many areas around the country, and even moreso when you get outside the city and closest suburbs. Thanks for watching and dropping a comment. Feel free to reach out with any questions, and let me know if you decide to visit.
Keep in mind there are unannexed areas in Greenville. Greenville metro is far larger in spite of city population bmisleading
Good comparison Cameron. I’ll still go with the Huntsville area 😀
Glad to hear it!
Some of your info on Greenville is inaccurate. The main airport GSP international is in Greer. The outskirts of Greenville. The airport that is in the city is for corporate private planes. Gville population metro wise is almost double Huntsville. In short, Gville offers more culture diversity metro vibe in a southern setting. Huntsville is a more laid back southern town with less amenities.
Thank you for correcting me about the airports. I covered the difference in population density, although not as succinctly as you did in your comment. I agree the videos are different, especially when considering the downtown area in each city. Huntsville has several smaller "city center" type areas with their own vibes.
Thanks Cameron! Huntsville is a lovely place . Never been to Greenville.
Thanks Vicki!
Good points. Main advantages I see to Greenville is no income tax and (as a hockey fan) Greenville is AA vs Single A in Huntsville 😉. I really need to visit both for retirement.
Man, if you visit Huntsville during Hockey season we have to go to a game. I can't speak for the teams, but the Havoc fans are the most diehard fans of any sports team I have ever seen. They are into the game from the moment the announcer starts calling the roster to the last buzzer. It's a great experience, and relatively cheap compared to just about any other sporting event.
@@CameronWalkerRealtySounds like when we had the Aeros in Houston. We made more noise with 6500 fans than the Rockets got with 15,000.
Since when does South Carolina not have an income tax?
@@asdgfsnadfklasjdfkasdfknla8906yeah total bs
greenville is the center of an area called gsp, a metropolitan area of 1k and a csa 1.5, it has twice the population of hunstville, the annexation laws of south carolina make its cities look small, greenville only has 29 square meters, it offers more things.
You make a good point. If I make an updated video in the future I will do more research into the respective CSA's, and include more of that information.
Agree Greenville is more densed, not scattered out. Greenville urban pop is larger
I live in Greenville
No it doesn’t they don’t add Decatur Alabama for idk what reason to the metro but if they did the Huntsville-Decatur-Albertville metro area is right at a million people and Huntsville is building thousands of structures by the year. I mean 50 apartment complex’s in a year more than Atlanta and Houston in growth! Numbers don’t lie it’s tht much smaller if a city compared to those and yet literally outgrowing them on just about every category! It’s got the same land coverage within the city limits as Chicago Huntsville just isn’t as dense. The city refuses to be like Atlanta a giant metro and small city area. It’s trying to become as spread out as Nashville or Memphis. Huntsville doesn’t want to be clustered it wants to cover all the land it seems like till it can’t anymore. Also a new establishment opens every week literally if not 5. Huntsville is covering ground extremely fast and soon it’ll be to late and people will be scratching there heads wondering how it got so large. Google maps is a obvious sign or apple maps you can see how spread out it is Decatur should be added to metro and more than likely will and then it’ll jump up to a million within a year or so drastically and confuse people when it’s been that populated before the change it’s all misleading Huntsville is basically Birmingham size rn they add Alot of towns tht shouldn’t be in Birminghams metro like cullman county and cullman city for example I guarantee more people in cullman work in Huntsville area than Birmingham.
@@Spaceman88884 if we go by city population alone then charlotte and Jacksonville will be larger than Atlanta, 6000000 million metropolitan to is less than 500000 people in the city, and we all know that not the case. I live in Greenville it densely small, the county is huge population less than 600000 people. City is 75000. I been to Huntsville I see similar just more spreader out. If it was densed then I would agree. As for the 1.5 million people that is the combined metropolitan population not the statistic metro population which is 970000, Greenville. Overall both urban population areas are about the same
Both midsized cities are excellent comparisons to each other.
When you speak of almost any city, I think it is better to look at the "Greeneville metro area" or "Huntsville Metro Area" population numbers instead of just the city limits. The City Limit never tells the real story of any city these days.
I just googled Huntsville metro population 5I4K and Greenville metro population 928K.
Also, the lakes around Greenville are Hartwell, Keowee, and Jocassee and all three are pretty large and they have bass fishing tournaments every year. That does not include three other small lakes in and around Greenville. Your comparisons sound weighted towards Huntsville.
Some great points.
Thanks! Glad you found my channel!
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Good video. Id disagree with housing costs. While Greenville is more expensive to buy in good areas, it has cheaper rents. Huntsville is less to buy but higher rents....only considering good areas of both.
Thanks for watching, and for the feedback. I used a variety of websites to average the rent in both cities. Of course, I'm more familiar with Huntsville, so I have more confidence in those numbers. The average rent in Greenville is $1,429 for a 962 SQ ft apartment, and in Huntsville it's $1,195 for a 943 SQ ft apartment. Either of those could be screwed by outliers though.
Greenville doesn’t have cheaper rent. Greenville’s average rent for a 1 bedroom is around $1400 and it’s rising. With BMW expanding all over the place, rents and housing prices are rising. Even in the neighboring counties such as Spartanburg, 1 bedrooms are going for $1150- $1200.
You didn't even touch the most important subject: where are the girls more beautiful, in Huntsville or Greenville?
Oh, what about 55+ communities, like Del Webb subdivisions?
Hey MJ, good to hear from you. We just put the finishing touches on an Active Adult Community Tour video. It will be coming out this week. We don't have anything in this area like a Dell Web, but we do have a few 55+ communities. The Active Adult, Retirement and Soon to Retire community will be a big focus for me this year. I'm currently putting together a video and blog on the tax advantages of retiring in Alabama, and I will be doing another video about Active Adult communities throughout the Huntsville area. Keep an eye out this week for the new video!
@@CameronWalkerRealty Thanks. I'm not so sold on Del Web's new floor plans as they invariably put the kitchen in the living room anymore. However, I like the communities. We have three in metro Houston, and I know several couples who live in them.
@@mjpottertx You're welcome. I haven't been to one of their communities in several years. We had one nearby when I lived in Virginia, so I checked it out a few times. I have family who live in Robson Ranch in Denton which is a massive 55+ community. They have been there for a quite a while, and have enjoyed it, but they are also looking to move to the Huntsville area. Between my retired family members, and about 50% of my clients being recently retired or soon to retire, my future videos will focus more heavily on retirement living in the Huntsville area. We lack the amenity filled communities tailored to the 55+ crowd like Robson Ranch, but we're a far better fit for the truly active adult crowd that doesn't want to live within a compound. I want to get those details right, and answer the questions most people have, so feel free to let me know if there are specific topics you want to know more about. Housing costs, general cost of living for seniors, tax breaks, active adult activities, senior friendly communities, and healthcare are the broad topics that come to mind for me. I'm also working on some blogs that go into more details, and have more links so people can continue their research. I'll start referencing those blogs in future videos as well.
@@DJ-GARLAND Bigger does not mean better. Actually, Huntsville is only somewhat smaller than metro Dayton was when I grew up there in the late 60s and 70s. Huntsville would have a comfortable feel in that regard. Shopping? That's what Amazon and Home Depot are for.... And could I even get a ticket to a Preds game?
@@mjpottertxyes! Who wants to wash the dishes in the living room!. Open concept is NOT appealing at all
Greenville is the county and metropolitan area and the country's 40th largest CSA in South Carolina. Don't be fooled by South Carolina's annexation laws.
can you do a Chattanooga vs Huntsville plz?
Hey, this is another comment I responded to the other day that I can't see my response. So, if you're seeing this for a second time I apologize. I visit Chattanooga fairly often, and I have family just outside of the city. It's one of the top 3 contenders people consider when they are looking at Huntsville. It's my next comparison, but it will be a few videos down the line.
what are the other tops contenders ? Thanks @@CameronWalkerRealty
Is Huntsville LGBTQ friendly?
Great question. Unfortunately, by giving my personal opinion I could be steering someone towards or away from Huntsville based on sexual orientation. Reddit is a great place to ask this question, and get responses from a wide variety of people who are not hamstrung like I am by licensing law. www.reddit.com/r/HuntsvilleAlabama/s/TZNIfLjyBP
Such an odd comparison. 300miles away from one another not to mention they’re in different states. Two different demographics.
A bit strange but ok. I guess as a CZcamsr your options of ideas are almost endless when comparing one city to another from anywhere in the US lol
It's only odd because it doesn't apply to you. Greenville the number one city my Huntsville clients are also considering. Calling me a CZcamsr is a bit grandiose for getting a few hundred views on the occasional video I post. I'm a real estate broker who uses CZcams to inform people about the Huntsville market. When several people are in similar situations within a short period of time then I usually try to make a video about it. I've had several clients in the last six months who were considering both Huntsville and Greenville. I thought I spelled out the reason for the video really well. Did you watch it, or just comment from the title?
You’re probably not aware that Huntsville and Greenville are two rapidly growing cities in the South and many people are trying to decide which city fits their needs. I am the demographic for this video. Thank you, Cameron.
Oh great the corrupt FBI
No…I watched it. Been to both over the past years. Again…two different demographics
The reality of the situation defies your perception.
@@CameronWalkerRealty defies my perception? The fact that the two cities are 300 miles away and both are in completely two different demographics of the U.S?
My perception is skewed by facts?
“The reality of the situation defies your perception” lol! Ok Cameron…I hope you the best and your clients you pull that jedi mind trick on haha
@@Voyagephotographyplease read your own comment. It's the two different demographics part that's off. I meet with people day in and day out about moving to Huntsville, and sometimes they also consider other areas. The fact is that Greenville comes up more than any other city when potential clients are weighing their options.
You, on the other hand don't meet with people day in and day out about moving to Huntsville, and despite that you keep commenting and replying based on your preconceived notion that no one would consider both cities as candidates for their move.
Based on each of our backgrounds, professions, and experience who is more likely to be right in this situation? The odds so heavily favor me being correct that it should have given you some pause after I replied to your initial comment.
Rather than take a critical look at the situation you make sophomoric arguments, and lob little insults along the way. First you implied that I just made the video to be a CZcamsr, and now it's your dismissive comment about mind tricks.
Just admit when you are wrong and move on. You can see where I did the same in the comment section on this video. Another viewer let me know the airport in Greenville is an executive airport, and I thanked them for correcting me.
I don't mind being corrected; it's how we grow and get better. However, I'm not the kind of person to just roll rover because someone on the internet disagrees with me.
The time I spend on researching, recording, and editing videos only has economic value to me if my videos are informative to my, admittedly small, audience. I make my living by assisting people who move to Huntsville, not off the hundreds of views on any of my videos. Even assuming I monetized my channel (I haven't), I would probably make somewhere between $.20 and $.50 per month based on my channel's views.
I have the professional experience to back my statements, and the economic incentive to make it worth my while to make those statements. You have neither.
I’ve been to both cities. Tell me how the demographics are different?
I actually think they’re quite similar. Also people make plenty of videos comparing living in Houston, TX vs Atlanta, Ga or New York vs Los Angeles. New York and Los Angeles are 3000 miles apart. I’m not quite understanding your point.