Knife Saw 刀锯 - Traditional Chinese Woodworking Tool

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  • čas přidán 15. 06. 2018
  • 中国传统木工木匠的刀锯。In this video I show you how to make a traditional Chinese woodworking knife saw. The title says "dovetail / short saw" but the correct translated name is "knife saw." This error was due to me not reading the title the Chinese master gave this saw and focusing the process and the fact that I've only ever seen him using this saw to cut the pin side of sliding dovetails. Apologies for the mistake.This is the fourth in a planned 7 video-series focusing on Chinese woodworking tools that are both traditional and different from European and English tools.
    Checkout the links below where I show you how to make a variety of traditional Chinese woodworking tools.
    How to make 7 traditional Chinese woodworking Tools:
    1. Chinese hand plane 刨子 ( • Hand Plane 刨子 - Tradit... )
    2. Chinese frame saw 锯 ( • Frame Saw 中国锯 - Tradit... )
    3. Chinese dovetail Plane 燕尾刨 ( • Adjustable Sliding Dov... )
    4. Chinese Knife Saw 刀锯 ( • Knife Saw 刀锯 - Traditi... )
    5. Chinese cutting gauge 勒刀子 ( • Cutting Gauge 勒刀子 - Tr... )
    6. Chinese bevel gauge 活尺 ( • Bevel Gauge 活尺 - Tradi... )
    7. Chinese styled half moon marking gauge 线勒子 ( • Half Moon Marking Gaug... )
    7b. Offset plate for easy layout of mortise and tenon ( • Offset Plate - Angled ... )
    7c. Foolproof Angled mortise and tenon with the half moon Chinese marking gauge and Offset Plate ( • Foolproof Angled Morti... )
    DIY saw plate ( • DIY Frame Saw Blade fr... )
    Dovetail/knife saw template ( / 1008065991518097408 )
    Traditional Chinese woodworking knife saw by master Xing Quian Sheng (幸全生)
    Part 1/2( • 【传统手工木工教学--工具制作】刀锯制作 )
    Part 2/2( • 【传统手工木工教学--工具制作】刀锯制作第二集 )
    The next planned Chinese woodworking project (5of7) is a cutting gauge. Thank you for watching, enjoy. Let me know if you have any questions.
    John Z Zhu
    www.johnzzhu.com
    @polywright
    2018 ALL RIGHTS RESERVED
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Komentáře • 76

  • @TheWoodYogi
    @TheWoodYogi Před 6 lety +4

    Another great tool, it looks really comfy by shape :) Really looking forward to the sliding dovetail video ॐ

    • @johnzzhu
      @johnzzhu  Před 6 lety

      Thanks Yogi. Working on editing that one together.

    • @TheWoodYogi
      @TheWoodYogi Před 6 lety

      Great :) I like the look of Chinese tools, but there isn't much information about. Do you know of any English translated books? Maybe you could do a series covering the basics of Chinese woodworking or some comparisons / differences to European and American technique ॐ

    • @johnzzhu
      @johnzzhu  Před 6 lety

      Honestly, I don't think there are drastic differences. I think woodworking is a perfect example of convergent evolution. It's not like you couldn't make European-esc furniture with Chinese tools or vice versa. The commonality is gross and differences tiny.

  • @teentheblue3644
    @teentheblue3644 Před 2 lety

    Always reckon this type of Chinese knife saw got to be the best handtool to open a groove/slot that is perpendicular to the grain

  • @AdventuresInDIY
    @AdventuresInDIY Před 6 lety +1

    I'm really enjoying the Chinese tool projects!

  • @brightnuertey1451
    @brightnuertey1451 Před 2 lety

    Great tortorials keep it up 👍

  • @federico4331
    @federico4331 Před 6 lety +1

    Thank you John. Great value in your channel.

  • @jessjulian9458
    @jessjulian9458 Před 6 lety +1

    That looks really good John. Thanks for sharing your talents and experience.

  • @kevindumais9610
    @kevindumais9610 Před 6 lety +3

    I like the hand made saw blade.

    • @johnzzhu
      @johnzzhu  Před 6 lety +1

      Thanks, you might want to check out the link to the more detailed method of making a saw blade.

    • @johnsoncustomcarpentry6844
      @johnsoncustomcarpentry6844 Před 6 lety +1

      Very impressed, I thought you was going to repurpose an old blade. Nice work!

  • @franka5416
    @franka5416 Před 6 lety +1

    Awesome project and idea, thanks for sharing.

  • @tomlagatol4448
    @tomlagatol4448 Před 6 lety +1

    Enjoyed the Vid, Thanks!

  • @georgesikonomou3895
    @georgesikonomou3895 Před 6 lety +1

    Thanks a lot men i realy love this guy and the way he works

    • @johnzzhu
      @johnzzhu  Před 6 lety

      You're welcome. His approach and mine are very different, you'd have to follow the link in the description to get how he did it.

  • @bonesstones6584
    @bonesstones6584 Před 6 lety +1

    Excellent!

  • @carlopieracci2828
    @carlopieracci2828 Před 6 lety

    many thanks Sir for ypur videos. You demonstrate one could works wood with almost no expense of money and still obtains beautiful results.

  • @nowhereman112244
    @nowhereman112244 Před 6 lety +1

    Very nice, enjoy watching your videos

    • @johnzzhu
      @johnzzhu  Před 6 lety

      Thank you, I make them for viewers like yourself.

  • @garagemonkeysan
    @garagemonkeysan Před 6 lety +2

    Nice to see these tool builds. : )

  • @robertbrunston5406
    @robertbrunston5406 Před 6 lety

    Looks cool John! Bet it's pretty handy to use! Thank you.

  • @maeafrika
    @maeafrika Před 6 lety +1

    Sensacional. Você é o cara!

  • @WayofWood
    @WayofWood Před 6 lety +1

    Great project. The brass riveting is not only easier but also visually a nice combination with the steel and the wood.

    • @johnzzhu
      @johnzzhu  Před 6 lety

      Thank you. I like it, I just think solid brass is a very classy touch when not over done.

  • @argentorangeok6224
    @argentorangeok6224 Před 5 lety +1

    You have a very cool channel. Although I'm only interested in pursuing western woodworking methods, I find myself in sheer admiration of the natural, graceful beauty of Chinese and Japanese joinery and lines, and the tools used to make them. That saw is gorgeous and fascinating. Subbed.

    • @johnzzhu
      @johnzzhu  Před 5 lety

      When I started Western woodworking techniques is all I did (2005-2016). Now I have taken the best of Chinese and European techniques.

  • @yaominghe5344
    @yaominghe5344 Před 4 lety

    感觉这把刀锯用来开槽相当好使啊

  • @SebR-FR
    @SebR-FR Před 5 lety +1

    Great ! thx :)

  • @MRrwmac
    @MRrwmac Před 6 lety +1

    Very nice and well done project. Looking forward to the build where you use it.
    Dang John, that cutting disc break was a close one for sure! Could have gone right through you. Very very glad you weren’t hurt! The Earth Dog of 4716 must be watching over you!

    • @johnzzhu
      @johnzzhu  Před 6 lety

      Thanks mac. I was behind the disc, it flung forward and down from me. But I agree I am blessed. You know what they say "don't tempt your Lord God," so I always try to remember to put on battle gear.

  • @crazymcrazym1483
    @crazymcrazym1483 Před 6 lety +1

    good handmade working Master!!! Super Arbeit von einem echt Meister Seines Fachs

  • @Lemongrasspicker
    @Lemongrasspicker Před 6 lety +1

    It almost reminds me of a stair saw. Pretty neat piece

    • @johnzzhu
      @johnzzhu  Před 6 lety +1

      It functions very much like it, you can use a stair saw to make the same cuts. I think (having never used a stair case saw) that this saw give you a different level/type of control. I hope to show you that in the sliding dovetail demonstration video.

    • @Lemongrasspicker
      @Lemongrasspicker Před 6 lety

      John Zhu I'd like to see it in action. I'll be watching

  • @billallmon4094
    @billallmon4094 Před 5 lety +1

    This is so cool im an ol fart wood worker and now im your grasshopper

    • @johnzzhu
      @johnzzhu  Před 5 lety

      Lol BA. Age is not a factor in self-improvement. Happy to be able to lead.

  • @johnzzhu
    @johnzzhu  Před 6 lety +4

    The title says "dovetail/short saw" but the correct translated name is "knife saw (刀锯)." Apologizes for the error.

    • @chaodong4620
      @chaodong4620 Před 6 lety

      John Zhu I thought it call 楼锯(louju),chinese dongbei call japanese saw 刀锯

    • @chaodong4620
      @chaodong4620 Před 6 lety

      great work anyway

    • @johnzzhu
      @johnzzhu  Před 6 lety

      The West has a similar saw called stair case saw. There may be many names. This is the name the Chinese master used in his title.

  • @tonyja661
    @tonyja661 Před 6 lety +1

    Looks great John, going to give this a crack, may try making the blaade like the azebiki style. Very nice finish on the handle too! Re the steel and brass. I think the original used the same metal as the brass and steel method may come loose due to different exansion.. but I seriously doubt it will effect performance.

    • @johnzzhu
      @johnzzhu  Před 6 lety +1

      I thought about an azebiki; but am trying to focus on Chinese woodworking because lots of people on Western YT do/adhere/obsess over Japanese woodworking.

    • @tonyja661
      @tonyja661 Před 6 lety

      John Zhu fair call. Your right, a lot do obsess without really understanding the tool or its history, if they studied a bit more they would know a lot of Japanese tools originated in Chinese areas and were modified over the years to suit. Still a great tool you have made. Not going to stop me making one oneday!

    • @johnzzhu
      @johnzzhu  Před 6 lety

      To each is his own. I am not responsible for those whose understanding is "he who has the most tools wins."

  • @yiyongleng7157
    @yiyongleng7157 Před 6 lety +1

    喜欢你的视频,锯齿也自己做,了不起!

    • @johnzzhu
      @johnzzhu  Před 6 lety

      多谢了。有时自己做的比买的要好。

  • @jamesbrandon4260
    @jamesbrandon4260 Před 2 lety

    I love your channel. This is a fantastic video. I could have used this saw before and I will try making one. What gauge/thickness of steel did you use? Is it a plain steel or stainless steel?

    • @johnzzhu
      @johnzzhu  Před 2 lety

      .025" if i recall correctly. It is high carbon steel.

    • @jamesbrandon4260
      @jamesbrandon4260 Před 2 lety

      @@johnzzhu thank you. This should be a fun project

  • @clydedecker765
    @clydedecker765 Před 5 lety

    John, my admiration for your talent is unending but this series of tools leaves something to be desired. You mention making "push" and "pull" blades but never explain how. You do show making one but ... that was not a "how" at all. I am supposing you could buy commercially available blades and cut them to fit ... I'd love to see how you maintain a precise 8 degree angle while cutting the dovetail across a wide board. I also assume adding a point to the blade would help in stopped dados.. Smaller teeth on the tip (1/2 inch or so followed by wider spacing?? Please make something to tie all of these together?

    • @johnzzhu
      @johnzzhu  Před 5 lety

      I have a video linked in the description on how to make blades. It is not my job to film 3 hr videos on a simple subject. The point of my video is to inspire people to try, there is sufficient information for anyone to make this saw if they wanted to. It is not the point of the videos to nauseate myself with details, humble brags, and pointless commentary.
      I can maintain the 8 degree angle because I blessed with work ethic and worked hard and trained my eye, hand, and feel coordination. There is no trick or short cut I can the viewers.

    • @yegong1425
      @yegong1425 Před 5 lety

      @@johnzzhu实木木工手工制作的精度不如钳工或机械加工,首先是使用者技术能力有限,手工制作总会产生误差,这是与机械加工的最大区别。其次是木材在使用过程中随环境变化而伸缩变形,加工时的高精度在成品使用过程中并不能永久保持。所以7度或者9度都是能够被接受的。辛老说过,十活九病。哈哈

  • @randomdds
    @randomdds Před 4 lety

    Looks a lot like an Azebiki, a japanese specialized saw.

  • @QuacGiaNgoVietCongHoa
    @QuacGiaNgoVietCongHoa Před 5 lety

    back saw is a more correct name.

  • @QuacGiaNgoVietCongHoa
    @QuacGiaNgoVietCongHoa Před 5 lety

    Maybe it will perform better than European back saw. it has a long handle to hold .

  • @georgesikonomou3895
    @georgesikonomou3895 Před 6 lety +1

    Création vidéo, i already knew this guy but for some reason he doesn't make videos anymore and i can't follow the link you put :(
    Anyway great job and keep on the good work

    • @johnzzhu
      @johnzzhu  Před 6 lety

      He only makes video on youku, the videos on youtube are or are not approved by him. I thought about voice over translation of his youku video, but I can't find his contact info to ask for permission. The links to his videos are now fixed.

    • @Aubreykun
      @Aubreykun Před 6 lety

      He is on youtube now! czcams.com/channels/SaXOMZMrMCZPdbPG947_-A.htmlvideos?disable_polymer=1

  • @QuacGiaNgoVietCongHoa
    @QuacGiaNgoVietCongHoa Před 5 lety

    Old Manchurian tool , cut when pulling.

  • @Lolmasaurus
    @Lolmasaurus Před 6 lety +1

    Is there any set to the teeth?

    • @johnzzhu
      @johnzzhu  Před 6 lety

      Yes, you decide on how much.

  • @daisycorta3340
    @daisycorta3340 Před 6 lety

    oliver

  • @user-fh2mi8yu6n
    @user-fh2mi8yu6n Před 5 lety

    不懂!这种锯子有什么特别之处。我还看到了。你的锤子好像不是木工的锤子。总之什么锤子只要自己用着顺手就好。但是想讲一下。你的锤子那么重,看着你用的时候。好像就不是很顺手。我总觉得你的锤子好像是从锻工或者钣金工、钳工那里借来的

    • @johnzzhu
      @johnzzhu  Před 5 lety

      It is used to make short cuts in cramped spaces, I use this saw a lot since I've made it. The hammer is just what I had laying around, the roundness of the back of the hammer helps to set the rivet.

  • @timflanigan8586
    @timflanigan8586 Před 4 lety

    Really like the two tone handle!