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- čas přidán 2. 04. 2024
- On the 20th Jan 2024 I uploaded a video discussing the possibility that Liam & Squire's song 'Just Another Rainbow' was actually written about former Stone Roses front man, Ian Brown (watch here: • Did JOHN SQUIRE Write ... ). In an obscure interview in another language in March... Liam & Squire actually responded to that theory!
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Many thanks, JH.
I think you're reading too much into Liam's "Lucifer" comment. All he's saying is that since the 60s people have played records backwards and think they can hear all sorts of occult and other esoteric things.
Hahahahahah yeah you're probably right. It just made me laugh... was a sentence I was not expecting
Liam's comment in reference to a question that was asked in the context of a video you had uploaded made sense to me. Just Liam being Liam and getting straight to the point.👌 @@JamesHargreavesGuitar
But don't ignore the "..trying to find Lucifer..." ...don't look for things that aren't there, if something comes to you that's one thing but don't look for it instead, go out and get some sunshine 😁😁😁
Robert Johnson inspired this czcams.com/video/gfh7NBIh4hg/video.htmlsi=bBWPu-YeJ_Ptr2A6
The Stone Roses played a lot of their own songs backwards. Don't Stop, Guernica, etc.
Liam / squire must surely appreciate that your videos are keeping people intrigued and interested in their music, the stories behind them, the theories etc, I bet they subscribe but under an alias account ;)
Look for anagrams in the screen names! 🤪
That’s great, James. You are becoming such a big account in the oasis fan/guitarist community, increasingly appearing on the radar of both Gallagher brothers. Keep it up 👍
Much appreciated :) more to come
Liams Lucifer comment is probably a generalisation of those who read too much into songs and think they’ve come across some kind of hidden message within - a la Manson.
The Lucifer comment is based on people finding secret messages when playing songs backwards - backmasking songs.
First Noel, now Liam big congrats James. I hope to get noticed by the Gallaghers one day especially since I’m seeing Liam in London on the Definitely Maybe 30th anniversary tour.
Wear a united shirt to the gig. That'll get you noticed.
@@Jimmy_MoonJames isn’t a Rag, is he?
Love your channel James. At this point you have to believe you will eventually get one of the brothers on your channel. It's only a matter of time. Keep it up!
Be brilliant and well deserved that
They both a bit too self important to speak to someone who's not gonna make them money for doing it
Noel has indirectly mentioned James on more than one occasion too.
Now both Liam and Noel are aware of James. It's only a matter of time before we see James playing guitar with the High Flying Birds or Liam's touring band.
Good stuff James. My mind is always blown after your videos 😅
Interesting stuff, James. Good to see that your work is getting recognised from the stars themselves!
You are hilarious. You read so much into people's lyrics, even though they've stated multiple times that they've been influenced by the abstract surrealism of 'I Am The Walrus'. And when Liam makes an obvious reference to people listening to records in reverse (not only 'Stairway to Heaven', but it's the most famous example), you call it 'random'
You are 100% correct and the fact JS is denying makes it even more correct, also if you sing just to hear Ian Brown, dripping on my tree it really works, thanks James ❤
They can't ignore you! Great content as always, James - cheers.
All Liam is talking about is the many exmaples of people who claim you can hear hidden messages and devil worship etc when you play records backwards. He is just saying you are one of those guys who digs for meanings that are not there.
That’s right, helter skelter, various Stones’ tunes and Led Zeppelin
Now connect Ritchie Blackmore and Ronnie James Dio with the band Rainbow to all this you can do it
You don't need to play them backwards to hear Lucifer.. if u just play them normally you'll still hear him.. that's what the corporate music industry is really all about.. wakey wakey
I hear your heart beat to the beat of the drums
That "Lucifer" comment reminds me of the 80's when the "Moral" Majority Christian groups would listen to albums backwards looking for Satanic messages. I'm 54 and remember those days here in America.
Iv been watching your videos a few months and love the content loved the masterplan video and your passion for oasis and both liam and noel
Anagram or not, Ian Brown is out doing literal karaoke whilst Squire is actually playing in a functional band with songs being sung (albeit somewhat nasally) more or less in key so... Point Squire at this stage.
😂😂😂
Fair comment. Ian Brown’s solo discography stands up well in most company, in my opinion. He’s a good collaborator and doesn’t try to dominate the whole thing. Loads of creative influences are apparent from those he worked with in each solo album.
John meanwhile seemed to have fallen out of love with the music scene and was deeply into his painting, which has been a constant for him forever.
@@GT380man True, Brown always had a slightly wider musical pallette - though I argue he was getting diminishing returns from it because, as you say, he has a larger discography. Always hard to get a read on whether John's heart is in it (his media appearances and live performance are a little subdued) still though, for better or worse, their album delivered exactly what I was expecting (... I wasn't expecting a better album than Revolver).
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Ian Brown had a much wider musical palette. That’s what started the gradual break up of the Roses in the early 90’s.
His solo career, especially ‘98 - ‘05, was a great achievement, he’d been written off and not expected to be seen again in music, and came back with several albums containing very original, quality innovative music.
It eclipsed The Seahorses, which were ultimately not even as good as lesser mid 90’s bands like Shed Seven, Cast etc.
Lol
Just to hear Ian Brown with Mani, Squire and Reni ONE more time will do.
💯🙏🙏🙏
Will never happen, it’s still a minor miracle it happened in 2011, and judging by Squire’s comments since, that was it.
Hey cheers for the shout out!… I’m just about to plug my music 😂😂
Glad to hear you also think the albums is biblical! I've heard a lot of people shit on the songs (mainly lyrics and over indulgence of John's solos), but I don't think the lyrics were that bad and John's playing was magic! I saw them in Newcastle and it was a fantastic gig. All the musicians were playing in top form and it was great hearing all the songs live.
Also, very cool they (sort of) responded to you, even if it was to tell you to get off ya phone 😂
Zip it Penfold 😂😂 quality comment as always from LG
Hahahahahaha as ever
His clapbacks are biblical 😂😂
I absolutely adore your videos 😅
I love finding the origin stories of pieces of art, and you are such a good story teller!
Congratulations on one to one Liam contact!! Not quite filming Nessie, but fairly close!!
Next time, you need to ask Liam what he thinks about Man City being pants this season!!🤣🤣
Lots of love
Liverpool supporter ❤❤❤
Put your smartphones aside for the moment. I do it everyday to get some air. Your videos are great james.
They're both right to be fair, you definitely need to get out more. Liam means there are sados out there that cant enjoy the music for what it is rather trying to find hidden meanings that arent there
Diversity mate… neurodiversity… we are all neurodiverse, part of that diversity, and the ‘sados’ that see things, hear things, think things, learn things and communicate things differently, they’re just atypical - not sad. They also _enjoy_ things differently. This diversity makes us stronger because not everyone is looking in the same direction, missing things happening behind or off to the side.
If we all had the same perception, us dolphins would never have become monkeys.
There are hidden meanings in many places. Maybe even in your comment?
@@michaeltownsend429WTF
There was a big noise in the US in the 80s about British heavy metal acts like Iron Maiden, Ozzy Osbourne and Judas Priest having hidden messages in songs, especially after two kids committed suicide after supposedly listening to messages in Judas Priest songs and the band eventually had to clear their name in court. That's possibly what Liam might have been referencing.
Yes, I’ve been finding out a bit more background to the Satanic backmasking accusations in the comments section actually. I was born in 83 and was mostly into the British scene so wasn’t aware of all this stuff in the states. Very interesting though!
You ever heard of the memoirs of Billy Shears and Mike Williams epic documentary did the Beatles write all their music, how the song yesterday was a 19th century Neapolitan song? m.czcams.com/video/ccEhmQ0M4FY/video.html&ab_channel=MikeWilliams%27PaulIsDeadChannel @@JamesHargreavesGuitar
Mystery solved - Bob Marley calls himself a Rainbow in one of his songs (Sun is Shining), he also has a song called Zion Train, and there is a train in the Just Another Rainbow video. Zion obviously being a 'biblical' reference.
maybe :D
It’s a cracking theory 🫡
We all got the FEAR 😮
Laughed at Liams response to that guy on Twitter 😂, typical Liam style lol love it. Great vid James.
Tbh I don’t think Jon squires is talented enough to write secret anagrams or hidden messages in his songs. Ian brown on the other half. Most definitely.
Absolutely agreed. Mr Brown is deeper than many realise.
Some still say “He’s a thug, he went to jail for threatening that airline stewardess”.
Utter nonsense and a miscarriage, that was. The establishment giving him a slap for who knows what.
zip it penfold haha. still think there's a story in there on Squire's experience with the reunion. Maybe Squire consciously sat back or it was the Ian Brown show who knows. Main thing now is Squire is working with a singer who can handle the expectations.
Ian Brown’s solo career has eclipsed what John Squire did after The Roses, including this album. He also wrote practically everything himself.
Also, John Squire was just as up for the reunion as everyone else, it was actually Brown that needed the most persuading, and there were no issues about it being ‘the Ian Brown show’ as you put it 👍
I saw in your thumbnail there two grand fathers,make me remember to dynamic duo that two grand fathers too😊
If I were Liam, I'd be less concerned about conjecture over hidden meanings, and more worried that I was going full on Derek Zoolander. He has almost perfected 'Blue Steel' at this point! Just look at that thumbnail!
Congratulations James! I love your “mini story” theory. I still have to watch your review though. I’m so glad you like the Gallagher/Squire album. I absolutely _love_ it.
Btw, “I’m a Wheel” is one of the finest British blues songs so nice John Mayall and His Bluesbreakers’ _Beano_ LP w/Eric Clapton and other greats of the 1960s - speaking strictly in terms of British blues.
But in regards to anyone saying “get out of the house more” to you, I say a big F U to them! (except for Liam and John - I am positive they appreciate you and your channel. You’re keeping their names out there - let’s face it, you’re promoting them.)
My fiancée and I love your channel. You’re so awesome. A guy I could have a pint or 5 with and talk music forever with.
You get people to _think_ about and look _deeper_ into things (y’know, use get them to use their brains more. Lol) and get them to see things in different ways. I love and appreciate that. It’s what I love about your channel and one of the reasons why I find you such a joy and interesting guy to watch.
I love people who think outside of the box. You certainly do that and then some.
Keep up the amazing work!
Btw, hopefully a Charlatans documentary one of these days? Watch, you probably did it and I missed it. Lol
Cheers and all the best from America! 🇺🇸
It's also poignant considering that First World Problems originally was done as a duet between Ian and John and had the guitar track of Just Another Rainbow. Yes, it's a bit of fun, but I always find it more fascinating how songs are ACTUALLY made.
I guess our own life experiences fed into anything we create.
The Lucifer thing is a bit like your ‘it was a fake moustache’ theory from Sgt Pepper
People often played LPs backwards and said they could hear the devil. It’s just a Liam comment, nothing too deep I’d say
But you’re spot on with the Ian Brown anagram stuff. You’re a clever fella James!
Never believe anything until it has been officially denied.
Yes nice one and thank you James✌🏻
Would you ever consider making a video on Liam's songwriting team? I'd love to hear your input on whether or not you think theyre any good, whether corporate songwriters water down music, and throw in some bits about Damon's comment against Taylor Swift!
also Blur videos by you would also be biblical😎
Hey Brother, what Rasta said is more like "There's always been people dissecting the art we create trying to find hidden meanings, patterns, references, secret messages and whatnot" I took it more as a cheeky bastard remark towards you, same as Noel did back when you were explaining the masterplan and the lucy affair a couple of years back. Anyways, love your work, keep it up if there's anyone that can be considered a Scholar of music and arts and everything Oasis it's you James.. Also, who wouldn't wanna hear Lucifer anyways? cheers!
Right on! Your analysis of Magical MMT could not have been wrong as well.
Did you do an analysis?
With regards to the Liam and John album, I think it’s good.
I’m not blown away by it, but on each play I like it more and more. Just Another Rainbow grabbed me instantly when I heard it. Basically it’s a step in the right direction for both of them and Liam is smashing it right now IMO and although I’ve never been a follower of John Squire’s music, he’s a bloody good guitarist and this album oozes 60s rock/90s indie.
These are exciting times right now for those of us who were there in the 90s with Oasis. I think Noel’s last album was a winner and apparently he’s ditching the acoustic album next and going for rock again. Happy times!
I think the album is amazing. Sounds of The Beatles, Jimi Hendrix, Stone Roses and Oasis. Liam has been challenged and rose to the challenge and they nailed it live. Leeds was a fantastic gig. I really hope the second album happens soon not left for years and they do more tours. Liam Gallagher and John Squire have saved my faith in new music (let’s face it. Most new music is pretty crap).
My two pence.
I think Liam was referring to the stairway to heaven played backwards thing. People looking to hear things that aren't there.
But could Squire have been more cryptic perhaps? Rainbows only happen outside in nature. They take rain and sunshine to create a rainbow.
The "Zip It Penfold" comment made me laugh because there's a bit of a Roses link. Back in the late 90's there was a guy on Roses internet message groups called Burnweed who wrote chapters of stuff about there being a conspiracy that the Roses wrote the Morning Glory album. There was loads of other stuff but he genuinely seemed to believe the Roses were sending out messages for him to pick up. There was a Select Magazine cover in December1995 that had the Roses on and there was a speech bubble above Mani's head which said "Zip it Weedbrain!" which this Burnweed guy interpreted as a message to him to stop spreading the stories. If you manage to find it on the internet it was called OneLoveStory and it's written like Bible passages. Really mad stuff but he had theories for loads of Oasis and Roses events. :D
Hahahahahahaha yeah I've heard rumours about the OneLove story... Never read it though.
I suppose a big difference there would be I really am actually making the vids just for a laugh and to create good content that people want to watch - and am 100% open about that. If that guy really believed he was getting messages from the beyond... then the poor bugger.
Good god Burnweed is a blast from the past, I remember his one love story in parts. Weaving in Princess Diana's death into it all was a master stroke. I wonder where he is now..
@@JamesHargreavesGuitar to add a mirrorlike snowball effect to this mammothean Luciferian question :), what could very well be just another everyday 'banal' quirk Liam'ism, was already here to be seen at 0.47 (gesture include et all).
Now, get more OCS guys back here to dig further on this old testament papyrus rereadings for our alleluias! czcams.com/video/0fEcz4xY83s/video.htmlsi=asvrP_3kfD9VLnvd
@@CAH123 he was off his head. :D
@@JamesHargreavesGuitar Think it went on for a few years and was on some Roses fan site but then Burnweed got upset because he thought Mani was the devil then he decided that it all needed to be taken down around 2001. He had some theory about the Roses split being a big hoax and they were sending messages to him through their music. Completely off his head. :D
My friend was a massive Roses fan in 1988, before they got known outside Manchester & was sickened when Ian Brown kicked a fan in the head, on stage. After that, he couldn't stomach them, cos it was so awful to see. I don't know what the moral of the story is.
Cranberry sauce !
As always - a very enjoyable channel:-)
That's awesome, James! Noel AND Liam now😅
that's hilarious. gave me a kick, slainte and well done, they're listening!
I do love your passion for Indie Music and Oasis in general.
I laughed my arse off at the Liam chime in!
Isn’t defamation just publicity nowadays
Listening to the lyrics now, I can believe this theory cause it would be too much of a coincidence if it wasn’t true, but I can’t imagine that Liam was complicit in throwing any kind of shade at Ian Brown.
There would be no Liam without Ian, no Oasis without the Roses etc.
Well maybe there would be watered down versions, but nothing like what we know and love.
I think Liam just heard what we all heard, a decent catchy tune…
I had tears in my eyes when I first heard it, I have never had that kind of reaction to anything, and while I appreciate a deep dive as much as the next, I feel like chatting broken biscuits about conspiracy theories, (even if they are true) pollutes it some how.
Life’s complicated and full of horrible snide bollocks enough as it is, can we not just have one nice pure thing…!?
He is probably never gonna admit it publically. Even it is true. Cause lots of folks/ the press is gonna haunt him for it. And it's not worth it to him. To us its still fascinating, so keep it up!
You should definitely be on Countdown bro 😊
John worked for Cosgrove hall animator's primarily on Danger mouse and dangermouses side kick was penfold , Same as Liam called you 😅
He didn't call James, Penfold. He called the guy commenting Penfold because he looks like him. Whereas James doesn't.
My theory is James is actually the 4th Gallagher Brother.
I always thought that was Ronnie O'Sullivan.
James, Big’un is interested in doing an Oasis interview. Are you interested?
I remember someone saying you can make HATES ROSES from THE SEAHORSES although you do have an E left over (no rave Jokes please). Maybe John just prefers Quality Street 😊
You are great ❤❤❤
Since liam was or still is a believer of god maybe has deciphered that lucifer once the perfect angel of God himself is the founder of music itself also referring to the planet saturn since in numerology is the 8th planet.
That record was pretty solid I thought 🤷♂️
I think perhaps, Liam is more astute than he is given credit for. By your own admittance James, you have actually been trained to hear Lucifer, in your younger years.
Maybe he's well aware of your back story?
I just thought just another average as fuck song,album it’s not a great album,at best it’s good and I thought when I heard that this album was coming out.
I was buzzing I thought The Seahorses it’s coming around again.
As soon as I heard the start of Just another rainbow I instantly knew what we were in for and in that respect they didn’t disappoint,there’s no need for another album surely 😢
I'm just glad that John Squire's back playing and releasing music. He's TOO good to be just an artist. Best lead guitarist in the past 40 years, easily imo. Hope the 2nd album has more of his usual style of playing 🙏🍋🍋🌊🐴
Another interesting vid James, enjoyed it. Gets u thinking, don't know if there's much in the Ian brown thing 🤔 but i think u could be right about the bored with the screens thing and getting out more tho.
My theory: John was a big fan of the 80s kids tv show, rainbow and he is still traumatized that its not on anymore.
Shows that we may be giving these guys too much credit as songwriters🤣
You're too clever for them James
Your theory remains convincing.
John may not be ready to affirm it while the album is in the spotlight. Songwriters enjoy some level of mystique that allows them to write personal material (including digs at other public figures).
Were the Roses not famous for their backwards songs? Don't stop etc?
Theres only one N in Rainbow. No points im afraid. Now tell Rachel how many large numbers & how many small?
Are Squire and Brown even on bad terms now? The Roses might be over but the final gig ended with them hugging, there didn’t seem to be any animosity.
If you read an interview Squire did in 2019 about his art, and one about a month ago, both with The Guardian and both free to read online, it seems they’re not on great terms.
He doesn’t definitively say, but he basically hints it heavily, and says only Mani was invited to his exhibition I think.
Apparently they all made a pact not to badmouth each other again in the press. Similar thing with The Verve, they never say anything bad about each other but they don’t speak anymore.
Hi James,for some reason CZcams unsubscribed me from your channel
It's blatantly obvious it's what they or Squire has done
Rainbow isn't an anagram of Ian Brown though
Liam is hanging around your Twitter. That´s funny. Didn´t Noel even once comment on you beeing a nerd or something?
I seen the video you posted. Looked deep in the words " we crossed the line" . I recon the line they crossed was not singing the Rainbow colors in traditional order. Traditional "Red and yellow and pink and green orange and purple and blue'.. they crossed the line by singing it differently there..
Paul Mc Cartney is still alive as we type btw m8😅
Well, one of them is.
I love this ❤😂
Is Squire calling Liam just another Ian brown then?
Check out the jacket from Lucifer Rising.
Spooky!
Wasn’t there also a Beatles song supposedly containing the devil’s lyrics cant remember what or if I was if played backwards
I think that relates to the 'Paul is dead' conspiracy and Revolution 9 that if played backwards is meant to say 'turn me on dead man'
I think you're being trolled by the 3 of them some how 😂
thats pretty cool mate
It's clever. It's an ode to a true original.. Ian Brown. Who's Gallagher a tribute act of? Ian Brown. Gallagher is just another Ian Brown.. Genius really..
At the end of the day, LG, Tim Burgess, Richard Ashcroft, Rick Witter and the list goes on were all taking cues from Ian Brown.
When he started in the mid 80’s he acted like Morrisey though!
absolutely no way that is a conincendence
Maybe someday you’ll get a chance to meet the man himself!
Would be great if it happened.
If I haven't pissed him off too much by then hahahahaha
I’ve met him in 2012, looked off his face 😄
Zip it PENFOLD 😂
This mint!
judas priest went to court in the 80s over music played backwards thats what Liams meaning I think. People over thinking what what songs mean when its just a song about rainbows....
Wheres the anagram? Pfft....
They smokin too much weed man!
Cool as fuck mate. Keep up the good work ✌️
Cheers :)
Oh Lord.
fair play, i know he is aware of you. Me and my flatmate know u are an Oasis nutjob but we love watching your vids.
In the 80’s, bands like Judas Priest and others got taken to court due to their lyrics - Satan, suicide, etc but nothing came of it. People are strange.
This video is better than the album! 😂
Can't believe you didn't watch First World Problems and get the very obvious meaning. Ian plays ALL the Roses' instruments in it, showing he's now doing it all himself. The Resurrection guitar at the end symbolises the end of the resurrection of the band that he spoke about in he reunion press conference.
John said in a recent interview that he's talked to Ian, but has only seen Reni once (at Mani's wife's funeral), which is what people who know that commented on that video also said - that as far as we know Ian and John are cool (unlike the first time). And no way on earth would Liam disrespect his hero like that.
I think this idea should be respectfully dropped.
Actual live shows too short and lacking chemistry, i read?
best ive ever seen either of them live. The gnarly blues songs sound amazing live and suit Liams voice.