Doctor Reacts to Dangerous NFL Play Ending Mark Andrews Season
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- Mark Andrews suffered a season-ending ankle injury as a result of a hip drop tackle. Should that be banned?
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It's really tough because I totally understand the idea behind banning it to try and prevent injuries like this, but like you said, it's going to make it very difficult for a defender to make a tackle in situations like this. Especially when tight ends are getting better and better at catching and running. If you banned a tackle like this, it's going to make it damn near impossible to tackle some tight ends.
It was just bad luck. I didn't see anything dirty on the tackle.
@@tokk3n-hj4xghe’s rolling over his ankle and that’s what caused the injury. This is not the first player who has done this.
@@tokk3n-hj4xg He's intentionally swinging his body weight. That's the issue. Same thing that happened to Pollard.
@@FabuBrikhe’s making a football play, the only thing intentional was him making a legal tackle. Like OP said if you ban these tackles some guys become virtually impossible to defend.
@@FabuBrik Just say you don't know how momentum works... jesus
It’s tough but at the end of the day, they all sign up to play a contact sport. Injuries are part of contact sports. We make the game worse and actually more dangerous by making all the tackling restrictions. Nick Chubb’s knee was a result of the NFL changing the tackling rules.
I think that was more a result of turf because that probably wouldn’t have happened on grass, but yeah, there’s a reason they get paid millions
@@Thucydites that’s not true. There was a study done comparing both turf and grass and it turns out you’re as likely to get injured on grass as on turf.
@@gh2471 I’ll have to look into it, that might be an interesting read. Thanks for letting me know.
@@ThucyditesAcrisure Stadium is grass, not turf. It’s been that way since it was Heinz Field
Dawg look at frame 50 secs
What if that was your ankle 😂yall crazy
Great job Brian, been following you for a few months now. When someone gets hurt I’m always looking for your comments and professional view.
I think the NFL is getting ridiculous with it's tackle rules. Before you know it, all limbs will be "off limits" for tackling, that it'll basically be a flag football league.
Yea, well Logan Wilson injured all 3 of them. By rolling up on their heels, he clearly was doing it intentionally! IMO, just hate dirty players
By your logic face masks and horse color tackles should be legal. This is not a serious opinion.
@@nothanksguyI love horse color tackles 😍
@@kristopherwilson506 troll
They forced people to tackle low in order to prevent concussions, knowing it would cause more knee and ankle injuries.
Brian I love the way you get to explain all these sports injuries. As a ex therapist I geek out over all your explanations.
You’re dead on how else could he be tackled…. It seems it’s the defenders “weight” or the force used to counter the offense players momentum.
An ex-therapist or a sex therapist?
Its gotta be hard to be a defender in the NFL these days. It also gives refs authority to make judgement calls during playoffs to swing momentum.
Only during the playoffs does this matter?
The reason is because American Football players are not trained in tackling.
*How do you explain that Association Rugby players are trained from the age of 6 or 7 to make clean tackles, but American football players are so sloppy their entire body weight lands on a tendon/ankle, huh?*
Imagine being a defender who doesn't even know how to properly tackle a player 💀
@@CertifiedClapaholic matters most because the season finality
@OnyemaechiAmuro well that's why it's American football. Part of its appeal was the big hits that are now flagged. With the exception of collar tackles, headhunting, face masks all other forms were legal. Rugby is also fun to watch but I stopped making comparisons a long time ago because the athletes are built to play the game differently. It's like cool comparing netball to basketball. Looks similar but that's about it.
If they keep messing with the rules we will end up with every game looking like the last Pro Bowl or Flag football. It wasn’t a dirty play, it was a tackle. If he grabs him high it’s horse collar. Bottom line is these guys know the risks, and accept them.
What should he have done? Let Andrews walk into the endzone. It wasn't dirty at all
He could have just hit him in his legs. He didn’t have to roll underneath him. He could have ran through his side as well and made a form tackle without leaving backwards.
Earholed him like it was 1986 and earned the penalty next year instead of getting called on some bs play like this.
Same tackle that broke Pollard ankle last year
Great video! We're seeing a lot of this (intent vs natural movements within a tackle) with the "targeting" calls we see where the defender is actually leading with his shoulder and there happens to be some incidental contact between the helmets. Sometimes you can't help what happens in the split second of a tackle in the midst of a game. We need some kind of review process for these bang bang defensive plays.
Thanks!
I agree with you. This tackle isn't ideal, but I don't see the value of banning the tackle. We still like seeing good defensive plays. We don't want football games to run to forty and fifty points every game.
I dunno. I think the fantasy guys are okay with that. They were raised on high-scoring video games. But that's not real NFL football. Defense usedta be an awesome thing. Now they've made it toothless and every move is punishable. The PI flags have ruined things, that's for sure.
@@sportsmediaamericawhen I played fantasy, our league also had defensive players as well as defense categories on our rosters. While everyone loves ballhandlers getting 30 pts per game, stagnant defenses could still drag you down the rankings, lol.
@@AhStuttgartyes but you can still hit hard in rugby
Its unfortunate what happened to Mark Andrews but I can only appreciate how great this video is and the small things you do for your videos, such as changing shirt and tie for the Joe Burrow video despite probably being recorded on the same night!
Lol this comment. “Sorry Mark…DOC YOUR THE BEST I LOVE YOU!!!”
Good info and good take
It’s just a tackle. You can’t just ban tackling lol
Wouldn’t be the first time
Very interesting. Thanks
I’m a ravens fan and I’m more upset about the extra curricular after the play. The Andrew’s tackle I think was clean and technically Wilson dropped his weight to the field first so it really isn’t even hip drop. As an outsider it’s easy to say “you can’t get rid of it” or vice versa, but what do the players want? If it truly would cause less injuries and players want it, then you get rid of it. Whether a player means to do something or not doesn’t constitute the foul, the rules do.
it was clean. sucks how it ended
lol of course the offense want to shackle the defense . some hits are dirtier than others . if the offensive players want to make football into a safe game they can demand there be no defense
@@peterf.229exactly if we challenging this then can they at least call opi and holdings by Linemen and the pushing the pipe crap
oh for sure, however I'm more familiar with NBA and how they have a players union. I'm not sure if that exist in the nfl. If it does the union would have defensive and offensive players. So if this was brought up It would have to be mutual.
Yeah, if we're going by the NRL definition of "hip drop" then the hit probably isn't even illegal because his weight (knee and leg) hit the ground first.
Great stuff Doc. Bart Scott and other retired pros are saying defenders train to intentionally tackle this way knowing the probability of injuries and is calling for it to cease, he is really quite specific on the intent question taught in tackling drills, every team has a staff of trainers and pros who know exactly how to inflict injury I mean tackle 😮
As a Ravens fan, it sucks Mark Andrews is injured, but I think the hip-drop should not be banned.
If the NFL bans this tackle form, they might as well put flags on the players at this point.
We have to remember that the offensive player is tasked with trying to avoid being tackled and gain as many yards as possible while the defender is literally just trying to stop the player as soon as physically possible. If you want to try and legislate this type of tackle which occurs naturally... You might as well just switch to flag football already. This was not and is not a dirty play at all IMO. It just appears bad in slow motion.
There’s only so much you can do as a defensive player going 100mph and being put into certain positions. They need to hold offensive player accountable whether that a WR dropping his head when coming down with a catch causing a helmet to helmet hit, throwing a hospital pass across the middle, leaving a Dlinemen or LB unblocked leading to sack(roughing the passer), having to tackle someone from behind, a QB sliding 5 feet infront of a defender going 20mph, the list can go on but my point is we have no rules that offensive players have to follow for their own safety
On the second tackle, it wasn't the initial tackle that was dirty. It was the follow through where it looked like he stood up and twisted Lamar's ankle.
Yeah that was fucked up. Logan Wilson also went for Lamar's ankle like 3 different times during the game. Fuck that dude. I understand tackling, but trying to grab/throw your body into the same injured body part is messed up and borderline psychopathic.
That's related to the horse collar tackle banned due to Cowboys Safety Williams back in the day, he broke 2 or 3 legs that way.
Completely different using equipment from behind vs falling down and dragging a guy to the ground
Btw doc at 2:39 when you ask about how else you would make a tackle there besides the hip drop tackle, there is another way. Do hawk tackle. Instead of having your head on the inside side of the ball carrier or runner, my team was and still is taught to hawk tackle where you put your head aligned with the ball carrier’s opposite hip or what we call cheak to cheak and drive with our hips up and forward then would fall on top or over/away from the guy’s torso/side hip area on the body. Avoiding their ankles when properly performing it. Ik that the Seahawks still do this I believe if you need to see what I’m talking about on video.
It is a physical sport!!
Some of these injuries are going to happen, especially with the runner fighting to stand and continue.
As far as injuries such as this have been limited with the banning the "hose collar" tackle.
Look @ 0:50 hip to ankle
Aka hip drop lol 😂
Wwhat else Ah coulda he done else to tackle hims ah??
WRAP UP AND ROLL, pull him while clearing your feet, lol yall lazy
NOT DROP 😂
QBs get all the protection in the world why shouldn't receivers? Defenses will adapt.
@@Jinz3 Because QBs are significantly more vulnerable as well as valuable. The season is over for most teams if their QB goes down. And they don’t let you kill receivers in the middle of the field anymore, otherwise you’d be onto something.
are there better shoes or equipment that can protect the ankle areas better?
If your going to end the hip drop tackle, you need to have the player stop movement when wrapped up. Game can't be played if both actions are not stopped. Once player gets wrapped up they must stop movement or you get hip drop even if not intended.
You cant ban this tackle. If you did then you just wont be able to tackle tight ends. You cant go low, you can go high, now you cant wrap up from behind. Ridiculous.
Please make a video regarding the QB Jordan Travis of thee Florida State Seminoles 🙏 it seems as if this was due to another hip drop tackle 😔
Defense has already been nerfed into the ground over the years by the NFL. You cant stop injuries from happening and football without defense isnt football.
I don’t think the tackle itself was as bad as him holding on to the ankle on his way up. After you tackle them let them go
I get it, this tends to lead to a lot of unnecessary injuries. But some guys are too big to tackle so they do whatever legal maneuver they can to bring him down.
I got a great idea. Why don’t we just played two hand touch football from now on or maybe spice it up with flag football, but wait someone can get kicked in the face when they jump for the flag so that won’t work. I guess we can’t even do two hand touch because you might push someone down and have them sprain, a wrist or some thing terrible like that.
Great video doc! I’m a huge Ravens fan and Mark Andrews is a huge loss for our football team.
I think the onus needs to be on offensive players. Like if you’re suggesting that you can’t wrap someone up from behind that literally means defenses can only take face to face above waist? Instead I think offensive players need to start bracing for these hits better i.e. start going down OR take the risk of trying to break the tackle but potentially getting hurt.
He plants his foot under the defender AFTER the defender makes contact. I don’t understand how people blame the defender for that.
Yes offensive players have the choice to go down before getting tackled.
@@thebigmanufacturer he didn't plant his foot under, the defender fell oh him idiot
This tackle has became more prevalent because player can't hit high & don't run the risk of hitting to mid section because some ball will get low & then it can head being head to head. So it's either back to regular football or a lot lower body injuries misfortune but defense is apart of the sport.
Yep.
Thanks for the detailed analysis of the mechanism of injury. As a lifetime football fan I agree that this does not appear to be intentional on the part of the defender. I am a Ravens fan and having Andrews out for the rest of the season is depressing.
I was looking for Brian on Twitter last night to get some insight to what may be the injury to andrews.
this tackle is actually good form tackling. The only thing you could do here is to hit them high, which then leads to more incidental helmet to helmet contact, resulting in more concussions. It would be a slippery slope banning something like this. Not only does it make it impossible to tackle at this given angle, it wouldn't be easy to enforce fairly especially given how defenses are penalized more and more every year due to rule changes and such.
@@AhStuttgart Rugby is not the same sport. Other than not wearing pads, NFL is way tougher. Pads and helmets also add surface area. Duece is right in the fact that if we ban what is a textbook tackle, it would possibly lead to more helmet to helmet collisions
Rugby is not tougher, you can watch tons of Rugby players analyzing the NFL on youtube. They all say that NFL has way more hard contact and that they are glad they play rugby. But regardless, both sports are tough and rough. Like the Rugby players were most shocked with kickoff and punt returns because the dudes are going full speed head on. But anyway, the contact in Rugby is not harder than NFL even with pads added in.@@AhStuttgart
@@tumorinc5695we would probably see more people torpedo knees if they ban this tackle. How are CB’s supposed to tackle TEs that can be 50lbs or more than them?
Have people forgot what happened to Gronk all the time?
@@roberttaylor4275 Torpedoing knees is exactly what is going to happen now that they have done this stupidity. Puts the defenders head at major risk and the ball carriers knees but the NFL can collect that sweet sweet fine money.
Please do an analysis on the leg fracture from hip drop tackle to the Florida State QB. Injury was 11/18/23.
I’m here waiting for the Travis Jordan vid to drop. Who else?
I'm an Australian Rugby League fan. The NRL has outlawed the hip drop but there has been times where its been an accident or a situation where there isnt much other option and players have been harshly suspended
After watching a video on hip drop tackles, it seems like this one wouldn’t be illegal. He gets his own body to the ground first and wasn’t aiming for the legs. Andrew’s ankle was unfortunately in a bad spot.
As someone who’s played the sport, not at the highest level, but stand on the sideline of a CFB game or a NFL game. The size these dudes are and the speed there moving each collision is like a car wreck and the last thing most of the players are thinking is trying to injure someone when they have a opportunity to make a play(at least when I played, cause shii happens quick). To put the speed of the play into perspective the average run play takes 3 seconds and the average pass play is 5-6 seconds
As someone who is a kinesiology major and played football for majority of my life I appreciate this
Yeah I don't think there's any way to get rid of this. If you wrap someone up around the hips either you take them for a ride, or they take you for a ride. The reason this happed is that from the contact point, the runner is bigger and is able to pull the tacklers upper torso up field while the tacklers back half is still going the direction it was going at the point of contact, making a jack knife sort of situation. Best thing you can do if you're wrapped up around the waist is to just go down. You're not breaking that tackle when you're wrapped up like that, and to drag him you need to lean forward and really leave your driving feet behind you vulnerable. Bigger stronger players are most vulnerable to this because they can withstand the initial hit and try to power through. Obviously WAY easier said than done, this happened so fast he'd have to be anticipating the tackle, and the whole value of being a TE is having the size to fight through contact. So I doubt there's any way to completely avoid this.
I had this kid on a lot of my teams growing up in youth ball, and he would always tackle like this. I was tall and skinny as a kid so every time he tackled me like this it would put my knee in a really awkward/stressful valgus position. Luckily I was a kid so my skeleton was rubber.
But if I got tackled like that at a higher level than youth ball, there would’ve been problems.
Logan Wilson isn’t dirty and never has been. He has no personal foul penalties
@@IDontGetTired11 How are most other players usually able to bring guys down without destroying their legs?
Not everybody's skeleton is rubber
I had fracture issues for my entire life
Separated shoulders, 6 rib fractures, at least 25 HAND finger fractures, 2 ankle fractures, 1 wrist fracture, and 4 nerve injuries three times in the same arm n the first 2 literally 6 weeks apart n damaged nerves in the back that occasionally flare up
I have injured so much crap that I am really adept at treating injuries from personal experience alone
@@IDontGetTired11well someone said he injured 3 players for landing on their ankle so he’s doing something to cause injuries if it happens 3 times
@@killersan6857he’s never had this problem in the NFL, and hasn’t even been flagged for any type of bad hit in his career. Injuries happen. If the NFL wants to ban the tackle then that’s for them to do. Wilson’s tackling was 100% legal under current NFL rules.
i think it's ridiculous that people think this tackle shoould be banned. injuries happen man. it's football. it sucks, but it's bound to happen. i think logan wilson knew what he was doing on at least the lamar tackle, and so did many other bengals players. i am a ravens fan btw, happy we got the dub but devastated about mark.
this has been a staple of logan wilson injuring people through his career , this is why most Vikings fans hate his guts
Vontaze Burfict did this quite a bit among other horrible things. He ruined a season for Leveon Bell
@@mattsewell2732He knocked the crazy into Antonio Brown too
These big tight ends are not easy to bring down. You’re not going to drive through them at that angle so grab and drop is your only option.
You’re acting like this hip drop technique has been around for 50 years or something. It’s a new technique being taught to corners and safeties in the past few years because of their smaller size. If it can be taught in only a few years, it can just as easily be banned. I can tell you’ve never played the sport
Exactly.... these guys are basically defensive ends catching the ball now
@@AhStuttgarttackling angles are so vastly different in the nfl and rugby it’s not a good comparison imo, nfl players are constantly having to tackle from behind when driving through isn’t going to be an effective option
@@AdamAtlanta404 It’s a dive tackle and it’s been around forever. It’s the trailing defenders’ only choice in order to tackle the ball carrier as fast as possible. There’s no special technique lol.
Now, if he pulled some crazy judo leg sweep, maybe…
@@handleapriori yeah i dont think were talking about the same things. you sound like a rugby player. just stay in your lane from now on
I appreciate your podiatric angle to the injury. However, there is not making tackle football safe unless you just get rid if the sport. Like you said there are too many instincts . Accidents will happen. Just the way life is.
This can't be a rule change. You already can't breathe on the QB, you can't ban tackling also. Everyone that has played the game at any level has to understand the risks involved.
@@AhStuttgart the goal is to get the guy tackled, not grab him, decide how to tackle then proceed to finish said tackle.
Wny not ban pads altogether?
Encourage pastel colors and welcome transathletes and just play one hand touch with automatic remainder of the season disqualification if player moves beyond this?
Make it so certain tackles with huge potential for injury that are often incidental (in this case, hip-drop tackle) incur suspension for the injurer that is the same duration as the injured's injury.
In other words, if you end someone's season doing a tackle of this class, you are suspended for the season.
Two season-ending injuries of very important players to both teams. Insane man
Good Commentary. Discourage it but I agree ... it opens up other opportunities for different type of injuries.
I never would've thought I'd subscribe to a channel like this, but if you love football and the players, you should too.
3:07 they might just need to wrap up the legs and spin.
Hip drop is basically physics if you’re tackling someone who is farther downfield than you are. If I’m behind you and we’re running in the same direction, if I bring you down…my body is going to fall on your legs.
Wilson graduated top of his class at the university of Burfict.
Vontaze! Where are you now??
Burfict used his helmet to hit people and would twist their ankles after the play. Logan Wilson tackles people and you cry about it. Maybe stick to bowling or golf if this kinda play triggers you
He’s not using his dead weight to crush his ankle. He’s using his dead weight to bring down a giant freak athlete that doesn’t go down easily.
I think we are now at the stage where all tackles should be banned
Why couldn’t the LB hit, wrap, and drive through the ball carrier as we were taught in the 80s/90s? Not a fan of the hip drop technique as it seems designed to break the offensive player’s ankles in order to avoid rattling the defensive player’s brains rather than teaching good technique (hit/wrap/drive).
Yeah, it’s a tough decision like you said because I don’t think Logan Wilson was trying to do anything besides make a play. I’m not sure you can ban it without making it super tough on defenders either. Just a tough situation overall
If they get rid of it that means tackling as a whole will be banned
😮 I don’t see how you rule that type of tackle out as it’s a continuation of an everyday tackle (unlike the horse collar tackle, which has a defining illegal start).
The only reason people tackle like this in the first place is because they banned other methods of tackling. There is no way to officiate this. They will throw a flag every time someone makes a tackle from behind.
I agree with doc's opinion of this, and what I liked the most is how he acknowledges how impractical it would be to actually stop this from happening much at all. Many plays in football create inadvertent actions, and of course these can still lead to dangerous situations. This is exactly why I think the NFL is going to create more problems in actually banning this type of tackle.
I’m 6 2 235 and played ball-he slid down and dragged him down-that’s why he went under his legs and had to pull him down-no intention there-and he stayed and knelt down after he was hurt
Can you do Keaton Mitchell’s injury
The ball carrier should be aware where the defender is coming from and protect himself, instead of trying to step through the tackle. He took that extra step and it cost him dearly.
100 percent this. If you don't want to risk injury go down/give your self up. If you want the glory and the TD then take this risk and fight for yardage. There are all kinds of "light on your feet" drills that plays can do. If this TE started to high step he would have fallen to the side or differently. But he tried to drag the tackler and at this level athletes should know better. There should be teaching on "how to get tackled to avoid injury" just as there is all this emphasis on "how to tackle" to avoid injury.
As a medical doctor and former football player who suffered a fracture while dragging a tackler I have to totally agree with this comment and the earlier comment which prompted his reply. Contact was made on the 6 yard line The only way to bring the receiver down short of the goal line without targeting the left knee was with this kind of tackle. If you ban this technique you also have to blow the play dead when a runner is in the grasp but still moving forward otherwise you’re gonna see a lot of 260 lb TEs dragging 190 lb DBs down the field (I realize Wilson is a 245 lb LBer). Also if this type of tackle is banned it must be reviewable and overturned if the tackler is being dragged or if it is a bang bang play like this without clear intent. The NFL is loaded with big, powerful players. Injuries are going to occur. Legislating out dangerous techniques is reasonable to a degree but at some point it will undermine the integrity of the game. We are approaching that threshold.
@@alexanderrogers4157
Football players know the risks. They make millions. If they ban anymore ways of tackling, they might as well just switch it to flag football. The offenses already have a such huge advantage over defenses due to the numerous rule changes over the last 10-15yrs or so.
Been saying this for years.. but it’s hard since defenders can’t go low. Might as well bring the flags out. Speedy Recovery!!!🙏🏾🤞🏾🙏🏾
thank you for breaking it down. no pun intended.
They Just banned the hip drop tackle. Thank you for your work and advocacy Dr.
Nobody should argue with safety. That said, the game needs major face-lift. Create all these safety rules but to prevent it from looking like arena league 59 to 48 bs, 11 men on offense 12 on defense, problem solved. Not quite. Some more changes to then help the offense, like no more than 7 in "the box" and maybe a # limit on blitzing or over the limit is considered all out and put cap on how often they can all out blitzing. Maybe some different rules for final 2 mins ??
looks like a worse version of this tackle just happened to Jordan Travis
I’m all for reasonable precautions against CTE, and things like torpedoing a players knees, and I hate the crowd that constantly railing against any player safety measure for being “soft”.
That being said, the NFL’s implementation of player safety measures lately has been incredibly frustrating. Officials have been making some absolutely outrageous calls, and the NFL has been issuing even more outrageous fines, such as fining ball carriers for lowering their head to break through the goal line.
I do not trust the NFL to make decisions that strike a balance between preserving the sport and protecting the player. There are so many situations wherein a defender gets penalized when they did the only thing they could do aside from not making a tackle. It’s significantly impacting the game at this point, something has got to give.
Sure, there’s a crowd that will not be satisfied until hitting is completely removed from the sport-but the NFL would cease to exist at that point.
In my opinion, they should keep it to targeted/malicious blows to the head/neck, and targeting the knees.
Stop calling roughing the passer if a defender’s pinky brushes a QB’s helmet, or he starts his tackle before the throw but finishes it just after the ball is gone.
It’s so frustrating to watch. They make awful rules and hire awful officials to call them. To that point, there’s no incentive to be a truly amazing, fully committed ref because they’re not even paid year-round somehow, even though the NFL is richer than god.
Football is high risk injury sport. Don't turn it into flag football. Be upfront with the risks when you talk to the kids about playing. I think medicine will continue to improve and injuries won't be career ending.
Also injuries are gonna happen in a contact sport. That's the risk of it, can't just ban every type of tackle. The game is already hard enough to watch
Very painful…damn
What's next? A ban on hip-hop?
Hip to the hop, drop to the hip. High ankle sprain and you go down the drain.
(I'm terrible at this)
The problem with the hip drop tackles is that the tackle is made by attacking hips rather than the legs or ankles. Also, the intent is to draw the player down. Now, I know in the situation you would want to stop any yards gained but from this ankle it would be safer to tackle through the player pushing them towards the side line. This movement again would have reduced the likelihood of this injury occurring as the action is pushing rather than dropping so the hip drop tackle wouldn't have been an issue. In general, I feel it is more about the coaching rather than a rule change. Open to alternative opinions.
The hip drop tackle is the same way that Patrick Mahomes was injured last year against Jacksonville.
It’s a dangerous sport. I would love to see players play more straight up, but the objective is to tackle. There should be some examination regarding intent and if it is objectively “dirty” it should be penalized.
Hip drops are banned in rugby and harshly punished due to how many long term injuries it causes
What is the punishment?
@@sportsmediaamerica I think minimum people are getting is 5 weeks for a bad one and the severity of the injuries are usually always bad
Can you let us know how you think this will effect Andrews next year?
The Lamar tackle from Wilson was dirty
If you can't tackle like that, then 6'5" 250 lb tight ends shouldn't be allowed either. It's the only way to bring down someone bigger than you
I don't think you can take this tackle away from defenders. I think its going to come down to coaching and player decisions on the ball carrier if they want to risk the tackle or slide to avoid injuries like this.
I agree that to ban the hip-drop tackle would be a big change in the game for players and fans to cope with. Is there some type of equipment that can protect the ankle that everyone could wear, like hip and shoulder pads? Do these injuries occur in other sports, rugby for example?
It’s actually the exact opposite. Rugby players are injured significantly less frequently *because* they don’t wear pads.
When you’re not wearing 20lbs of armor on you learn how to tackle people without destroying your body because hits hurt more
There is some responibility of a player to protect himself. These days you see a lot ofso called skill players running out of bounds, or getting down before taking a big hit. They are not sacrificing their body for a few extra yards anymore.
Good video. If the NFL would really push Rugby style tackling, this goes away.
Rugby reaches put your head on the back of the tackle. Not the front. If he put his head on his butt here, he might score, he still gets tackled and doesn't roll up on his leg
If you grab a leg to tackle it's hard not to pull down like that. Legs are always getting caught up in tackles. It sucks but in the moment how do you not do that.
Thanks, doc for this great explanation. Football would be the greatest sport ever if it wasn't for all these damn injuries. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem like there's easy answers :-(
When did the hip drop tackle become so popular? I’ve seen so many guys get hurt from it in recent times.
Probably around the time you aren't allowed to light up receivers or go high or a million other rule changes that make the hip tackle way better.
They have always been in the NFL, Theisman got his career crushed by one. It’s just always been called tackling until recently.
There's a certain amount of danger inherent to the game that can not be removed. This is part of that. It is unbannable without fundamentally changing the game.
@@AhStuttgartbut this tackle right here would be legal. It’s not an illegal hip drop. Look up what the actual illegal hip drops look like, they don’t look like this, they’re gruesome.
I didn't use to see this tackle growing up.
Do Hufanga injury next
My first three fantasy picks were Chubb, G Wilson, and Andrews...
These men are compensated handsomely for the risks they take by playing this game. Don't try to change the game to make it less dangerous.
The problem is also one of economics. When NFL loses it's star players to season ending injuries that's not good for anyone.
How the hell is he supposed to tackle him? Already can't horsecollar, and now you want to ban THIS type of tackle? Is he supposed to PUSH HIM FORWARD for more yards? THAT'S STUPID!
Go for the feet. Definitely intentional.Joe Theisman, Levon Bell. Horse collar similarities.