I have been sound desinging soooo much in the past month and Vital is amazing. Kicks: using a normal eq (I like neutron elements 3) try to make sure you don't have much going on around 12k and above. Also check that your fundemental frequency is not too much below 70hz. Also, try to use some bell eqs to look around the 300 hz area as that is where you can either make it super punchy or super ugly. I haven't done many snares but I recommend using your samples in songs and tweaking them to make them perfect as you listen in context with the rest of the song.
Pls keep the phase random at 0% I always keep monophonic sounds at retriggered phase if it doesn't use unison. For snappy sounds like synthesized drums, you SHOULD keep the phase random at 0% Vital and Surge allow you to do this.
Yep. Pretty much. But, it does lack on the filters and some effects. At the same time, it has some stuff that serum does not. For all that is absent, there are workarounds though
Thanks for the video but it would have been really cool if you could have explained why you were doing the steps that you did for the snare like you did for the kickdrum..while you were doing the synthesis and explain the sound design process especially while setting up the LFO envelope's time parameters and then applying them to the filters and the compression. I reckon it would be useful and handy to also check the waveform on an oscilloscope and a slightly bigger free spectrum analyzer plugin like SPAN to better see the frequencies. Any reason why you didn't place the EQ on the FX chain before applying distortion? But overall good content mate. :)
Oh... Sorry about that... I usually do the beginning portion of my vids in super detail, and speed after the middle of the portion, mainly because many ideas are taken from the first and try to avoid redundancy. I'll make sure to focus on the points that you have given in the comment. Thank you. And about the EQ. If I place place it before distortion, then all the audio frequencies will not reach distortion module. I wanted to distort it without loosing any of that, and then clean it later if necessary
Actually, this video was made in response to a request to sound design these sounds with surge. The thing with surge is, its not visual, which makes it harder for beginners to understand. Also, Vital's sound feels better. Just compare the FM synthesized sound
@@adk_studios I'm in 32-bit so I can't use Vital, sadly. Plus. With what is available to me rn, I absolutely love the control I have in Surge despite its lack of visuals.
@@adk_studios Yes thanks. Till now I used only samples and ready to use presets. But I see now that it is worth to make an effort and synthesize your own sound. Cheers
Another reason for retriggered phase on single voice oscillators Not only does it make your sound consistent, it makes it easier to mix. Here's a hundred tips. If you have 45 minutes to spare, pls watch this video: czcams.com/video/lTouH49Mz_I/video.html
I have been testing it out. To begin with, it has better automation than cakewalk. Makes it a better option for EDM. And also some neat little tricks that can only be found in waveform (in my opinion). For instance checkout 'rack' in waveform. Makes it proficient for interesting possibilities of layering. But too many crashes! It might be because of my system. I didn't loose any progress in the project though. But it takes away from the flow of the creative process. Waveform is a bit demanding on the system. Probably because of the UI, which I really like. To avoid that, I tried freezing the track. & that resulted in way too many inconsistent changes in the UI. Like freezing a track also froze its submix which it was contained in. (A submix is kinda like a folder & bus at the same time). The freeze synth option in Cakewalk is soooo much better. & I need it as my PC can't handle that many synths at once. If it was not for this reason, I might have used Waveform even more... Even though the automation in Cakewalk needs to be improved a lot, I'm sticking with Cakewalk...
You can either directly drag and drop it into the timeline. OR Install a sampler, add it to the project. Then drag and drop the sample into that. Then we can trigger those samples by adding MIDI in the piano roll. I prefer using Sitala for drums, and grace sampler for something that has pitch (like 808 or trappy hi hats)
I have been sound desinging soooo much in the past month and Vital is amazing.
Kicks: using a normal eq (I like neutron elements 3) try to make sure you don't have much going on around 12k and above. Also check that your fundemental frequency is not too much below 70hz. Also, try to use some bell eqs to look around the 300 hz area as that is where you can either make it super punchy or super ugly.
I haven't done many snares but I recommend using your samples in songs and tweaking them to make them perfect as you listen in context with the rest of the song.
Wow. I have always gone with the feel of the sound. Guess I should really start being aware of these numbers.
Thanks for the input bro...
@@adk_studios For sure, you should always go by the feel of the sound but I have noticed patterns recently
Pls keep the phase random at 0%
I always keep monophonic sounds at retriggered phase if it doesn't use unison. For snappy sounds like synthesized drums, you SHOULD keep the phase random at 0%
Vital and Surge allow you to do this.
Got it. 👍🏻
that's how you can differentiate the pros from the noobs.
Don't forget, vital is basically the free version of serum, so technically you can make any sound in vital that can be made in serum.
Yep. Pretty much.
But, it does lack on the filters and some effects.
At the same time, it has some stuff that serum does not.
For all that is absent, there are workarounds though
@@adk_studios *What does it lack regarding filters and effects?*
It doesn't have as many diverse filters as Serum, like reverb filter and all....
Also, effects sound a bit different
Nice video man.... Looking forward to bass & lead sound design in vital.
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Btw, congratulations for the headphones.
Aahh you noticed....
Thank you 😌
@@adk_studios which one?
And how do I notice your headphones?
Good tutorial...thanks!
We need more video like this ,your videos always great for me and everyone
Glad to know
Thanks for the video but it would have been really cool if you could have explained why you were doing the steps that you did for the snare like you did for the kickdrum..while you were doing the synthesis and explain the sound design process especially while setting up the LFO envelope's time parameters and then applying them to the filters and the compression. I reckon it would be useful and handy to also check the waveform on an oscilloscope and a slightly bigger free spectrum analyzer plugin like SPAN to better see the frequencies. Any reason why you didn't place the EQ on the FX chain before applying distortion? But overall good content mate. :)
Oh... Sorry about that... I usually do the beginning portion of my vids in super detail, and speed after the middle of the portion, mainly because many ideas are taken from the first and try to avoid redundancy. I'll make sure to focus on the points that you have given in the comment. Thank you.
And about the EQ. If I place place it before distortion, then all the audio frequencies will not reach distortion module. I wanted to distort it without loosing any of that, and then clean it later if necessary
great content my g!
Wise choice 😁
this has helped me so much! Thanks!
Happy to hear that ☺️
thanks man, your videos are amazing, keep it up!
Glad you like them!
I did this with Surge, too.
Actually, this video was made in response to a request to sound design these sounds with surge.
The thing with surge is, its not visual, which makes it harder for beginners to understand.
Also, Vital's sound feels better. Just compare the FM synthesized sound
@@adk_studios I'm in 32-bit so I can't use Vital, sadly.
Plus. With what is available to me rn, I absolutely love the control I have in Surge despite its lack of visuals.
im just started to get into sound design and this vid is super helpful :)) keep up the great work (subbed)
Flag you found it useful! ✌🏻
Thank You dear. I am just beginning with interesting in sound design. I like Your video :). Cheers
Glad it was helpful!
@@adk_studios Yes thanks. Till now I used only samples and ready to use presets. But I see now that it is worth to make an effort and synthesize your own sound. Cheers
Another reason for retriggered phase on single voice oscillators
Not only does it make your sound consistent, it makes it easier to mix.
Here's a hundred tips. If you have 45 minutes to spare, pls watch this video:
czcams.com/video/lTouH49Mz_I/video.html
Its a great snare💯🔥
Thank you
You're trying a change of tone, cool.
Variety variety 😉
@@adk_studios kollam kollam😁
Please make a viedo in wich you explain how to make 808 sanres
Not sure if I'll do it any time soon.
what is your opinion about waveform free
I have been testing it out.
To begin with, it has better automation than cakewalk. Makes it a better option for EDM. And also some neat little tricks that can only be found in waveform (in my opinion). For instance checkout 'rack' in waveform. Makes it proficient for interesting possibilities of layering.
But too many crashes! It might be because of my system. I didn't loose any progress in the project though. But it takes away from the flow of the creative process. Waveform is a bit demanding on the system. Probably because of the UI, which I really like.
To avoid that, I tried freezing the track. & that resulted in way too many inconsistent changes in the UI. Like freezing a track also froze its submix which it was contained in. (A submix is kinda like a folder & bus at the same time).
The freeze synth option in Cakewalk is soooo much better. & I need it as my PC can't handle that many synths at once.
If it was not for this reason, I might have used Waveform even more...
Even though the automation in Cakewalk needs to be improved a lot, I'm sticking with Cakewalk...
BPN stands for bypass notch
Oh. Thanks !!
Cool tutorial video!
In my opinion you can make dubstep with Vital :)
Definitely..!
HELLOO dude i want to ask that i am a guitarist not know how to play piano can u give me advise how can I start to make chords in piano roll
Watch the beginning of this video which deals with that...
czcams.com/video/Urh-QiEedHc/video.html
hey I've just downloaded a free drum kit. how do I use it on bandlab?
You can either directly drag and drop it into the timeline.
OR
Install a sampler, add it to the project. Then drag and drop the sample into that. Then we can trigger those samples by adding MIDI in the piano roll.
I prefer using Sitala for drums, and grace sampler for something that has pitch (like 808 or trappy hi hats)
@@adk_studios thanks a lot bro
Thanks so much man! Do u have a downloadable preset for these?
Oops! I forgot...!
You reminded me to do that. Thank you
Updated the description with the download links
Can u make a tutorial on how to create and layer progressive house supersaws like Martin garrix using vital?
May be...
I'll look into it
@@adk_studios thank u and nice vid!
"We need this B/P/N... I don't know what that stands for" Story of my life
😂
I understood it later....
Just in case you actually didn't know, its 'Band/Pass/Notch'.
the P actually stands for peak i think@@adk_studios
Sir. I find deficult in understanding sound design
It can get a bit of time to understand the basic concepts. Keep on experimenting
Make more sounds in vital.
Suggest me some sounds. I'll try to do a video, if and when I figure out them.
@@adk_studios for one of the sounds could you show how to link the modwheel to a pitch lfo i can't figure out how to make vibrato with vital
@@adk_studios future bass chord stacks, papa khan style basses
@@adk_studios Dubstep Growls. :)
@@adk_studios please do subbasses
B/P/N = band pass notch... but you already know this I'm sure.
So thats what it is...
Thanks man
@@adk_studios I just did this but in Vital... it's not hard at all. czcams.com/video/2pPfKlXMA7M/video.html
@@gepmrk
Aaahhh
Someone who watches AU5. A man of culture I see... 😃
Will have to try replicating that in Vital.