How I Use Remembering The Kanji To NEVER Study Kanji Readings Again!!
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- The second part in my Remembering the Kanji run of videos! Ever wonder how I use it? How I was able to NEVER study reading's of Kanji, and still able to pass the JLPT N3?? You don't need to run flash cards all day! There's an easier way! And this is mine ^_^
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absolutely! i've started learning japanese a few months ago, and i remember seeing the word 外国人 and my brain was like "outside country person? well sounds like a foreigner" and it was so rewarding for some reason
Gaijin?
Gaijin is 外人. Its like "foreigner". 外国人 is more like "foreign country person". A little bit more polite.
Thats awesome. It’s exciting to figure out.
@@gabrielisrafil7236 what's the pronunciation for the three kanji that means foreign country person?
It depends on context.
When they're written as separate words, the readings are:
外 - soto
国 - kuni
人 - hito
But when they're associated with another kanji, the readings usually change.
外 - gai
国 - koku
人 - jin, nin or some others in special cases.
So, 外国人, is read as gaikokujin.
You look a little like Quentin Tarantino
Yo, that's EXXXACTLY WHAT I THOUGHT!
PROBABLY TARANTINO'S SON, given that Tino is quite inspired by Japanese films like Battle Royals!
Haruka Kanata I wish haha he’s my favorite director! Also killer name Haruka xD
@@ThatsMyChad That's an Asian Kung Fu Generation OP from Naruto
He looks more like chandler from friends
Yeah, I cliked the video to say that
Love this video. For context, I'm in the middle of learning Japanese. I just got back from my first trip there and it took me about 5 months to get where I am. I have "memorized" 1360 kanji (no readings just the meanings of the characters) and this dude is 100% correct. You can ballpark all of the kanji and get a general meaning. The BEST part about the individual Kanji is that, if you know some of the radicals, you can ballpark THEIR meaning and guess the meaning before you even study!
I can't suggest the app Kanji Study enough. It helped me get where I am (currently studying N2 - N1 level Kanji). Please stick with it! The language is beautiful, the country even more so. Keep practicing no matter how many walls you hit and you will be speaking and reading Japanese in no time.
Hi, just downloaded this app and it looks nice. Why would you remember this over something like the RTK book or using a RTK anki deck? Thanks!
@@jordanb1830 hey Jordan, anki I use exclusively for vocabulary. I personally recommend this one for the decomposition option that's available for most Kanji. Learning Kanji is about understanding the radicals in them and making a story to fit the full picture, the decomps help with that. Outside of that the built in tests, sentence examples and the ability to help with hiragana, Katakana and radicals, you can't go wrong with it. It has everything but grammar built in.
@@Seiffer55 Thanks for the reply. I studied Japanese for two years in college and then spent a half a year in Japan in 2016 but haven't used it since, and I'm trying to get back into the swing of things but finding a routine has been difficult, and anki drives me nuts!
I've been going back through the two Genki books while using an Anki deck for Genki vocabulary. I'll now be adding this app for kanji and focusing on the meanings, while trying to pick up the readings through actual reading a little later on (I will start graded readers and simple manga after I get through the Genki books). Thanks!
@@jordanb1830 You are more than welcome. Don't be discouraged by not having used it for a while! You're actually lucky! Learning the language a second time through tends to be easier as you've already built the pathways you need.
In terms of a schedule, I have very severe ADHD, Japanese is the first thing I've ever really stuck with. I don't have a set time to study but every night before I would go to sleep I would study at least 20 kanji in the app. I've got 2300 down at this point so I go over about 100 a night just to make sure I'm retaining them. Anki and vocabulary... dear god kill me lol. I've found myself waking and thinking in Japanese and I've ultimately started narrating my day just to make sure I'm retaining everything,. Best of luck to you, I hope you stick with it! 頑張れよ！
Your comment was very motivating, thank you so much.
This is the video that convinced me to try out RTK, and after 5 months, I finally finished it today! Alongside my class that goes through Genki, RTK has made reading comprehension so much easier for me. Thank you so much for recommending it!
Loved that "copy, pasta"~
Coffee and pasta what a nice combination, kissaten style.
Chad, I love your shirt, man. Awesome videos. Great stuff
I do Anki core 2000 vocabulary and they do not have hiragana over the Kanji. So I am forced to learn it. But it is getting harder the further I get into the lessons. Now I printed out 1st grade Kanji and doing it like the 1st graders in Japan learned. It is helping me with Anki's lessons. And since I've been exposed to many Kanjis through Anki it is helping me with my Kanji study. I need both. I personally learn more if I write things down.
Makes sense Linda! :D Go get em!
I learn Kanji with music mainly. And rote memory. Im so used to hearing Japanese once I study a Kanji and learn it it usually sticks or clicks.
Basically I take a song I have listened to over and over for years now. Look up the lyrics and I learn both vocab and Kanji in one go by using anki and making flashcards for those Kanji in the song lyrics. I then open up a blank doc in open office/msword and as I am doing the flashcards for the Kanji, I type the romaji form and hiragana form.
I.E. lets say 3 of the 20 words in kanji for one part of a song are: 扉、迷宮、楽園 .
Once I see it on anki, first I do romaji form, then hiragana.
So until I feel I remember it, my doc will look something like this:
Part 1: tobira, mei-kyuu,ra-kuen, ra-kuen, ra-kuen, mei-kyuu, tobira, mei-kyuu... (me repeating certain ones means I havent felt confident in remembering it yet)
Part 2: とびら、めい・きゅう、ら・くえん、とびら、......etc
Basically like you said before in your vids. Just learning something from reading it doesnt really stick unless you execute it cognitively too. Think of two roads when learning Kanji, one is incoming, you reading it, and one is outgoing, you USING it. This method helps me remember it because I both read and learn it, and use it myself.
I also sometimes put it in katakana form or make ghetto sentences with the kanji im learning that way too to help make it stick. Even if they dont make sense, the point is that you're using what you learn.
And that's how I learn my kanji. RTK really helps you learn radicals and readings and familiarity with Kanji. But tbh I didnt like it very much. Especially since in the latter half of those books he just has you connect them yourself anyways. Like i.e
I didnt need to read all those to learn to connect stuff like 魔女(ma-jo) means witch, and thats because it uses ma魔 for like, magic and 女 for women. women + magic is.... a witch. Makes sense.
However knowing kanji readings is only a small part of learning to READ Kanji and Japanese imo. So to me, learning vocabulary is much more prominent than just learning or remembering kanji meanings. Thus I prefer a vocabulary method of learning Kanji. And as you learn vocab, i.e; you learn that kuroi(黒い) is black and that 黒 can read KURO . But if you learn the word 黒板; kokuban(blackboard) you also learn that 黒 can also be read as KOKU. Learning through vocab teaches you words and kanji readings, much better than just grinding Kanji and meanings. In my opinion.
Glad I found this channel. You have intuitive vids. I want to be able to pass N2 in a yearish so I can apply to college and stuff over there so... just thought Id share my method and hope it helps someone.
Thank you for your comment, I am interested in learning Japanese and am looking for a method that will work best for me
Really helpful comment I think I'll do that as great complement of RTK
When you said breed and place I honestly thought it was going to be brothel.
LOL! I mean yeah that works too :P
Chad Zimmerman i thought home tbh
You never know, it might have two to perhaps 3 readings depending on context
Yatsuba goes to a brothel. Oh dear.
Dude, your explanation of the Koneko Kanji made a hell of a lot of sense.
I have the Heisig book, but yet to make a good start on it. Your explanation definitely made sense. :)
I hope so! I wasn't sure if I was able to get it across well!
I like that you speak clearly and informatively. You don't beat around the bush. Straight to the point. That is how videos should be. I really hope you end up getting more Subscribers and making it big. Would love to see you up there with the rest, because you put a lot of effort in to what you are passionate about.
Keep it up man. Really awesome stuff.
What’s the best way to actually lear the readings of the kanji in rtk?
I didn't know that Quentin Tarantino make video on CZcams...
i'm in health care and while studying medical terminology, it is so much easier to learn medical terminology in Japanese than in English, for just the reasons you mentioned. Like 糖尿病 for diabetes. Sugar-urine-disease. How simple is that.
Yeah, I did Heisig's Vol1 and reckon it's like priming a wall before you paint it. Now, about a year and half later, I've using a combination of Wanikani and reading Star Wars books in Japanese. The great thing about reading Star Wars (for me) is that I know exactly what's happening the whole time (I think linguists probably call that "a schema") ... and with the furigana by the kanji, I'm quickly using inference to get those "aaaahhh ... I see how that works" moments :-) In answer to your question about how long I've been going at the kanji ... it's now 18 months since I started - and I know the readings to about a thousand kanji, three and half thousand vocabulary words. I'm pretty happy with that - especially as I'm learning shodou and taking the kanken tests along the way. I reckon I'll be able to read newspapers in just over a year.
Where get Star Wars books in Japanese and...more importantly....where get AUDIOBOOKS of Japanese Star Wars books ??
Hi!:> Great vid man, I was just thinking about this today ahaha. I had a question though: I read something today where someone actually suggested ( It mightve been Heisig himself I cant remember ) NOT rewriting kanji over and over again to help supplement your RTK memorization. They suggested to instead use flash cards to drill them in. From your experience, which did u prefer?
I never once did writing of kanji. I can't imagine when in the 21st century that you'd ever need to write kanji. I only ever used smart flash cards with the system and I'm glad I did. I can still write all the kanji but haven't wasted time.
I'm gonna use RTK to start recognizing kanji with meanings but when it comes to being able to pronounce the readings and know the actual meaning for sure, things are a bit more confusing to me.
Yeah RTK isn't really the source for you to learn that in my experience. It's usually a lot more helpful to use RTK just to get you into the habit of separating similar kanji from each other and having them get a singular basic meaning, and then using your normal vocabulary method (be it a list or textbook or however you're going about it) to then connect what you learned in RTK to the vocab you're intaking.
Awesome video! Thanks a lot! I got myself the pdf as per your previous video
Random question: Do you speak (or have you tried to learn) any other language?
Well, before I ever tried to learn Japanese I took about 4 years of Spanish, and hardly remember it. Did about 2 years of french and can only remember a few words. I did ASL after that but couldn't get past just spelling words. So I'd say no :P
However I'm in grad school currently, and a requirement for graduation from my program is to have a reading fluency in Greek and Hebrew, so I'll know 4 languages by around 2020 hopefully!
Awesome!
Greek and Hebrew? That´s random tho haha
I'm in a religious studies field so they require you read the book in the original language :P So yeah they require you to be a polyglot for graduation. haha Does seem kinda random, huh?
Ah, I see! My gf studied Theology and she also had to learn Latin and Hebrew (this in Germany).
Awesome channel! Thanks for answering! I´m following most of your suggestions (except I´ll be going to Genkijacs in Tokyo, not Fukuoka)
Hi there, great video. I am a 45 year old Australian and I am going to Japan next year and study for a year. I lived there over 20 years ago for 2 years but did not really learn much Japanese at all! Can you tell me where I can get Japanese shows, manga with Japanese subtitles? Very hard to find...
I just did a video on daiweeb! they have anime with Japanese subtitles! Animelon is another one but it stutters like crazy for me. Netflix if it's a Japnese series usually has Japanese subtitle options as well!
I haven't been studying for too long. I've stuck to textbooks and a workbook and it helps me. I have a textbook that's specifically for grammar which is super nice. And of course, I use Heisig's. And also, that discord call would be pretty lit.
Come hang out on Saturday! I always do a discord hang out after the live stream!
ラーメン = ramen ?
Nice video, I guess I'll give manga a shot.
Best of luck, Omega!
I'm using Wanikani to learn kanji. When reading text in the first couple lessons in Genki I don't know most of the kanji's meaning or reading, but over time I remember how they look. I'm just unsure whether or not Wanikani is worth 10$/month...
Hm, I've never used it so I'm not sure? I'll pick it up next month and give it a shot!
Very late on this but ankinet / ankiDroid jas revised wanikani deck that includes all 60 levels for free and still allows radicals, kanji, vocabulary as well as inputting answers in text box both for meanings AND writings.
For writings you'll have to setup your keyboard language to accept japanese since anki won't automatically translate roumaji into 仮名.
Having said that, it's super easy to do, I'm on MS SwiftKey keyboard for my phone and going into its settings allows me to add the japanese language and go with qwerty input, and it works perfectly fine.
Ps it's still nice to sub for a month at least if you find wanikani useful this way since they did do a ton of work in getting this all setup
I just downloaded the pdf version of this.. may get the book if I stick to it. Also got the memrise deck as well. The only issue is It doesn't tell you the on yomi or kun yomi...
So I'm a bit up in the air about this..
I thought of getting wanikani as well for this. But I looked at an app called Obenkyo and it's got both. And it's free.
However. I'll see how I go with finishing RTK. Then I'll see if I can remember them..
Kanji so hard to remember.
E Bro so this book is actually a series, the first book only gives meanings, and the second book goes for readings. But most people just use the first book to expedite the reading process. Best of luck!
I don't know exactly how I learn kanji. Somehow I learned a lot of basic kanji within 2 days. I think I'm a visual learner. It's strange but I sometimes see kana in my head when I speak Japanese. Weird, right?
I learned English to a great extent by regularly being exposed to English on YT. Weird stuff can just happen *shrug*
@@kolia355 I'm the same with German. I'm not fluent but I learn something new everyday. Sometimes things just click and make sense all of a sudden.
どれくらい漢字を覚えているんですか？ヘイシングメソッドはいいですか？日本語話しているビデオある？
今１４００くらい覚えてきた。思うに英語は自分の母国語だったらいいですよ。そして僕が日本語を話したベデオがありますが、CZcamsにたくさんcopyright strikeをもらってしまいましたからプライベットになりましたよ。笑
1400ですか！すごいですね！わたしは日本人なので、日本語を勉強している人が漢字をどうやって覚えるのかが分からなくて動画見させてもらいました。
me when 大学 cause i was like "so, big study? what does that mea- UNIVERSITY"
found this video while im searching method for remembering kanji. there are many ways haha i got confused. Maybe for a while i use my own ways. Learning from texbooks and kanji no jisho. Ganbarimasssuu
I'm so confused about the beggining. Why did you chefs kiss at 戦争 written in red paint lmao.
It sounds like Remembering the Kanji helps learners with nearly the equivalent on greek/latin root words for English (and similar languages). I'll eventually pick up the book. Probably this summer after schools out. The way I have studied was to dive into the deep end. I set up my anki deck to have cards with only the kanji reading, and the answer with furigana on the back side. I found I had to lower the amount of new cards daily over the default, and it takes me longer to learn vocabulary than my peers, but i am far beyond them in kanji reading ability. I have found that learning the kanji with the words is very tough, but i actually learn the words vs just cramming enough for a test. I also have been starting to decipher the nuance on how the kanji reading change based on the context and how their paired with other Kanji. I would recommend my method to those who really want to learn Kanji, but i also know it would be too much for some people (particularly non visual learners) and could cause unnecessary frustration if you can't move at your own pace (such as in a school environment).
I certainly couldn't have done that to start! haha but I likewise was also far behind me class in kanji reading ability but with this method! I suppose as long as you're passionate you'll find a way to get things to work out ^_^
When you say watch anime with Japanese subtitles on.. Do you mean raw anime with Japanese subs or English dubbed anime with Japanese subs?
Japanese audio, Japanese subtitles!
@@ThatsMyChad thank you for replying. Wow haha I'm still a beginner but that kind of makes sense. ありがとう
@@ailsaturner1251 A lot of the people who find my channel start as a beginner. Nice thing is they rarely stay there :) Idk how much help Japanese subtitles on Japanese audio will help a complete beginner, but once you have a basis in the language, making that switch is pretty essential. Best of luck Ailsa!
Sounds so simple in theory!
@anglekan It doesn't fall apart if you understand that 漢字 are just Chinese characters that Japanese words are written with, rather than Japanese words themselves, and that instead of learning a grand 3k different characters, you "only" need to know 30k different words to be able to read books in Japanese (not that different from any major language, really).
Have you heard of AJATT?
I know this is not directed to me, but I'm quite interested with AJATT but I don't understand how it works, would you mind explaining it? 😅
3:33 studying with "Harvest moon" taught me that one just the other day
4:34 Yes I also eat pasta whilst studying kanji
That pasta better be ramen, lad...
you should do a video on your method of word/hiragana learning because I'm having a much rougher time then kanji. After my quizes I forget like all of the vocabulary.
Do you use a spaced repetition system like Anki or Memrise?
I have a couple of times. all I know is that one second I have it and like a week or two later our instructor gives us a reading and I have to keep looking up words and stuff. also when trying to do the homework in the genki workbook.
That's called language learning my friend haha you're gonna forget words :P That's why you never stop going over words and reviewing. I still review genki book one words and I'll find I forgot a piece of really basic grammar or a super common word even now! The key is to just power through. I mean, I forgot words in English all the time? No one learns a word and reviews it a few times and NEVER forgets it.
Yea I just gotta start going over all the chapters again cause finals are approaching quickly
Kanji, hiragana, katakana, I'm a Japanese who recently realized that it's a troublesome language.
Yeah it can be bothersome that’s for sure 😅
Using RTK and im on kanji 1994. So close to done. Part 2 is next:D
how was it?
@@eijiyuyama7428 have you tried it? Otherwise I can tell you how my journey was so far (I'm around 1400)
@@SonGoku-tz9vt didnt do it. Its really not that worth it imo
@@SonGoku-tz9vt hey ik it’s been a year but are you still using rtk? Im at 300+kanji and was wondering if it actually helps or something
Taking Elementary I Japanese next Fall so I'm nowhere near even starting to learn Kanji. 😅
You'll really enjoy it man! Such a fun language!
The Anime Dude Good luck! ヽ(´▽｀)/It really is a beautiful language. You could start practicing with Duolingo
The Anime Dude ..I'm learning now. The first few days are frustrating when you're first learning all the hiragana and katakana characters. But stick through it and hang tough because once you learn the characters you start to naturally read!! And that's when the language opens up and becomes so much fun! Before you know it you'll be saying things in Japanese to yourself. You'll go grab a plate for your dinner and you'll say to yourself "osara" which means plate.. and then you'll grab vegetables to put on the plate and you'll say "yasai" which means vegetables.. and before you know it you'll be saying sentences and thinking in Japanese! Best of luck!!!
The Anime Dude i started with kanji
duolingo is very good so is memrise
I tried to learn Japanese with Duolingo. Hiragana was a breeze with it, Katakana also wan't too difficult. But learning Kanji with that app is a real chore. As I am just interested in the language and Duolingo was the easiest way to start, I startedt learning. But I stopped as soon as a lot of Kanji started to appear and now I am just happy when I watch a video about Japan and can read some text that appears in the background somewhere.
Kanji tends to be a make or break for people for sure. A lot of people are totally down to just learn kana and that's cool ^_^ But if you're willing to tread through 2,000 kanji then you're probably crazy and good for you as well haha
Learn the kanji easily with Wanikani, first 3 levels free, it's amazing!
5:20 can u tell us what book ?
It changes depending on what level I was. At that time I believe I was in an Integrated Approach to Intermediate Japanese? Currently I use JLPT N1 word lists, and A Dictionary of Intermediate Japanese for grammar. It's hard finding upper intermediate/advanced textbooks so you have to use more native materials as opposed to textbooks and set courses.
Chad Zimmerman thank you so much
Someone else who loves Japan and BSG!
Dominic London you know it!
You look like a young tarantino hahaha
I get this so much haha
not even gonna question the intro
I don't recommend it.
Chad Zimmerman what do you think of my channel I have been improving because of you! =^_^=
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w8, Didn't i reccomend to you Yotsubato? i have a feeling i did.
Not quite, I first learned about it after my first trip in Japan when my buddy Paul told me it's one of the best beginner ones to read! He's the reason I bought the full series ^_^
Nice idea to help people learning kanji. I myself always found actually learning them by book way faster, but then again, that's just me ^^
I should note (although I'm sure others already did as it's obvious) - you mispronounce "cat":
It's pronounced "ne-ko" (same pace for all syllables). Your pronunciation would be true if it were written ねっこ (nekko), but of course correct is ねこ.
Important since ねっこ means "tree stump" (or in some cases -root).
Hey man I'll be the last person to tell you there's only one way to learn kanji! haha I'm using a book to review right now actually, the 日本語総まとめ N2 and N3 kanji books since I take the N2 in December! Great resource if you haven't checked it out.
Nice, thanks - in fact I never heard of it. I only began with the みんなの日本語 (minna no nihongo). I bought the first 3 "levels" (books series 1-3) in Japan, but of course they don't cover all of the N3 kanji and vocabulary (unrelated to the JLPT after all) - but they do contain all the grammar. Besides that I used the typical online vocabulary and kanji list you can download for the tests.
But to be honest, I stopped learning Japanese from books after taking the N3 a few years back - so my kanji skills are severely degraded (considering I could write around 2500 by the time of the N3 test) - now I can only read around 1500, maybe 2000, but that's all that's left.
In that regard, as you live in Japan you probably aren't the right person to ask since you have kanji around you 24/7 - but do you still remember kanji you haven't read in like 2 years?
Since of course, as I don't regularly read kanji, that's the biggest problem (only some in anime, but these are of course fairly low level in average and very very few to begin with).
So I would really like to know if your method of learning kanji lets you remember them for a longer period when compared to learning them strictly by book.
Oh and I also have the problem you mentioned of looking up kanji when reading light novels.
Really quite annoying to be honest, especially since I like scifi and fantasy novels and they are just loaded with scientific terms I have never come across before (in kanji) (or sometimes even by itself!).
And to make it worse, even my favorite PC software "WaKan" lacks a lot of these words in kanji, meaning that I have no idea what some words even mean.
I just wish they'd use more furigana - but of course, in seinen light novels that's probably never gonna happen :D
Why does this dude look like the forgotten Jonas Brother
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if ur gonna make a video about kanji can u pls pronounce it correctly and not like the chinese porridge
chris naaaahhhh
I've been trying to read the first Yotsuba and so far she seems like the world's biggest brat which she can't be blamed for as her father seems like the most careless parent. Perhaps it's a cultural thing, perhaps that kind of behaviour is 'cute' in Japan? Also as a beginner I am struggling with the very informal language. Soldiering on however.
"When you are an 11 year old learning japanese for technically no reason."😂
rida-e- fatima hanan learning new languages is great for your mind （＾ｖ＾) if you keep improving, you'll be proud of yourself. がんばってね！
Basically me, but I’m just a little older.
Wow 13 now but your future self would literally thank you and it is a good flex lol also ur bilingual which can be good for jobs
rxd You are fluent now? If so, could I ask how difficult it was/how long it took?
Sae Rin No I started having interest in learning the language beginning of 2020. I procrastinated with hiragana and katakana bc I didn’t really think I wanted to invest time in Japanese. But I’ve learned both surprisingly easy and when quarantine started, that’s when I really got serious. I’ve memorized hiragana-katakana-radicals (building blocks of kanji)- and right now I’m learning all 2000 kanji’s before I move onto vocabs and grammar. After all that I will learn to read/speak/listen. Kanji will be slow but it will help u progress faster later on. Do you need guide on where to start?
Before I watch the video: this guy looks exactly like Christian Nielsen.
I don't think I know him? What is he famous for?
@@ThatsMyChad He has a calisthenics channel.
@@guyvota7332 I do love me some training!
Yeah definitly the best way to learn kanji. I don't get all these people who are learning all the readings for each kanji and telling anyone else about it and that it's the right way. You learned it in the hard way, yeah fine your problem, but don't try to force everyone else to do a hard long taking way.
Step 1: Learn Kanji through remembering the kanji
Step 2: learn japanese vocabulary and use of these kanji within context
Step 3: Profit!
No ??? Step, just Profit.
Learning the readings is just a big waste of time. Of course you can get good with this way, but it will take waaaay longer and is frustrating xd
カルマ [Karma] everyone thinks they’re an expert and found the one single best way to do it :p it’s fine. I was there at one point too. Now I’m just glad I found one way that works because I’ve tried lots of ways that don’t xD
And i don't get it why they don't look and see the results, i mean wouldn't that be enough to convience someone for a method?
What i mean: Sometimes there are people who are fluent in japanese and really good. They can show it and proof it. Now when they tell other people about the method they used, the other people (non-fluent) say ''No, no, no, this method doesn't work, you have to do it in THIS way!''
This sounds stupid right? xD
I mean the method from the fluent person clearly did something better than the person of the non fluent person, but still the non fluent person trys to convience everyone that only their method works and that it's the only way.
It's just people's egos, man :P Everyone thinks they have the end all answer, and if you didn't draw the same conclusions you must be wrong
Yep^^
People should just learn to be open to other ideas and to look how people who are already at the goal have reached it.
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