This was soo painful to watch!! Definitely looked tail heavy. I honestly was hoping he'd go in for the long approach. I hope it was repairable. Gorgeous with a solid build quality.
A friend of mine flew Corsairs during The War. Saw lots of combat action (and of course he never crashed.) He was aviation royalty. Died a while back after a very long and amazing life. Now he's flying one in heaven.
I think I know what happened. The plane was coming in too slow on approach and the plane began to stall. Then the pilot added throttle too quickly and the sudden torque of the engine caused the plane to yaw and crash.
@@zz-nc5kx practice and judgement. any wise pilot will experiment with their plane at height to learn the stall characteristics - speed, pitch, does it drop a wing etc.
Only problem with this theory is the fact a torque roll will make the plane roll left not right. This is a classic case of slowing too much on approach and than the dreaded tip stall.
Oh shit, I know to well how this feels. Spent a whole winter building an advanced 4 channel glider just to see the wing broke up during the rubberwire lift off. It was put on the loft and stayed there till we emty the house for sale years ago. Never looked back. Hope this guy fixed his amazing plane.
The guy even gives the advice that "you gotta fly it in" which to experienced pilots means, keep the revs and speed up and use rolling friction to slow it down once on the ground
He clearly had no flaps yet full left aileron input just after the plane started it's wing-tip stall to the right ... therefore, no radio problem. On landing, you've got to fly these planes with some power on until the ground cushion effect has a chance to come into play ... usually two to three feet off the ground. Then cut all power and let it settle in. If deadstick, you've GOT to keep the nose down to maintain airspeed. Nose up = stall. Nose down= stretched glide path. Most likely the engine was set too lean when it was on the ground which caused it to lean out and loose power at speed. The engine should be running a bit rich on the tarmac. And of course, at 2:30, he also raised the nose to try to stretch his glide. That's what led to the tip stall. Always fatal. A planes altitude is controlled with power ... speed is controlled by the elevator. Basics of landing. Counter intuitive, but an aerodynamic fact. Still a shame to lose such a nice bird.
Nice tips bro, lot of sense.... But sometime we panic when we dont have the altitude to allow for that nose drop lool.... When my bird ran out of power at low altitude and into a cliff i pulled up... Making matters even worse...
there is NO shame in making a mistake.... however , I bet next time he brings it in with 20% throttle and lets the wheels slow her down.... man that hurts
I knew this was going to be a rookie mistake when I saw him taxiing without any elevator to hold the tail down.... The CG was probably wrong and looked like he was trying to land with the wind, as it started to stall he gave it throttle which torque rolled to the stalled wing side and down she went... Too bad such a nice plane had to get trashed by inexperience, been there done that myself... just not on anything more than $400.
Pretty cool. Entered a snap roll on landing just like the real "ensign eliminator". This is one of the reasons the USN refused the Corsair as a carrier bird at first.
Just saw this vid...and my heart was poundind f... fast from the moment i read the title / description. Then the crash came and it hurt me as if it was mine. Truly sorry for your loss. 😭 I've lost a few also. Hurts more in your heart and pride than your wallet.
I have been up in gliders, hot air balloons, B-17 " Sentimental Journey", cessnas, you name it.....but I gotta say...I admire all of you guys for what you do with these little birds......it amazes me the knowledge you all have on the very basics of flight..........you may play with small craft....but you all are professionals. Keep doing what you do......
This is a lot but it's something typed up for a fellow pilot: In my pre-teen years I built small, balsa wood model planes...0.49 engines, flat wing. My uncle was flying the F-4 Phantom in Nam at the time but he also flew the P-51 in air-to-air combat and bombing missions starting in the late 40's. The P-51 was and still is my favorite. It was my first "Built-up" wing model I ever built. Boy....what a difference an actual "foiled wing" made!....Taught me a lot about what flies and what struggles to fly. By the time I was 14-15 I was building 60" wing RC, powered planes. (much later gliders) My uncle retired in 1976. He knew I loved airplanes and later I took up golf....both of which were his 2 favorite activities. In 1980 (I was 21) he arranged for me to go up in Art Scholl's Pitt's Special, not with Art but with the only other guy (Ken, I think) allowed to fly his planes. It was my first time ever air-born. I was so excited I never even thought to be nervous or afraid...I knew this planes capabilities. Ken (after demonstrating them once) let my do rolls and loops (easy) but also Cuban 8's, Hammer head's...etc. Outside maneuvers were much more strenuous than I thought. A few years later my uncle took me flying in his Decathlon (he purchased to fly until he finished building his RV-4) and golfing once a week. After some pretty big earthquakes here they moved to Las Vegas.....he died at 85 in 2012. I miss him a LOT but those memories...... In 2015 I decided to get my pilots license....I took "flying" lessons first instead of ground school (for obvious reasons) and got to where I could solo....I had 4 kids and it was taking up a lot of my free time and $$$ so I put it on the shelf....for now. More about my uncle if you're interested: supersabresociety.com/biography/ewald-g-kruggel/
Ummm.....don't take off or land WITH THE WIND !! This guy did both. We all make mistakes. Just wish it hadn't been with such a beautiful plane. Brave of you to post your mistake for the rest of us to learn by. Myself, I would have destroyed this evidence. Lol
I had the same thing happen with a small er scale version. That plane has a crazy inner wing stall characteristic because of the gull-wing. You really need to keep up the approach speed or you snap roll approach stall....Really expensive slow approach!!
No forward motion --> no airflow over the wing No airflow over wing --> No lift No lift --> No fly No fly --> plane goes into the ground.... a moment of silence for what looked like a beautiful model. The engine sounded really good hopefully it was not damaged
She almost stalled/crashes the fist time at 2:01. on final, dont let wind get under your left wingtip (with this crosswind) keep it down, and keep the nose down. now the right wing stalled and it crashed. in windy condition give it some overspeed on final. So sad. Verry beautifull plane. Before flying do pre flight check, when on downwind do your pre landing checks. like gear down etc.
I had the same problem with a large scale Corsair. When he first took off engine was fine. Once he turned downwind the engine was shutting down. The plane slowed down and he made an attempt for the runway. The engine came back to life and his gear wasn't all the way down so he decided to go around. Once the plane got back up to speed the engine died again. Corsair cowlings have a tendency to build pressure inside the cowl. Too much air coming in and not enough getting out. The metering valve on the carb senses this as lower altitude and dumps a bunch of fuel in the carb flooding the engine. When the plane slowed down the pressure dropped and the engine was able to recover.
The full sized Corsair had this problem when it first started aircraft carrier landings. A small stall strip was added to the leading edge of the starboard wing, outboard of the guns. This model was stalling above the tree line so no ground effect way up there. The flaps are huge and the wheel strut covers are quite large too, all of which needs power to overcome. If you look at a lot of large r/c model crash videos you'll see that full flaps on landing are many times fatal. I've had problems with the elevator being blanked out by all this stuff hanging down, making pitch control almost impossible. Models would probably last longer by using 40 degrees of flap on landings. Leave full flaps for static judging on the ground. Remember, a 35 lb. model is way easier to slow down than a 8,000 lb. full sized fighter aircraft.
Im an upset pilot maneuvering trainer for years now. A trick to avoid stalling when slow is like this: 1-Put the hands in a PUSH POSITION (Both hands the stick and throttle hand too). Never put them in PULL POSITION. If you put them in Pull Position you will pull when nervous (without noticing it most times). Practice that first. Also do LEAN forward a bit when pushing down or adding power, Never step back or lean back. What your body does, your hands will follow. Just my 2c. That teaching method can be used on the real airplanes too.
E muito triste ver um modelo tao bonito terminar dessa maneira. O que realmente importa é que o homem mao desiste dos sonhos, dificuldade existem para serem superadas. Siga adiante sempre. Saudações e minha admiração. 🇧🇷
Stalled. Lots of power. But he tried to float that approach like it was a high wing trainer. He wasn’t ready for the fast sink rate with power off. Then tip stalled so fast there was no recovering from that.
Next time he must make sure to fly at proper speed since those models don't like slow flying... Also such power and heavy motor stuff at full acceleration will make too much torque for the airplane to handle...
Nice plane. You did what you could, too bad it crashed. Knowing the plane was tail heavy, the pilot did the right thing in lower the landing gear to help try and correct the problem. Hope ypu get it flying again.
It looked great at the take-off. Didn't seem to pitch up as if it was tail heavy. Then the tail wanted to drop at 1:53 and onward, especially with the gear up - and back. With the gear back down it got a bit better until he descended with the power back and the nose was fairly level. A little bit of power in the last 5-6 seconds may have saved it. But maybe not - who knows?
Flying slow and dirty on the edge of stall of the entire time, that and not extending his down wind leg long enough to set up for a controlled approach.
hard to tell looking at just a video , but based on way it lifted off and position of elevator that looked very tail heaving. pilot also looks to be flying it like a much lighter wing loaded foamy compounding the problem. thanks for sharing.
That's bad luck,I think a number of things contributed to this crash but I would say the main one would be the blustery conditions and those trees causing turbulence close to the ground,you could see the wind sock swing around to the other direction just before the attempted landing,its a terrible thing to see but I'm sure it could be repaired easily enough though,thanx for posting the vid
RC airplanes are like having a car chasing dog. You don’t want to get too attached to them. You can’t wallow along that slow with a big warbird. And I agree, it needed another look at where the CG was at.
Look at the direction of the dust from his crash. He was landing into the wind. Warbirds this size need full flaps and power for stability to land. But first, he needed 2-3 mistakes high to trim it out and then force stall it. Expensive lesson.
Yeah man, it seems crazy. I don't build though, I'm just a student pilot, but I may start soon building, I have my eye on the 737 Hana, but indeed this is a good lesson, and something I'll keep in mind while working.
yes most likely he lost to much air speed however, IMO i think it was a combintation of airspeed and the radio wasn't keeping up. the "stall" looked a little sharp for just slow speed. but like james said we weren't there.
So sorry as it was a beautiful model. The first sign of the difficult flight characteristics happened on the low pass prior to the final approach. The aircraft appeared to flounder (wings rocking, turbulent, nose level or slightly pitched up) suggesting it needs a lot of attention to angle of attack and speed to fly well. In hindsight, making it more nose heavy might have helped a little. It looked very difficult to fly. I dont think I would have faired any better had I been the pilot
he already had a very high angle of attack on approach, as if he was flying at near stall speed all the way down to the ground, then, he realized he needed to add power, but in doing so, the engine's torque overpowered what little lift the wings had as well as the rudder had causing the right wing and rudder to stall (discontinued airflow over the control surfaces) causing sudden yawing and snap roll which would have progressed into a flat spin, but alas, the ground rushed up before it reached that stage of the stall.
Yikes! That plane is awesome looking and sounding. The guy at the end of the video took the words right out of my mouth... "Oh no, oh sh**, bloody hell!"
I feel this plane was tail heavy, even with the gear down. Note the way it clawed for altitude on take off. More importantly, when the gear retracted, the plane became less stable. The gear retracts to the rear, shifting the CG even more rearward. A stall under those circumstances will likely be sudden and violent. Such a nice plane. I am so sorry.
correct explaination...i agree with you...too much up the elevator when it goes slow..., this is not tail heavy.....but in experience and panic pilot...
Agreed, I was warned of aileron's because they function independently for rolling. Thats what this plane looked like, it would have done a roll if it had altitude. One slip of the wrist and it's over. I'm not ready for that, still on rudder and elevator for now, works good enough. So much to remember when you start adding accessories. Flaps are better for breaking when landing. I like that Idea better. I would have vomited if that were my plane. A good lesson to all for posting it.
You'll be happy to know that he has just about finished another corsair. Problem was the motor and another corsair owner here with the same Moki motor had the same issues and had to belly land too. So stay tuned for the next corsair flight.!!
@mford739 yea i here yea,now that you say that, it did look a bit AFT heavy! Raptor was saying the engine not running correctly! There is a saying about tail heavy planes...
Someone mentioned it torque rolled, that would have gone in left. Usually it would stall left due to multiple torque effects. He did seem to have some up elevator on the ground (someone mentioned the lack thereof). I think full up is usually one centimeter if set up right. He clearly uses too much up on takeoff since it takes off in an unscale (ridiculously short) ground roll. Anyone notice the windsock! I don't think I would takeoff a $10,000 airplane downwind! He survived that due to enormous power. Well, sad to see, and I hope he doesn't give up. Too much airplane for him at this point though...more practice on a smaller one.....
If your about to tip stall you will notice the planes not reacting real fast to your commands up the speed alittle more to you feel the plane responding to your output .Its a tricky plane to fly for beginners
It's always easy to comment after the event. Despite the tail heaviness, the start of the approach looked promising. You dropped the nose to keep the air speed up but then you levelled too high, not enough power, lost the air speed and tip stalled. Gee, your elevator must've been so sensitive. That's the highest tip stall I've seen so far. It usually happens lot lower. Sorry about your loss mate.
Classic mistakes hopefully you won’t repeat. A lot of work to repair hopefully lesson learned. Down wind landing, slow speed, keeping the nose down and maybe checking you have some wash out on the tips and it’s equal might help. No powering up at low level and zero speed, lots to not repeat.
This was soo painful to watch!! Definitely looked tail heavy. I honestly was hoping he'd go in for the long approach. I hope it was repairable. Gorgeous with a solid build quality.
A friend of mine flew Corsairs during The War. Saw lots of combat action (and of course he never crashed.) He was aviation royalty. Died a while back after a very long and amazing life. Now he's flying one in heaven.
God bless your friend, Sir
@@sqd37l Same god that refuses to ban childhood cancer
@@SunofYork you are correct
Beautiful Corsair! I know the amount of time and money that is involved building a plane of that size. My heart goes out to the pilot...
I got into the hobby awhile back and it really gets addictive, lol.
I think I know what happened. The plane was coming in too slow on approach and the plane began to stall. Then the pilot added throttle too quickly and the sudden torque of the engine caused the plane to yaw and crash.
I think you are right. I’ve always wondered how r/c pilots manage not to stall on landing approach.
it has nothing to do with throttle. simple wing stall.
@@zz-nc5kx practice and judgement. any wise pilot will experiment with their plane at height to learn the stall characteristics - speed, pitch, does it drop a wing etc.
@@ScottPankhurstAccounting for the speed of sound, you can hear him add power and torque roll it in.
Only problem with this theory is the fact a torque roll will make the plane roll left not right. This is a classic case of slowing too much on approach and than the dreaded tip stall.
Oh shit, I know to well how this feels. Spent a whole winter building an advanced 4 channel glider just to see the wing broke up during the rubberwire lift off. It was put on the loft and stayed there till we emty the house for sale years ago. Never looked back. Hope this guy fixed his amazing plane.
The guy even gives the advice that "you gotta fly it in" which to experienced pilots means, keep the revs and speed up and use rolling friction to slow it down once on the ground
The working landing gear is extremely impressive. Unfortunate loss. That engine sounded like it was running perfect too!
looked a bit tail heavy but the real problem was getting way to slow on landing. Was a classic stall due to getting to slow.
It has been said before,nose heavy planes fly poorly,tail heavy planes fly once.
Well repeated, so true and they don't stretch very far on approach especially with large props.
My condolences to the pilot and owner, I wish I was up at the field to see such a beautiful plane
I 've got this plane too and I can say it's one of the most dificult planes to fly , when the planes stalls it's practically imposible to retrive it
Think kinda looked tail heavy? Condolences to the owner, hope his wife didn't make him sleep with the dog for a month after that!
He clearly had no flaps yet full left aileron input just after the plane started it's wing-tip stall to the right ... therefore, no radio problem. On landing, you've got to fly these planes with some power on until the ground cushion effect has a chance to come into play ... usually two to three feet off the ground. Then cut all power and let it settle in. If deadstick, you've GOT to keep the nose down to maintain airspeed. Nose up = stall. Nose down= stretched glide path. Most likely the engine was set too lean when it was on the ground which caused it to lean out and loose power at speed. The engine should be running a bit rich on the tarmac. And of course, at 2:30, he also raised the nose to try to stretch his glide. That's what led to the tip stall. Always fatal. A planes altitude is controlled with power ... speed is controlled by the elevator. Basics of landing. Counter intuitive, but an aerodynamic fact. Still a shame to lose such a nice bird.
Nice tips bro, lot of sense.... But sometime we panic when we dont have the altitude to allow for that nose drop lool.... When my bird ran out of power at low altitude and into a cliff i pulled up... Making matters even worse...
there is NO shame in making a mistake.... however , I bet next time he brings it in with 20% throttle and lets the wheels slow her down.... man that hurts
Lool sure he wont be stalling in the near future,tht bird is to sweet to be in bits
Oh my God im so sorry for your loss.
Man thats some huge awsome plane.
Hope u got it repaired and in the air again.
I knew this was going to be a rookie mistake when I saw him taxiing without any elevator to hold the tail down.... The CG was probably wrong and looked like he was trying to land with the wind, as it started to stall he gave it throttle which torque rolled to the stalled wing side and down she went... Too bad such a nice plane had to get trashed by inexperience, been there done that myself... just not on anything more than $400.
Pretty cool. Entered a snap roll on landing just like the real "ensign eliminator". This is one of the reasons the USN refused the Corsair as a carrier bird at first.
Just saw this vid...and my heart was poundind f... fast from the moment i read the title / description. Then the crash came and it hurt me as if it was mine. Truly sorry for your loss. 😭 I've lost a few also. Hurts more in your heart and pride than your wallet.
I have been up in gliders, hot air balloons, B-17 " Sentimental Journey", cessnas, you name it.....but I gotta say...I admire all of you guys for what you do with these little birds......it amazes me the knowledge you all have on the very basics of flight..........you may play with small craft....but you all are professionals. Keep doing what you do......
This is a lot but it's something typed up for a fellow pilot:
In my pre-teen years I built small, balsa wood model planes...0.49 engines, flat wing. My uncle was flying the F-4 Phantom in Nam at the time but he also flew the P-51 in air-to-air combat and bombing missions starting in the late 40's. The P-51 was and still is my favorite. It was my first "Built-up" wing model I ever built. Boy....what a difference an actual "foiled wing" made!....Taught me a lot about what flies and what struggles to fly. By the time I was 14-15 I was building 60" wing RC, powered planes. (much later gliders) My uncle retired in 1976. He knew I loved airplanes and later I took up golf....both of which were his 2 favorite activities. In 1980 (I was 21) he arranged for me to go up in Art Scholl's Pitt's Special, not with Art but with the only other guy (Ken, I think) allowed to fly his planes. It was my first time ever air-born. I was so excited I never even thought to be nervous or afraid...I knew this planes capabilities. Ken (after demonstrating them once) let my do rolls and loops (easy) but also Cuban 8's, Hammer head's...etc. Outside maneuvers were much more strenuous than I thought. A few years later my uncle took me flying in his Decathlon (he purchased to fly until he finished building his RV-4) and golfing once a week. After some pretty big earthquakes here they moved to Las Vegas.....he died at 85 in 2012. I miss him a LOT but those memories...... In 2015 I decided to get my pilots license....I took "flying" lessons first instead of ground school (for obvious reasons) and got to where I could solo....I had 4 kids and it was taking up a lot of my free time and $$$ so I put it on the shelf....for now.
More about my uncle if you're interested: supersabresociety.com/biography/ewald-g-kruggel/
Ummm.....don't take off or land WITH THE WIND !!
This guy did both. We all make mistakes. Just wish it hadn't been with such a beautiful plane.
Brave of you to post your mistake for the rest of us to learn by. Myself, I would have destroyed this evidence. Lol
Wow - All that effort - All that work.
Gone in an instant.
Makes me glad I fly RTF's
High sink rate vs angle of attack then add power, spin...... it crashed.
Thanks for the video, hope you got it flying again.
Very unfortunate. But you could hear it throttle up as it went down. Stall? Hmmm...Hope you got her fixed back up long before now! Happy flying!
I had the same thing happen with a small er scale version. That plane has a crazy inner wing stall characteristic because of the gull-wing. You really need to keep up the approach speed or you snap roll approach stall....Really expensive slow approach!!
It sounded awesome!
Oh that sucks, such a beautiful plane too!
What a stunning machine! :o
No forward motion --> no airflow over the wing
No airflow over wing --> No lift
No lift --> No fly
No fly --> plane goes into the ground.... a moment of silence for what looked like a beautiful model. The engine sounded really good hopefully it was not damaged
She almost stalled/crashes the fist time at 2:01. on final, dont let wind get under your left wingtip (with this crosswind) keep it down, and keep the nose down. now the right wing stalled and it crashed. in windy condition give it some overspeed on final. So sad. Verry beautifull plane. Before flying do pre flight check, when on downwind do your pre landing checks. like gear down etc.
I had the same problem with a large scale Corsair. When he first took off engine was fine. Once he turned downwind the engine was shutting down. The plane slowed down and he made an attempt for the runway. The engine came back to life and his gear wasn't all the way down so he decided to go around. Once the plane got back up to speed the engine died again.
Corsair cowlings have a tendency to build pressure inside the cowl. Too much air coming in and not enough getting out. The metering valve on the carb senses this as lower altitude and dumps a bunch of fuel in the carb flooding the engine. When the plane slowed down the pressure dropped and the engine was able to recover.
You made it look easy!
Keep it up.
Are you same guy as the other car crash time ?
Ouch! I really love Corsairs, too.
feel for this guy, what a beautiful plane!
That's a crow!? That thing must be sick or something. lol
The full sized Corsair had this problem when it first started aircraft carrier landings. A small stall strip was added to the leading edge of the starboard wing, outboard of the guns. This model was stalling above the tree line so no ground effect way up there. The flaps are huge and the wheel strut covers are quite large too, all of which needs power to overcome. If you look at a lot of large r/c model crash videos you'll see that full flaps on landing are many times fatal. I've had problems with the elevator being blanked out by all this stuff hanging down, making pitch control almost impossible. Models would probably last longer by using 40 degrees of flap on landings. Leave full flaps for static judging on the ground. Remember, a 35 lb. model is way easier to slow down than a 8,000 lb. full sized fighter aircraft.
Downwind landings with choppy control inputs and lack of airspeed rarely end up on the rubber parts.
Looks just like the first time I tried to land a Flyzone foamy Corsair....I did the exact same thing, fixed it, and learned!
Im an upset pilot maneuvering trainer for years now. A trick to avoid stalling when slow is like this:
1-Put the hands in a PUSH POSITION (Both hands the stick and throttle hand too). Never put them in PULL POSITION. If you put them in Pull Position you will pull when nervous (without noticing it most times). Practice that first. Also do LEAN forward a bit when pushing down or adding power, Never step back or lean back. What your body does, your hands will follow. Just my 2c. That teaching method can be used on the real airplanes too.
E muito triste ver um modelo tao bonito terminar dessa maneira. O que realmente importa é que o homem mao desiste dos sonhos, dificuldade existem para serem superadas. Siga adiante sempre. Saudações e minha admiração. 🇧🇷
Stalled. Lots of power. But he tried to float that approach like it was a high wing trainer. He wasn’t ready for the fast sink rate with power off. Then tip stalled so fast there was no recovering from that.
that thing looks HEAVY
It hurts to see. Many years ago I crashed a similar size Corsair of a friend, in a very similar way.
Next time he must make sure to fly at proper speed since those models don't like slow flying...
Also such power and heavy motor stuff at full acceleration will make too much torque for the airplane to handle...
thanks
ouch that hurt to watch .
hope that you got it flying again .
that motor really does sound great
At the first hint of a stall people give it more throttle and the torque makes it roll more sometimes, even on an electric.
Thanks for the vid. Sorry about the plane
Corsairs are real beautys.
This is truly terrible! What a great looking plane. My brother died the exact same way. Scary.
Love it, what goes up must come down.
Nice plane. You did what you could, too bad it crashed. Knowing the plane was tail heavy, the pilot did the right thing in lower the landing gear to help try and correct the problem. Hope ypu get it flying again.
It looked great at the take-off. Didn't seem to pitch up as if it was tail heavy. Then the tail wanted to drop at 1:53 and onward, especially with the gear up - and back. With the gear back down it got a bit better until he descended with the power back and the nose was fairly level. A little bit of power in the last 5-6 seconds may have saved it. But maybe not - who knows?
Darn, sorry for the loss. Looks like a classic tip stall.
Flying slow and dirty on the edge of stall of the entire time, that and not extending his down wind leg long enough to set up for a controlled approach.
hard to tell looking at just a video , but based on way it lifted off and position of elevator that looked very tail heaving. pilot also looks to be flying it like a much lighter wing loaded foamy compounding the problem. thanks for sharing.
That thing is tailheavy like hell !!! Pilots of planes that size and price must know the correct CG !!!
Who told you that?
That's bad luck,I think a number of things contributed to this crash but I would say the main one would be the blustery conditions and those trees causing turbulence close to the ground,you could see the wind sock swing around to the other direction just before the attempted landing,its a terrible thing to see but I'm sure it could be repaired easily enough though,thanx for posting the vid
RC airplanes are like having a car chasing dog. You don’t want to get too attached to them.
You can’t wallow along that slow with a big warbird. And I agree, it needed another look at where the CG was at.
Look at the direction of the dust from his crash. He was landing into the wind. Warbirds this size need full flaps and power for stability to land. But first, he needed 2-3 mistakes high to trim it out and then force stall it. Expensive lesson.
ouch wingtip stall !, such a beauty of a model..... hope you rebuild it .
🤣🤣🤣..FANTASTIC !! …who else just scrolls past the boring flying parts to see the crash’s in these things ? … 🤣🤣
Best. CARF crash. Ever.... nothing like the sound of a 12k crunch.. bloody hell is right!
Yeah man, it seems crazy. I don't build though, I'm just a student pilot, but I may start soon building, I have my eye on the 737 Hana, but indeed this is a good lesson, and something I'll keep in mind while working.
yes most likely he lost to much air speed however, IMO i think it was a combintation of airspeed and the radio wasn't keeping up. the "stall" looked a little sharp for just slow speed. but like james said we weren't there.
So sorry as it was a beautiful model. The first sign of the difficult flight characteristics happened on the low pass prior to the final approach. The aircraft appeared to flounder (wings rocking, turbulent, nose level or slightly pitched up) suggesting it needs a lot of attention to angle of attack and speed to fly well. In hindsight, making it more nose heavy might have helped a little. It looked very difficult to fly. I dont think I would have faired any better had I been the pilot
heart wrenching crash! sorry dude!
A sad ending to such a beautiful plane.
he already had a very high angle of attack on approach, as if he was flying at near stall speed all the way down to the ground, then, he realized he needed to add power, but in doing so, the engine's torque overpowered what little lift the wings had as well as the rudder had causing the right wing and rudder to stall (discontinued airflow over the control surfaces) causing sudden yawing and snap roll which would have progressed into a flat spin, but alas, the ground rushed up before it reached that stage of the stall.
I agree, altough you can easily multiply the bill by 2 or 3.
Yikes! That plane is awesome looking and sounding. The guy at the end of the video took the words right out of my mouth... "Oh no, oh sh**, bloody hell!"
I feel this plane was tail heavy, even with the gear down. Note the way it clawed for altitude on take off. More importantly, when the gear retracted, the plane became less stable. The gear retracts to the rear, shifting the CG even more rearward. A stall under those circumstances will likely be sudden and violent. Such a nice plane. I am so sorry.
Sorry for your loss....
Heart breaking, sorry man.
correct explaination...i agree with you...too much up the elevator when it goes slow..., this is not tail heavy.....but in experience and panic pilot...
Tha'ts your CLASSIC TIP STALL! What a drag!
damn....and a Pappy Boyington markings kit too. aww man
Beautiful plane, Im sure you will rebuild it and learn from your mistakes.
Lmao
Agreed, I was warned of aileron's because they function independently for rolling. Thats what this plane looked like, it would have done a roll if it had altitude. One slip of the wrist and it's over. I'm not ready for that, still on rudder and elevator for now, works good enough. So much to remember when you start adding accessories. Flaps are better for breaking when landing. I like that Idea better. I would have vomited if that were my plane. A good lesson to all for posting it.
dude, that's awesome
Too bad, very nice looking Corsair. Yeah, it was a tip stall. Hope you can fix it.
@eastcoast78 The motor had a problem and was not running at full power. He was struggling to get it back as they dont glide very well.
You'll be happy to know that he has just about finished another corsair.
Problem was the motor and another corsair owner here with the same Moki motor had the same issues and had to belly land too.
So stay tuned for the next corsair flight.!!
man that was sad! what happened? It looked so good and sounded great!
My uncle had a smaller corsair that caught fire in mid air and crashed, and you can see the smoke trails on the wings.
Nice balsa bits.
@mford739 yea i here yea,now that you say that, it did look a bit AFT heavy! Raptor was saying the engine not running correctly!
There is a saying about tail heavy planes...
money cant buy skillz, airspeed is life.
Wow that plane sounds so cool and looks so cool I wish I could have one. But sorry that's sucks
I can feel with you
That was a torque roll mate........reduced speed and applying power brought it over.......that's all.....live and learn. Cest la vie!
It's a warbird. Not a piper cub. No gliding it in. You fly them in all the way till your just off the ground!
Someone mentioned it torque rolled, that would have gone in left. Usually it would stall left due to multiple torque effects. He did seem to have some up elevator on the ground (someone mentioned the lack thereof). I think full up is usually one centimeter if set up right. He clearly uses too much up on takeoff since it takes off in an unscale (ridiculously short) ground roll. Anyone notice the windsock! I don't think I would takeoff a $10,000 airplane downwind! He survived that due to enormous power. Well, sad to see, and I hope he doesn't give up. Too much airplane for him at this point though...more practice on a smaller one.....
Take off are optional but landings are mandatory! Sorry for your loss.....makes my wallet hurt just watching it. ;)
Slow speed tip stall! that sucks.. Love the sound of that motor though. I hope he gets it going again
Oh my God, to own and try to fly a plane like this without actually knowing how to fly? I'm just thankful no one was hurt.
what's the C&G LIKE ,, was it tail heavy !
If your about to tip stall you will notice the planes not reacting real fast to your commands up the speed alittle more to you feel the plane responding to your output .Its a tricky plane to fly for beginners
It's always easy to comment after the event. Despite the tail heaviness, the start of the approach looked promising. You dropped the nose to keep the air speed up but then you levelled too high, not enough power, lost the air speed and tip stalled. Gee, your elevator must've been so sensitive. That's the highest tip stall I've seen so far. It usually happens lot lower. Sorry about your loss mate.
Rudder may have malfunction, or maybe to much flap for coming in landing.. nice plain though
Classic mistakes hopefully you won’t repeat. A lot of work to repair hopefully lesson learned. Down wind landing, slow speed, keeping the nose down and maybe checking you have some wash out on the tips and it’s equal might help. No powering up at low level and zero speed, lots to not repeat.