IS IT BAD NEWS FOR THE PEUGEOT RCZ ??? OR AN EASY FIX ???
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The comments section is an absolute *goldmine* of information. You learn something new everyday. Well done to everyone that contributed with the solution. 👍
To be honest I haven't got as much experience as these guys but that sound didn't ever sound like a crankshaft noise to me, big end noise sounds deep and satisfying, the noise sounded like a much higher frequency however the sound recorded by a video camera and often the paint colour recorded by a video camera is often totally different to the actual perception of the individual viewing a live situation. There could be a lessen there. Record the sound of an engine aka the sound filtered out by an electronic device there might be clues there.
Wow , just goes to show , it's not
what you think..... & that kinda
" pisses me off " because alot
of older people drive small cars
& get charged a few grand for
something that is not , thanks
to the viewers people now could
think differently as in more options
I feel sorry for the victims out there.
Guys bloody great video another
Win for the people. 😂
I concur with you Mr Watson
What a cracking result lads. 10 out of 10 for the folk who knew what the fault was 👏👏👏👏
Great outcome lads! The shocking truth is though, that some poor trusting Peugeot customers are shelling out £4000 to have a new engine fitted!
When Chris pulled that cord I expected to hear "Action Man patrol forward!"
The noise is caused by sections of the auxiliary belt missing causing the actuator wheel to jump about. If you had run it up with the wheel arch liner out the way you would of seen it. Do at least 1 of these a week at the moment it seems.
And ahhhhhhhh relax !! Rebuilds time . Best bit of the start of the week. Who d have thought a wibbley wobbly would create that noise !!
You're spot on when you said you can't know everything, the most worrying thing is that another garage said it needed a new engine. How can this happen so often? How many very good cars a scrapped through misdiagnosis? That Aldi TT, sorry I mean Peugeot is a good reason to find a good local automotive engineer, not a big garage with lots of fitters and give them all your business. Thanks as always, Jon.
I've been in the trade for 30 odd years and seen some crazy ideas but this ranks as one of the most over complicated solutions for a problem that doesnt exist I've ever come across. Nuts.
The French are known for their over engineering ,especially when it comes to cars. They take pride in being "different "...
A solution looking for a problem
I have said it many times on here, I am 'old school' but I was in the 'big end' camp. I think you were right Rob, it was just a mistake. At least the little man can have a rest now! I bet he went home and watched the Jubilee! Thanks Rob and Chris for an interesting video once again. Thanks to all the subscribers who made the right call, well done all.
How many people have been hit with massive engine replacement bills when they only needed £150 + labour. Crazy design. Great result for you guys and you took a risk. The new music is so much better, thanks. Love the channel lads 👍
Amazing diagnosis. Imagine being told you need a new engine and potentially scrapping the car for such a small fix! Power to all of the subscribers!
All that so the engine can warm up 2 minutes faster? The only thing that makes any sense to me is that Peugeot needed the engine up to operating temperature and on closed-loop control as fast as possible to comply with emissions regulations.
That belt had a chunk out of it. Every time it would go past the "Tension-er/Enabler Thing-a-ma-ginger" it would bounce the wheel against the waterpump wheel and make the noise! I would bet that all that car really needed was a new serpentine belt!
What a result so much for the original diagnosis🤔🙄 and what makes this channel great 👍 is you take advice from viewers 😀 and check it out what is said 👍👍👍
As someone else said and I agree, the enormous chunk missing from the former drive belt would've made a heck of a din as it passed the tensioner. A nice lucky break and the comments section is proven correct! Excellent video there Rob.
Agreed, I think it was making the tensioner jump each time it passed through it, hence the noise.
I think Chris deserved an easy-fix to get over Rob turning up with that Landrover! Well done guys. I was also chuffed to find out earlier that I was a winner in the last Comline competition, that I found out about from watching the channel. Thanks again!
Nice win lads, had exactly same noise on a mini it was the belt itself had bits missing on the ribs causing the pump driver to clatter like big ends, new belt fitted job done 👌
old owner must be gutted watching this - well done chaps
Rob said, He’s ok he was offered the car before the video went out
Total Result! Well deserved! You guys make me smile...time and time again!
Glad the commemts section were able to help you get it sorted. Another example of manufacturers over complecating things. There'll be someone out there with a kit to transform it to a more conventional set up. If not, Chris could design one. Top work. 👍
It doesn't say much for the technicians that said the engines gone, does it?
They certainly didn't do any checks.
Fair play to those that put you onto the fix. And good on you both for listening 👍👊
Absolutely extraordinary. What an amazing community and outcome. You guys must have smiles all round!
Don’t you love it when a plan comes together. Well done lads and we’ll done those who offered advice.
Love how rob gets the hard job of going for the coffee!
Just watching this has given me deep joy - well done!
I love it when the comments come together to help with fixing the cars. Restores a bit of faith in humanity, proper channel
What a great result - so pleased for you guys that is was a quick fix .
Wow Chris finding out something new about auto’s, there’s hope for little old me yet, my sons 1.2 Clio was putting oil out as quickly as I was putting it in, cracked sump I thought took it to the mechanic who looks after me and it was the oil pump housing, so looks like I’ll stick to doing my crossword at least I can do that, super post guys and well done the guys who put you in the right direction
You should pay attention when buying spare parts for this engine, especially the problem is the belt, which is much thinner on aftermket spare parts and can create a problem, there is not enough friction between the tensioner and the pulley on the water pump, so bether solution is to buy original belt it will last longer. Btw nice car😎 Greetings From Croatia!
Same problem with my Mini! Glad you got it sorted on the cheap
Amazing! I had something similar with a timingbelt cover that had shifted. There suddenly was a horrible noise and I thought it was the end of that motor. So so happy when I found out the cover had shifted and was grinding against a pulley! You never know intil you know!
You did it again guys, fantastic result. Not sure now but there use to be quite a following for these Peugeot's
This car is a gem, feel bad for the old owner
Great that your follows are helping you out. Excellent entertainment.
My mini did exactly the same thing last year. The noise is the worn belt on the pulley. Love your videos 👍🏻
No wonder there isn’t many about !!! I bet a few have gone over the bridge thinking the bottom end had gone 🤦♂️
What a result:)
You never stop learning.
Interesting.
Glorious, great work to you 2 and the community for their input
What a brilliant result 👍🏻
Rob and Chris, fantastic news, fantastic channel please keep the videos coming
Can't help but wonder if that "garage" was looking at making a pretty penny on that "new engine".
Within the first minute, I’d thought ‘uh-oh, Rob’s been on the sauce’. 😀
good to see you guys had the same problem i had with a mini
noise is so like bottom end / shells worn
good car for some one with a quick turn around
for you guys
Rob,so pleasing to see you and Chris so happy with this easy fix thanks to others suggestions,so pleased for you both,it makes up for the headaches you sometimes get ( ie rs 2000).
Me and my girlfriend have just aquired one of these from her Dad!!! He had not driven it for 3 1/2 years and he is moving to a warden controlled flat. I have been in the process of recommissioning it....new tires all round, getting rid of fault codes, broken Coil spring etc.... New MOT now and only 45k on the clock we aim to keep it as a second car. Its a boneshaker but does have personality that is so lacking in modern cars.
I can't help but think of the previous owner. Big ends gone at 73K? Unlikely if it's been cared for. They've lost $Ks due to misdiagnosis. I feel for them.
I agree, as in I feel sorry for the previous owner, but to be fair a lot of modern Peugeot engines crap themselves prematurely, so is not unheard of.
Your grin at the end of the video says it all , a team effort
Hi rob and Chris, great job. Well done to the viewers for helping you. From marty in Belfast northern Ireland God bless
That’s a really lovely looking car Rob, I’m sure they’ll be a nice little que of hopeful customers wanting to buy that one! 😊
I have seen this issue 100s of times with bad belts. Basically that actuator comes in when the engine gets hot to then start circulating the coolant and as it’s squashing the belt on the pulleys that big gap in the belt is what’s making the noise as it’s thumping past the actuator is probably good just change the belt and the pump if it’s ok.
It just shows everyone that watch's is happy to help. Another great video.
What a crazy setup! Well done guys, Nice and easy she you know the answer.
Just had this, garage convinced it's knackered.... I tested it by pulling the manual release out on the friction wheel and silence! Even more shocking on more inspection there were 3 small "blisters/bumps" on outside the belt. Changed the belt, fixed - from scrap car to fixed in 15 quid!!!
How many cars have gone to the grave, or had the expensive timing chain "death rattle" diagnosed for a stupid envirocrap over complicated setup, it's absolutely stupid.
Totally over engineered set up that water pump talk about trying to reinvent the wheel... Well done fellas great result 👍👍
Theres a plethora of knowledge in community guys. Absolutely brilliant 👏👏👏👏
This is what makes your channel so good. I learned something, I chuckled at your humour, you got a result and someone will end up with a bargain.
Sweet ... great flip, nice having others out in the cyber world that off there technical skill to the resolution to these kind of problem. NOW why would an engineer design something so flaky ... but it did run 70K until if failed (I wonder if the manual called out that drive belt to be replaced at 60K miles) LOL. Great job guys and great content too. I also liked the music.
How funny I did one today at work.
The bath plug tensioner as I know it , no fecking room on the mini to get your hands in🤦♂️. I would avoid the garage that suggested a new engine. Disgraceful 😡
Really happy for you for a quick fix and tidy profit. Very well done.
What an amazing easy fix and thanks to the posters that helped out with the diagnosis. Good one guys!!
Chaps you should pop the engine code name in the description probably help loads of people
You learn something new everyday 👍
Rob & Chris like you guys
We all love these videos and learn so much from watching both of you
Well done to all the guys that put you on the right track, you have some great viewers.
Is that a private plate, guys? I reckon an accountant boss would pay good money for that!
Still looks modern today👍
Great video guys! Like you I was convinced that it was a problem deep in the engine? My wife has a 2015 RCZ & if this problem ever comes up with her’s then I know the fix! Also, excellent help from your knowledgeable subscribers! Cheers! Keep up the good work & advice! 👍
a wide range of vehicle you tackle. wide range of faults. wide range of viewers and experience. a lot respect to you and the viewers working together. gets results. Well done everyone involved.
The past owner is briefing a lawyer to sue their old mechanic after watching this video! LOLZ
Could the knocking possibly have been the flat spot on the belt as it went between the pullys
Sounds quite likely!
Yeah that's what I thought too
That's what I really like about this channel, You get so many great surprises. As Chris said "Every day is a school day".
Well done lads, cracking 2 episode series. 😀
Great video Chris and Rob big thanks to the subs helping the lads out !!
Yeah it's a clutch. The vag 2.0 engine has a similar electric clutch on its mechanical water pump to get it warm really quickly. . That fails just before the cam belt is due!
Well done guys, can't help but feel sorry for the previous owner, probably cost him a lot of money after a misdiagnosis
We offered it to him he’s ok 👍
Just shows how genuine you pair are, proper Gents of the highest regard 👌
Hello Rob and Chris, what a great result, well done to your subscribers who helped.
Saw a similar car in Brighton on Sunday, first one I’ve ever seen on the road.
Very well done.
Thank you for taking the time to upload another video. Ged
Tanks for the education from your subs . Thanks for showing the fix .
Good result. Peace and love✌❤
I suspect the noise was where the section with the missing ribs on that belt was getting pinched between the pulleys and tensioner wheel. It may have just needed a belt, but it was still worth putting the pump and tensioner on it anyway.
This is what I came into say. It was absolutely this.
I have the same car, had a similar sound coming from the engine. Luckily the mechanic is a cousin of mine as it was indeed only a damaged belt the culprit.
Could easily have been ripped off.
My 208 gti made same noise was also the other pulley was out of balance it has a anti vibration thingy majig lol it turned out to be that so have that silly plastic tenstioner if anyone needs one
That's a wrap! Great find, someone was spot on in the previous video comment section, they said the belt would have chunks missing! Kudos to them!
Lovely video and what a great result. I did the aux belt on my Mini Cooper S and was dead impressed with the pull cord to release the tension to change the aux belt. It had perished in the same way.
On a separate note my missus had a prang in said mini and it was written off by the insurance after their approved repairer sabotaged the engine to exaggerate the repair cost ( we had proof and have since received compensation). Anyway, Inspired by all the videos you have made I have taken my time, sourced the bits and repaired it myself except for paying for the paint and lining up panels - back on the road as good as new. So a massive THANK YOU to you both as I probably wouldn’t have done it otherwise.
Would love to see a video of you lining up a bonnet as I had a go and it was impossible ha!
Hi. I work for mini. When the belts have chunks out of them it causes the water pump drive unit to knock against the pump pulley
yes that is true ,i did the chain thinking it was that, but it was the rubber off a section off the water pump pully, and was hitting the metal tensioner , take note guys
The number plate has always made me laugh.
I wish I would still live in the UK, I always liked that car. Great job from the other subscribers!!! It is so great to see that there are still people who know what they are doing and care !!!
loved watching the two videos on this car. happy for you being able to wrap it all up so quickly.
Sorry guys only got half a tank we thought it was full....but Chris lawnmower be running for few weeks for free 😉
Begs the question, why was the belt in such a state if the car has so much paper work/service records with it? Even so, nice drink in it for you lads!
Brilliant, its nice to have some luck occasionally, im delighted for you both,, makes you wonder about the garages diagnosis, ffs, wonder how many people have splashed out on new engines
Glad you guys figured it out - had this a few times in the past. You will probably have found, that the missing ribs on the aux belt are what cause the noise. That actuator pushing against the back of the belt is most likely what caused the noise when it hits the ‘step’ where the ribs are missing. The actuator is quite strong, and even though the ribs are on the other side of the belt, it creates a flat spot and makes a hurrendous noise.
Well done - look forward to the next video! 👍🏼
I hope that You and Chris replaced the water pump friction wheel and have not used the old tatty one as there is no rubber left on it,I'm saying this because I didn't see a brand new shiny one fitted.
Result guys. Everyone deserves a win occasionally.
Great job lads, its nice to see everything going right for you.
A lovely quick fix Rob and Chris and well done to all comments about that part 👍
I think you will find the noise is where there is a chunk out of the belt because it drives off between that and the pulley
100%
Power of your subscribers rise to the occasion again.
I'm aware you have to sort the chaff from the wheat though.
Nice quick fix and cracking video. Fair play and well done to the contributors that offered the suggestions to the fix. 👍👍
Nice fix guys and you learn new stuff for all of us. Happy Happy
Makes me wonder how many of them have been scraped just cos of that
Interesting looking car, Peugeot aren't sold in the U.S. although I wish they were.
Im Australian and I'm about to buy one for my first car in a few weeks
Had a similar issue with my 206 1.4 hdi. Same noise which a few garages could not diagnose. Sounded like engine was gonna drop out. Finally sorted it myself in the end.
New pulley and perfect again.
Great fix, well done team salvage. Lovely looking motor that Rob, it will fly out the door.