Learn Starcraft! Easy Beginner Protoss Build Order Guide & Training (Updated 2020)
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- A solid Protoss build order you can use especially against Terran, but also as a start in the other matchups as well. How to max out quickly, impress your friends, and then ditch them to get more ladder points :)
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Winter: Ready to attack at 12 mins
Me: ready to attack at 50 mins
NO CAP LOL
A real protoss is ready to attack at minute 3 😆
50 MIN. WOW YOUR GOOD 😂😂😂
if you survive for 50 mins then you are great :))))
I attack right away 😂 just won with prove rush lmao
"everyday we should play with ourselves" been doing that for years now
you're doing it wrong obv
Gotta have your sister play with you
Believe me you're not the only one. 😂😂😂
I don't think people actually got what u meant
@@thegrimreaper2608 wth
Wow four forges. Or as I like to call it, a fourge.
Get out :D
Lol
Hehehe
Funny bro
punny
This is the first round of new guides after the end of year patch and for the year 2020! There will be a build order and a longer (~1 hr) more standard guide for each race! Also planning on another "Masters with Less than 100 APM" series soon ;)
Will we get a diamond guide?
Do it playing terran please!!
Can't wait for it. Thanks for bringing my winter some winter! Greetings from Germany and thanks for the "winter has uploaded a new video!"-altert at 4 a.m. :)
Great to see you do it again, i have learned so much from your guides, and hoope to continue to do so.
Can you give exacts timings or anchor points on when to go up to 8 gates? Is it after 3rd base goes down?
Notes:
Benchmarks - Max supply with 70 probes, Archon, Immortal, & Colossus, and +2 Attack/Armor
Bronze/Silver - 14 mins
Gold - 13 mins
Plat - 12 mins
Diamond - 11 mins
Use Camera locations
Early tech against Terran
Wall off mineral line
Zealots basically useless without charge
Nexus counts as 2 pylons
"SUPER PYLONS" - Pylons located next to Warp Gate OR Nexus - Allows units to be warped 3xs as fast
Use Chronos to speedup Upgrades NOT unit production
Armor Upgrades > Shield Upgrades - because shields regen, units usually have more armor than shields
14 Pylon - next to gas geyser
16 Gate
17 Assimilator - When assim finishes, send scout probe and fill assim
21 Cyber Core
21 (1:50) 2nd Nexus
21 (after Nexus) 2nd Pylon
23 2nd Assimilator
*2:15 Cyber Core finishes - (24) Adept or Stalker / Warp Gate Tech / chrono Cyber core
27 Robo Facility
27 Pylon
*3:03 Nexus finishes - 2nd and 3rd Gates
29 Stalker
35 Observer
36 Sentry
*3:37 Chrono Robo Facility
40 Observer - one for your base, one to watch large ramp entrance to your base
45 2 additional Pylons
46 Immortal
50 2 stalkers
57 Assimilator @ 2nd Nexus
58 Assimilator @ 2nd Nexus
59 4:50 3rd Nexus (IF SAFE)
60 RoboBay
60 Forge
60 2 additional Pylon
~*5:15 should have 48 probes (full saturation for 2 base) continue to build stalker/adept/sentry
*5:25 Forge complete - attack +1
*5:45 Robo Bay Complete - thermal lance
70 Colossus
78 /@50 probes 5 additional Gateways
87 Twilight Council
105 Templar Archives - After Twilight Council is complete / 2 additional Assimilators @ 3rd Nexus
From here on out...
Continue to warp in units
Continue to warp in pylons
Once you have 60-70 probes Warp in templars and merge to Archons
Multiple forges
Shield batteries
Few Cannons - based on opponents movement and pressure
Closing Notes for Late Game:
- If opponent is on 2 base, go for 4th base
- More base/more units counters less "stuff" LOL
- Stargates for late game
-To help defend early pressure
- more units instead of 3rd base
- invest in more shield batteries
-Spend resources as much as possible
-Build pylons - DONT GET SUPPLY BLOCKED
-Immortal/Charge lot/Archon is still viable
My notes:
1. Play with yourself.
2. Everyday.
Here is the Build Order in Text for everyone that has bad memory. Note that if you watch this video for the first time you should definetely watch it through. I let a lot of details out and probably did some mistakes writing all of this down. This is meant for people coming back to the video that need a small refreshment.
14 Supply: Pylon next to your Geysir
16: Gateway
17: Assimilator -> As soon as it is done, scout with a drone
21: Cybercore -> As soon as it is done, Chronoboost x1 and Warp Gate
~21: Expansion (Nexus in natural) + Pylon
2nd Assimilator after 2nd Pylon
27: Stalker/Adept. If you're getting rushed maybe Zealot. Zealots are meh until they get Pogosticks that make them jump. (Charge)
As soon as your Nexus finishes: +2 Gateways
27: Robo + Pylon
~40 : 2 Observers, one to scout the opponent, one to give you an early warning in case troups are coming. Chronoboost Robo
45~45: 2 Pylons at the edge of the main
54: 1 Immortal, 2 Stalkers
40 *Probes*: 2 Assimilators in Natural + Third Base, Robotics Bay, Forge.
From here on out, build Pylons when you are close to your supply limit.
Your Army Goal is Immortals, Chargelots, Archons. In case you are fighting a Bio Terran, get Collossi.
50 *Probes*: At least 8 Gateways overall
As soon as Robobay finishes -> Twilight Council, Chronoboost your upgrades and scout with Hallucinations (Sentry spell)
Build Templar Archives after Twilight finishes
Get both Assimilators at third Base.
Warp in Zealots, get weapon upgrades. you can get multiple forges, not more than three though. (Looking at you, Winter)
60 - 70 *Probes*: Maybe get a few cannons in usefull places
Max out your Army. If your opponent is Turtling/sitting on two bases, get a Stargate and maybe Tempest. Tempests outrange Turrets.
Maybe get this on paper and put it next to you while playing if you struggle to remember stuff. I do, which is why I made this :)
If I have made any mistakes in here, feel free to let me know so I can fix it. Same goes for ideas for improvements.
Good Luck on the ladder, fellow Protoss :)
Thanks!
Thanks a bunch! Just installed last night XD
U forgot 2nd assimilator after 2nd Pylon XD
@@lukex1337 thanks, edited that in. Hope thats in the right place, didn't play for ages...
what do the numbers next to each section mean?
jesus christ I'm plat toss and I never realised nexus counts as 2 pylons... Thanks for teaching me winter
I think it was the gateway that counts as 2
Edit: Nevermind, I'm re watching the video and you were right
@@trevsreview8680 the gateway ??... 😂 😂 😂 😆 😆 😆 😆
If the gateway counted as 2 pylons, why would one need to create pylons at all? Early on in the game, you won't have warp gate, so you won't need it to warp units in. As for supply, a gateway counting as 2 units means 10 gateways and 3 nexus + the pylons you would need for your matrix so your buildings can operate is all you would need. You may not even need that many pylons for the matrix because by the time u warp prisms, you will have a 2 bases and let's say 3-5 or more gateways, which will have you at adequate supply until more gateways. Then the prisms substitute the pylons because the cost wouldn't be worth it when you can use the prisms. Unless, of course you count the supply required for the prisms, but you wouldn't need that many & unless you're playing really good opp, you wouldn't need to even worry about that.
I'm just wondering what was running through your mind when you wrote that. Not here to make fun of you, just curious & want to break it all down, as well. What would the answer be ? That you would need the pylons for the matrix & you didn't know about warp prism, or for the opportunity cost of the supply it would take for your buildings to operate via warp prism. Or for the saving of materials early on ?? You'll need the gateways anyway & them counting as 2 pylons basically makes it a fair trade.
@@bobobogdan2884 calm down lol
@@bobobogdan2884 speed?
Wow ... is Winter going soft, never seen so much kindness.
I think Lowko is bad influence for you.
If not follow this advice, you do, angry be, he will.
@@lagg1e We like to see winter taking a "dump" on players.
I think Lowko have kidnap winter and replace him with a clone
A hallucinated winter
Holy crap - as a major abuser of select all, and somebody who mains terran but dabbles with protoss, i did not realize surveillance mode existed. Thanks for that tip!
I like the non-angry coach style!
Don't get used to it, it won't last.
Its good hey,. I saw a driving schhol company called "No yelling driving school", This should be "Winters no yelling beginners guide" lol
I love how you can be so condescending and sarcastic with observing games but at the same time be a very clear and easy to understand teacher. Thank you!
Excellent videos as always, Winter. I would definitely like to see cheese defense guides in the future, how to shut down cannon rushes, scout proxies etc in the future!
Hey Winter, thanks for starting on the newish build guides! I like this kind of more-specific thing, and I know everyone else does too. You should probably make nine of them, one for each match-up. You are a star, and I stand between you and the candle.
This video has helped me so much. "Your greatest enemy is not your opponent, your greatest enemy is yourself." This is so true. Thank you Winter!
I kinda like how winter fights with his winter announcer XD its kinda funny
"This fucking guy" XD
Recently got back into the game, and played some ladder and was like 5 W - 10 L in bronze. Before the following season I watched this guide and easily breezed to gold 3 with 17 W - 8 L. Thanks, Winter-sensei! 10/10 would recommend!
This guide is so good it made Lowko switch from zerg to protoss
straycatnip I don’t have words for this
Mate, Just started looking at your channel, and you're killing it. Thanks a lot for posting all those guides and tips!
dude is so relax and build 200 at ~11min ! damn i'm getting back to Starcraft and wanna be this good ;))
Haven’t played in a long time, so used your guide to get some rust off.
Played against a friend I didn’t know also played some time ago. Needless to say, I maxed out 11 min and stomped him.
It was protoss vs zerg and he had only around 120 units done.
So thanks for that.
Maxing out is good for B, S, and G...right in the feels
I got to level 1000 co op and decided to jump into ranked after a versus ai game that gave me an idea. Its a 5 gate all in build, and it got me to diamond. Failed a lot against zergs that roach up (30% win rate against zergs lol. 73% win rate against toss, and about 60% win rate against terran), so I modified it against zerg.
Go pylon at choke, send that probe to a corner. Then a gateway and another pylon to wall the choke. Then cy core, and an assimilator. The key is to only get enough probes for minerals and one gas, dont spend any more on probes. Then get 4 more gateways around the time your cy core finishes. Research warp and boost it as much as you can. Warp should finish very shortly after the gateways finish.
That probe you sent to a corner should have made a pylon at some point, and then sent to the opposite corner and make another pylon if your first pylon gets scouted.
When your warpgates are up, you should have around 1k minerals banked. Now just warp units in, about 3 rounds of warps, and send em to attack. Its very rarely expected, and rarely defended. I usually go adepts, but stalkers may be necessary in pvp. When i attack, its usually like 10 adepts and 5 zealots, but mess around with it and feel it out on your own. If it fails, you lose. But like I said, it got me to diamond. Try it out!
Against zerg i now go 4 gate, 1 robo and rush a couple immortals and attack asap. This destroys those roaches. Ill have like 5 adepts, 5 zealots, and 2 or 3 immortals (need enough zealots for mass lings). And i actually get 2 assimilators with that build cuz obviously need gas.
In 2 nights i went from placing silver, to climbing up to diamond3. They are short games lol. If you cripple your opponent, but not enough to finish em, use that probe thats on the map to expand in a corner and get voids/oracles to finish em off.
I wasn't aware of this training technique at all, but I'm already embracing it. Thanks for the great tips!
i personally like going against AI because it is always good to remember the opponent attacking throws a wrench in your timings. rarely does a build go PERFECT without any hitches. So, for that reason the Ai is a better choice when training imo. Doesnt even have to be a hard AI, just anything to remind you that the opponent will be attacking you most likely.
@@bobbykeating3398 this is good for engraving the build in your head. So when you do happen to face AI/opponents, the wrenches wont fluster you as much you can throw in a couple extra things and get right back onto the BO without giving it extra thought
@@Deepblue417 idk i disagree still, i think the more realistic you train the better. i guess either way this highlights one of the most important aspects which is SCOUTING
You should do more videos like this, really. Thank you very much, it helps a lot. A piece of advice: maybe you commenting a replay would work better than you actually playing as playing and explaining ruins the timing of your build. Just a feedback from this noob :) 👍
"so what we're gonna learn to do, very first, is play with ourselves, every day play with ourselves" Dude I play starcraft I think i've got that covered
This was really helpful advice for me. 100%, I've been trying to do too much at once, thinking I should be pushing attacks earlier even just to harass, and I lose too much focus on my production and economy. Then, if I can't finish it before midgame, I'm way behind. I'm an OG StarCraft campaign and skirmish player lol, so I do have much to learn of the new ways.
This kind of strategy is what I wanted as well. I know the whole meta and all the specific builds are important for competitive, but there's also just all the fundamentals, and getting all that down will take you a long way I think. And P.S. I like your presentation of it - you're pleasant to listen to lol.
Banged out my air protoss build in 10 min with all air upgrades in 2v2 and felt like a 300 APM god. Thanks for this video, im gold after 100 games now :)
I did this build and I didn't get supply blocked just because I remembered you got supply blocked couple of times. Noob :D
Build a 2nd pylon, where's your 2nd pylon
@@SpencerMcGuire totally forgot my 2nd pylon on the second ladder match with this build
This is VERY useful and amazing! can u do 1 for Zerg & Terran please? This is a great overall 15 min guide. i didnt know about the super pylon so little things like that as u walk as through ur thought process for 10 min is very helpful! More please for other 2 races!!!
"More stuff counters less stuff", yes it does, ~~looks at my double edge forge cannon rush on zergs.
Best guy and guide and video you will find on youtube for sc2!!!
ooh - looking forward to the Terran video!!! :D
Love the stuff you do keep it up!
Thanks for keeping these build updates going for us!
I'll give it a try, thanks.
I was stuck on very hard ai for the longest time. I did this and it worked
I've never heard of super pylon ! Thank you.
Lol me neither !
Me too guys 0.0 We're learning Pog
Same, and i thought i was a protoss main
Just tested warping one zealot under super pylon and another to a regular one, it's impressive the difference, actually 3 times faster
I noticed there's a differrence in warp times, the enemy was already killing them before the finished warping but didn't understand wht
I definitely need some strategy for 2020, I feel like I was only ever good at this game in 1998...
Same here. I would 1v3 my friends and rekt them. Just started playing again and am horrible
Einfach Weltklasse! when Winter said: "There is no weightclass in sc2! There is no "Oh, I only fight with army of 50supply!"" LOL
This is srsly a great guide for newbies
tHANK YOU I NEEDED THIS NOW I CAN SUCK BUT HAVE A PLAN DOING IT!!!!!!!!
awesome guide! are you going to do a zerg revised video aswell?
thanks winter!
6:07 "Jimmy move me, ty" jimmy is so responsive
I love your advices WS, but whats the best way to defend against early air attack on probes? building Stalkers and Observers?
"You can have multiple forges" - proceeds to add 2 forges to his 2 already existing forges. Just in case one of the gets sniped you can still build three upgrades at a time :D
hey, I know this build order
14 pylon, 16 probe, chrono boost, build a gate, scout with the probe. 17 assimilator, 2 more probes. 19 probe can go down the ramp, if he's already there, build a cyber core instead, now 21 gas, 21 pylon.
22 if you won't forget but you will forget so stop fucking around.
@@Arlano76 where's your second pylon?
M.H.B 21 pylon
I'm picking up little pieces, one at a time. and I'm coming for you.
these guides are so hilarious
"Everyday play with yourself" ( ͡❛ ͜ʖ ͡❛)
yeah I also love how right after he said it he grabbed both ends of his keyboard lmao.
I bet $500 bucks before checking the comments someone was gonna comment this
Poor Winter doesn't know in 2020 Protoss only has air units.
Do you mean that in pvz nowadays you almost ask ways need sky toss openers to defeat roach/ravager all-ins?
"More googlin than playin", hits me..lol! 😂😂
Still haven’t got the balls to pvp, just the idea gives me anxiety. VH comp is my limit as of yet. Your channel is much appreciated. Toss ftw.
I enjoy making 4 forges too, especially against terran. Should we get really meta and proxy one or two forges?
Bronze player?
Cheers, watched this video, played with myself twice, did two unranked games and ran through placements and ended up in gold 3. Not bad for never having touched the game I think.
Thanks for the video Winter. I have a question though: when you say "your goal should be +2 [...]", do you mean +2 weapons AND +2 armor, or should I just focus on getting one or the other?
The goal is both of them: +2 wapon and +2 armor
@@fumetsu7717 great thanks mate :)
Thanks Winter. I'm still pushing
I really wish my games lasted this long.
Got a question
How can you add a unit or a building to you hotkey? Like when i build 2 barracks and they are too far away to double-click and bind them on hotkey 2 for example, what can i do to bind them on one hotkey? Thx in advance to everyone reading this
1:29 "Every day you should play with yourself" lmfao...
Thats right mate, you heard the man.... haha
I'm seeing a huge army with zero anti-air. What do we do against Battlecruisers or mass banshee? I've heard lots of good players say Stalkers should never be used due to being a noob trap, so if not that what does Protoss even have? Phoenixes? Or are Void Rays strictly better?
If you get 12 blink stalker at 5 minutes mark, you win against anything. After that they are support units
3yeara late to the party but just got my first win attempting this cheers.
Nice job! Colossi openers are pretty solid
I am rly new too sc2 and i am confised avout forges. Do their effects stack? Is it good to have more than one? Should i place them close to anything? I always though forges were just to get photon and zelot upgs lmao
This build doesn't look like it has much anti-air. What would you recommend to do if scouting reveals an opposing air build?
Hello! This might be little noob to ask or maybe i missed it from vid but is there any scenario u wont go warp gate as protoss, i mean if u have 2 gates gives only 2 unit warp, i feel like il get faster units just by making them whit regular gate at start. Im a new player and struggeling if i should do always warp gates or regular ones.
What are your thoughts on Oracles early on?? Build 2-4 of them and harassed a mineral line of the opponent?
I've been trying to get faster with protoss and try taking the advantage.
I always just built up til I get attacked and hope my defence can handle it then attack. Thanks this works a lot better lol
Now do a Zerg one :D
1:29 “every day, you should play with yourself”
I’m sorry come again now?
Come again? If you insist 😏
Watched this video, tried it twice against myself. Then I won my next three matches in silver league, one of the matches was against a gold player.
Winter you should 100% do a Zerg Video because i am having trouble fighting terran mech and protoss late game as zerg at the moment especially with the flux vain void ray upgrade.
What do you do against early Terran push? I open with 2 gateways and then double adept harass , killed a few SCVs.
But Terran had 4 siege tanks, 2 medivacs and maybe 14 marines before 6minutes marching towards my base. I shaded 4 adepts from behind and killed two siege tanks but adepts were killed and then rest of my army/base.
Ps.: I am gold, close to platinum
Winter, are there any plans on a guide for 2021?
I'm afraid this guide will be outdated by then :)
What keyboard is he using to get the pulse lights everytime he touches a key? Can most keyboard do this or is it special software?
thanks for this...
Here early to learn the latest toss
I'm just getting back into SC and i keep getting destroyed by Zergling rush which would have happened well before you had and defense, how would you handle that?
1:25 what!? Haha 😂 I see what ya did there!
Winter in winter wow
I'm really curious how long he can keep the double entendre going.
how do you select 3 probe by shift clicking ? do i need to bind it from the menu it doesnt work for ,me :(
nice Lowko marine :)
@winterstarcraft how do i change my ingame command card buttons/UI colors?
thanks
ahhh now to go on the ladder after only having remembered the first minute of that
“Every day, you should play with yourself”😂😂
I didn't even realize you could play with only yourself
I'm dumb
Thanks Winter, I was checking Lowko's channel but his latest video on this is too old for the current patch
I googled more than played but i've got more than 30 game so is this guide for me 🤣
i'm new and i find out that it is really hard to use unit's skill during the combat because they're too close. how can i do
Which race do you think I should start with?
Super pylon :O
Didn’t know it exists
what keyboard is that? :O That is so awesome
Хорошая работа, очень полезное видео.
can you make a really slow guide without spamming hotkeys so we can see exactly wat u r doing. I can't keep up and sometimes I can't tell what you're building either
Not gonna lie this is probably the slowest I've ever seen anyone playing sc2
i think if you can't keep up with him in this video then maybe start out for yourself, because it's not really possible to go slower
You need to understand the basics. His beginner tutorials feel kinda dumb if you have played a little, but they are definitely good to learn what's important and how the game works.
What is the cosmetics Winter is using in this video? Is it still something that can be obtained?
When I want to play a melee match on my won I win immediately as soon as the match begins. How do I avoid that?
Thanks gamer
thats qewl and i got 4 tanks in base in 6 minutes good build
Maxing out for
is it really worth it to play with hotkeys? i'm used to play with mouse only