Totally agree Daniel. When the band released their EP You Made Me Realise, many of us felt something was changing in music (even if Jesus & Mary Chain had made the foundations). Saw them live some months later and they were fantastic. Loveless is pure genius and an album that has to be included in any list of greatest albums. Happy you finally found the entry to appreciate it.
I love how you have branched out to other kinds of music since I started watching your videos about a year ago. Your original music is going to be awesome, because you listen to lots of different music. I love your music Daniel. Some of your songs play in my head when I am at work. Keep up the good work. You might want to listen to the band Lush. Their album Deluxe is really good. This Mortal Coil and HIs Name is Alive is also very good.
Awesome to see you getting into bands like My Bloody Valentine and Interpol on your own, which then led to Gang of Four and Bauhaus requests. Shoegaze is one of my favourite genres along with post punk. To me, the best bands, the ones with staying power, are often an acquired taste and may even take years to fully appreciate but you'll never tire of them. For more shoegaze bands, some of whom branched out into other genres or created more unique styles, start with Ride (Seagull, OX4, Black Nite Crash), The Jesus and Mary Chain (Rollercoaster, Head On, Girlfriend) & Lush (Leaves me cold, Sweetness & Light, Bitter).
_Loveless_ didn't only take forever to make, the making of it almost took Creation Records into bankruptcy until they were rescued by the unexpected success of Oasis.
Kevin Shield's distorted, tortured guitar is a thing of awesome beauty and the ethereal female vocals provide a wonderful, touching counterpoint. Such a great and original band. Do check out their previous record 'Isn't Anything', which is also great.
I was a guitarist who grew up on heavy metal and then became infatuated with folk music for a time. My friend brought over a copy of loveless and left. I remember playing it and becoming enraged. This is not how good music is made I thought to myself. I had yet to experience experimental noise pop like sonic youth yet. But I remember feeling a compulsion to keep putting the album on and listening to it, and one night a friend came over and brought shrooms and we put this on and it all clicked at that point. l understood this was a bonafide masterpiece. I will always be grateful to that friend who challenged what I thought music was supposed to sound like. There's no rules in music! There's no rules in life!
If you wanna dive into shoegaze may i recommend Slowdive - Souvlaki album which is extremely dreamy or Ride - Nowehere album which is extremely loud and heavy in parts. The Holy trinity of Shoegaze is these 3 albums, Loveless, Souvlaki and Nowhere
How did they get those sounds ? It was “glassy” never heard anything quite like it. Sonic satisfaction. Daniel I know doing reactions is probably the least important thing for you to do. Play other stuff or take a break, don’t burn out on it. Thanks for all the quality reactions and music etc. it’s a pleasure.
A very special song to me. Brings me back to my first year of college in 1991 when this came out. It brings back memories of unrequited love and late-night solitary walks.
I was lucky enough to see MBV at the Roskilde festival in 2008, and I still have some tinnitus from it 14 years later. They were LOUD. A friend was standing at a burger stand about 100 metres from the stage; he claims that when MBV hit the first chord of the first song, *everyone* at the burger stand dropped their food in the dirt.
Wasn't a piece of cake to digest at first back when this was fresh but I took small bites and found it to be a gourmet delight. It's kind of hard to explain the appeal.
Been watching your reactions for over a year and I just like to say I enjoy your content. FYI: You are now in one of my all- time favorite genres ( Shoegaze)!!! Might I suggest Lush, Slowdive, Cocteau Twins, or a more rock-driven sound- Swervedriver. Awesome times those were😃 Thanks!!!
I know I've heard this but I can't remember where. I am digging it mightily. Just on Daniel's recommendation I'm gonna grab this album. Great analysis by Our Host (long may he react!).
Reciprocity is great :) I’m keen to hear your recommendations as well as you hearing ours. I know what you mean re: new music burnout. I love discovering new music, but sometimes it just isn’t what your brain wants. Nice track, I haven’t listened to a lot of MBV before.
Re: being put off by band names, I have to admit that I held off giving a chance to Teenage Fanclub because of their name, and now they're one of my favorite acts period.
Wow I’d rather forgotten about MBV and watching this sent me right back to the teenage me in the 80s discovering all sorts of new music. Many thanks Daniel
You mentioned Slowdive as being a well known shoegaze band the other bands i can mention are bands I followed back in the late 80's early 90's that I can recommend. A R Kane-Haunting RIDE-Like a daydream PALE SAINTS-Feather frame And could these tracks be considered the early shoegaze from the 70's early 80's I think they have that vibe? MX-80 Sound-Obsessive devotion BRIAN ENO-Needle in a camels eye
It reminds me of the Pan Galactic Gargle Blaster cocktail from Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy: like having your brains smashed out by a slice of lemon wrapped round a large gold brick.
Yes. The beauty of this album is why I'm *really* surprised you didn't like it from the start, especially given other stuff you do like. You liked Sonic Youth, and I've always thought of this as something lying between the noisier bits of Sonic Youth and the gorgeous lush dreaminess of Cocteau Twins. Hauntingly beautiful noise.
What you say about repeated listenings and then being able to hear the music is very key. Great music often doesn't hit you at first but pays off given repeated listenings. You'll also find other music of this genre will come to you more quickly having taken the time. Note: I've previously suggested a song by Wire, which is probably an influence of this band as they cover the exact song I suggested. You might like listening to the original then follow that up with the MBV cover.
I love the way Only Shallow just knocks you over from the first notes. Such a powerful opener. Have you checked out Curve? Check out Fait Accompli or Horror Head from their album Doppleganger. Similar feel, similar breathy vocals, a little more in your face and rhythmic, but I think you might like them.
Try Spaceman 3 and specifically Loop. Shoegaze elements, but with irresistible repetition and monstrous riffage. The former are a more laid back proposition, aside from the call to arms of "Revolution". Start with Loop's "Fade Out" masterpiece!
I started with MBV when the follow up album Isn't Anything was out, so I always feel a bit more fond of that. I think on Isn't Anything the dynamics between feedback noise and melody lean a bit more towards melody. I saw them live back in the days and yes, they were extremely loud. The pushed up volume was part of the music. You felt it more than just listening. I even have a Kevin Shields autograph from 2005 (the time "between albums") I never liked the shoegaze genre in general so much, to me it was a bit too "tame". What I loved was the loud/quiet dynamics and the melodies in the center of the noise, as found in the Jesus & Mary Chain or Dinosaur Jr. Talking about the Jesus & Mary Chain, I'd start with the first album Psychocandy, or the hit songs "Some candy talking" or "Just like Honey". It was so new and different to everything else in 1985. As I'm a huge Dinosaur Jr. fan I couldn't say where to start. Maybe with their first "hit" Freakscene. Or with a banger like the song "Alone" with the mighty beautiful guitars. They brought the "prog" guitar solos back to alternative music in the late 80's. Nobody did that at that time, so they kind of co-founded the grunge music of the 90's.
I can quite understand how you wouldn't immediately get into MBV. I have mixed feelings about them (which could have been awkward, as a friend of mine is in their touring band). There is no argument that their sound was ground breaking and I love Only Shallow and Soon. My issue is that they didn't develop the sound. Even when they came back 20-plus years later, the new album sounded like they could have recorded it the next day after Loveless. They also don't have much truck with the concept of a middle eight, so sometimes the verse - chorus - verse - chorus can drag after a while (I think that many of the tracks on Loveless could be a minute or more shorter and still say all they wanted to say).
maybe you should step back from this reaction stuff for a few months and regroup before this develops into a resentful burden. screw the YT algorithms. if you were able to reach this level once you can do it again even better with a clearer focus. who knows maybe the break will lead to other even more challenging interesting and rewarding opportunities or maybe it will just allow for your batteries to recharge... what ever you decide folks want you to be healthy and happy over more reactions. you are an honest person folks trust. if you need to step back or pause, just do it. no one wants this to become a chore for you. if it is becoming one then the pause is even more important to realize very soon in my opinion. You are maturing and changing everyday. You can't expect the same passion to be available for this over time when so many new opportunities to sow other passions present themselves. Focusing on your next gig will take A LOT of your time and energy. don't try to split the baby as they say. if you can't do it all then some decisions will be necessary and the channel may need to take a recoverable hit to ensure a capable Daniel is the outcome of your endeavors. All the best. With you in spirit no matter what you are working to accomplish.
Totally agree Daniel. When the band released their EP You Made Me Realise, many of us felt something was changing in music (even if Jesus & Mary Chain had made the foundations). Saw them live some months later and they were fantastic. Loveless is pure genius and an album that has to be included in any list of greatest albums. Happy you finally found the entry to appreciate it.
I love how you have branched out to other kinds of music since I started watching your videos about a year ago. Your original music is going to be awesome, because you listen to lots of different music. I love your music Daniel. Some of your songs play in my head when I am at work. Keep up the good work.
You might want to listen to the band Lush. Their album Deluxe is really good. This Mortal Coil and HIs Name is Alive is also very good.
Spooky is my favourite Lush album.
Saw them back in the day with Pavement and they were amazing.
Happy to listen along with a song you've heard before.
I'll second that!!
I saw My Bloody Valentine live for this album in Athens, GA at the 40 Watt with Dinosaur Jr. Also another great band.
Woozy Shoegaze of the highest order. In fact, My Bloody Valentine have no equals when it comes to sensory disorientation!
Such angelic chaos, could listen to this all night. Thanks for sharing, looking forward to more of your favorites. 💜
I got to see mbv in Atlanta when they toured for this album they were amazing live
For me, its the whammy bar tone-wobble dropped in which is the icing on the cake; brilliant!
I love 'Loveless.'
Awesome to see you getting into bands like My Bloody Valentine and Interpol on your own, which then led to Gang of Four and Bauhaus requests. Shoegaze is one of my favourite genres along with post punk. To me, the best bands, the ones with staying power, are often an acquired taste and may even take years to fully appreciate but you'll never tire of them. For more shoegaze bands, some of whom branched out into other genres or created more unique styles, start with Ride (Seagull, OX4, Black Nite Crash), The Jesus and Mary Chain (Rollercoaster, Head On, Girlfriend) & Lush (Leaves me cold, Sweetness & Light, Bitter).
_Loveless_ didn't only take forever to make, the making of it almost took Creation Records into bankruptcy until they were rescued by the unexpected success of Oasis.
Good to know Oasis served a purpose.
"Isn't Anything" is a more rewarding listen imo!
so awesome. do some lush. do some swervedriver
I picked up this CD after browsing through Amazon music. Really cool.
if they should ever go on tour again, make sure you see them
Kevin Shield's distorted, tortured guitar is a thing of awesome beauty and the ethereal female vocals provide a wonderful, touching counterpoint. Such a great and original band. Do check out their previous record 'Isn't Anything', which is also great.
Oh I see you already have. Do persevere with the previous record as it is a grower. x
I was a guitarist who grew up on heavy metal and then became infatuated with folk music for a time. My friend brought over a copy of loveless and left. I remember playing it and becoming enraged. This is not how good music is made I thought to myself. I had yet to experience experimental noise pop like sonic youth yet. But I remember feeling a compulsion to keep putting the album on and listening to it, and one night a friend came over and brought shrooms and we put this on and it all clicked at that point. l understood this was a bonafide masterpiece. I will always be grateful to that friend who challenged what I thought music was supposed to sound like. There's no rules in music! There's no rules in life!
Just listened to the whole album on Amazon. Still processing it. There are some epic tracks on it, especially the final number. Way cool.
If you wanna dive into shoegaze may i recommend Slowdive - Souvlaki album which is extremely dreamy or Ride - Nowehere album which is extremely loud and heavy in parts. The Holy trinity of Shoegaze is these 3 albums, Loveless, Souvlaki and Nowhere
How did they get those sounds ? It was “glassy” never heard anything quite like it. Sonic satisfaction. Daniel I know doing reactions is probably the least important thing for you to do. Play other stuff or take a break, don’t burn out on it. Thanks for all the quality reactions and music etc. it’s a pleasure.
I'll second that!!
YESSSSS
PLEASE MORE SHOEGAZE
You will love "When The Sun Hits" by Slowdive
A very special song to me. Brings me back to my first year of college in 1991 when this came out. It brings back memories of unrequited love and late-night solitary walks.
I’m down for all the shoegaze vibes. Love when you share your musical finds with us.
MBV and Sonic Youth were my favourite bands at the time..
This is going to be great. Good one.
I was lucky enough to see MBV at the Roskilde festival in 2008, and I still have some tinnitus from it 14 years later. They were LOUD. A friend was standing at a burger stand about 100 metres from the stage; he claims that when MBV hit the first chord of the first song, *everyone* at the burger stand dropped their food in the dirt.
Wasn't a piece of cake to digest at first back when this was fresh but I took small bites and found it to be a gourmet delight. It's kind of hard to explain the appeal.
Been watching your reactions for over a year and I just like to say I enjoy your content. FYI: You are now in one of my all- time favorite genres ( Shoegaze)!!! Might I suggest Lush, Slowdive, Cocteau Twins, or a more rock-driven sound- Swervedriver. Awesome times those were😃 Thanks!!!
I know I've heard this but I can't remember where. I am digging it mightily. Just on Daniel's recommendation I'm gonna grab this album. Great analysis by Our Host (long may he react!).
So glad you have found this genre, keep going xx
i agree! they were the Smashing Pumpkins before the Smashing Pumpkins
Reciprocity is great :) I’m keen to hear your recommendations as well as you hearing ours. I know what you mean re: new music burnout. I love discovering new music, but sometimes it just isn’t what your brain wants. Nice track, I haven’t listened to a lot of MBV before.
saw this band with dinosaur jr and another band I can’t recall, but nobody was as loud as mbv. Holy balls.
Re: being put off by band names, I have to admit that I held off giving a chance to Teenage Fanclub because of their name, and now they're one of my favorite acts period.
Wow I’d rather forgotten about MBV and watching this sent me right back to the teenage me in the 80s discovering all sorts of new music. Many thanks Daniel
Since you asked, shoegaze other than MBV and Slowdive:
- well-known: Lush
- more obscure: the first Asobi Seksu album, especially "Walk On The Moon"
Always liked Citrus more than Asobi Seksu's first album. Strings is one of my all time favorite Shoegaze songs.
You mentioned Slowdive as being a well known shoegaze band the other bands i can mention are bands I followed back in the late 80's early 90's that I can recommend.
A R Kane-Haunting
RIDE-Like a daydream
PALE SAINTS-Feather frame
And could these tracks be considered the early shoegaze from the 70's early 80's I think they have that vibe?
MX-80 Sound-Obsessive devotion
BRIAN ENO-Needle in a camels eye
It reminds me of the Pan Galactic Gargle Blaster cocktail from Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy: like having your brains smashed out by a slice of lemon wrapped round a large gold brick.
thanks for the chuckle... and I agree!
Yes. The beauty of this album is why I'm *really* surprised you didn't like it from the start, especially given other stuff you do like. You liked Sonic Youth, and I've always thought of this as something lying between the noisier bits of Sonic Youth and the gorgeous lush dreaminess of Cocteau Twins. Hauntingly beautiful noise.
What you say about repeated listenings and then being able to hear the music is very key. Great music often doesn't hit you at first but pays off given repeated listenings. You'll also find other music of this genre will come to you more quickly having taken the time. Note: I've previously suggested a song by Wire, which is probably an influence of this band as they cover the exact song I suggested. You might like listening to the original then follow that up with the MBV cover.
I love the way Only Shallow just knocks you over from the first notes. Such a powerful opener. Have you checked out Curve? Check out Fait Accompli or Horror Head from their album Doppleganger. Similar feel, similar breathy vocals, a little more in your face and rhythmic, but I think you might like them.
Check out Ride Leave Them All Behind. Another Shoegaze classic
Try Spaceman 3 and specifically Loop. Shoegaze elements, but with irresistible repetition and monstrous riffage. The former are a more laid back proposition, aside from the call to arms of "Revolution". Start with Loop's "Fade Out" masterpiece!
I started with MBV when the follow up album Isn't Anything was out, so I always feel a bit more fond of that. I think on Isn't Anything the dynamics between feedback noise and melody lean a bit more towards melody. I saw them live back in the days and yes, they were extremely loud. The pushed up volume was part of the music. You felt it more than just listening. I even have a Kevin Shields autograph from 2005 (the time "between albums")
I never liked the shoegaze genre in general so much, to me it was a bit too "tame". What I loved was the loud/quiet dynamics and the melodies in the center of the noise, as found in the Jesus & Mary Chain or Dinosaur Jr.
Talking about the Jesus & Mary Chain, I'd start with the first album Psychocandy, or the hit songs "Some candy talking" or "Just like Honey". It was so new and different to everything else in 1985.
As I'm a huge Dinosaur Jr. fan I couldn't say where to start. Maybe with their first "hit" Freakscene. Or with a banger like the song "Alone" with the mighty beautiful guitars. They brought the "prog" guitar solos back to alternative music in the late 80's. Nobody did that at that time, so they kind of co-founded the grunge music of the 90's.
I hope you are still going to be doing your Chanel.
Another band/album: Medicine 'Shot Forth Self Living.'
Extremely loud live... uncomfortable at times, but sonically brilliant!!!
I didn't take the earplugs they were handing out, which was a mistake. Probably did permanent damage 😅 Great show though
@@TheGreatBLT ditto, still experience tinnitus symptoms
I never saw them, but I saw Ride in a little club. My ears have never been the same.
Yep, I thought 'My Chemical Romance' was a shoe gazer band and 'Primal Scream' was a Grindcore band! Seriously, by the way!
Try Ride. High-powered shoegaze.
I have their first two albums based purely on their love of Talk Talk's last two albums. They knew which side their bread was buttered!
You might like old Sonic Youth
Shoegaze is a very shallow marketing description of their music.
It makes sense though.
I can quite understand how you wouldn't immediately get into MBV. I have mixed feelings about them (which could have been awkward, as a friend of mine is in their touring band). There is no argument that their sound was ground breaking and I love Only Shallow and Soon. My issue is that they didn't develop the sound. Even when they came back 20-plus years later, the new album sounded like they could have recorded it the next day after Loveless. They also don't have much truck with the concept of a middle eight, so sometimes the verse - chorus - verse - chorus can drag after a while (I think that many of the tracks on Loveless could be a minute or more shorter and still say all they wanted to say).
How DARE you react to some music that you love and are passionate about!
☺
Change it up! 👍
It took three tries!?
Kiss a girl in black by fleeting joys pls
I would miss you if you did. I didn't care for that one sorry Daniel
maybe you should step back from this reaction stuff for a few months and regroup before this develops into a resentful burden. screw the YT algorithms. if you were able to reach this level once you can do it again even better with a clearer focus. who knows maybe the break will lead to other even more challenging interesting and rewarding opportunities or maybe it will just allow for your batteries to recharge...
what ever you decide folks want you to be healthy and happy over more reactions. you are an honest person folks trust. if you need to step back or pause, just do it. no one wants this to become a chore for you. if it is becoming one then the pause is even more important to realize very soon in my opinion. You are maturing and changing everyday. You can't expect the same passion to be available for this over time when so many new opportunities to sow other passions present themselves. Focusing on your next gig will take A LOT of your time and energy. don't try to split the baby as they say. if you can't do it all then some decisions will be necessary and the channel may need to take a recoverable hit to ensure a capable Daniel is the outcome of your endeavors. All the best. With you in spirit no matter what you are working to accomplish.