How To Replace Rear Brake Pads and Rotors - Volkswagen MK6 Golf GTI (EOS, Jetta, Beetle, A3, S3)
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►A complete tutorial on how to remove and replace rear brake pads and rotors on a Volkswagen MK6 Golf GTI. This tutorial also applies to a Volkswagen Golf, Beetle, EOS, and an Audi A3, S3, A3 Sportback E-Tron.
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good to open the break fluid reservoir before rewinding the caliper piston so that you don't have to fight extra pressure and don't blow a seal!
You're right Nathan that step never hurts!
Also clean the hub face before fitting the new brake disc
Good practice as these cars are getting on in years now and seals fail as they age.
Love this guy ,makes the job simple to follow ,great tutorial 👌👍
Thanks for this video. I'm doing this in next few days on my GLI with Zimmerman rotors and Akebono Euro ceramic pads.
Did you hear or saw me when I ordered the same thing....hhh....smart choice....doing it nest week on my 2013 golf tdi!
Great video, thank you.
Another brilliant tutorial 👌👍
Great video. Very well explained.
Thank you!
Great instruction video dude. You really showed all the details. This was a home RUN.
To the best of my understanding through research, these are the torque specs and part numbers of the caliper bolts, which you are encouraged to replace, especially the guide bolts.
Front caliper mount bolt (190 Nm torque) (part N90948802)
Front caliper guide bolt (30 Nm torque) (part H5025W)
Rear caliper mount bolt (90 Nm torque + 90 degrees) (part N91168901)
Rear caliper guide bolt (35 Nm torque) (part 14130)
That's the dumbest thing i've ever heard...
Also, I am assuming the process should be very similar with the 253mm rotors (TRW calipers)? These were shown on the 272mm (Bosch caliper) ones from the looks of it.
Thank you for the video! It would be helpful if in the intro the tools/attachment sizes are shown.
I saw this other video where to avoid spillage of brake fluid reservoir, technician loosen the nut on caliber to let brake fluid out at that end and then (as your retracting the piston )retighten that nut
You saved me, i couldnt figure out how the hell to use the piston tool, thank you so much
You're welcome, Mark! Happy we could help!
Is this necessary to do? Or a step I can skip? If so why is it necessary?
@@zuidkb7312 if the piston is not retracted the caliper will not go back on. Make sure to open the reservoir when resetting to let off the pressure, I learned that the hard way when my caliper seal broke. I keep a rebuild kit for front and rear now because a new caliper is $250!
4:29 The rear caliper carrier bolt wont budge a bit. What should I do?
You did not clean the hub prior to assembly of the rotor.
I noticed that as well. Gareth Foley cleaned his...
@@marathongaming1881me too 😎 we’re so smart.
I know this is old but is there anything special to be done to reseat (push out) the brake caliper piston once the rotor is back in place?
I liked the video. have a question. Once you have retracted the caliber piston, how do you prime the caliber piston to apply pressure to the rotor ? Pump the brakes?
yes
what about the caliper pins? Should they not be removed, cleaned and re-greased to ensure smooth operation and avoid seizing?
It would never hurt to do that as well!
Can I use a aircat wrench with my compressor to loosen the 14mm bolts or use my Aldeco digital clutch wrench?? I bought them just for the clipper carrier removals on my cars ... good for tight spaces but never used them yet... they are rated 60-100 torque but will find out if it’s enough
You should be able to!
I got those red calipers for the 272mm rotors to swap to my Mk6 Jetta that currently has drum brakes.. I’m assuming these will be mounted on the left side of the rotor still like the Mk6 Golf in this video?
Yes, they should be!
Thank You
You're welcome, Raul!
can you list that caliper piston tool and confirm the original VW Bosch pad is semi metallic as thees Textar ones are you recommend
CTA Tools 1462 Disc Brake Caliper Kit
Okay why is my brake caliber bracket so hard to come off ? You make it look easy 😂
I can't get the carrier bolt off at 4:29
Do you need that special caliper retracting tool or does a standard tool without the notches work?
Hello, for this you will need a tool that can spin the piston back into the caliper housing. There are multiple forms of this tool out there that you can source instead of the CTA unit we used!
You lost me at the vice grip that's 19 mm square use a wrench...
Where can I get that t-shirt 🧐
Does you have the torque specs for the splash shield behind the wheel bearing? Doing a drums to disc conversion on my Mk6 Jetta and put it pretty hand tight but don’t know if that’s gunna be safe
Those dust shields should be perfectly safe hand tight!
@@fcpeuro awesome. Should the bolts be replaced? I already ordered some bolts and going to go back in a torque everything down to spec but was wondering if I’m doing more then what’s needed
How about a DIY bake job for a 2017 GLI?
What are the torque settings on these??? Especially the triple square 14mm caliper bracket bolts??? Also, anyone have a service manual? I wonder if these are reusable.
I have an audi S3 and for the long 14mm triple square it is 90Nm + 90 degrees. The other bolts are 35Nm. But this is for the Audi S3. I think the other ones are similar.
@@Guerrini2954 I just finished doing this on my MK 6 Jetta. These are the same specs I found on a message board.
@@adamwenzl4485 this answer also agrees with the Haynes repair manual
Just ordered s set if triple sockets from you, of course it doesn't come with a size 14, only 12 and 16
Without a car lift it’s VERY hard to remove those long bolts!
I can't get the carrier bolt off at 4:29 what should I do?
@@grand_master_glass Ive got a Passat B8 & didnt need to take the bracket off to change the rotor. There's enough room to manoeuvre it past.
@@belchnasty not in my case :/
Sit on the ground and push with your feet with a decent sized ratchet worked in 2 seconds for me🤷
if you have small brake discs you dont need to remove caliper bracket to change discs. Just slide it out and back in at an angle
Where are your safety glasses under the car :P JK, great vid for beginners. You guys have a vid on how to change the DSG fluid through the filter? I think it would help a lot of people out....saves me $675 for a DYI vs having someone else do it
Will you ruin a piston that winds if you just push them straight in with a C-clamp? Thanks man.
Yes
@@all4amd344 I figured that out the hard way lol.
@@shanek6582 Rippppp
If you don't have the tool to turn it back in, you can use some angled needle nose pliers to turn it. It's slow af and annoying, but it works in the end
Do you need to purge the brake like afterwards or is that optional
You don’t need to because the caliper was not replaced. You should do a brake flush every two years however. If you’re not sure when it was last done, do it so give you piece of mind. Never hurts
Does 2006 and 2013 vw golf gti got same sizes rotors and pads
2006 and 2013 vw golf gti got same sizes rotors and pads
Thanks! I almost gave up 😂
I hear you I’m about to start day/attempt 3 from doing a rear drums to disc swap video on my Mk6 Jetta SE. Had to get shorter bolts for the caliper bracket (to the spindle) because I have the non independent torsion beam suspension on the Mk6 Jetta which has a much thinner spindle. The bolts for the GTI are longer because of the spindle being thicker. Wish I woulda known this before because I kept threading it in and clamped the caliper bracket to the rotor on accident! Haha the rotor is new too and there’s a very small grove with a little red mark from the caliper bracket imbedded to the rotor. Do you think the rotor is toast?
Fun tip#1
If you don't have the 14mm triple square on hand, a 1/2 drive ratchet actually fits in perfectly without a socket on. It's not as ideal as the real tool but it easily got the bolts off for me without stripping anything.
That's interesting! Thanks for the tip!
Did this , got 1 out and the 2nd one ended up stripping. Currently trying to find a way to get it out :(
@@Trippymk8 well, yeahhh I feel ya on that. It's fucked. currently dealing with this same issue almost. Bottom bolt isn't moving at all.
@@Trippymk8 what’d you end up doing
DONT DO THIS you will strip your bolt
Can you add torque specs in the future? It helps a lot.
Absolutely, we have made it a standard on our videos since then!
those caliper pin bolts really arent that shallow, also a 19mm wrench on the pins works a lot better than a vise grip
15mm
I had a friend replace rear pads and rotors for me now there’s a rattling sound from one of the wheels every time I hit a bump in the road. Loose pad?
It definitely could be a loose pad, maybe its missing one of the brake pad retainers?
To retract the piston you can use a c clamp it’s probably cheaper
That's not going to work if the car has a push button parking brake. Do a video pushing the piston back with the push button parking brake with out the use of VAG COM
bruh mk6s dont have a push button but i see your point.
Link for parts used is for MK7 not MK6.
MK6 has 272mm rotors.
The rear long bolts is mandatory to be replaced by new ones.
What size in mm is that Zimmerman Rotor?
312mm
assume this is the same for mk7 tdi?
Hi Trevor, the process will be the same.
How to get stuck break piston back in
DO YOU NEED TO RESET THE HAND BRAKE
is this the same for the mk7 1.8tsi?
Hi Mitchell, same idea!
mark 6
A few items unmentioned that i will add: first time user of the caliper piston reset tool- place wrench inside the caliper between the plate and the lip of the clasp (that wraps around thread). This is so that when you are done winding the piston back, the tool will easily removed. I unknowingly made this mistake (plate was tight against clasp lip and thus very firmly clamped inside caliper. Lucky for me I was able to hammer it free.. but that was a colossal waste of time. Learn from my mistake. Also, if you are in your driveway on blocks: you will need to invent a 90° pipe extension for a stubby breaker bar to undo those 14M triple square bolts.
Thanks for the pointers, Jason!
Can I use a electric wrench that is 60-90 Pnds torque to remove those big bolts?? I got it for small spaces and will fit or better yet if I get a Aircat air wrench that Is compact with 100 Pnds torque will that help ?? I’m worried once I get to rear I can’t get caliper brackets off I have hear horror stories.. I have 2016 1.8t Jetta nothing looks rusted really it has 81000 miles with original pads/rotors still...
The wrench is a digital aldeco clutch wrench where I can switch the torque I will see if it’s 90 torque when I use it and see if it lives up to its name... paid 300 for it at sourcetools.com
Dave Strysko they are very tight. 100ft lb +.. i wouldn’t risk using a machine that could shear the bolt.. hand strength allows the feeling of if its working. I made my breaker bar extension with 3/4” threaded galvanized pipes. Worked like a charm.
Jason Saari will try it when I do the job just worried I’m going to be stuck with only being able to change the fronts 😐 I definitely will try it.. going to order a 1/2 breaker bar about 24 inch in length or I might just spend the $70 for a 1-40 inch 1/2 breaker bar... I have 1/2 and 3/8 breaker bars already but always good to have extras and they are short also... my only concern is the damn brackets on rear and definitely don’t want to take to VW they will charge crap load of money... .. I can’t find the torque specs for rear it’s extremely pissing me off lol I know the fronts are 90. I read the rear are 66 but I knew it was too good to be true
So these pistons on the brakes spin out when compressed or can I still push the Pistons back using a C-clamp
Hi Royce, the caliper pistons need to spin in when compressed, so you can't push them in using a C-clamp.
@@fcpeuro are you aware of any AutoZone or orielys having those tools for rent or for sale
Yes you can, I’ve done this job like 3 times now a d used a C clamp each time
C clamp for the front pistons only.
Don't forget to wash the rotor in soap or brake cleaner to get rid of the oily anti-rust film. If you dont the rotors will not perform at their best.
how different is it gonna be with Golf 7 TSI?
They are very similar in process, the main difference would be if your car has a manual parking brake vs electronic. Manual would be pretty much the same as this video. Electronic parking brake would require a VAG-COM or similar scan tool that can interact with the rear calipers.
@@fcpeuro Mine is manual transmission and manual parking brake. Any idea about the torque specifications on the 4 bolts (caliper and caliper bracket)? thanks
@@amirb715 Ok, so since you have a manual parking brake you can follow all the instructions in this video.
What size is the socket for the rear caliper bolt?
it's a M14 Spline socket
It took me about 2 days to find a bolt for that size kinda hard to find might want to order online
Should lube the clips and pin guides
I have the exact same car but u sent me a wrong pads that did not fit in my car's caliper
Sorry to hear you got the wrong parts Edward... have you contacted service@fcpeuro.com yet? I can assure you they'll get you taken care of as soon as possible.
Haahah rotor in bad shape !!! You should see mine!!
Werd. LOL
I love how volkswagen's brakes do not have indicators on them... So there's no indication of when they go bad... You just hear metal on metal...
Normal vehicles have indicators on the brakes that let you know your brakes are getting low... Because you hear the indicator hitting the rotor...
But not volkswagen... Nope, When the brakes go bad they go bad... Nothing to let you know.. Other than metal scraping on metal...
My caliper seized and never knew it was coming until I smelt burning metal and saw sparks in my mirror
Emkay? Really FCP Euro? Are you trolling us?
I think it was just a slip on Jay's part - we know it's "mark six" not "Emkay six" :) We all make mistakes!
No torque specs, hard fail
Terrible tutorial. What about torque specs for each part?