Ranking Every Naruto Character From Weakest to Strongest

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  • @richcantgame
    @richcantgame Před 2 lety +7193

    “I’m pretty sure I know people irl who can beat Kankuro” 😭😭

    • @Footballazz
      @Footballazz Před 2 lety +603

      This had me FLOORED LMFAOOOOOOOO

    • @AgarioSplitrunner
      @AgarioSplitrunner Před 2 lety +296

      Genin Naruto ez diff 360 noscope Kankuro with his fat momma and daddy barbie dolls. Genin Naruto is stronger than kurama Naruto. Genin Naruto defeated third hokage who is the strongest hokage.
      Don't let that distract you from the fact that Sakura saying "I finally caught up" gave Jiraya 7 broken ribs from laughing

    • @twixtys3121
      @twixtys3121 Před 2 lety +48

      Nah because I think I really do 😂 my sensei no cap claps him

    • @AgarioSplitrunner
      @AgarioSplitrunner Před 2 lety +103

      @@twixtys3121 Madara enters for first time
      Madara: 4th war shinobis 🥷 attack me
      Kakashi: no, our Kankuro will 1v1 360 noscope you
      Ez diff
      Madara dies from laughing

    • @outoftime6984
      @outoftime6984 Před 2 lety +15

      Time stamp?

  • @leaffinite3828
    @leaffinite3828 Před 2 lety +2777

    The problem with "chunin-level" is that 90% of adult ninjas are chunin, so it varies wildly

    • @djh2252
      @djh2252 Před 2 lety +53

      Fax bro and mfs was doubting Lee 💀

    • @eclate95
      @eclate95 Před 2 lety +562

      Yeah that tier is kinda useless in naruto, most genins in the manga can demolish chunins, and when these genins finally reach the chunin rank, they fight against akatsuki members...

    • @legendeez414
      @legendeez414 Před 2 lety +12

      @@eclate95 ikr XD

    • @epictony5397
      @epictony5397 Před 2 lety +1

      teens*

    • @leaffinite3828
      @leaffinite3828 Před 2 lety +16

      @@epictony5397 no, adults

  • @lonewolf7396
    @lonewolf7396 Před rokem +549

    Swag: "At worst, Like if she like stole your credit card info, she's ten tails"
    Also Swag: *Puts her back below Ten Tails into God*

    • @leonglitch
      @leonglitch Před rokem +66

      Well then Sakura just stole his credit card info. Simple.

    • @lonewolf7396
      @lonewolf7396 Před rokem +8

      @@leonglitch I guess so. Lol

    • @MattBnl2ih
      @MattBnl2ih Před rokem +5

      @@leonglitch and the debit card!

    • @junior523
      @junior523 Před rokem +6

      She had stupid plot buff, she should have next to war arc Sakura

    • @starsomen
      @starsomen Před 6 měsíci +12

      ⁠@@junior523naruto and sasuke receiving asspull power up from their magical ninja sky grandpa wasn’t “stupid plot buff”?

  • @AlexYtWasTaken
    @AlexYtWasTaken Před rokem +262

    Is it just me or did Tenten get more screen time here than in all of Naruto and Naruto Shippuden combined

    • @DirtyBobBojangles
      @DirtyBobBojangles Před 2 měsíci +3

      Nah just you trying to be funny with a lame, old joke. 🤷‍♂️

    • @DirtyBobBojangles
      @DirtyBobBojangles Před měsícem +2

      @@Shika47_ notice how I'm not wrong

    • @Shika47_
      @Shika47_ Před měsícem +3

      @@DirtyBobBojangles notice how you are wrong? That's like being on sb ass for making an ohio joke 2-3 years ago. The joke was popular then and now it's not.

    • @DirtyBobBojangles
      @DirtyBobBojangles Před měsícem +1

      @@Shika47_ dude I seriously thought you would have noticed 🤦‍♂️
      The tenten joke is WAY older than a year, and this comment is about a year old. It's been old since he made that comment, so my statement stands correct. I can't believe I had to walk you through that.

    • @DirtyBobBojangles
      @DirtyBobBojangles Před měsícem +1

      @@Shika47_ you're a clear example of brain rot. Get off your phone and read a book.

  • @doggos4120
    @doggos4120 Před 2 lety +5667

    Can we honestly just appreciate the amount of effort Swag puts into his videos?

    • @greyworld6242
      @greyworld6242 Před 2 lety +12

      True that!

    • @6paths988
      @6paths988 Před 2 lety +50

      I haven’t gotten through the entire thing but I’m hoping to see kakuzu On the highest tier that raw durability 😪

    • @nxggascantrollwitthefamily
      @nxggascantrollwitthefamily Před 2 lety +18

      after constantly going on month long hiatuses it better be

    • @ghozyi.h.8491
      @ghozyi.h.8491 Před 2 lety +2

      Even watching it need a lot of effort

    • @TheBelac58
      @TheBelac58 Před 2 lety +2

      Man puts his all into every videos. Favorite CZcams by far

  • @pariahdark2
    @pariahdark2 Před 2 lety +2509

    Jesus, I didn’t imagine he would put that many characters in this tier list. That’s dedication!

    • @tuglord02
      @tuglord02 Před 2 lety +32

      lord's name in vain sir.

    • @_Shackled
      @_Shackled Před 2 lety +62

      @@tuglord02 Stop it lmao

    • @tuglord02
      @tuglord02 Před 2 lety +7

      @@_Shackled it is what it is lol✍️

    • @sewerwater7388
      @sewerwater7388 Před 2 lety +35

      @@tuglord02 maybe he doesn’t believe in Jesus lol

    • @Viroh
      @Viroh Před 2 lety +5

      Dedication to money

  • @Manlikepegasus
    @Manlikepegasus Před 10 měsíci +82

    Choza states in the war arc that it’s crazy how choji can enter butterfly mode without the red pill. It’s implied choji surpassed the members of his clan, being the only one to ever use buttefly mode without the pills. So to answer(“where are the pills?”), he don’t need the pills anymore.

    • @ImSuave459
      @ImSuave459 Před 6 měsíci +1

      Nah choza doesn’t use the pills either so he might just be shocked that choji did it so fast

    • @Manlikepegasus
      @Manlikepegasus Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@ImSuave459 choza doesn’t enter butterfly mode. Read before commenting

    • @ImSuave459
      @ImSuave459 Před 6 měsíci +2

      @@Manlikepegasus he literally does

    • @ImSuave459
      @ImSuave459 Před 6 měsíci +2

      @@Manlikepegasus databook lists him as a user

    • @Manlikepegasus
      @Manlikepegasus Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@ImSuave459 we have never seen him use it and he literally said "choji is enterting butterfly mode without the pills". Insinuating hes never seen that done before. He can prob enter butterfly mode with the pills, but definitely not without them. The whole point of naruto is that the next generation is always that much more powerful.

  • @WesternCommie
    @WesternCommie Před rokem +130

    When it comes to Choji's pills, the draw backs might be why he didn't use them. If the red pill is eaten, death is imminent. The fifth was able to naturalize the poison, preventing death. He was able to use his butterfly mode without the pills during the war arc, which can usually only be done by use of the pills.

    • @nightdrivenen7909
      @nightdrivenen7909 Před rokem +11

      Hello from nine months into the future: the pills are to assist those of the Akamichi clan whom have not properly learned how to use the Butterfly Mode. They are not a necessity - but rather like a training wheel to help someone get started in their clan into turning their body mass into chakra. A seasoned Akamichi should be able to use Butterfly Mode without the pills due to practice alone.

    • @rays5163
      @rays5163 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Using steroids isn't a skill

  • @enrath4078
    @enrath4078 Před 2 lety +802

    I just want to mention the Hidan stands no chance against Gaara in any way shape or form. Not saying Gaara is a god-tier monster part one, but his kit is a hard counter to Hidan. Hidan doesn't have any damage output to get to Gaaras blood. Also, Gaara could and would turn the battlefield into sand, making Hidans ritual circle impossible to maintain or or even draw.

    • @user-cs4ji3or6s
      @user-cs4ji3or6s Před 2 lety +11

      Tru that

    • @zdiii3795
      @zdiii3795 Před 2 lety +12

      Not sure if his ritual has to be on the ground he could be able to pull it off on a tree or something but yeah he is still ass

    • @enrath4078
      @enrath4078 Před 2 lety +46

      @@zdiii3795 Perhaps not on the ground per se, but it does have to be complete, unbroken, and with him inside. And against an opponent like Gaara who can terraform at will, its just too hard a counter I believe for Hidan to have any kind of answer for.

    • @zdiii3795
      @zdiii3795 Před 2 lety +54

      @@enrath4078 yeah Garra hard counters him

    • @allaboutthemurzic
      @allaboutthemurzic Před 2 lety +14

      That is true
      He could tank all of Hidans attacks without drawing blood

  • @WhackyBC
    @WhackyBC Před 2 lety +393

    Hashirama got disrespected. How is EMS Madara above him when Hashirama literally won when they fought???

    • @abaileyjr97
      @abaileyjr97 Před 2 lety +157

      Because that’s swags favorite character

    • @SRVaris
      @SRVaris Před 2 lety +25

      It goes like this, In a Flash back during the battle with Madara when Hashirama captures the Nine tails he is badly hurt he has a Swollen eye multiple cuts on his face and blood everywhere however at the end of the fight Hashirama is in much better shape so that means Madara was actually beating Hashirama up quite a bit so that might mean that Madara was Actually stronger of the 2 but Hashirama could just outlast Madara and keep taking damage while Madara couldn't heal from the attacks he was hit with.

    • @abaileyjr97
      @abaileyjr97 Před 2 lety +85

      @@SRVaris doesn’t mean madara was stronger. He just was strong enough to severely hurt hashirama. Hashirama was stronger at that point.

    • @SRVaris
      @SRVaris Před 2 lety +3

      ​@@abaileyjr97 Madara at the end of the fight showed no wounds at all so that kinda means he was beating Hashirama up

    • @Oreo_166
      @Oreo_166 Před 2 lety +12

      Forget that. Was I the only one who realized they actually ranked ep. 1 Naruto over a lot of his later iterations...??

  • @couragedadawg6210
    @couragedadawg6210 Před rokem +54

    *"With the nunchucks he is like resisting Kamui"* -Swagkage

  • @363gizmo
    @363gizmo Před rokem +308

    Please give us that 4 hour discussion video, where you reorganize the list.

    • @bbrandumbb
      @bbrandumbb Před rokem +38

      Doesn't even make sense. How are Naruto and Sasuke above Kaguya? Indra and Ashura above the Sage of Six Paths himself, Hagoromo? Itachi being stronger than Nagato? Especially Sakura (Kaguya Fight) being stronger than Obito and Madara when all she did was heal Obito and punch Kaguya ONCE when she was falling mid-air with her full attention against Naruto and Sasuke from sealing her away for eternity.

    • @GoaterKensei
      @GoaterKensei Před rokem +3

      @@bbrandumbbFax ong it makes no sense tbh

    • @joaquincasascortes624
      @joaquincasascortes624 Před rokem +16

      They placed Hashirama above Edo Hashirama, but Edo Tobirama above Tobirama. Also he placed EMS Madara above Hashirama, even though Hashirama literally won EVERY SINGLE FIGHT he had against Madara while holding back to not kill him. At the end, Madara used the nine tails to try to defeat Hashirama and it didn't even work lmao, he got killed by Hashirama and only got saved by Izanagi.
      This list has so many wrong placements lol

    • @blakehaymore1445
      @blakehaymore1445 Před 8 měsíci

      @@bbrandumbbfr obito no diffs her obviously

    • @WhyNot-sb9vx
      @WhyNot-sb9vx Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@joaquincasascortes624 He also put Juubi Madara below Six Paths Naruto and Rinne-Sharingan Sasuke, despite the fact he practically low-diffed both of them with barely a scratch-while actively not caring about the fight and focusing on something else entirely.

  • @rc23dp2o
    @rc23dp2o Před 2 lety +342

    The amount of fuckin dedication to make this video, props up to you

    • @claytonminix4537
      @claytonminix4537 Před 2 lety

      Ong

    • @weibin6407
      @weibin6407 Před 2 lety +1

      Nice pfp lul

    • @degend2239
      @degend2239 Před 2 lety +1

      I have a list too, honestly pretty similar to swag's list here. i did end up trying to put the wierdo boruto scale characters somewhere tho, so those were a bit wonky, but other than that, my list was pretty close.
      czcams.com/video/6q_VUfkusUQ/video.html

    • @mannataylor8002
      @mannataylor8002 Před 2 měsíci

      It was a lot of effort, but most of it made no sense. Not hating or trolling, but my observation, and not my opinion see the facts. The way they are judging what tier people go in is shid

  • @wdfmentalgenesis2138
    @wdfmentalgenesis2138 Před 2 lety +492

    Tbh, Swag is one if not my favorite Naruto CZcamsrs. He gives us conent that is great and he dedicates alot of time to us. Thanks Rob.

    • @Staybinky
      @Staybinky Před 2 lety +3

      WILLPOWAA

    • @DaShooter12
      @DaShooter12 Před 2 lety +14

      Oh yea, Swag is the king of Naruto CZcams with all due respect to everyone else. I love this community and I fuck with everyone, but swag is such a G

    • @AmHotGarbage
      @AmHotGarbage Před 2 lety +5

      Natutuber*

    • @alexanderasher8037
      @alexanderasher8037 Před 2 lety +7

      No contest for me. He is the best Naruto channel.

    • @9megame
      @9megame Před 2 lety +5

      Yeah I Love swag and Seth's videos they are the best Naruto CZcamsrs you could argue either of them are but I think we can all agree it's between those two

  • @Riviscira
    @Riviscira Před rokem +57

    love how Inos rank gives him such a headache lmao

  • @piratehunterzoro702
    @piratehunterzoro702 Před rokem +85

    A little late but a laser gun damaged Goku off guard and that’s just how anime off guard works.

    • @appleseed4672
      @appleseed4672 Před rokem +1

      Well, does Naruto have something like HxH where they reinforce their bodies with nen so the damage they receive is lessened? Cuz I don't think there was anything like that in Naruto from what I remember

    • @YourMom-dd3jo
      @YourMom-dd3jo Před rokem +15

      @@appleseed4672 No bc both naruto and sasuke have a laser gun level off guard moment. Naruto when sasukes sword gets controlled and stabs him in the stomach and sasukes when he gets his rinnegan gouged out

    • @piratehunterzoro702
      @piratehunterzoro702 Před rokem +9

      @@YourMom-dd3jo Yep, exactly there are just some tropes in anime that will always be inconsistent. Just like sealing techniques. No matter how strong a opponent is compared to the other person 90% of the time it works.

    • @projekttaku1
      @projekttaku1 Před rokem +1

      @@YourMom-dd3jo its because the force behind the weapons was hard enough to penetrate them, not because they were off guard or atleast not mostly.

    • @YourMom-dd3jo
      @YourMom-dd3jo Před rokem +6

      @@projekttaku1 naruto tamks the juubi bomb in base and makes it out with a broken arm at most. theres no way an on gaurd adult naruto is a;most dying to a sword

  • @yovis300
    @yovis300 Před 2 lety +404

    Sasuke went from *"I am the strongest in this world right now"* to *"I'm out of chakra"*
    Naruto: Stop with the drugs

    • @luboslavkorenko1774
      @luboslavkorenko1774 Před 2 lety +37

      And the medal for the most cringe and overused joke goes to….

    • @jackysanchy1988
      @jackysanchy1988 Před 2 lety +53

      The “Im out of chakra” joke is just an excuse in the boruto filler, so the new gen could do more shit. IM OUTNOF CHAKRA WAS NEVER IN THE MANGA WHICH MAKES IT NON CANON THEREFORE HE NEVER SAID IT BECAUSE ITS FILLER

    • @pre4291
      @pre4291 Před 2 lety +18

      @@jackysanchy1988 nah bro one tailed Naruto is Urashiki level please believe me

    • @courtneylankford7627
      @courtneylankford7627 Před 2 lety

      @@pre4291 no.

    • @pre4291
      @pre4291 Před 2 lety +10

      @@courtneylankford7627 nigga you fr don't get irony?

  • @clickmexd
    @clickmexd Před 2 lety +1940

    They just have better *raw durability*

    • @domesticmh4567
      @domesticmh4567 Před 2 lety +66

      They just have better *experience*

    • @zazz_
      @zazz_ Před 2 lety +97

      ehm ehm : " rasenshuriken ignores durability" "how the edo raikage tanked it ?" " cuz he had better RAW DURABILITY 1!1!1!!!!"

    • @geoxgaming8516
      @geoxgaming8516 Před 2 lety +47

      kakuzu>>>>ishiki

    • @mrochon121
      @mrochon121 Před 2 lety +2

      @@zazz_ lol

    • @simulatedaep
      @simulatedaep Před 2 lety +1

      w

  • @Eira_99
    @Eira_99 Před 11 měsíci +264

    The massive debate Sakura caused with that one punch, amazing.

    • @andreleandro6931
      @andreleandro6931 Před 10 měsíci +57

      Is the most overrated punch in the anime history, even Kisame would stomp Sakura

    • @gageadams6747
      @gageadams6747 Před 9 měsíci +35

      ​@andreleandro6931 now you are just being a little silly. Regardless of what you think really happened, sakura had the speed/stealth to avoid detection from a byakugan and the strength to physically damage someone not even naruto could properly damage, while using boil release. Which by the way is a technique that is said to give naruto unrivaled taijutsu power. I hate sakura as much as the next guy, but lets at least try to be genuine with the scaling

    • @UchihaObito551
      @UchihaObito551 Před 9 měsíci +21

      @@gageadams6747 this list is literally about Adult Sakura being more powerful than KCM2 Naruto . And Minato would eat her alive . Stop being 🤡

    • @jadturki1494
      @jadturki1494 Před 9 měsíci +44

      @@UchihaObito551 minato isnt touching kaguya, sakura not only did, but broke her horn off 😭

    • @lovefacts6229
      @lovefacts6229 Před 8 měsíci

      I THINK IT WAS JUST FOR SAKE OF NARRATIVE THATS WHY THE ENDING IS SO INCONSISTENT AND WEIRD
      @@gageadams6747

  • @balsastanisic1738
    @balsastanisic1738 Před rokem +99

    That placement of kaguya fight sakura literally made me want to hit myself in head 30 times

    • @Legit_ic
      @Legit_ic Před rokem +29

      Same bro they put her above naruto six paths who split pre tree madara and is stronger then 8 gate guy who sakara is no where near that

    • @Legit_ic
      @Legit_ic Před rokem +1

      After 3 days carried on watching the vid and six managed to make swagkage use his head a bit

    • @achv73
      @achv73 Před rokem +19

      I facepalmed for 5 minutes because of War Arc Sakura placement, then he placed Kaguyas Fight Sakura and I'm still gaining strength to continue watching this video holy fuck. You can't be that off

    • @kellerforrest345
      @kellerforrest345 Před rokem

      Sensible and based comment. Thank you

    • @Jonesquire
      @Jonesquire Před rokem +3

      I skipped ahead a bit, saw that, and immediately stopped watching the video lol. I get it, making a list like this is crazy hard, but it ain’t even close.

  • @clickmexd
    @clickmexd Před 2 lety +1826

    Let's be real, Tenten bodies the entire boruto verse

    • @kyuubi1315
      @kyuubi1315 Před 2 lety +81

      Tenten meme's need to be put to rest, beating a dead horse out here

    • @lopeshick9607
      @lopeshick9607 Před 2 lety +286

      @@kyuubi1315 I’m assuming dead horses exist in the boruto verse so yes ur right tenten would beat them too.

    • @kodoqbesar4301
      @kodoqbesar4301 Před 2 lety +77

      And Kakuzu eats Tenten because of that *raw durability*

    • @mlh1367
      @mlh1367 Před 2 lety +38

      @@kodoqbesar4301 she would literally one shot Kakuzu with Rising Twin Dragons

    • @kodoqbesar4301
      @kodoqbesar4301 Před 2 lety +63

      @@mlh1367
      But Kakuzu has that *raw durability* to survive the big bang.

  • @GuyInHisOwnWorld
    @GuyInHisOwnWorld Před 2 lety +671

    I think Kisame is being severely underestimated, but I like how you guys didn't downplay Sasori. The guy is an actual beast and people constantly downplay him since he was the first to die, but he is easily in the upper ranks of the Akatsuki with his hax poison.

    • @idunnygiveafock7640
      @idunnygiveafock7640 Před 2 lety +13

      He got killed by Sakurah though, that makes him fodder. Kid Konahamaru could've beaten him cuz he killed a path of pain. Plus Konahamarus teacher was better than Kakashi, so kid kona could beat Sakurah too. Probably at the same time.

    • @colbymcallister77
      @colbymcallister77 Před 2 lety +65

      Lol, a lot wrong with that statement, the main one being that you assume ONE of the weaker paths of pain is stronger than sasori, sasori should be able to 3v1 the 3 weaker paths of pain,

    • @lamontxx
      @lamontxx Před 2 lety +66

      @@idunnygiveafock7640 wasn’t Sakura being controlled by lady chiyo most of the fight?

    • @N0tMyFau1tTheyHateMe
      @N0tMyFau1tTheyHateMe Před 2 lety +80

      @@idunnygiveafock7640 Sakura had alot of prep time and Chiyo was helping her and Chiyo knew alot about Sasori had that antidote for his poison

    • @MichaelSmith-lo9hl
      @MichaelSmith-lo9hl Před 2 lety +61

      @@idunnygiveafock7640 Need to rewatch that fight Sakura had extensive help from Chiyo and even then, Sasori LET them win and it was spelled out pretty clearly.

  • @TheChristXYz
    @TheChristXYz Před rokem +44

    Swag and six should do a watch through of shippuden together as. A series, now that we're like so far away from shippuden being over, I don't think them rehashing episodes straight up would be a bad idea.

  • @coconutgun4383
    @coconutgun4383 Před rokem +12

    It’s so funny seeing these 2 going through serious mental gymnastics to figure out kishimotos plot holes like Sakura making Kaguya bleed

  • @Acidknights
    @Acidknights Před 2 lety +303

    Problem with scaling part 1 Naruto is the fact that he was arguably a low level chuunin fighter running around with a Jonin level jutsu. That Rasengan is dangerous 😅

    • @bank2378
      @bank2378 Před 2 lety +46

      Part 1 also had a lot of inconsistences with the kyuubi influences, its just hard to scale in general

    • @FlyXcur
      @FlyXcur Před 2 lety +32

      @@bank2378 it all just depended on how much chakra Kurama gave him that's why it's so hard to scale. The only clear thing is the more emotional Naruto is the more chakra Kurama gives.

    • @Divine_Finger_er
      @Divine_Finger_er Před 2 lety +9

      Don't forget how shadow clone jutsu was at least a jonin level or higher jutsu, his clones were actual living beings with feelings and thoughts, his whole aresenal actually was way past his level at that time period lol sometimes I wish he learned a bunch more jutsu from the forbidden scroll, homie would have been using Kage level jutsu

    • @cancelable43
      @cancelable43 Před 2 lety +1

      honestly rasengan might as well be kage lvl ngl

    • @coronin8587
      @coronin8587 Před 2 lety

      @@bank2378 Part 1 being part 1; Hiruzen is the strongest Kage behind Minato, Naruto is a genin that managed to overpower Haku, a character that a kiri swordsman said was better than him who, in turn, was better than Kakashi, and skill was lower on the totem pole than hard work.
      Part 2, in particular the war arc, straight up ruined everything established in part 1.

  • @user-vm2wi8no1s
    @user-vm2wi8no1s Před 2 lety +388

    I don't know if you're immensely dedicated or fucking insane to do this, but either way you've made my day.
    Amazing video, as always.

    • @drinkswatere
      @drinkswatere Před 2 lety +6

      It’s his job sooooo…?

    • @user-vm2wi8no1s
      @user-vm2wi8no1s Před 2 lety +7

      @@drinkswatere I was saying he went above and beyond for this video, which he didn't have to do.
      Which part of that was confusing?

    • @AK-yv1kp
      @AK-yv1kp Před 2 lety +2

      @@user-vm2wi8no1s yeah if he didnt do *every* single character, no one would have an issue. he chose to be this thorough himself

    • @shane1997
      @shane1997 Před 2 lety

      @@user-vm2wi8no1s osdssddek

  • @croydd
    @croydd Před rokem +12

    Yo why is Six so quiet though, I'm blasting 100%, Six is whispering, Swag is blowing my eardrums.

  • @Speeds_Gaming_Corner
    @Speeds_Gaming_Corner Před 8 měsíci +9

    43:51 "It's not like Sasuke in a week is getting a whole tier stronger"
    Reminder that the war arc lasted 3 days and multiple characters jumped 4-8 tiers.

  • @EchoWolf31
    @EchoWolf31 Před 2 lety +231

    I want to see the full 4 hours. I just like hearing you guys discuss this stuff.

    • @JmisterYT
      @JmisterYT Před 2 lety +19

      Tbh same I like video essays

    • @timothyseanyuson
      @timothyseanyuson Před 2 lety +13

      Yeah I think the editing towards the end should’ve just stayed uncut, it got confusing with all the jumps

    • @gazox2182
      @gazox2182 Před 2 lety +4

      Yeah pls send the whole thing kinda just wanna binge and listen too it.

    • @sanchu4380
      @sanchu4380 Před 2 lety

      Same

    • @beepain6005
      @beepain6005 Před 2 lety

      I demand Swag's uncut bathroom break

  • @mrnicandcam2
    @mrnicandcam2 Před 2 lety +464

    The issue everybody has with Sakura being that strong is because powerscaling wise it doesn’t make sense, but I feel like Kishi wanted to have that moment of “Team 7 is all grown up and strong together” so he wanted Sakura to be relative to the others without really earning it

    • @Witch_King_Ken
      @Witch_King_Ken Před 2 lety +80

      Uhhh no dude it's definitely earned and it damn sure makes sense. Sakura trained with a Sannin able to fuck up madaras Sussano, She has more control of her chakra then her mentor and was fighting Sasori when she was younger. In Shippuden shes clearly seen to be stronger then OG Naruto, Even if she didn't do absolutely shit in that duration. Plus the 100 healings is a medical ninjutsu which Sakura is a pro at. I don't mind shit talking her but let's not ignore the facts

    • @damonwade6591
      @damonwade6591 Před 2 lety +166

      @@Witch_King_Ken thats not why it doesnt make sense lmao. It doesnt work because the other 3 members got MASSIVE amps to beat kaguya while she hadnt recived an amp since being on par with kcm 2 naruto

    • @deiondre300
      @deiondre300 Před 2 lety +124

      @@damonwade6591 all we need to do is look at her performance against madara or how sasuke no diffs her after the fight. She's trash. She hits hard it's just like Kakashi vs Tsunade, she may do better against stronger opponents but she's never killing Kakashi. Just like Sakura may have the strength to hurt kaguya realistically they are on different ability levels entirely.

    • @E3boss2003
      @E3boss2003 Před 2 lety +17

      Sakura don't compare 😂😂😂 how they on the same tier as naruto and sasuke she was the loser in the trio even in the war she just stood with kakashi😂😂

    • @E3boss2003
      @E3boss2003 Před 2 lety +5

      @@deiondre300 facts

  • @alexklimek179
    @alexklimek179 Před rokem +50

    "Kashin koji is ass"
    *puts in UPPER SIX PATHS*

    • @Vader255
      @Vader255 Před rokem +17

      He's trash in terms of boruto scaling since everyone is op in boruto

    • @quannguyen-je8cl
      @quannguyen-je8cl Před 2 měsíci +4

      bc children in boruto slam your favorite strongest character in war arc

  • @chief8268
    @chief8268 Před rokem +79

    so Konohamaru went from Jonin level to Jonin level in the span of 20 years.

    • @Sad-Lesbian
      @Sad-Lesbian Před rokem +36

      Shonen anime really be like: main character goes from a literal nobody to beyond God in 3 years, but side characters go from okay to okay in 50 years

    • @JohnnyTravolta
      @JohnnyTravolta Před rokem +14

      @@Sad-Lesbian Konohamaru went from 0 to okay in 10 years, its huge progress for someone like him

  • @deerofdreams1783
    @deerofdreams1783 Před 2 lety +154

    Do you know what I think was absolutely hilarious? If Orochimaru had perfected Edo Tensei earlier the show would have just ended because Hashirama would have just murdered Orochimaru the moment Orochimaru ordered him to kill Hiruzen and since Edo Tensei doesn't stop when the caster dies the hidden leaf would just have A nearly full power Hashirama and Tobirama both of which are immortal and have unlimited chakra. So Orochimaru's own ineptitude for mastering Edo Tensei saved him and the rest of the show.

    • @agenttex5973
      @agenttex5973 Před 2 lety +2

      Well no? Hashirama would be under his full control the only reason Itachi was able to break through the control was with the Most over powered Genjutsu in the series

    • @deerofdreams1783
      @deerofdreams1783 Před 2 lety +71

      @@agenttex5973 Orochimaru said that if hashirama wanted to he could free himself

    • @Dj-fb8bs
      @Dj-fb8bs Před 2 lety +15

      Hashirima would’ve destroyed the continent on accident after showing Orochimaru his real power😂😂😂

    • @nogeagor971
      @nogeagor971 Před 2 lety +10

      @@deerofdreams1783 They clearly didn't develop Edo Tensei before shippuden, which was when that encounter with Orochimaru and Tobirama happened (early in the original Naruto), but yes if they used the theory they created in the war arc of Shippuden, that Orochimaru isn't able to control them due to their chakra levels, they would just turn around and kill him.

    • @azariyelvarro6271
      @azariyelvarro6271 Před 2 lety +5

      Imagine a scenario where Hashirama trains Naruto (as his wood style would keep the nine tails in check) And Tobirama trains Sasuke (since his dickhead fanboy Danzo got them all killed, and Hashirama would definitely have him make some amends for that whole situation he inadvertently caused through his Uchiha racism.)

  • @jamesk7256
    @jamesk7256 Před 2 lety +522

    KCM Naruto moves faster, which is why he broke his ankle the first time he used it and Gai had to intercede to fight Kisame; it was too fast for him to handle at first. Sage mode has a lot of sensory advantages, which is why it allows for incredible reaction times.

    • @jamesk7256
      @jamesk7256 Před 2 lety +53

      To further illustrate that point, remember how Kakashi was told not to use the Raikiri because he couldn't react to a counter? Chakra-based abilities can amp someone's speed up past the point they can even perceive what's going on. Kakashi solved this with the Sharingan, and Naruto solved this at first by switching to sage mode when he needed to respond to someone with insane speed, then later by combining KCM with sage mode.

    • @JottoHearthStone
      @JottoHearthStone Před 2 lety +15

      Yep pretty much, also sage mode could be argued to allow for some kind of precog movement in the case of danger sence etc. allowing for that kind of movement when KCM couldn't. In terms of travel speed tho, KCM is just implied and shown to be much faster.
      The 3rd raikage thing is also tricky because naruto only used sage mode since he couldn't use KCM in that instant, it had run out basically, but I will admit that's pretty ambigious.
      This also makes the preta path interception less mega insane, as sage mode would still be very quick, but not like raikage quick.

    • @foreignfat6009
      @foreignfat6009 Před rokem +4

      @@JottoHearthStone Sage mode is a new spidey sense confirmed.

    • @Friendly_G
      @Friendly_G Před rokem

      ​@James K oh I thought kakashi just simply couldn't use the chidori because of some sort of chakra issue that the sharingan solved. Learn something knew

  • @redeyesdragunknight6255
    @redeyesdragunknight6255 Před rokem +44

    Best case scenario for the Sakura vs Kaguya thing is Kaguya is just more concerned about the two people chasing her with the actual wincon against her. So she probably just underestimated Kaguya+ Mental Amp+ Byakugo not collecting her Chakra.

  • @mahendrank3391
    @mahendrank3391 Před rokem +3

    just rewatched it, this list is fire. @swagkage please post the cut out bits of you and six

  • @mrdudeguy2199
    @mrdudeguy2199 Před 2 lety +60

    Clicked as soon as I saw the notification Swagkage you're the best keep collabing with Six he's awesome and you guys have great chemistry

  • @itsnotevenqua
    @itsnotevenqua Před 2 lety +385

    The amount of effort swag, six, seth and everyone else puts into their videos is outstanding

    • @Viroh
      @Viroh Před 2 lety +2

      No

    • @IkenFister
      @IkenFister Před 2 lety +3

      Swag? 😂

    • @UnchxrtedChris
      @UnchxrtedChris Před 2 lety

      Who's six in full

    • @solo8123
      @solo8123 Před 2 lety +9

      @@UnchxrtedChris he’s a CZcamsr but use to be a discord debater he’s very knowledgeable on naruto he stopped debating and started making great content he was actually very known in the debate community

    • @UnchxrtedChris
      @UnchxrtedChris Před 2 lety

      @@solo8123 oh thx

  • @bartimusprime5652
    @bartimusprime5652 Před rokem +15

    The Tobirama lowballing is insane

  • @MilanNikolic96
    @MilanNikolic96 Před 2 lety +66

    Sakuras performance in the Kaguya fight was purely plot driven, cause it had to fit the team 7 reunion narrative

    • @Vader255
      @Vader255 Před 2 lety +13

      that does not matter it still applys

    • @MilanNikolic96
      @MilanNikolic96 Před 2 lety +21

      @@Vader255 in the grand scheme of things it does, but it sure as hell doesnt feel earned

    • @Vader255
      @Vader255 Před 2 lety +11

      @@MilanNikolic96 i mean I think sakura has earned it since she is just a regular random shinoni that doesn't have some magical eyes,or some secret clan justu and doesn't come from a notable clan,and isn't this super prodigy like everyone else. She just has to work hard and I thinks it's very well earned as all she does is train.

    • @itachikamui966
      @itachikamui966 Před 2 lety +9

      @@Vader255 dont forget that her parents werent ever even ninja lmfao. she has no special clan abilities no advantage from having op parents or anything.

    • @manicside5901
      @manicside5901 Před 2 lety +15

      @@Vader255 no. It makes 0 sense n ways little. Yall amping Sakura because she has healing. She is the weakest of the SAnin. N cancer itachi is stronger than orochimaru in base. So hes way above tsunade... she dont have nothing to keep up with him and she too slow. So how is sakura gonna be kcm level or god tier 😑. Konohamaru sneaked naruto head on in the chunin but tht dont mean he god tier

  • @cherrychocolate1434
    @cherrychocolate1434 Před 2 lety +223

    1:30:49 I believe the given reason for Choji not eating the pills in the war is that he has at that point mastered the Amikichi clan jutsu. The pills are essentially medicine that rapidly converts their fat and calories into pure chakra to enhance their power. But once he fights in the war, he ends up mastering his own chakra/calorie control, meaning he doesn't need the pills. If I remember right, Choji's dad straight up says "Yeah, the pills won't help anymore". But I could be remembering it wrong.
    EDIT: Added a timestamp to Swag's comment and also clarified that I might be remembering wrong, since I haven't read the manga in a while.

    • @Twiska
      @Twiska Před 2 lety +18

      Swag wasn't asking why he didn't use them in the war. He wondered why he didn't use them when Pain attacked the leaf village. Yeah, during the war arc, he evolves past needing them, but up till that point, those pills were still his ace in the hole, so why didn't he or his dad use them against Pain?

    • @sirnetflix7162
      @sirnetflix7162 Před 2 lety +6

      @@Twiska Maybe they thought it wouldn’t be enough? idk. Or more likely, because plot.

    • @cherrychocolate1434
      @cherrychocolate1434 Před 2 lety +7

      @@Twiska Okay, I misheard Swag's statement there. But i guess i have to ask: Do you think Choji with the red pill in this scenario would be stronger than the Sage Toads who Pain was able to break the bones of with a single Shinra Tensei?

    • @cancelable43
      @cancelable43 Před 2 lety +1

      @@cherrychocolate1434 probably

  • @draquafresh
    @draquafresh Před 2 lety +163

    This is beyond what we should expect from a CZcamsr discussing a niche topic like this, couldn’t finish it in once sitting but I will definitely finish it here soon. I’m proud to be subscribed, keep up the good work swag!

  • @zar0_69
    @zar0_69 Před 2 lety +1

    MADE IT! Thanks for the loooong video to vibe with

  • @grayj98k13
    @grayj98k13 Před 2 lety

    I enjoyed this, I’d like to see all the tweaks and debating

  • @rejecteddan3136
    @rejecteddan3136 Před 2 lety +479

    Sakura hitting Kaguya was circumstantial. She's not striking her without Naruto or Sasuke. Sakura also received zero buffs or training between the time she obtained byakugou seal, to fighting Kaguya.

    • @fugazy2656
      @fugazy2656 Před 2 lety +13

      But she still is the best female ninja and best medical ninja. Also, the 3rd strongest in the show

    • @Pablo-vm5eh
      @Pablo-vm5eh Před 2 lety +68

      @@fugazy2656 not the 3rd strongest in the show but probably the third strongest alive person

    • @DarthStalkers
      @DarthStalkers Před 2 lety +81

      Way to look at a feat for how it was intended and not blowing it out of proportion like everyone else dude!

    • @toriichi4312
      @toriichi4312 Před 2 lety +40

      @@fugazy2656 3rd strongest in the show? nah I'll put her top 20

    • @EOMMunaware
      @EOMMunaware Před 2 lety +44

      @@toriichi4312 nigga she ain’t even top 50. 70% of the characters underneath Sakura can stomp her in every form she got. Seagkage was just tripping hard on this vid, he was acc trolling u can tell how he tried to hold his laugh 🤣🤣

  • @ascvb3
    @ascvb3 Před 2 lety +305

    I would also say Fused Kisame is a bit low-balled. He bodies V2 Bee really hard. If it weren't for Samehada's betrayal, the fight would have been almost a stomp. It was one-sided without Kisame even aiming for the kill. The big thing is that pretty much any fight where Kisame can use the water dome jutsu means he's faster than his opponent. His speed in the water is just untouchable.
    As for base Kisame, as long as he has Samehada, tanking a rasenshuriken is not a concern. He'd just absorb it. This is what makes him so scary: how many characters rely on easily absorbable ninjutsu. Even biju cloaks aren't a concern for him. He took a nasty hit from V2 Bee in base, but Bee was immediately reverted to V1 from chakra loss after one attack.

    • @raceschmidt1306
      @raceschmidt1306 Před 2 lety +5

      Yes

    • @justinbarnes1818
      @justinbarnes1818 Před 2 lety +7

      Is samehada shown absorbing ninjutsu? I only seen it slice a fireball in half

    • @ddtv5611
      @ddtv5611 Před 2 lety

      OMGGF facts

    • @chonckle3532
      @chonckle3532 Před 2 lety +7

      I don’t think samehada absorbs ninjutsu tho, just raw chakra. At least i don’t think it’s ever shown absorbing ninjutsu

    • @haithamaadabdelhady1958
      @haithamaadabdelhady1958 Před 2 lety +15

      @@chonckle3532 what do you think ninjutsu is made of 💀💀💀

  • @lifesfailure939
    @lifesfailure939 Před rokem +25

    The fact that six path tools tenten got into kage tier makes me feel validated as someone who feels tenten is without a doubt top 3 under-utilised characters and is the most interesting girl from konoha

    • @EmberSynth
      @EmberSynth Před rokem +2

      FACTS

    • @sly607
      @sly607 Před rokem

      I actually really like tenten, she's hella overhated, her and Tsunade are my two favorite female characters, they are awesome.

    • @IIIISai
      @IIIISai Před rokem

      @@sly607 tsunade is good, tenten is a ninja who uses 0 ninjjutsu and throws paper fans

    • @sly607
      @sly607 Před rokem

      @@IIIISai Yeah, she ain't powerful but I just like her as a character.

    • @IIIISai
      @IIIISai Před rokem +1

      @@sly607 i respect that

  • @FrayTheHunter
    @FrayTheHunter Před rokem +10

    "I ain't going at Seth bro" even then we knew he was toxic

    • @savaory4217
      @savaory4217 Před rokem +1

      What does Seth the progrommer have to do with this video

  • @iamdavidreardon
    @iamdavidreardon Před 2 lety +256

    A little pushback on the Delta scaling: Kawaki explicitly states that Naruto is directing Delta in such a way that her attacks don’t hit him, Boruto, and Himawari. That being said, him not being able to use his strongest jutsu, along with the fact that he had to strategically direct her movements should scale her a good amount below Naruto. Being able to guide and direct an opponent, while being suppressed due to not being able to use your most powerful techniques, is a severe handicap. So, yeah, he might’ve been going “all out”, but it wasn’t just in the sense of fighting her to beat her. It was much more than that.

    • @CoffeeSipper555
      @CoffeeSipper555 Před 2 lety +36

      Worst fight of the franchise, terrible writing , no sense , bad animation , 0 logic involved , making naruto act retarded only for the plot doesn't make it less of a retarded choice , the show is so absurdly bad.

    • @vaibhavmadan7125
      @vaibhavmadan7125 Před 2 lety +1

      @@CoffeeSipper555 ok so how is delta vs naruto terrible wrirting ? and as for 0 logic we know for a fact that in the novels its directly stated by kurtsuchi that the ninja tools that the leaf has can make even a civilian into a booted down version of naruto and thats with just a ninja took the size of a watch
      so now how powerful do u think is delta who IS COMPLETEL MADE OF THAT SHIT . so if a wrist band can make u into a off shelf naruto how powerful would a ninja tool the size of human can make u ? SO YEAH DELTA ~ NARUTO AINT THAT BAD .

    • @vaibhavmadan7125
      @vaibhavmadan7125 Před 2 lety +1

      @@CoffeeSipper555 also sasuke says teh kara members are otsusuki level threats so are u telling me naruto is 1 shotting people like jubidara ? 8 gate guy etc all these people who are kaguya level threats .
      PLUS DELTA CAN SHOOT LIGHT LIKE MADARA WHCIH FURTHER PROVES WHY NARUTO NEED TO USE SOME EFFORT .
      NARUTO ACTING LIKE HE IS STRUGGLING TO GET DELTA TO SPILL HER PLANS IS LEGEIT ONE OF THE SMARTEST THINGS HE HAS DONE .
      AND HOW DOES THE PLOT MAKE IT SEEM ARTIFICAL AND NOT NATRUAL

    • @vaibhavmadan7125
      @vaibhavmadan7125 Před 2 lety

      @@CoffeeSipper555 WHAT I MEAN IS how does the plot make it seem like forced and like it nvr should have happened and not natural like prior events would flow into this one .

    • @MammalianCreature
      @MammalianCreature Před 2 lety +19

      @@CoffeeSipper555 Did you delete any comments or did this dude below you just rant for 3 comments straight? Just asking for context.

  • @emantheheman3083
    @emantheheman3083 Před 2 lety +401

    2:41:27 So the reason to put ems Madara over Sage Mode Hashirama is "one of them has healing and one of them doesn't" meanwhile one of them brought the nine tails to the fight and one of them didn't, even in the flashback story BASE Hashirama beat EMS Madara. Like come on every character in the verse that mentions them says that Hashirama was stronger than Madara when they were alive including Madara himself.

    • @Nobod51
      @Nobod51 Před 2 lety +1

      Madara tards are beyond help , they think jubbidara beats isshiki

    • @gonefist
      @gonefist Před 2 lety +80

      ikr Hashirama beats the shit out of ems madara

    • @mekoshaanika8903
      @mekoshaanika8903 Před 2 lety +23

      Yeah and like they actually fought in the anime two times while Madara had ems and I think only the last fight Hashirama used sage mode, but we don't know when he learned so he might've also used it in the first one

    • @reddolphin8663
      @reddolphin8663 Před rokem +25

      It doesn't even make sense because healing is hashirama's ability. It's apart of his arsenal. It's a hax. It's not an unfair advantage since it's his own power unlike the Madara having the nine tails

    • @mimiverse4132
      @mimiverse4132 Před rokem +12

      @@reddolphin8663 yeah hashirama beats any madara until ten tails and maybe sage mode

  • @thierryboucher127
    @thierryboucher127 Před 2 lety +1

    Best video I have ever watched
    I watched it at least 10 times never gets boring

  • @DexTheMenace
    @DexTheMenace Před rokem

    Actually great video

  • @MustachePandaYT
    @MustachePandaYT Před 2 lety +145

    Six i love you but Kage summit sasuke could barley stand up to 2 of the kage, let alone all of them, and Naruto's shadow clones were relative to a kage and he made like 12 of them. The clones were also treated as more important than any other human life during the fights, and naruto wasn't even fatigued.

    • @yeetwchybaban
      @yeetwchybaban Před 2 lety +2

      Yh

    • @theyliveinthematrixofthefa4437
      @theyliveinthematrixofthefa4437 Před 2 lety +14

      @croma 136 Raikage being Edo doesn't take away from the feat itself. Itachi, 2nd Tsuchikage, Nagato were Edo but were problems. Besides if Naruto didn't show up Raikage would've wiped a division out alone and they wouldve had one of the strongest windstyle users lol

    • @theyliveinthematrixofthefa4437
      @theyliveinthematrixofthefa4437 Před 2 lety +3

      @croma 136 FACTSSS! So foreal, The Third Raikage wouldve wiped out a whole division with one of strongest windstyle users . Easily !!!

    • @assholable
      @assholable Před 2 lety

      100%

  • @mightymoeish
    @mightymoeish Před 2 lety +162

    The bottom of this tier list definitely depends on how much respect you give to the title of "Chunin."
    Land of Waves Sasuke smacks the two Chunin-level demon brothers. Which makes it seem shitty.
    However, after all the fights in the Chunin exams, the only one who gets promoted is Shikamaru. Which makes it seem significant.

    • @filipgasic2642
      @filipgasic2642 Před 2 lety +18

      You don't even makes sense. You would if you remembered that to become a chunin it's not just about fighting power but leadership skill and so on. When the Sasuke vs Garaa fight got interrupted, Genma, the proctor said to Sasuke that he is already at chunin level and that his first chunin mission would be to follow and take out Garaa

    • @secretly_ur_dad8702
      @secretly_ur_dad8702 Před 2 lety +6

      Well don’t forget that the exam was ambushed before finishing so they didn’t get to chose properly. Also Sasuke is a chunin level fighter, but that doesn’t mean he’s capable of leading a squad.

    • @leaffinite3828
      @leaffinite3828 Před 2 lety +3

      Its just kinda inconsistent in early naruto how powerful a chunin is. Which makes sense, because like 90 percent of adult ninja are chunin

    • @mightymoeish
      @mightymoeish Před 2 lety +1

      @@filipgasic2642 I think we're making the same core point: there's a difference between how a village gives titles to their ninja, compared to the ninja's ability to defeat an opponent. But this video's tier list is clearly about fighting ability. It would be ridiculous to make a tier list based on anything else.

  • @JoshTheMadLad
    @JoshTheMadLad Před měsícem

    I love that i can watch your vids at 1.5x speed and it sounds like youre having a normal convo but the music is stupid fast.

  • @Enja___
    @Enja___ Před 11 měsíci

    Really weird it’s like the 3rd time rewatching this lol
    These vids are just great as some background

  • @foresightmystery9845
    @foresightmystery9845 Před 2 lety +428

    The only problem I have is scaling Shino because even though he doesn't have many feats, the feats he has are insane sometimes! And even what's implied from him during the retrieval Arc when he goes on that secret mission with his clan leader during HIGH ALERT in the village

    • @generic6ixty5ive
      @generic6ixty5ive Před 2 lety +9

      he also almost fucks mitsuki boruto and shikamaru

    • @Elysthir
      @Elysthir Před 2 lety

      @@generic6ixty5ive he wouldve if he wasn't like actively trying not to or something haven't watched that bit in forever plus he wasn't as strong because he couldn't control himself

    • @bob74h67
      @bob74h67 Před 2 lety +6

      He has alot of feats. It's just in the anime.
      Material which the fanbase dont like

    • @slinkyslink5161
      @slinkyslink5161 Před 2 lety +10

      He is shown to be really intelligent and in my opinion they showed his intelligence better than they do shikamaru's intelligence.
      All of shikamaru's intelligence feats are pretty overhyped even by the show itself imo. Whenever shino fights he outsmarts his opponent with practical, reasonable tactics that work, as opposed to shikamaru's overly complicated plans that have statistically failed more than they succeeded.

    • @KnuttyEntertainment
      @KnuttyEntertainment Před 2 lety +2

      There’s a video about how OP Shino is that deserves a watch. I honestly think he’d do pretty well against Gaara just because the bugs could burrow through the sand. And then I think he blows through the sound four. He’d have some trouble with Kidomaru’s archery or Jirobo’s strength, but if he can stay well hidden (like a ninja should) he could get the drop on them and take them out before they could retaliate.

  • @RedDeathAnims
    @RedDeathAnims Před 2 lety +228

    No matter how many ninja the Kazekage sent after Gaara, not one of them was able to come close to touching Genin Gaara. So if weightless Rock Lee was able to hit Gaara multiple times to the point where his Sand Armor broke, he’s got to at least be Jonin-Level. Note that Might Gai made his team take the Chunin Exams late. This is why by Shippuden, Neji is already a Jonin unlike the rest of the people around his age.

    • @junior523
      @junior523 Před rokem +2

      Ok

    • @Alela17
      @Alela17 Před rokem +2

      Right but question neji was easily stopped by the jonin right and hes up there with 5th gate lee how is it neji was easily stopped by the jonin they completely blizted him and they are also jonin level?

    • @RedDeathAnims
      @RedDeathAnims Před rokem +14

      @@Alela17 Well there’s a huge difference between Jonin and High Jonin level. If Part 1 Kakashi took on Hayate, it would be a pretty short fight. Technically, even Jiraya was a Jonin. There’s a huge range of power in the Jonin Rank, and there’s a minority who is of Kage-level power who may or may not have what it takes to be an actual Kage. Neji had some Jonin-level aspects to him, but he obv wasn’t a fully seasoned Ninja by this time.

    • @Alela17
      @Alela17 Před rokem +1

      @@RedDeathAnims yes they where high jonin that did that but you wanna know else was there the itachi victim her self best in the leaf with genjustu how did he get soeed blizted by her fuck wast the chunin exams Procter also able to blizt and all we get from this sand jonin are ass

    • @RedDeathAnims
      @RedDeathAnims Před rokem +1

      @@Alela17 Baki literally defeated the very proctor that blitzed Neji, so how are Sand Jonin trash? And Itachi was capable of becoming Hokage by the age of 7, but he was tasked with spying on his Clan and taking the Fall for whatever happened during the massacre. If Itachi led a normal life, Kurenai would have attempted to use Genjutsu on a whole Kage. I highly suggest you watch the entire show because you sound misinformed.

  • @BraydenFeeley
    @BraydenFeeley Před 10 měsíci

    I'm sorry you went through that but it entertained me for 3 hours
    :DD

  • @venomz8888
    @venomz8888 Před rokem +16

    58:10 1:16:27 In case you want to skip the 18 minute long debate of where to put Kaguya fight Sakura.

    • @writersblock1016
      @writersblock1016 Před 3 měsíci +1

      It went long but it was actually so entertaining to listen to xD

    • @venomz8888
      @venomz8888 Před měsícem

      @@writersblock1016I agree, but I watch this video on repeat a lot, so I set this time stamp for myself and anyone else since it comes to grinding halt talking about Sakura.

  • @akkun4645
    @akkun4645 Před 2 lety +105

    Haven't missed a single second of this video. Amazing work Swag and Six (well, and Seth later on). It's insanely difficult to properly rank OVER 300 CHARACTERS without having some inconsistencies, but taking everything into account, this is probably the best and the most justified tierlist anyone could ever compose. Again, amazing work, as always. Much love.

  • @iNC0GNEGRO
    @iNC0GNEGRO Před 2 lety +73

    Kakuzu is not affected by your insults. His *Raw Durability* protects him.

    • @kodoqbesar4301
      @kodoqbesar4301 Před 2 lety +4

      His *raw durability* > Kishimoto

    • @plastic0995
      @plastic0995 Před 2 lety +6

      @@kodoqbesar4301 Well..Not necessarily..

    • @6paths988
      @6paths988 Před 2 lety +8

      @@plastic0995 it’s not capping kakuzu>>>>>Kaguya,isshiki,momoshiki,madara, baryon mode,sasuke,code full power,boruto,kawaki,pain,itachi,Kisame, Himawari,ramen guy,minato,obito,hashirama,and the rest of the series

    • @iNC0GNEGRO
      @iNC0GNEGRO Před 2 lety +2

      @@6paths988 no cap

    • @mryellow6918
      @mryellow6918 Před 2 lety +2

      I'm dying, fuck what was that video called again anyone remember it?

  • @blueldrrich84
    @blueldrrich84 Před rokem

    Made it to the end of the video! I am insane 😆🤪 Nah, but this video was really interesting and I learned a ton! Thank you!
    Future video idea: history of the Naruto world from origin to end of shippuden =D

  • @JoannaHatake4922
    @JoannaHatake4922 Před rokem +21

    1:17:08
    Kakashi became a Genin at the age of 5.
    Kakashi became a chunin at the age of 6.
    Kakashi became a jounin at the age of 12-13.
    All this without the sharingan, he has some feats (not including the sharingan).
    He even has his dad's sword, and yes he knows how to use Rassengan..
    And also for a small part of his life he was trained by the white Fang.

    • @JoannaHatake4922
      @JoannaHatake4922 Před rokem +2

      Also did u forget Anbu Kakashi? ;-;

    • @SRVaris
      @SRVaris Před rokem +3

      "age of 5-6"
      Exactly 5
      "age of 6-7"
      Exactly 6
      "age of 12-13"
      This is the weird one but if you believe the Manga holds more weight then the Databooks
      Exactly 8
      (The Manga shows Obito Rin & Kakashi taking the Chunin exams at the same time(only Kakashi & Obito becoming Chunin) meaning Kakashi must be 4ish years younger then Obito as Obito became a Chunin at 11 years old(Obito's birthday is before Kakashi's that's why its 4ish years as its possible Obito's birthday(Feb 10) had passed while Kakashi's(Sep 15) hadn't come up yet)

    • @JoannaHatake4922
      @JoannaHatake4922 Před rokem

      @@SRVaris Damn bro, thx ^^

    • @JoannaHatake4922
      @JoannaHatake4922 Před rokem

      @@SRVaris Wait Kakashi became a jounin at 8? :O
      I thought Shisui was the youngest jounin.

    • @SRVaris
      @SRVaris Před rokem +1

      @@JoannaHatake4922 It depends on how you consider the Databooks authority
      Like if you value the Databook's more Shisui is the youngest as Adult Obito & Adult Kakashi are stated the same age and Obito is 13 in Kakashi Gaiden meaning Kakashi would be 13
      However the Databook is going against the Manga in this case as we know for a fact
      Kakashi became a Chunin at 6 & Obito at 11 and its shown they take the Chunin Exams at the same time and become Chunin at the same time
      So
      Manga = 8
      Databook = 13
      How I interpret the Databook is that Obito is the same age as Kakashi Physically due to Obito having Hashirama Cell's

  • @abaileyjr97
    @abaileyjr97 Před 2 lety +124

    You do know that the third raikage was letting Temari hit him. He told the whole alliance his weaknesses. He wasn’t fighting seriously until Kabuto took full control of him

    • @thenexus7343
      @thenexus7343 Před 2 lety +9

      Isnt it crazy, That a clone of Naruto was kage level? Keep in mind every shadow clone, HALVES Naruto's chakra. This Naruto could easily only have like. 20% power

    • @zaleww5824
      @zaleww5824 Před 2 lety +26

      @@thenexus7343 narutos chakra is technically infinite cuz kurama and he is uzumaki so clones are as strong as naruto I think

    • @acedeci4560
      @acedeci4560 Před 2 lety +2

      @@thenexus7343 no, clones aren't half one's strength, it's just a copy that's less durable, has less chakra, and slightly weaker than the original, it's not a complete power cut

    • @erickbeltran7338
      @erickbeltran7338 Před 2 lety +1

      @@thenexus7343 I think that statement applied to kid naruto who didn’t have proper chakra control

    • @ShadowbannedAccount
      @ShadowbannedAccount Před rokem +1

      I agree. War Arc Temari is NOT beating Amaterasu Sasuke.

  • @esdrasvincent5184
    @esdrasvincent5184 Před 2 lety +326

    This video would have been amazing live streamed. Imagine getting to talk with and get advice from people in chat, it would be such a chill out session

    • @sosa8549
      @sosa8549 Před 2 lety +7

      they did that recently with a similar tier list

    • @lilkira5579
      @lilkira5579 Před 2 lety +2

      @@sosa8549 where?

    • @fatcat2861
      @fatcat2861 Před 2 lety +45

      until someone disagrees and the chat goes ape shit fighting

    • @rayyanhourani1443
      @rayyanhourani1443 Před rokem

      @@lilkira5579 blllblpbp

    • @leonglitch
      @leonglitch Před rokem +1

      @@fatcat2861 good point

  • @voidsnorlax6556
    @voidsnorlax6556 Před rokem

    this is the king of content of all Naruto power discussion, the content of content, the great content after the advent of which no other content will be needed, the content to end all content.

  • @dandychiggins6143
    @dandychiggins6143 Před 2 lety +88

    Biggest issue with powerscaling - not just for Naruto but all Shonen in general like One Piece, Bleach etc. - is that the authors of those series don't make tier lists where their characters rank in power like fans do and stick to it. They make it up as they go along based on how they feel or what the story and plot demands.
    The authors don't add up all their multipliers they give characters to figure out where character's stand via calc's. Author don't give Character A a better feat than Character B to show A is stronger. Authors don't backup every boost in power a character gets by explaining it logically like they trained or unlocked a new technique which boosts their power etc. Authors just make characters as powerful as they want on the fly and draw cool fights.
    Does it make sense Sakura got a ludicrous boost in power out of nowhere with no logical explanation to the point she went from being unable to make Madara flinch to smacking Kaguya around like she were her personal bunny-eared punching bag? No. There is no logical in-universe explanation - "mental amp" or other - as to where this boost in power came from because it didn't come from in-universe, it came from Kishimoto wanting his three main characters to all be roughly on par in power by the series end because of thematic narrative and symbolism. Because unlike fans, authors don't give a damn about powerscaling. It's their universe so if Kishimoto wants to make Sakura be on par with Six Paths Naruto and Rinnegan Sasuke then he will, even if it doesn't make any logical in-universe powerscaling sense. He's the creator, he'll do as he pleases with his creation, fans and powerscalers be damned.

    • @jmeds94
      @jmeds94 Před rokem +11

      What’s crazy is that the disagreement amongst fans on her character comes from the symbolism and narrative structure.
      I personally don’t think Kishimoto wanted them to be on par with each other at all. I interpreted the significance as them all being together fighting and contributing against Kaguya. There’s nothing symbolic about her being on par with them. They are MEANT the leave her and Kakashi both in the dust. Because the main story is Naruto and Sasuke, it’s all about their reflection in one another.
      Sakura’s significance in the story is the taming of Sasuke with her love for him. Her power is irrelevant to me because it’s not her purpose in the story.

    • @TiomesTheOne
      @TiomesTheOne Před 11 měsíci +5

      @@jmeds94 Yep. Also power scaling doesn't fit in a manga like Naruto.
      We learn that an inferior shinobi can beat a jonin/kage when using the right jutsu.
      Take Tenten. With that OP weapon she can become God-Tier, mostly considering how good she is with weapon handling in general.

    • @didack1419
      @didack1419 Před 6 měsíci

      I wonder how far Oda in particular does power-scaling, he explictly ranks inside the story the characters of the enemies of most arcs in pretty-defined tiers of power with sizeable jumps in between each. And even the characters themselves by numbering them explictly, at least twice I think it happened.

    • @didack1419
      @didack1419 Před 6 měsíci

      ​​@@TiomesTheOne Naruto has not been very faithful to the idea that characters can cleverly bridge the gap, and the broad consequences of that being true.
      The structures based around combat power are still very rigid, it clearly seems like a character that is on a certain tier will most often check lower-tier characters very consistently. And people know what a "hokage-level fight/character" is like.
      And about characters with gimmicks, it seems to me that even if there are characters that hard-counter other characters, often those just have OP abilities overall and hard-counter many characters that cant just effectively damage them. It's not that the characters cleverly check other characters, most often (of course there are examples of that still).

    • @didack1419
      @didack1419 Před 6 měsíci

      ​​@@jmeds94 Yeah, I've been thinking basically the same thing while watching this, and about Sakura. She's meant to be slightly stronger than Tsunade, and that's fine.

  • @joshuaperry2426
    @joshuaperry2426 Před 2 lety +708

    I think Sakura's physical strength is used to grossly overestimate her overall power and abilities. She managed to damage kaguya but Naruto couldn't because she's PHYSICALLY much stronger than Naruto (she can output more force in her punches and kicks) this doesn't make her upper six paths level cause physical strength isn't all that important in the Naruto world. Overall skill and combat ability is what matters. To put it into perspective, tsunade is physically stronger than madara but that doesn't mean she's more powerful and she definitely wouldn't scale to him. We saw how saw how her fight with madara went.

    • @xandex69
      @xandex69 Před 2 lety +45

      It also seems weird that Sakura was Abel to actually break kaguyas horn it seems anime actually corrected it

    • @babyboy5553
      @babyboy5553 Před 2 lety +73

      Actually, people underestimate Sakura. People just say she is trash and useless and don't recognize her strenght.
      On the other hand, she is not just brutal strength: she has great brains and knows medical ninjutsu (which is only for healing people, we learned that in the tsunade vs kabuto's fight

    • @joshuaperry2426
      @joshuaperry2426 Před 2 lety +164

      @@babyboy5553 i didn't say she was useless, she just isn't on Naruto and sasuke's level in terms of combat ability

    • @user-hc3kg4hi7p
      @user-hc3kg4hi7p Před 2 lety +20

      Saying that physical strength doesn’t matters is crazy. Also Sakura isn’t lacking in skill or combat ability I don’t know where you got that from.

    • @joshuaperry2426
      @joshuaperry2426 Před 2 lety +97

      @@user-hc3kg4hi7p i never said that physical strength doesn't matter, i said it doesn't matter as much as skill and techniques. Sakura had no real techniques aside from the byakuya seal and medical ninjutsu. All of her other techniques are centred around physical power output which can be overcome quite easily with pretty much anything else in the Naruto universe. By your logic tsunade should be able to beat madara cause of her physical strength lmao. Sakura wouldn't even have beaten sasori if it weren't for granny chiyo and him wanting to die

  • @AshoreNevermore
    @AshoreNevermore Před 2 lety +256

    Can't believe you forgot to scale Fetus Sarada, one of the most slept on characters in anime. She was able to cripple a Post-War Sakura and even incapacitate her with her final attack, leaps and bounds above anything Jiraiya or Itachi could do.

  • @s.owl9
    @s.owl9 Před rokem +4

    I love the idea of the Preta path running (like an exited toddler in a toy store) at Sage Naruto speeds, absorbing all ninjutsu and snapping Kage’s necks in 1v1s XD

  • @guitar556100
    @guitar556100 Před rokem

    Ive watched this 3 times since it came out. Man, always takes multiple sit downs.

  • @Wingsaber
    @Wingsaber Před 2 lety +116

    Your dilemma with Sakura hurting Kaguya while Naruto couldn't, was the funniest thing 😂 Glad you guys actually put so much effort into ranking characters properly and honestly!

    • @jaideepshekhar4621
      @jaideepshekhar4621 Před 2 lety +6

      Sakura is NOT taking on Kaguya one on one, and that's a fact. Just change dimension to gravity and stab her. EZ clap.

    • @AK-su3tz
      @AK-su3tz Před rokem +4

      Naruto cut Kaguya's hand 😬 what show do you guys watch

    • @Hellamoody
      @Hellamoody Před rokem +4

      Naruto literally sliced her arm off in 0.1 of a second while he was extremely far away, how is that not physical damage omg

    • @dylanplays4449
      @dylanplays4449 Před rokem +3

      Wdym Naruto couldn’t he literally cut off her arm

    • @SRVaris
      @SRVaris Před rokem +1

      @@AK-su3tz With a Mental amp from Obito's death plus there talking about punches not chakra claws

  • @GhostBeatboxFugu
    @GhostBeatboxFugu Před 2 lety +722

    I just finished watching the whole thing. Firstly, I wanna say you, Six, and Seth are absolute beasts. To be able to do this thoroughly with this many characters for that many hours straight, while dealing with the mental cognitive dissonance of shonen power scaling and other inconsistencies across the series is genuinely impressive. It was evident throughout the video how much excruciating thought you guys had to put into the placement of characters and it's great to see that level of detail for a topic that is pretty much going to be eternally debated.
    This will be a long comment so to whoever's reading, bear with me. I'm gonna do my best to give my thoughts on this tier list. I will start off by saying the majority of my disagreements comes from two points:
    1. As others mentioned, a lot of placements are highly based on physical feats (Sakura) and I feel like skill feats and even mental feats (who is better at adapting, more intelligent/analytical, doesn't get too cocky like Danzo did) are undervalued a bit here. I also think hype is actually a bit undervalued here too, as feats can be drastically inconsistent throughout Naruto (for example, how Sai and Kankuro are written to beat Deidara and Sasori with the help of a bunch of random jonin is beyond me).
    2. I also think many placements within tiers are too based on if they can beat other people within that tier. For example, Rasenshuriken Naruto was used as a bar for a lot of placements. Imo placements should be more based on a character's ability to battle the overall Naruto roster, not just certain people. If I make up a hypothetical character named Madara Killer who can OHKO Madara, but loses to everyone else, that wouldn't put that character in the highest tiers. From what I understand, this is one of the thought processes behind actual fighting game tier lists.
    With that out of the way, let me write out some thoughts. Just know I'm reading bottom up:
    - I think Rock Lee (4th Gate) and Gaara (Chuunin Exams) should be in High Chuunin, maybe Sasuke/Naruto as well, and Sound Four in their base forms moved down a tier. It's weird putting Chuunin Exam genin so high but Rock Lee and Gaara were just busted, and would be able to overpower/outmanuever some of the retrieval arc genin plus the base Sound Four. Also the base Sound Four just straight up 1v4'd Sasuke if I recall correctly and he did pretty well. Otherwise, I agree with the rest of it pretty much up until that point.
    - On a similar note, I think CS2 Kimimaro and Neji should be at the top part of Elite Jonin. I think Jugo (Transformed) should also be moved down (I really don't see him beating Kakuzu, Chiyo, Tailed Beasts, etc.). Jugo and Suigetsu being higher than Kimimaro is just weird to me, and Kimimaro was fighting 3 different people while being terminally ill, and basically was about to win before he died on the spot. Any time Kishimoto makes someone sick, that says to me that the character is actually way stronger and he just needs to find a way to kill that character. For Neji, him being behind Hinata, Shikamaru, and Ino in the War Arc is just weird to me. He was always a level of skill above when it came to the core genin. If this means moving up retrieval arc Gaara too, I'm fine with that. Gaara was always sorta busted as a genin.
    - I agree Kakuzu is the 2nd weakest Akatsuki member (probably gonna get some shit for this) but I'd at least put him above the 6 tailed beast guys. Maybe Yagura above Han too, but I don't care too much about that. I also think Temari and Kankuro (War Arc) are a tier too high. No way they'd beat Deidara, multiple stronger forms of Naruto and Sasuke, and Tailed Beasts while matching up with people like base Killer Bee. Kankuro specifically shouldn't be that high up because he kinda just sucks tbh and shouldn't be higher than Chiyo. What does he do other than plagiarize all of Sasori's puppet work? Also, I'm happy to see Sasori that high up. I actually think that's justified. He's part of the "Kishimoto had to find a way to kill him" squad.
    - Mainly because of the physical feats point I mentioned before delving in, I think all the Sakuras are just too high. I know many people have already stated that disagreement, but I think she would realistically be closer to Tsunade. Even if she did stuff during the Kaguya fight, I feel like she was only able to because of her physical prowess and Kishimoto was just trying to find a way to shoehorn her in. She doesn't have the versatility, super speed, super defense, crazy whack jutsu, etc. to be comparable to Sasuke and Naruto that many times.
    - I know Shisui wasn't ranked but I presume he would be in Demi-God tier. Also, I wish we got to see prime Itachi and Nagato, but I think with Edo, their placements are reasonable. Maybe they could both be a couple spots higher? I know Kabuto Sage Mode battled both EMS Sasuke and Edo Itachi, but the win condition for the Uchihas was to capture, not kill, and that's significantly harder to do when Kabuto had an insane terrain advantage and they basically had to fight on his terms. I also think even if Itachi and Nagato wouldn't be able to beat Kabuto Sage Mode, they have a significantly better matchup against people in higher tiers.
    These are my thoughts. I welcome constructive discussion. Once again, thanks so much Swag and friends for making this.

    • @Seraphic_Prodigy
      @Seraphic_Prodigy Před 2 lety +22

      Kakuzu isn’t the second weakest Akatsuki member he is above some Akatsuki he is more towards the middle.

    • @dustinlegiste3029
      @dustinlegiste3029 Před 2 lety +9

      I agree with everything shisui is Demi god because he scales to itachi just wit out the op susanoo abilities other than that his genjustu is better his speed is faster plus it was stated his fires styles was one of the strongest because how he manipulated it with his blade also the chakra nature wind along sides the fire. A small detail to add is his ken justu was elite too so itachi and shisui are equal if not give shisui the small edge lmao his my fav character.
      Sakura I like her but her character is poorly written but she’s not keeping up wit hashirama and madara durability and raw power they literally fought for days non stop can change the whole landscape and treat multi tailed beast like pets also their battle iq are higher imagine growing up in the warring age when your fighting since your 7 or can manage to hold a blade. On top of that Sakura is the best medical ninja no doubt but hashirama cells are OP plus he can regenerate his own organs instantly wit no hand seals

    • @_Jayskiii_
      @_Jayskiii_ Před 2 lety +7

      Kakazu was strong bro they had to bust out a new jutsu “rasenshuriken” just to beat him

    • @TheDefiledShell
      @TheDefiledShell Před 2 lety +10

      Shisui in Demi-God tier….what have you been reading or watching lol. The guy lost to Danzo xD

    • @TheDefiledShell
      @TheDefiledShell Před 2 lety +5

      Aside from Koto-Amatsukami what feats does Shisui have to put him as a Demi-God tier character smh…

  • @renarsf5569
    @renarsf5569 Před rokem +9

    Maybe it's chakra itself why Kaguya didn't reacted to Sakura. Hagoromo gave Sasuke and Naruto chakra that was familiar to her. So she was focused on something that she knows and recognises.

  • @DygoKnight
    @DygoKnight Před 2 lety +3

    I can't take a tier list that puts Sarada above Minato seriously

    • @itachikamui966
      @itachikamui966 Před 2 lety +2

      just read boruto...im 110% sure this comment comes from someone who just hasnt read boruto and doesnt want to cause their riding the "boruto is trash give us a real naruto sequel" train.

    • @manicside5901
      @manicside5901 Před 2 lety

      @@itachikamui966 so please tell me where in boruto sarada did something near equal to minato. Or even curse mark 2 sasuke? If not hush up

    • @itachikamui966
      @itachikamui966 Před 2 lety +1

      @@manicside5901 she dodged shins attack who was fighting on par with adlt naruto and sasuke. sarada folds madaras cheeks and minatos

  • @BrowningAstilo
    @BrowningAstilo Před 2 lety +647

    I feel like putting this much value in Sakura's Kaguya feat is the same as saying that child Himawari is more powerful than Naruto because she knocked him out once.

    • @colealexander5959
      @colealexander5959 Před 2 lety +79

      Kaguya's durability and Naruto(base) is entirely different. That feat of Sakura is also different because she was able to not only destroy her horns but also disfigure Kaguya's face.

    • @alex-rs6ts
      @alex-rs6ts Před 2 lety +120

      @@colealexander5959 omg disfigure? Did we watch the same fight?

    • @colealexander5959
      @colealexander5959 Před 2 lety +44

      @@alex-rs6ts not I read the manga, I don't watch

    • @shaqcarroll3726
      @shaqcarroll3726 Před 2 lety +23

      This a good argument… but 2 different shows. Boruto have gag moments like that

    • @Dj-fb8bs
      @Dj-fb8bs Před 2 lety +42

      @@alex-rs6ts manga shows her horn being cut off and her getting really bad damage face. They nerfed her in the anime ,but it can be interpreted in the sense you are explaining. Still can’t downplay her actual physical strength here because this was a much exponentially stronger kaguya.

  • @dragonlord1935
    @dragonlord1935 Před 2 lety +110

    Swagkage in 2017: Makes a video rationalizing and justifying the hatred towards Sakura.
    Swagkage in 2021: "Sakura's NOT going below Madara though, I've gotta die on that hill..."
    SEE KISHIMOTO, THIS IS HOW YOU DO CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT

    • @vaibhavmadan7125
      @vaibhavmadan7125 Před 2 lety +7

      i hate hinata does that make her fodder genin level ? he could hate sakura but saying she is weak or useless cause u hate her makes no sense . cause feeling =/ stregnth just cause u hate her doesnt mean that she is weak or isn't mkcm 1 naruto level . your feeling doesnt change the fact that she was that strong .
      ( I KNOW ITS A JOKE BUT I AM ATTACING THE POINT UR TRYING TO CONVEY THROUGH THE JOKE )

    • @agenttex5973
      @agenttex5973 Před 2 lety +7

      I mean he said in that old sakura video that he doesnt hate sakura he just understands why people do hate her

    • @maalikserebryakov
      @maalikserebryakov Před 2 lety +2

      @@sarveshnathan7559 he is correct tho. Sakura at her strongest > Madara at his strongest

    • @jaideepshekhar4621
      @jaideepshekhar4621 Před 2 lety +6

      @@maalikserebryakov Are you fucking serious? Madara totally obliterates Sakura 1v1.

    • @SnoopyFr.
      @SnoopyFr. Před 2 lety +1

      @@jaideepshekhar4621 fatigued sakura ~ fatigued shin ~ fatigued adult sasuke > madara

  • @JA-hk9rz
    @JA-hk9rz Před 2 lety

    Not my fave video on yt but I appreciate the effort.

  • @brodotzip
    @brodotzip Před 2 lety +2

    you should do a summoning power scaling including tailed beast ten tails gamabunta, stuff like that

  • @Houndz1100
    @Houndz1100 Před 2 lety +299

    Swag, you need to understand there’s a discrepancy between just being physically stronger than somebody than overall being stronger. You admit it yourself that start of shippuden Kakashi is above Sakura & Naruto, but forget Kakashi thinks a punch by her would kill him… but that doesn’t mean he’ll lose the fight just due to that deduction. Sasori’s fight with her is similar. Sasori would die if his body was hit by her, but Sakura on her own isn’t winning that fight regardless of that notion.
    War Arc Sakura could PERHAPS one shot Juubito, but is she going to get to? No, he won’t allow her. Once Obito realized senjutsu and taijutsu was his weakness (which he acknowledges after Naruto hits him via teleportation w/ Tobirama), he began taking it a bit seriously and their teleportation just flat out doesn’t work. Nor are they able to blitz him. If Juubito decides to fly and crimson barrier juubi blast Sakura, she loses. Juubito was clearly so much stronger than everybody there and lost only to Naruto breaking his resolve. So no, she’s getting negged by him too.
    Now here we are with Kaguya.. just like Six said, Kaguya doesn’t acknowledge Sakura WHATSOEVER. If Sakura is this one shot god potential character like you claim she is, then she should’ve just one shotted all of the six path characters that stood against her.. but she didn’t.. because overall she is much weaker. Also, Juubito is aware of Minato and Tobirama’s teleporting shenanigans. So obviously he’d be prepared for it, this is not a speed feat for Sakura lol. Kaguya is preoccupied with Naruto and Sasuke primarily, so obviously the person she regards as irrelevant she won’t really pay attention to. Six brings up great points against your claims regarding her. There’s a lot more to these fights than just raw powerscaling, there’s story connotations toward them as well. Sasuke and Naruto only get the better of Juubito despite him being vastly superior because of what’s happening in the story and how Naruto is cracking him down emotionally. If you put bloodlusted Juubito, no story, then he obliterates them. It’s a similar thing to war arc Sakura scaling above people characters like Juudara just because she hit a careless Kaguya. Ironically, you state that context matters regarding Naruto hitting Kabuto with the rasengan but fail to apply that logic towards Sakura hitting Kaguya.
    But yes, Adult Sakura would one shot Juudara. Madara’s dead and she’s had 10 years to get stronger, bit hard to refute it. You can have that, I guess.

    • @Cripjoy
      @Cripjoy Před 2 lety +6

      Burh

    • @EOMMunaware
      @EOMMunaware Před 2 lety +52

      Fr, anybody that thinks Sakura is that high. Is completely unaware how useless and how little she accomplished in the entire series

    • @jeremyjayrivera
      @jeremyjayrivera Před 2 lety +38

      You are absolutely right with what you said brother. He doesn’t understand that with scaling, you gotta use some logic too.
      Going off of swags logic: shinki and base boruto is stronger than adult sasuke cus they DaMaGeD HiM and sasuke never could. So ur right with Sakura being obviously weaker than the likes of juubidara and Juubiyo and others. But adult Sakura is definitely not stronger than juubidara bro and u know that

    • @ydc_jay1204
      @ydc_jay1204 Před 2 lety +12

      Ain’t no way u wrote all dat 😂

    • @DAMNS70
      @DAMNS70 Před 2 lety +36

      @@EOMMunaware harsh. In terms of accomplishments there’s no comparison between her and the rest of the main cast, but she’s really not as useless as people think. I would argue that she is top 10 by the end of the series as far being the most powerful/capable characters.

  • @andriy_tato
    @andriy_tato Před 2 lety +116

    I don't think Sakura staggering Kaguya for a brief moment is a sign of high power level. Tsunade probably would be able to do the same. I think she belongs to Kage level(which is still remarcable considering how ass she was during the whole series).

    • @guyhathansaintil5218
      @guyhathansaintil5218 Před 2 lety +21

      idk i disagee seeing as tsunade needed like two hits just to break madaras susanoo and got clapped by him plus sakura is just blatantly stated to be stronger than tsunade

    • @bofi1280
      @bofi1280 Před 2 lety +3

      @@guyhathansaintil5218 Exactly.

    • @EOMMunaware
      @EOMMunaware Před 2 lety +22

      @@guyhathansaintil5218 LOL, if madara had the intent to kill tsunade he would’ve. He was toying with all the kages it’s even implied . Sakura ain’t even top50 she gets shit on by 70% of the characters underneath her, SWAGKAGE was just trolling YALL

    • @EM-br5hq
      @EM-br5hq Před 2 lety +2

      Yeah it was only because of plot she punched her.

    • @guyhathansaintil5218
      @guyhathansaintil5218 Před 2 lety +8

      @@EOMMunaware wow u are just so wrong about so many things u said but to adress your first point that dosent change my point it actually helps it it took her 2 hits to hurt a madara who was much weaker than kaguya she is definitely not hurting kaguya i feel like u didn't understand what i said and to sakura being strong again adult sakura is literally stronger than everyone in the village except for naruto and sasuke

  • @austinbrianbowers
    @austinbrianbowers Před rokem +8

    Swag makes compromises to agree with Six 🥲 he didn’t wanna agree that sage mode hit harder than KCM. Plus when he fights Nagato and Itachi he point blank says he’s A LOT stronger than he was when he fought against Pain

    • @sarahfortune7760
      @sarahfortune7760 Před 10 měsíci +1

      My mans said he'd put Edo Nagato below Edo Itachi if Six lets him put Sage Kabuto above Edo Itachi. That's a damn deep compromise on Swag's part lol

    • @chineseducksauce9085
      @chineseducksauce9085 Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@sarahfortune7760 Edo Nagato should AT LEAST be 3 or 4 characters above Edo Itachi, Healthy Nagato should be second or first in demi god or last in god

  • @oscarwestbrook1155
    @oscarwestbrook1155 Před rokem

    I love videos lol watched it twice now

  • @razradrenaline
    @razradrenaline Před 2 lety +513

    The problem with kiba is that he never gains another standout move apart from fang over fang, the majority of his moves are just slight modifications that strengthen his base move but unlike Naruto where his various rasengan are all noticeably different in power, fang over fang always just seems basic and weak

    • @ACE360x
      @ACE360x Před 2 lety +7

      Like naruto XD

    • @aerous4484
      @aerous4484 Před 2 lety +4

      Fang Gang Fang

    • @Krazyyy7
      @Krazyyy7 Před 2 lety +29

      Yeah, this was something I disliked. I get the other Leaf village classmates aren’t the main focus, but it would have been nice for them to show or come up with new moves for each of them. Just to show SOME development.
      This is also what happened to Naruto tbh. Naruto got stronger, but it was never because he got new moves. He basically just learned rasengan and another version of it from the OG naruto it until he killed Kakazu… then he learned sage mode. But his “moves” are still the exact same. Then he got KCM and it was still the same moves except he could use a chakra arm. All he uses are shadow clones, 9tails chakra (not even his), and different forms of rasengan. Sasuke on the other hand has new moves or strategies almost every fight. He is doing something thing. He has was more “moves” in his arsenal. But Naruto just has insane chakra and 9 tails chakra. For the main character, he needed to learn new stuff. With all his “power” he should have been able to learn flying raijin or some of Jiraiya’s moves, or some Uzumaki sealing jutsu. Just feel like they could have made Naruto a “cooler” fighter. I could basically predict everything that Naruto would do in a fight. He would spam shadow clones and rasengans and then use talk no jutsu.

    • @Ludoed
      @Ludoed Před rokem +2

      And still Swag put him above C1 Sasuke and 4th Gate Lee which is dumb AF

    • @timeluden1251
      @timeluden1251 Před rokem

      H.

  • @Intrinsety
    @Intrinsety Před 2 lety +61

    I guess it's fitting that, in ranking Naruto characters, a significant number of those characters are just different forms of Naruto

  • @gingerginsengs9292
    @gingerginsengs9292 Před rokem

    I can't believe this video will be 1 year old very soon; I've watched it the moment it came out and it's such a nice memory.

  • @RedLogicYT
    @RedLogicYT Před rokem +5

    No way you guys ranked Madara alive EMS who fought Hashirama alive Sage Mode ABOVE that SAME Hashirama. Hashirama won that battle- and that Madara had to resort to USING THE 9 TAILS CLOAKED SUSANOO VERSION AND STILL LOST. Awful ranking for those 2 specific characters. What more do you need than him literally beating that version of madara? Insane

    • @SRVaris
      @SRVaris Před rokem

      He defeated him through trickery not power
      The Nine Tails wasn't a factor in there fight it lasted about 2 seconds gets beat and then Madara goes on to fight Hashirama alone for 24 hours in which Hashirama is visibly way more damaged then Madara at the end of there fight

    • @hiteshsharma1132
      @hiteshsharma1132 Před rokem +1

      ​@@SRVaris What do you mean Trickery ? Its Madara's fault for not being able to see through Hashirama's Wood Clone. Hashirama won fair and square.

    • @RedLogicYT
      @RedLogicYT Před rokem +1

      @@hiteshsharma1132 yeah hashirama beat madara's ass lets be real

  • @hyypio764
    @hyypio764 Před 2 lety +192

    One big point in favor Tobirama: He's one of the few characters shown to be able to break out of Edo Tensei through sheer power. The only reason why Orochimaru managed to stop him was because he was reincarnated in a Zetsu body. Now this is pretty nutty, since Kabuto's Edo Tensei were reincarnated into regular human bodies, yet someone like Nagato couldn't break out of it.

    • @nawaf1550
      @nawaf1550 Před 2 lety +17

      Where was it said that being reincarnated in a zetsu body make the person weaker then the regular edo tensei?

    • @hyypio764
      @hyypio764 Před 2 lety +19

      @@nawaf1550 Orochimaru could immobilize Tobirama by controlling the cells in the Zetsu body.

    • @nawaf1550
      @nawaf1550 Před 2 lety +13

      @@hyypio764 Again when did they said that? Because I watched the scene not long ago and I don't remember anything about that zetsu make you weaker thing

    • @hyypio764
      @hyypio764 Před 2 lety +12

      @@nawaf1550 It doesn't make you weaker. It makes it so that Orochimaru can control someone who would have otherwise broken free of the jutsu.

    • @vicunaleather6992
      @vicunaleather6992 Před 2 lety +23

      Hashirama cells buffed orochimaru so he was able to subdue tobirama

  • @Dr.SwanPHD_MD_Esquire_the3rd

    Hey Swag I had a weird thought earlier.
    What if Kakazu forcibly stole Hidan’s heart out of his chest and added it to his collection? Hidan’s heart is literally immortal so if Kakazu added it to his collection, wouldn’t that mean that kakazu would also be 100% immortal?
    I NEED ANSWERS BRO HELP MEEEE

    • @renaissent
      @renaissent Před 2 lety +3

      Yoooooo…

    • @doubledeputyd4242
      @doubledeputyd4242 Před 2 lety +39

      They don't answer these kinds of questions. I asked them once if Hidan was able to use the 8 gates would he die or would he be one of the strongest but they told me too many factors to consider and it's one of those things that not even they have a answer to and we'd have to ask the author.

    • @lost8257
      @lost8257 Před 2 lety +17

      @@doubledeputyd4242 I can understand though, they'd have to use a lot a of headcannon, so while they could give you an answer, they could give you a real/definitive one.

    • @IRmightynoob
      @IRmightynoob Před 2 lety +8

      @@doubledeputyd4242
      Though situations like this are probably why most jutsu are as tightly controlled as they are by clans, I mean yeah to protect the business interest but could you imagine what would happen if someone who could regenerate (a trait that is known to exist) got their hands on the gates? Would the same rules still apply to them?
      Nobody knows, but its most telling narratively that nobody wants to find out either.

    • @susify5734
      @susify5734 Před 2 lety +8

      I don’t think it would make him immortal cus it isn’t his heart, he didn’t sacrifice anything to Lord Jashin so he wouldn’t get the Immortality blessing, at least that’s my headcannon

  • @kellerforrest345
    @kellerforrest345 Před rokem +7

    Really fun vid! You are a criminal for putting Sakura that high though… I struggle to imagine a scenario where she even lands a singe hit against Sage mode Naruto… or Minato… in fact I’m pretty confident Pain would grind her into a fine powder.

    • @annisaranisa3333
      @annisaranisa3333 Před rokem +3

      you can hate her but she one of strong caracter..your ignorant is show how you don't now about Naruto caracter.

    • @kellerforrest345
      @kellerforrest345 Před rokem

      **You’re** ignorant in that you don’t **know** how to spell :)

    • @SRVaris
      @SRVaris Před rokem

      Base War arc Sakura is stated to be on par with KCM1.5 & EMS Sasuke so objectively she is beating Sage mode Naruto & Pain

    • @kellerforrest345
      @kellerforrest345 Před rokem

      I’m not saying you’re lying, I just don’t remember that being stated. When was it said and by who? Also I feel a case could be made that sage naruto beats KCM 1.5 due to sensory awareness. Appreciate the reply!

  • @abaileyjr97
    @abaileyjr97 Před 19 dny

    My favorite Swag interview, next to the hokage , Akatsuki ranking, Shinobi rankings, and sasuke and Jiraiya versus akatsuki scaling !??

  • @kingshelomah7083
    @kingshelomah7083 Před 2 lety +59

    Swag: Sees Kaguya fight Sakura.
    Also Swag: “… God Dammit”

    • @mryellow6918
      @mryellow6918 Před 2 lety +2

      I love how she's somehow base as fast as naruto amped by sage mode, and 9 tails and amped by the power of an actual god

  • @imtiabd
    @imtiabd Před 2 lety +49

    I'm just trying to figure out how 3 tomoe Sarada beats EMS Madara, Sage Hashirama or KCM2 Naruto

    • @DrUmar-gu4kp
      @DrUmar-gu4kp Před 2 lety +14

      It definitely sounds incorrect but there are a lot of statements surrounding boro that would make him as strong as the other Kara members(code,delta,koji, etc…..) and Sarada puts in the most work against Boro before he goes berserk so Sarada should at least someone scale to boro. It’s just boruto going crazy with the power creep and not really caring about how much sense it makes narratively.

    • @alexboudrie4998
      @alexboudrie4998 Před 2 lety +6

      I'm tryna figure out how base Boruto (who had to cheat in order to beat Shikadai, lmao) is stronger than start of Shippuden Naruto 🤔

    • @DrUmar-gu4kp
      @DrUmar-gu4kp Před 2 lety +3

      @@alexboudrie4998 they’re obviously referring to current base boruto and not a version from many arcs ago.

    • @alexboudrie4998
      @alexboudrie4998 Před 2 lety +2

      @@DrUmar-gu4kp Well that's dumb, why not have multiple variants of Boruto, because Boruto from the academy is light years weaker than current base Boruto.

    • @courtneylankford7627
      @courtneylankford7627 Před 2 lety +2

      It’s really about deciding what’s a anti feat or not imo it’s a anti feat for boro Sarah’s is not beating a kurama avatar

  • @stumpyalex503
    @stumpyalex503 Před rokem +6

    To be fair, I don't think it's even possible to make an accurate ranking that's more than a 6 or 7/10 in terms of how serious. Between the inconsistencies in the series, the ambiguity of many of the statements and showings, the unbalanced context in many of the fights, and the variety of weird powers and match-ups, a comprehensive ranking using linear powerscaling just isn't going to work in naruto.

  • @jakk1hundo553
    @jakk1hundo553 Před rokem +1

    Put the link in the description! I work full time and I need this!

  • @mizuuuuuuu
    @mizuuuuuuu Před 2 lety +130

    This man is the living example of quality over quantity.

    • @jacobmckinzie65
      @jacobmckinzie65 Před 2 lety +3

      man really said quality AND quantity

    • @arsssf2855
      @arsssf2855 Před 2 lety +4

      He put Isshiki higher then Baryon Mode Naruto when we seen Isshiki kicking Naruto after his baryon ran out. Only reason Naruto survived was because of Kawaki LMAO He even put Boro right below three eyed madara. This tier list is beyond shit

    • @chantc777
      @chantc777 Před 2 lety +5

      @@arsssf2855 he didn't put isshiki above baryon mode lol he said the only person who could compete against him was baryon mode

  • @hycip2120
    @hycip2120 Před 2 lety +55

    The dedication this guy puts into his videos are incredible! Keep it up my man :)

  • @tucker4pf
    @tucker4pf Před rokem +2

    “they’re swapping hands” that just made me giggle profusely

  • @MrGnarVar
    @MrGnarVar Před 10 měsíci +6

    For the Ashura vs Biju Saske I always leaned twords naruto because he makes the 2 attacks with half of Kurama while Indras arrow requires Sasuke to juice up with 8.5 tailed beasts. Also Naruto is fighting for a stalemate in the valley of the end while Sasuke is going for the kill. There is something to be said for a lightning attack neutralizing an attack that's partially a wind release though.