Minato VS Shisui - Who Would Win?

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  • @Swagkage
    @Swagkage  Před 2 lety +232

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    • @bishopgotonetwork6
      @bishopgotonetwork6 Před 2 lety +5

      We need Edo tensei Seth

    • @justjaida2771
      @justjaida2771 Před 2 lety +14

      BRO THEY GOT YOU AGAIN

    • @kidddagiant2320
      @kidddagiant2320 Před 2 lety +1

      Would you do Shino vs Kidomaru please?

    • @vbar964
      @vbar964 Před 2 lety +1

      Can you do a video on kurapika from hxh vs the phantom troupe

    • @afroxshinobi8379
      @afroxshinobi8379 Před 2 lety

      Hey bro love your content. Do you mind telling me what editing software you use?

  • @skyrogue1977
    @skyrogue1977 Před 2 lety +5877

    Considering Shisui got his eye stolen, and Minato couldn’t save Kushina, they weren’t fast enough.

    • @Crossfire145
      @Crossfire145 Před 2 lety +181

      BARK

    • @javsjavs8659
      @javsjavs8659 Před 2 lety +186

      Bruuuuh

    • @quprigon
      @quprigon Před 2 lety +63

      They ignore their opponents power

    • @lighttheprogrammeryt9173
      @lighttheprogrammeryt9173 Před 2 lety +193

      Minato not fast enough to have another child lol

    • @Freakingbad89
      @Freakingbad89 Před 2 lety +73

      @@lighttheprogrammeryt9173 lol yeah he has no time to put it in. Obito attack the village right after kusina gave birth.

  • @Se1fD3struct1on
    @Se1fD3struct1on Před 2 lety +838

    Minato's fights were always the best I think. Because he doesn't ever screw around. Yeah there are fights that are flashier and more epic, but the fact that Minato goes for the kill right off the bat makes me perceive him as far more dangerous than pretty much any other character.

    • @viproductions2410
      @viproductions2410 Před 2 lety +166

      He understands the mission. He doesn't suffer from "but what if they become friends" mindset and instead thinks like "they would kill me if given the chance so I wont"
      Something that doesn't happen alot in naruto

    • @SlimShadly
      @SlimShadly Před 2 lety +27

      @@viproductions2410 he’s not like Goku whatsoever haha

    • @maciekprokop3780
      @maciekprokop3780 Před 2 lety +24

      @@viproductions2410 Run on sight hello?

    • @ninjakiak6644
      @ninjakiak6644 Před 2 lety +27

      compared to other characters that take 5 hours slowly going up to their max power lmao

    • @AlldeLucas
      @AlldeLucas Před 2 lety +22

      I love the fact the he doesn’t play around at the battlefield.
      I would love to see more fights and characters acting like that on the series!
      Imagine beginning of Shipuden Gaara going all out on Deidara
      Or Kakashi trying to Kamui Itachi at the leaf

  • @vrj8791
    @vrj8791 Před 2 lety +311

    Shisui met Itachi when Itachi was 5 and Shisui already had the Mangekyou for 1 year. Shisui died when Itachi was 12. That means that Shisui had the mangekyou for 8 years. How on earth does he know that it takes kotoamatsukami 10 years to re activate?

    • @silvx7184
      @silvx7184 Před 2 lety +36

      Lol good point

    • @thelink6756
      @thelink6756 Před 2 lety +62

      Man by the time I finished shippuden I was so over the sharingon and it's constant ever growing list of BS abilities.

    • @rakimmartinez2557
      @rakimmartinez2557 Před 2 lety +37

      Not only that but its clearly said that he used kotoamatsukami all the time in the war so he obviously got a much shorter cooldown. Anyone else would have a 10 year cooldown, the original owners of the eyes have less intense drawbacks than others. Perfect example being kakashi from zabuza arc to early shippuden couldn't use sharingan/mangekyo without being completely fucked up for days at least.

    • @saltycurtain599
      @saltycurtain599 Před 2 lety +6

      @@rakimmartinez2557 Your right as in the original owners obviously have less drawbacks, but I think the reason he could use it alot in the war was because he was using the other version of Koto, because there are 2, the first one is a weaker version of the other version but has a shorter cooldown as for the other one is more powerful but with a larger cooldown

    • @rakimmartinez2557
      @rakimmartinez2557 Před 2 lety +10

      @@saltycurtain599 that seem likely, but even then he would had to have used the stronger one to be so familiar with it. Like the original comment said he ain't even have the mangekyo for 10 years before he died so how would it work if he had a 10 year cooldown. We'll probably never get a confirmed answer about it but personally I think it would make sense if his stronger koto had maybe a 10 week or 10 month cooldown, 10 days at the most.

  • @EclipseCoD
    @EclipseCoD Před 2 lety +195

    I feel shisui was written to make us hate Danzo so much more. He was built up nicely, not too much, had so much potential, and was absolutely molested by the system before he could ever improve as a shinobi. Danzo using his eye also helped hype up Shisui even more, which leads to us just imagining Shisui to be like Itachi but stronger. But since the writers left it to our imagination and let Danzo disrespect Shisui so hard, we will never know.

    • @MrHarshverdhan
      @MrHarshverdhan Před 9 měsíci +1

      Writer. Manga are story by one author instead of team effort.

    • @CuriousGeorgelover1
      @CuriousGeorgelover1 Před 9 měsíci

      @@MrHarshverdhan Novels have a different author,and considering that's where most of shisui's content is thats why he says writers

    • @skkhammuansangngaihte4989
      @skkhammuansangngaihte4989 Před 8 měsíci

      ​@@MrHarshverdhanhalf of the story won't be there if the editors had Not suggested it example like sasuke Or orochimaru

    • @MrHarshverdhan
      @MrHarshverdhan Před 8 měsíci

      @@skkhammuansangngaihte4989 bud sure but it's miles apart from Marvel or dc idea of writers. With multiple cannons and versions etc.

    • @skkhammuansangngaihte4989
      @skkhammuansangngaihte4989 Před 8 měsíci

      @@MrHarshverdhan still mangas stories are mostly decided by the tops and editor if they want to milk it example like boruto

  • @truenightmare6665
    @truenightmare6665 Před 2 lety +1522

    I love how Swag is the one thing keeping the Naruto Powerscaling community alive.

    • @status7505
      @status7505 Před 2 lety +207

      your not in the community if you think he's the only thing keeping it alive

    • @UchihaEspada
      @UchihaEspada Před 2 lety +2

      Totally ❤️

    • @tyrellturner5602
      @tyrellturner5602 Před 2 lety +120

      Damn completely ignore six huh?

    • @maylabrown4584
      @maylabrown4584 Před 2 lety +25

      After Boruto shanked and molested the corpse......

    • @MR.CLEAN777
      @MR.CLEAN777 Před 2 lety +73

      @@status7505 agreed this statement is extremely disrespectful to the other CZcamsrs in this community that do a great job

  • @guy1nguy2
    @guy1nguy2 Před 2 lety +1883

    If Minato's coolness was factored into his power, he'd be the strongest in the verse (P.S. I animated a skit loosely based on Minato)

  • @cmgswitch2134
    @cmgswitch2134 Před 2 lety +72

    Craziest thing I learned from today’s video: Minato was a complete savage who tried to kill his opponents as fast as possible in the most brutal ways💀

  • @kazabon_
    @kazabon_ Před 2 lety +500

    In terms of speed, body flicker involves moving physically in the spacial dimension while flying ryjin moves the spacial dimension around the caster. Instantaneous action at a distance vs acceleration.

    • @hiyo9144
      @hiyo9144 Před 2 lety +26

      Ahh so technically speaking shisui is faster since he is the one moving and not his immediate surroundings moving around him, correct?

    • @Lh0000
      @Lh0000 Před 2 lety +25

      @hi yo
      Yeah I’d say that’s accurate, but at the same time… I’m not sure if having faster acceleration really helps when your going against teleportation..

    • @OnlyTopia
      @OnlyTopia Před 2 lety +84

      @@Lh0000 body flicker is movement speed, literally most ninjas now how to use it it’s not hard to teach, but Shisui kinda mastered it. Flying Rajin however is hard ash to learn and only two users are known not to mention Minato already fought someone who uses body flicker along with lightning cloak making him 4x faster then shisui.

    • @Phatnaru0002
      @Phatnaru0002 Před 2 lety +3

      What if Itachi was the way he was because Shisui put him under a genjutsu at a very young age, because he felt guilty for all the pain he caused in the war?

    • @carlospedro7050
      @carlospedro7050 Před 2 lety +2

      Basically yh, it's teleportation Vs actual moving Extremely fast. But minato is not as fast as said teleportation (well you can't be faster than teleportation regardless) and that's maybe when shisui can take advantage but imo, he just lacks the feats.

  • @LowKeyJaded
    @LowKeyJaded Před 2 lety +469

    Minato is if I’m not mistaken LITERALLY traveling through space time to teleport instantly. While shisui is just using really fast movement. Now given that while minato has to mark a location and she shisui can just move whenever he pleases, I think it’d be an interesting encounter.

    • @KaoticKitFire
      @KaoticKitFire Před 2 lety +92

      You are correct. The only thing I'll say is that Minato was also implied to be crazy fast outside of FTG. I don't mean necessarily running as fast as Raikage, but his reflexes and reaction speeds are insane.
      The way he can move his body is unreal, but at the same time let's take that encounter with A for example. A blitz him and was already at his face but Minato threw a kunai and teleported to it all in a time frame quicker than A even though he was already at his face. Then he proceed move faster than A while stabbing downward.
      Last thing, is that the body flicker is technically used by everyone to travel really quickly. But they aren't proficient enough to use it in actual combat like Shisui. So maybe that is what Minato is doing as well? Just a thought

    • @johnathanheatherman6438
      @johnathanheatherman6438 Před 2 lety +37

      No. Tobirama claims Minatos Body Flicker is faster then his and arrives long before the other 3 Kage and Sauske.

    • @pkj2148
      @pkj2148 Před 2 lety +7

      @@johnathanheatherman6438 So? He teleports faster. In the end, it's still someone teleporting vs someone moving really fast. There's no way moving fast beats teleportation.

    • @KaoticKitFire
      @KaoticKitFire Před 2 lety +5

      @Justin Arzola That's what I was saying. I was explaining to him that Minato teleports, it's clear to see which one is faster. Plus minato has crazy reflexes and reactions

    • @infinite5516
      @infinite5516 Před 2 lety +34

      @@pkj2148 @PKJ 214 Minato is actually just really freaking fast. If you look at the Raikage vs KCM Naruto, A is constantly saying that Naruto is fast but not as fast as the fourth hokage. With the fact that Naruto isn't using teleportation and just really fast movement, it has to imply that he's just not as fast in physical speed than Minato.
      Tsunade also says "Naruto is matching the Raikage's speed" and then A claims that ever since The fourth's death, nobody has been faster than him which.
      Then Naruto finally blitzes Raikage and the first comparison that's made is "just like the yellow flash", implying that Naruto reached those levels in speed. Additionally, teleportation isn't a speed at all. A lot of the fight contextually just has Minato as a speed beast. And then he can teleport on top of it.
      Naruto chapter 541-542 for reference.

  • @Blaze3062
    @Blaze3062 Před 2 lety +274

    I still really think Shisui deserved a better end or at least a better last fight with how important he was. The fact that there's three versions and none of them are satisfying is frustrating.

    • @onuohafamily
      @onuohafamily Před 2 lety +5

      I think they just made shisui strong to show how much stronger itachi is. Remember itachi was like basically 98% as strong as shisui with just 3 tomoe not even ms because shisui wasn't dead yet.(shisui had a rival with itachi like kakashi and guy where shisui only led by 1 win out of like 50 than itachi but otherwise they were basically even just like kakashi and guy was. Difference is shisui had ms which makes not just your eyes but chakra stronger even if he didn't use his ms his 3 tomoe would be stronger than if he never had ms. And itachi only had 3 tomoe max and was younger than shisui

    • @OnlyTopia
      @OnlyTopia Před 2 lety +12

      @@onuohafamily this is completely headcannon and not true 💀

    • @whatwhy6349
      @whatwhy6349 Před 2 lety +2

      @@OnlyTopia this comment is saying that MS itachi stronger than MS shishui and MS shishui is comparable to 3 tomoe itachi. Which is true because they are rival if not shishui being a little stronger than 3 tomoe itachi.

    • @whatwhy6349
      @whatwhy6349 Před 2 lety +2

      @@OnlyTopia shishui is just that weak

    • @TheRealTact
      @TheRealTact Před 2 lety

      @@whatwhy6349 put some respect on my boi you bum

  • @adamdonovan7269
    @adamdonovan7269 Před 2 lety +269

    "If you're generous to him he's stronger than like a lot of people... but he's just not on that Minato like legendary level." Basically you already have to high ball Shisui and give him every benefit of the doubt and he just can't come close to holding a candle to Minato. Just shows you everything you need to know really doesn't it

    • @whatwhy6349
      @whatwhy6349 Před 2 lety +34

      @@Horrorgamingmoviesf wrong comment is wrong in all conceivable ways.

    • @petervonfrost
      @petervonfrost Před 2 lety +4

      ​@@Horrorgamingmoviesf I agree, except for the Fugaku => Minato thing, at least according to your explanation

    • @petervonfrost
      @petervonfrost Před 2 lety +25

      @@Horrorgamingmoviesf because minato vs kyuubi 1v1 is something different than kyuubi+tobi vs minato with intent to protect konoha and kushina+naruto

    • @Mr.popo_267
      @Mr.popo_267 Před 2 lety +15

      @@Horrorgamingmoviesf fugaku doesn’t have perfect Susano because you need ems or you will go blind. Minato also can react to 8th gate guy was able to teleport in front of guy turn around let the orbs touch his coat then teleport away before to orbs touch him and take the coat off before guy could hit madara

    • @petervonfrost
      @petervonfrost Před 2 lety +4

      @@Mr.popo_267 flying raijin is a good counter vs uchihas so it would be very hard for fugaku susano i guess but we don’t know his ms abilities

  • @mriticcritik8093
    @mriticcritik8093 Před 2 lety +29

    They didn't even mention that Minato has sage mode and I still agree he would absolutely win.

  • @itsnotevenqua
    @itsnotevenqua Před 2 lety +76

    "the boy who could have been" perfect shisui analogy

    • @25-muhammedrehan84
      @25-muhammedrehan84 Před 2 lety +5

      The boy who lived: Harry potter
      The lonely orphan: Naruto
      The boy who could have been: Shisui Uchiha

    • @whatwhy6349
      @whatwhy6349 Před 2 lety +1

      Hotel:trivago

  • @yueflower
    @yueflower Před 2 lety +743

    I have a thought: What if Shisui didn’t exactly want to kill Danzo because killing a council member and more or less an Uchiha member killing him would just throw them into war. (Anbu was watching and “protecting” danzo)

    • @tz1613
      @tz1613 Před 2 lety +111

      that was probably the second plan for danzo. he did all of that and ambushed shisui because he wanted his eyes, as they were one of the most powerful eyes he could get his hands on at the time. but if it were to fail, danzo could simply flee after getting inflicted any physical damage and then cry to the hokage that an uchiha tried to assassinate him, which would lead into a civil war between the uchiha and the rest of the village, most likely.

    • @turkeysgotmorecloutthanyou
      @turkeysgotmorecloutthanyou Před 2 lety +20

      No, it’s because he simply couldn’t kill Danzo. However that is not a bad thing and it’s actually more impressive because the Danzo shisui fights is a lot stronger physically then hokage Danzo as he is stated to be comparable to hirusen by the elders multiple times meaning Danzo is comparable to a much stronger hiruzen who can fight the nine tails a little bit.

    • @Rambo007-_-
      @Rambo007-_- Před 2 lety +5

      @@turkeysgotmorecloutthanyou Don't forget Hiruzen was stronger than all other Hokages of his time .... Just think bout the ones who were reanimated ..... Yes Hiruzen was stronger than them all so Danzo is a beast if he is comparable ...... Shisui is just overhyped he is not they strong

    • @abdullahibrahimhassan7301
      @abdullahibrahimhassan7301 Před 2 lety +21

      @@Rambo007-_- you are high af, hiruzen was never stated to be stronger than 1st and 2nd, he fought them in a very very weak form. Also danzo is no where close to hiruzen, EMS sasuke who shat himself when the 1st and 2nd let a little chakra off, was easily able to kill him even when he spammed izanami multiple times which he didnt have when he confronted shisui for the first time. Shisui's genjutsu is literally said to be the strongest genjutsu only second to the infinte tsukiyomi probably. In addition to this shisui also has a susanoo which danzo wasnt able to do shit against and actually tried to break through with a kunai (quite disgraceful). In short tobirama and hashirama were no where near as powerful when fighting hiruzen who is way stronger than danzo who EMS sasuke rag dolled. So shisui blitzes danzo ez diff.

    • @abdullahibrahimhassan7301
      @abdullahibrahimhassan7301 Před 2 lety +16

      @@Rambo007-_- "hiruzen was stronger than all hokages of his time" there is only one hokage, hiruzen. Other leaders of other villages are all collectively called the kage not the "hokages" . This should show you that you no knowledge when it comes to naruto.

  • @dwilliams380
    @dwilliams380 Před 2 lety +64

    I think people forget to factor the age and experience. Like you said, his potential was endless, but he never realized his full potential. Maybe if people argued Minato at Shisuis age, but there’s not enough evidence for that

    • @MacBoydFanAcc
      @MacBoydFanAcc Před 2 lety +5

      Na Jonin Minato beats him too lol

    • @kuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
      @kuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu Před 2 lety +6

      @@MacBoydFanAcc jonin minato is still older then shisui by alot

    • @MaxIronsThird
      @MaxIronsThird Před 2 lety +10

      @@kuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu Shisui was 19 when he died, Jounin Minato is in his early 20's, so not by a lot.

    • @djghostface292
      @djghostface292 Před 2 lety +5

      @@MaxIronsThird Shisui was 16, not 19

    • @MaxIronsThird
      @MaxIronsThird Před 2 lety +1

      @@djghostface292 nope, nope, he was 6 years older than Itachi and Itachi was 13 when Shisui died, 14 at the time of the massacre.

  • @ethanquirk28
    @ethanquirk28 Před 2 lety +53

    For the Koto argument, you also have to account for Minato’s speed vs visual prowess. Like taking Sasuke vs Ai for example, despite the fact that Amaterasu appears wherever the user is looking, the 4th Raikage was fast enough to just move out the way of it. Minato was even faster. If Minato can move faster than Shisui’s eyes can keep up with, his doujutsu is rendered pretty useless

    • @cantguardb3498
      @cantguardb3498 Před 2 lety +5

      they already say shisui eye don’t need eye contact 😂 it don’t matter how fast minato is and minato needs a kunai to even teleport

    • @ethanquirk28
      @ethanquirk28 Před 2 lety +19

      @@cantguardb3498 yes, Shisui doesn’t need eye contact. Do you know what eye contact is? Thats when two eyes meet. Shisui not needing eye contact means he can just look at someone and use it, they don’t need to be looking into his eyes like a traditional sharingan genjutsu (hence the whole don’t look into an Uchiha’s eyes bit). Minato very blatantly doesn’t need a kunai to teleport as he teleports countless times in the series without using one. He needs a jutsu seal that he can plant on anything he makes contact with and they never disappear (hence why he had one on Obito as an edo tensei despite already being dead because he planted one on him during their fight on the day of Naruto’s birth`0

    • @cantguardb3498
      @cantguardb3498 Před 2 lety

      @@ethanquirk28 no shit

    • @ethanquirk28
      @ethanquirk28 Před 2 lety

      @@cantguardb3498 so you’re admitting your comment was bullshit

    • @AirmatiJin
      @AirmatiJin Před rokem +11

      @@cantguardb3498 This means they don't need to look into Shisui's eyes. Shisui still needs to be able to look at them guy lol. He's saying Minato can move faster than Shisui's eyes can keep up with WHICH is absolutely true. The flying raijin was created to counter the visual prowess of the Sharingan and Minato is the once who improved the flying Raijin to stage 2

  • @moiseslopez981
    @moiseslopez981 Před 2 lety +308

    This is like giving a 12yr old a 50 cal and making them fight against a siberian tiger that can teleport. Shisui has like 2 feats that are so obscure and are different depending on which canon you use. You have to assume soooo much just to make a case that shisui doesn't just get instantly killed by minato.

    • @Reddjet1000
      @Reddjet1000 Před 2 lety +53

      Lmao, people overrate shisui for no reason, but like yeah it's just assumptions😂

    • @fioafionawright8604
      @fioafionawright8604 Před 2 lety +2

      Yeah so feats are the only measure of talent or power, whoever has more automatically bodies 👁👁 , bro I’d put my money on the 12 year old in your example 90% probably got dead eye aim these days, and theyd only have to hit once.

    • @elohim447
      @elohim447 Před 2 lety +28

      @@fioafionawright8604 I’m most cases feats are the most important thing. Statements are also important, but you can’t really scale those as well sense usually they’re pretty vague.

    • @Reddjet1000
      @Reddjet1000 Před 2 lety +23

      @@fioafionawright8604 I mean shisui doesn't really have anything going for him, he has vague statements and that's about it

    • @Bawks_FEET
      @Bawks_FEET Před 2 lety +25

      Damn when u say a Siberian tiger that can teleport it really puts everything into perspective lol

  • @DarkSpartanFTW
    @DarkSpartanFTW Před 2 lety +681

    Well Minato already fought a character that uses Body Flicker. Not only that, but they also had a lighting cloak which enhanced their speed far further. And not only THAT, but Minato was also fighting the 8-tailed Jinchuriki at the same time. And he kicked their asses. So Shisui absolutely stands no chance. Even if you say Shisui is Kage level, Minato fought two Kage level opponents and no diffed them. And this was a slightly weaker Minato than the one used in this video.

    • @AlanJia8
      @AlanJia8 Před 2 lety +12

      Much weaker actually.

    • @MarcelJ17
      @MarcelJ17 Před 2 lety +38

      @Justin Arzola dafuq are you talking about? Shisui was easy Kage-level

    • @Chakralord
      @Chakralord Před 2 lety +7

      @Manipulative Slime they need content lmao 😂

    • @dungeon-wn4gw
      @dungeon-wn4gw Před 2 lety +54

      Minato didn't "no diff" Ay and Bee. Ay actually states that he fought Minato many times meaning that they were clearly relative if they can clash many times and Minato couldn't kill Ay in any of those encounters. And not only this but Minato tells Ay that he thinks the next time they meet, they will probably be Kage. Meaning Ay was fighting tail end of 3rd war Minato and even Hokage Minato. This is consistent because then 16 years later in shippuden, Ay is compared to Minato in speed multiple times.

    • @macraewarnell3486
      @macraewarnell3486 Před 2 lety +7

      @@dungeon-wn4gw ya but its clear that's just because at the time minato couldn't pierce his lightning armor you see the fight minato fucked them up badly but didn't seem to have the means to kill ay unless ya think he was actually just gonna shove that kunai through it minato's maneuverability was way too above ay and in a type match up like that ay got bodied he's comparable to minato but cant come close to beating him simply cuz flying raijin is busted

  • @djuchiha
    @djuchiha Před 2 lety +82

    I like this talk, shisui is my favorite but its clear that he's not stronger than minato at least where he was before death but he definitely had potential to surpass even the strongest opponents possibly minato but we'll never see that come to fruition

    • @SlimShadly
      @SlimShadly Před 2 lety +13

      Minato would’ve only gotten stronger too.

    • @xaze4301
      @xaze4301 Před 2 lety +3

      @@SlimShadly ok but can he beat goku tho

    • @jade7631
      @jade7631 Před 2 lety +2

      @@SlimShadly the tome comparing shisui was like 10 years younger in theory if they weee the same age shisui woukd be stronger bc he has even higher potiential then itachi and itachi was second behind minato

    • @mightguy3118
      @mightguy3118 Před 2 lety

      @@xaze4301 Ok but can goku beat grand priest?

    • @Rhaasen
      @Rhaasen Před rokem +1

      @MMA the thing is, shisui and minato at same age/shisui s way stronger, and shisui could onyl get stronger, he never unlocked his susanoo, never had the chance to get ems or rinnengan etc.. Full potential shisui>>>full potential minato, not close.

  • @brownmushroom8472
    @brownmushroom8472 Před 2 lety

    Ive been waiting for this video for a long time now

  • @TheDarkMaster312
    @TheDarkMaster312 Před 2 lety +442

    Pretty sure Danzo's Koto was eye contact control, and Shisui's other eye was instant domination. The ten year thing may just be a 'youre not the owner of these eyes' thing, because Shisui wasn't even 20 when he died and yet he used Koto on more than one person and was gonna use it on the whole clan.

    • @christopherfleetwood5252
      @christopherfleetwood5252 Před 2 lety +62

      That’s exactly what I thought, both with how the koto eyes work, and the cooldown thing. I always thought it worked like Kakashi’s chakra drain problem, it’s something like 5-10x worse if you’re using but not an Uchiha.

    • @fellowkrieger457
      @fellowkrieger457 Před 2 lety +32

      On Danzo's Koto Swag and Six are correct, it doesn't require eye contact. Danzo was hiding Shisui's eye behind bandages while controlling Mifune at the kage summit. They had to use a Byakugan to spot it.
      Then yeah sure, I would be surprised if Shisui had a 10 years cool down using his own ability, or even 1 type of Koto of his eyes.

    • @vincentmarcellino7183
      @vincentmarcellino7183 Před 2 lety +5

      @@fellowkrieger457 yeah one that's weaker but is unavoidable(you can be broken out but there's no way you're avoiding getting hit) with maybe a proximity and target limit(only one at a time) but a much lower cooldown where the other can't be broken outside of maybe MS level shit and it can cover a few square miles with no target limit(Shisui wanted to use it on the entire clan to prevent the coup)

    • @yanyanzhang5813
      @yanyanzhang5813 Před rokem +2

      Nope. I don’t think it says anywhere that Shisui was going to Koto the entire clan. He was gonna stop the entire clan by using Koto on Fugaku to my knowledge.

    • @yanyanzhang5813
      @yanyanzhang5813 Před rokem +2

      Also, Danzo is the one without the 10 year cooldown, not Shisui. Danzo didn’t have to wait 10 year between each use due to Hashirama cells.

  • @PhantomNull13
    @PhantomNull13 Před 2 lety +532

    I've always assumed that Shisui has an Obito type MS. Both eyes have Koto, but they don't work exactly the same.
    One is weaker, with a shorter cooldown that Danzo uses and Shisui abused during the war, but it's otherwise just a strong Genjutsu that can be broken if you know you're under it.
    The other is the Crow's eye that got used on Itachi, which casually overwrites control of an Edo summon, has a ten year cooldown, and apparently can't be broken as easily. Sasuke and Itachi broke each other out of Sage Kabuto's Tayuya Genjutsu, but Itachi wasn't freed of the jutsu, so if EMS Sasuke can't break it, I don't see how fodder kage guards could've done it to Mifune if they were the exact same.

    • @mlh1367
      @mlh1367 Před 2 lety

      Obito doesn’t have Koto. He had a genjutsu similar to it. And it wasn’t his MS genjutsu like Koto was for Shisui

    • @PhantomNull13
      @PhantomNull13 Před 2 lety +123

      @@mlh1367 I didn't mean Obito has Koto. I meant that just like Obito gained two different Kamui (one long range, one for himself), Shisui gained two different versions of Koto, one weaker but spamable, the other nearly unbreakable.

    • @FlyXcur
      @FlyXcur Před 2 lety +29

      @@PhantomNull13 im pretty sure one is single target and the other has a aoe. The reason I think it works that way is Shisui was going to koto the clan but danzo took his eye so he gives the other eye to itachi. If they were the same Koto he'd just go and still stop the coup.

    • @PhantomNull13
      @PhantomNull13 Před 2 lety +26

      @@FlyXcur maybe, but I don't know. I'd always assumed that he was going to Koto Fugaku and use his influence as head of the clan to, if not stop the coup entirely, then at least delay it until another way could be found.
      The issue with it being AoE is that it doesn't really make sense. If Danzo's eye is the AoE effect, why would he only cast it on Mifune and not the other Kage and their guards? If he were under genjutsu, Aoi shouldn't have been able to reveal it.
      While if the other eye is AoE... that's all kinds of broken if it can place that level of Genjutsu on multiple people. Maybe it was and Itachi just had it set to activate on his eyes and no one else, but that still seems a bit weird. Why would Shisui not immediately Koto the entire clan the second he heard there was gonna be a coup?
      If one eye were AoE, I'd be inclined to say that it was Danzo's and he hadn't realized anyone could've seen through the jutsu, being unaware that Aoi had a byakugan. But either way is a head Canon until Kishimoto says otherwise.

    • @ryang2v
      @ryang2v Před 2 lety +8

      A little off topic but have u ever question the fact that itachi used koto to make him protect the leaf, but then why didn’t he try to fight sasuke when he said he was gonna destroy the leaf

  • @mrnik0ix987
    @mrnik0ix987 Před 2 lety +1

    Awesome Video as always!
    Keep this up i really enjoy your vids mate!

  • @snappygus5013
    @snappygus5013 Před 2 lety

    Nice Kairi lofi in the background 😌👌
    Man has taste 🎶🎼🎵 haha good vid bro

  • @caelumestfinis1624
    @caelumestfinis1624 Před 2 lety +70

    This was more of "How much trouble would Shisui give Minato" than Minato vs Shisui. Another great vid Swag.

  • @novalight2834
    @novalight2834 Před 2 lety +92

    It’s not even close. Shisui gets murdered… Really bad

    • @rikuudo954
      @rikuudo954 Před 2 lety +14

      Shisui is so overrated

    • @whatwhy6349
      @whatwhy6349 Před 2 lety +26

      You guys are downplaying shisui. He actually has more impressive feats and has a very high chance of winning against fetus minato

    • @poundtown9704
      @poundtown9704 Před 2 lety +5

      @@rikuudo954 Minato is overrated. Easily the most overrated character in all of anime, he's not that cool, you guys act like he is literally Jesus

    • @mango7uice
      @mango7uice Před 2 lety

      DAMN😂 you got me on that one!

    • @zoro__6892
      @zoro__6892 Před 2 lety +4

      @@poundtown9704 yea Minato is overrated but he stomps Shisui badly

  • @reallyriley123
    @reallyriley123 Před rokem +45

    Minato is a literal assassin compared to most other even top 1% of ninja😂

    • @sasukethelast9515
      @sasukethelast9515 Před rokem

      Shisui was more of a assassin

    • @reallyriley123
      @reallyriley123 Před rokem +1

      @@sasukethelast9515 only because minato was hokage but in a very specific way yes, I was meaning more minato ALWAYS ends every fight as fast as possible with a kill move or about to kill and they surrender. No fight of his other than the like nine tales and obito lasted more than a couple minutes and shit he even got done with both in like 5 even if it wasn’t ideal. When he was fighting ai and bee he finished it within 2 moves and let them roll out just as a specific example so that’s what I was meaning by assassin shisui didn’t have enough time to develop to get near that level sadly

    • @TheodoreBrosevelt
      @TheodoreBrosevelt Před rokem

      @@sasukethelast9515 but when it comes to skill set, Minato can mark somebody and then pop up on them whenever he wants to

    • @Ganishtamil
      @Ganishtamil Před rokem +1

      @@NONYMOUS96 lol😂 Sasuke Kakashi or Jiraiya i would say

  • @zoomedi2722
    @zoomedi2722 Před 2 lety +4

    Hey Swag, I saw a nice matchup and it might be worth its own VS-Video: Delta from Boruto vs Juubito.
    Maybe difficult cuz of Boruto-Powerlvls but a good idea nevertheless

  • @tonyinfinite5174
    @tonyinfinite5174 Před 2 lety +598

    I think it's best if you compared the two jutsu's in comparison Minato's flying Raijin seems superior to body flicker what's weird is these are completely difficult to teach.
    However body flicker seems to allow for multi jutsu spamming for example Shisui can mix shadow clones with body flicker you can't do this with flying Raijin, and apparently no one else can use it despite the jutsu basically using seals to make it work.

    • @Dragonlord826
      @Dragonlord826 Před 2 lety +89

      body flicker is movement speed from what i've seen i think it's called body flicker is cuz it can leave an after image and minato was stated to have a better body flicker than the 2nd so he's goated

    • @jayash2957
      @jayash2957 Před 2 lety +38

      @@Dragonlord826 shisui was also stated to be the best body flicker ever while minato was alive tho

    • @Dragonlord826
      @Dragonlord826 Před 2 lety +62

      @@jayash2957 bro died before Minato was hokage and Minato was an Edo when the 2nd said that so he's had plenty of time to get better
      Also hard to take what characters say word for word since well lots of inconsistencies

    • @kata3436
      @kata3436 Před 2 lety +67

      Minato can use shadow clones + flying raijin

    • @stratz_0015
      @stratz_0015 Před 2 lety +60

      @@Dragonlord826 Shisui died after Minato did, we know this because the Uchiha Coup de’tat was being planned around the same time that Shisui died, also Minato was never stated to have a better body flicker than Tobirama, he just had a better ftg. But Minato still is faster than Shisui and would beat him in any fight that they had.

  • @Noland_Diving6
    @Noland_Diving6 Před 2 lety +79

    Hi swagkage love the video, here are all the video you said you would do but never did (plus a couple other video ideas but mostly the video you said you would do but never did)
    - Tijutsu technecs (daytime tiger, morning peacock, night moth, evening elephants, etc)
    - Kisame breakdown
    - Haku’s demonic cristal ice mirrors
    - Izanami
    - Infinite tsukiyomi
    - Truth seaking orbs explain
    - Substitution jutsu
    - Creation of all things technique
    - 8 triagrams: palm rotation
    - 8 triagrams: 64 palms
    - 8 triagrams: twin lion fists
    - Carcter breakdown: neji
    - Caracter breakdown: hinata
    - Chunin exams explained
    - Kage explained
    - Hirodora
    - Expansion jutsu
    - Sound jutsu
    - Man beast transformation
    - Ninja art: super beast scroll
    - Karins healing jutsu
    - Konen paper jutsu
    - Raikag’s linghtning chakra cloak
    - Madaras limbo clones
    - Anamatgi cara sasukes renegan teleportation jutsu
    - Naruto fights tier list
    - Minato vs obito
    - Naruto vs jiraya
    - Sakura vs tsunade
    - Neji vs hinata
    - Zabuza vs tobirama
    - Obito vs madara
    - Sakura vs naruto
    - Kakashi vs obito
    - Madara vs all Hokage
    - Ino-shika-cho vs neji lee and ten ten
    - Kid kakashi, obito and rin vs kid naruto, sasuke, and Sakura
    - Konoha 11 vs akasuki
    - 3 legendary sanin vs pain
    - Jiraya vs minato
    - Naruto vs minato
    - 3 legendary sanin vs akatsuki
    - Hashirama vs the 3rd raikage
    - 3 legendary sanin vs team 7 ( Naruto, Sasuke, Sakura)
    - What if Naruto master flying thunder god
    - Ginu force (dragon ball) vs Naruto and Sasuke
    - Shipuden Neji vs kabuto
    If read to this point, Please like so that I Know you read all Your ideas and some of mine, hopefully it isn’t too much and I will be looking forward to seeing your next video

    • @sunnyp6982
      @sunnyp6982 Před 2 lety +3

      he did so many of these

    • @OFFONE
      @OFFONE Před 2 lety +1

      This needs more likes the man. Reds video ideas

    • @determination982
      @determination982 Před 2 lety

      Ginu vs naruto is sasuke is just so unfair, i dont think anyone in naruto can kill Nappa apart from hax maybe.

    • @dank_tomatoes1165
      @dank_tomatoes1165 Před 2 lety +1

      I wanna see a video where he compares the amenotejikara and the flying raijin in terms of usage and which is the more stronger and versatile

    • @Zeno1781
      @Zeno1781 Před 2 lety

      @@determination982 no they would. Actually I think the new era kages are enough for the Ginyu force.
      The new era kages should scale to if not above kaguya. Kaguya being someone who by merely existing was gonna destroy a dimension with a star in it making her a star buster which no of the Ginyu force members can do.

  • @haydenjeffery3627
    @haydenjeffery3627 Před 2 lety +1

    This editing is fire 🔥 🔥🔥

  • @BeardedSquirrelVR
    @BeardedSquirrelVR Před 2 lety +1

    Yo I’ve been watching him for YEARS now and I still have the same excitement when he uploads

  • @ddswordsaint5
    @ddswordsaint5 Před 2 lety +224

    Shisui was only a child and was feared by everyone. Now imagine him as a adult! There's no way they'd let him live.

    • @lordofleaves257
      @lordofleaves257 Před 2 lety +28

      kishimoto killed me off cuz he knew the verse would not be able to handle an adult Shisui

    • @ddswordsaint5
      @ddswordsaint5 Před 2 lety +9

      @@lordofleaves257
      I totally agree. Would of just love to see it tho.
      He'd be a God

    • @lordofleaves257
      @lordofleaves257 Před 2 lety +12

      @@ddswordsaint5 an idea I've had for a spin-off fan series;
      Shisui after losing his eye realizes he can't use his genjutsu in the whole clan, but instead of killing himself helps Itachi with the Uchiha massacre. They both join the Akatsuki as a team

    • @ddswordsaint5
      @ddswordsaint5 Před 2 lety +5

      @@lordofleaves257
      Love that idea

    • @dolphinboy6201
      @dolphinboy6201 Před 2 lety +22

      It would be scary if Minato, Shisui or Itachi lived up to their fifties. Kishimoto killed them off since he knew the series couldn't handle any of them

  • @jeffreycrewe8314
    @jeffreycrewe8314 Před 2 lety

    I need more of ya vids bro I watched damn near everything already 😭

  • @andrejudd8589
    @andrejudd8589 Před 2 lety

    When you said you did this video with Six, I pumped my fist irl. Hella dope vid, wish you could redo some of your other vs videos with Six

  • @cliffbot638
    @cliffbot638 Před 2 lety +42

    I have a personal headcanon that Minato trained with leg weights like Lee and that he can move like weightless Lee and chunin exam Sasuke but much, much faster. Plus using chakra to enhance his speed.

    • @Reddjet1000
      @Reddjet1000 Před 2 lety +3

      My question is, why doesn't everyone do that? Like everyone would just be so fast if they did

    • @gleo4191
      @gleo4191 Před 2 lety +1

      @@Reddjet1000 lee and everyone else does use chakra when they body flicker which is that teleport like thing they do. some are just better at it, like shisui who was goated at it

    • @Reddjet1000
      @Reddjet1000 Před 2 lety +1

      @@gleo4191 no but why doesn't everyone do what lee did? They could use weights and get faster like Lee did

    • @roguerex292
      @roguerex292 Před 2 lety +4

      @@Reddjet1000 I’m pretty sure lee is just physical stronger then regular ninjas because that’s all he trained. And why would they train like a regular person when they Have super ninja powers. I think guy and lee was kinda of like the pioneers of that anyway

    • @Reddjet1000
      @Reddjet1000 Před 2 lety

      @@roguerex292 fair

  • @prismssj8532
    @prismssj8532 Před 2 lety +35

    Tbh, Minato just has more feats than Shisui so from what we already know it's a landslide on The Yellow Flash's part

    • @poundtown9704
      @poundtown9704 Před 2 lety +2

      Like what? The only thing we've ever seen him do is teleport with kunai, seal away the Ninetales, and then suddenly go KCM mode. Honestly I think Naruto has more beats than him even before sage of six paths

    • @kaance2189
      @kaance2189 Před 2 lety +7

      @@poundtown9704 of course Naruto has more feats than him the fucking show is called naruto

    • @thushar2006
      @thushar2006 Před 2 lety

      @@poundtown9704 I guess those are enough feats to be considered when compared to shisui's feats

    • @shinoobigod3363
      @shinoobigod3363 Před 2 lety +4

      @@poundtown9704 i mean shisui is featless. All we know is he was known as shisui the teleporter and he was the strongest genjutsu user due to kotoamatsukami. We don't know how strong he really is cause we aint see him do much. Also when people downplay him about getting his eye stolen from danzo is pretty unfair cause he caught danzo in a genjutsu he shouldn't been able to break out of and dropped his guard cause he didn't expect danzo to have izanagi.

    • @seanchristian7677
      @seanchristian7677 Před 2 lety

      @@poundtown9704 delete this comment

  • @Zlxdxzz
    @Zlxdxzz Před 2 lety

    Swag dropped vid…. Yk it’s gonna b a good day✅🅿️

  • @gavindevore6578
    @gavindevore6578 Před 2 lety

    That remixed Persona 5 Music in the background is amazing!

  • @TheDahaka1
    @TheDahaka1 Před 2 lety +29

    Doesn't the "no eye contact required" thing for the Koto Amatsukami mean that the target doesn't need to look directly in Shisui's eyes to be affected? I would think that Shisui himself still needs to look directly at his target, just not in the eyes.

    • @opticsop975
      @opticsop975 Před 2 lety +1

      He does I think but I think they saying that someone like if Naruto fought shisui naruto wouldn’t have to look at shisuis eyes

    • @TheDahaka1
      @TheDahaka1 Před 2 lety +2

      @@opticsop975 No, no, they were wondering if he just needed to think about the target at any distance and with whatever obstacles in between, or if it was limited by range or something else, but it was all speculation on the phrase "Hisui doesn't need eye contact to use Koto Amatsukami". Since evry other Sharingan based genjutsu requires the target to see the eyes of the user, I think that Shisui simply has to look at the target, even if the target doesn't see him.

  • @TEAMKYR
    @TEAMKYR Před 2 lety +46

    Im pretty sure that kotoamatsukami wouldn’t be able land because at least in the novel, he states that he needs to look at the other person’s eye, but it doesn’t need to be mutual eye contact. Minato should be relative to shisui at body flicker and he could also use flying raijin to keep his away from shiui’s gaze

    • @mango7uice
      @mango7uice Před 2 lety +2

      Minato has sage mode so he doesn’t need to open his eyes

    • @sageanimations2463
      @sageanimations2463 Před 2 lety +2

      @@mango7uice kotoamatsukami is a op jutsu it isn't like a normal genjutsu it just completely manipulates a person without their consent and they would act without even realizing it

    • @TEAMKYR
      @TEAMKYR Před 2 lety +1

      @@mango7uice true, since he usually goes for a kill and he knows he's up against an uchiha, he may not want to take the risk of accidentally opening his eyes and may just opt for a blind sage mode, negating kotoamatsukami

    • @TEAMKYR
      @TEAMKYR Před 2 lety +1

      @@sageanimations2463 The point was that shisui needs to look at someone's eyes to activate the jutsu, if minato closes his eyes, then he can't activate it

    • @ggffggff7349
      @ggffggff7349 Před 2 lety

      Why would you say he’s relative despite multiple statements of him being the best at it 😭

  • @cindersofdeath5218
    @cindersofdeath5218 Před 2 lety +81

    I've always described Minato as in the second tier of Naruto, at least pre-war. Him and Obito are second only to Madara and Hashirama. They can definitely throw hands with and contend temporarily with the top, and they most likely won't win, but it will never be a total stomp.

    • @isaiahh.6871
      @isaiahh.6871 Před 2 lety +4

      Minato couldn’t hang with either one. Obito could against madara a bit but he can only run from hashirama.

    • @cindersofdeath5218
      @cindersofdeath5218 Před 2 lety +9

      @@isaiahh.6871 Hashirama and Madara are stated to be equals, and Minato could because of Flying Raijin and Sage Mode.

    • @NightWing1800
      @NightWing1800 Před 2 lety +17

      I don't think Minato stacks up to Madara or Hashirama before his death. Minato dies to the nine tails, and while this was after fighting Obito most of the fatigue Minato had was from protecting the village by teleporting away beast bombs. We could argue that he'd have done better if he hadn't needed to protect the village, but that still makes it hard to argue he could hold his own against Hashirama or Madara. Hashirama on the other hand was not only able to best all the tailed beasts, but he was able to fight Madara and the nine tails at the same time.
      Now if Minato had lived a full life? Absolutely. He probably could have surpassed Madara and Hashirama. He died at 24. Hashirama and Madara were older when they fought. I would be surprised if Minato couldn't work out Rasenshuriken or a similar wind style rasengan if he had more time to refine his jutsu. The guy went perfect sage on his first try. He would have learned alot. If we consider Nine Tails Minato at the point he died, then I think that Minato would be more comparable to the living Hashirama and Madara. Again, he went KCM cloak immediately without any practice. Using Naruto as a baseline, that's a huge amp not just in terms of speed and power but in how much chakra he can pull from.

    • @raducora7159
      @raducora7159 Před 2 lety +15

      @@NightWing1800 One observation, though. Minato died because he used the Ripper Death Seal on the 9 tails to literally split it in 2 halves. Mind you, the only other person to have ever performed a tailed beast split (although on a much larger scale) was Hagoromo.

    • @hiddenweebvillage9658
      @hiddenweebvillage9658 Před 2 lety

      @@raducora7159 technically hagoromo did the split being twice as big if you count the amount of chakra they have

  • @kiixil9173
    @kiixil9173 Před 2 lety +1

    Love the megumi fushigurou theme remix in the background

  • @OveranalyzingNaruto
    @OveranalyzingNaruto Před 2 lety +160

    Kind of off topic, but Isn't there a seal that can counter mental attacks as well? I know Houki was trained by Sai to use something similar, but I wouldn't doubt Minato having something similar. I do agree with Minato winning regardless of though.

    • @Habib_Xon
      @Habib_Xon Před 2 lety +5

      blatant headcannon but he wins regardless so

    • @heroricspiritfreinen38
      @heroricspiritfreinen38 Před 2 lety +1

      That's such mad headcanon

    • @OveranalyzingNaruto
      @OveranalyzingNaruto Před 2 lety +16

      I never said "It's a fact! He hases it!!!" I simply said I wouldn't be surprised if he does has a sealing justu that works in a similar way. I know theres no proof whatsoever. That's why I didn't say he has it because xyz.

    • @haku8135
      @haku8135 Před 2 lety +5

      There is no sealing jutsu that I know of that makes you immune to Genjutsu.
      Genjutsu is also not a mental attack. What we see in Houki's fight in Boruto is a skill that he developed under Sai to counter NINJUTSU that attacks the mind, such as the mind transfer jutsu of the Yamanaka clan. It might help with genjutsu based torture techniques, but it doesn't not just reject genjutsu full stop.
      On top of that, the way Shisui's genjutsu works would make such a defense irrelevant. His kotoamatsukami is so subtle the victim doesn't realize anything has happened at all. Unless an outside ally tells them they're under genjutsu, he'll never even know there's something he needs to defend against.

    • @Habib_Xon
      @Habib_Xon Před 2 lety

      @@OveranalyzingNaruto thats why its called headcannon

  • @truenightmare6665
    @truenightmare6665 Před 2 lety +28

    Man, Shuisui is all hype and about one real ability, while Minato has several feats and scaling. I love Shusui but the man gets stomped into Saturday.

    • @poundtown9704
      @poundtown9704 Před 2 lety

      @You have to know dude shut up, I've seen you spend that like six times already in this comment section alone

    • @poundtown9704
      @poundtown9704 Před 2 lety +1

      Please explain to me what Minato can do besides teleport that's the only thing he's ever shown to be able to do. I literally don't get the hype he seems very bland just like Tobirama

    • @Jsipki265
      @Jsipki265 Před 2 lety

      @@poundtown9704 well several feats and statements from powerful people from the series also he is combatively intelligent he also has mastery over ftg

  • @xoabys5180
    @xoabys5180 Před 2 lety

    The legend has returned'

  • @pxssive60fps
    @pxssive60fps Před 2 lety

    I love your videos. Anytime I have an anime debate I watch your videos first 😂😂

  • @samgiangrande8354
    @samgiangrande8354 Před 2 lety +7

    I love how swag uses his plush as his representative it’s so funny

  • @jakoryhunter4074
    @jakoryhunter4074 Před 2 lety +4

    Hey Swag I just wanted to say that I am so thankful for the work you do! You make the narutoverse so easy to understand! You are much appreciated. Can you do a video on what may have killed Hashirama?

  • @haydentomlinson4613
    @haydentomlinson4613 Před 2 lety

    Great vid

  • @demontiming3234
    @demontiming3234 Před 2 lety +42

    To be fair, in all the renditions, Shisui never goes all out or really tries at all. In the anime he completely underestimated Danzo I’m assuming because he knows that he’s much stronger than him without Danzo having those eyes. But if he actually tried he definitely beat Danzo if he could just genjutsu him that easily. In Naruto you can’t just take every fight as oh he lost so he’s weaker. Their is major context
    Also Shisui didn’t just use Koto because he still had the plan to use it on the Uchiha clan. If he’d have wasted it’s use on Danzo then it’d just mess up the whole plan.

    • @Alexander-ng7zz
      @Alexander-ng7zz Před 2 lety +7

      Still doesn't matter even if you argue he was stronger than Danzo, Minato is on a whole other level compared to Danzo so it really doesn't matter.

    • @djghostface292
      @djghostface292 Před 2 lety

      Exactly

    • @AMAZIAH
      @AMAZIAH Před rokem +5

      @@Alexander-ng7zz Indeed he is. But Itachi said Shisui was the real prize of the Uchiha clan.
      His speed is greater than Itachi's. Itachi was faster than everyone with his natural speed. So there goes natural speed.
      He had a battle IQ on par with Itachi. The confirmed smartest tactician in the series. There goes tactics.
      Susanoo isnt getting cracked by any of those rasengans. So there goes Minato's strongest justsu.
      This fight is not as one sided as Swag put it. Minato would be lucky to win this fight.
      Do you have to give Shisui the benefit of the doubt? Yes.
      But its not like you're giving him the benefit of the doubt with no bases.
      Itachi when he left the village was a run for the 3rd Hokage's money.

    • @AMAZIAH
      @AMAZIAH Před rokem +3

      @@Alexander-ng7zz add insult to injury. Obito had to specifically keep Obito in the dark. Post Madara training Obito vs Minato was considered a close match by Minato himself. The FTG saved this mans life. Obito almost 20 years later said Itachi would killed him long ago. If he knew everything about him.

    • @Alexander-ng7zz
      @Alexander-ng7zz Před rokem +2

      @@AMAZIAH Prize of tbe uchiha clan, when did he make that statement?
      When did the show ever imply he was faster than itachi? Even if he was, he died when itachi was a teen. Itachi obviously got way stronger compared to his anbu days.
      When did they say he had itachi’s iq? Again even if he did this was compared to anbu itachi.
      You say that as if rasengan is the only jutsu he knows, he was a master in sealing jutsus, would most likley have one in his sleeve to take down shisui in his susanoo. Im making assumptions here ig but even if he isnt able to do that, not like shisui would be able to maintain his susanoo for long. All minato needs to do is stall him until he drains his susanoo which shouldn’t be hard given his speed advantage.

  • @yokuutsu9097
    @yokuutsu9097 Před 2 lety +14

    The awkward thing about Shisui is that the only time we get a good gauge on him is in a game of all things..

  • @SaucySmith
    @SaucySmith Před 2 lety +3

    Swagkage always surprising me with the comparisons 😂

  • @1999_reborn
    @1999_reborn Před 2 lety

    Six was a good addition to the entire narutoverse tier list video

  • @eonmusic00001
    @eonmusic00001 Před 2 lety +1

    That picture of Minato on the Minato wins screen is so perfect just looks so enthusiastic almost like he knew he won

  • @cypherbrittainnethegodofsl4988

    Can you do Guy vs Juubito? Because we all know that Madara would've kill Guy easily but he went easy on him.

    • @prismssj8532
      @prismssj8532 Před 2 lety +8

      He let Guy wail on him tbh

    • @preflexy545
      @preflexy545 Před 2 lety +4

      @@prismssj8532 lol ok

    • @Zeno1781
      @Zeno1781 Před 2 lety +22

      @@prismssj8532 guy almost killed him. Well he did actually let it happen but at some point madara said ayo if I just let this happen I might actually die.
      That's when he started protecting himself with the truth seeking orbs

    • @Jeffthefry
      @Jeffthefry Před 2 lety +10

      False. Guy went easy on madara and let naruto rescue him for the glory.

    • @rikuudo954
      @rikuudo954 Před 2 lety +25

      It was a 5v1, Guy, Kakashi, Gaara, Minato and Lee vs Six paths Madara. People pretend the fight it was a 1v1

  • @joshuarivas8979
    @joshuarivas8979 Před 2 lety +5

    honestly the body flicker vs the yellow flash is a fire fight

    • @javsjavs8659
      @javsjavs8659 Před 2 lety +2

      just the names gives one goosebumps man. Imagine a world with alive Minato fighting a full-powered Uchiha-sided rogue Shisui. My god

  • @Dukeunoo
    @Dukeunoo Před 2 lety

    I appreciate how in all these videos six always giving context on some of these points people give cuz I be confused sometimes

    • @davidhendersonii221
      @davidhendersonii221 Před 2 lety

      Off topic, but what Justus did Minato use before he learned FTG and Rasengan? Like he didn’t learn those until he was already a Jonin/Anbu. So like what was he using during his Genin and Chunin days?

  • @ZeRoBullsnit
    @ZeRoBullsnit Před 2 lety

    Bro six is comedy asf i loved the afro and kabuki debate 🤣 that shit had my ass rollin

  • @davidbalogun7569
    @davidbalogun7569 Před 2 lety +24

    I do think Shisui's wyes probably have a slightly different version in each eye kinda like kamui. The one itachi used is probably the ridiculous "I can look at you and make you do whatever the fuck I want you cant resist" mind control power but needs eye contact and the one Danzo uses is the "you dont even realise you're being controlled" which doesn't need eye contact but can be broken out of easily

  • @chrisagada
    @chrisagada Před 2 lety +8

    It's funny how no-one attempted using Body Flicker or Reverse-Summoning to dodge Kamui.

  • @jonathanhenry6534
    @jonathanhenry6534 Před 2 lety

    About time you started posting man

  • @SubarashiReaper
    @SubarashiReaper Před 2 lety

    Thanks so much for making this video my friend was trying to debait this.

  • @aarondemiri486
    @aarondemiri486 Před 2 lety +26

    shisui was a best high jounin to low kage no way he's beating a high tier kage like Minato

    • @thebandanapirates8591
      @thebandanapirates8591 Před 2 lety +5

      He was definitely stronger than that in power but he was in general a fairly timid shinobi

    • @turkeysgotmorecloutthanyou
      @turkeysgotmorecloutthanyou Před 2 lety

      If you use the games then he’s high kage since he was able to fight on par with Danzo

    • @aarondemiri486
      @aarondemiri486 Před 2 lety +1

      @@turkeysgotmorecloutthanyou putting Danzo high kage tier is very debatable and he is not on the level of Tobirama Mu Gengetsu and the third raikage

    • @turkeysgotmorecloutthanyou
      @turkeysgotmorecloutthanyou Před 2 lety

      @@aarondemiri486 if you use the games then shisui was fighting on par with a Danzo who is stronger then the Danzo who fought sasuke physically anyways. Danzo 10 years before the sasuke fight is stated by the elders to be on par with hiruzen who boxed the 9 tails for a minutes before minato returned. Danzo back then is stronger then the Danzo who dodged a point blank chidori from sasuke who should be stronger then the sasuke who fought v1 Raikage and all of this while having a hole in his chest. Danzo then is stronger then hokage Danzo who tore open a V3 susanoo with basic wind style and is compared to hiruzen who is the strongest of his generation. Danzo then is stronger then the danzo who was reacting to susanoo arrows that almost blitzed and one shot mangekyo kakashi and he only avoided them because Sasuke had bad aim. Danzo at this point is stronger then the Danzo who by reputation was strong enough to beat kakashi, was respected by obito, and was respected by Itachi. Hokage Danzo who was nerfed and old was already high kage level debatably, the Danzo who fought shisui was definitely high kage level

  • @ritxual-8719
    @ritxual-8719 Před 2 lety +7

    Shisui doesn’t have enough feats and minato is faster by a long shot no doubt minato stomps unless shisui has the non canon perfect susanoo from storm 4 but we don’t count that so minato stomps

  • @hiyo9144
    @hiyo9144 Před 2 lety

    Yeeeeessssssssssssssss, finally I can’t wait to see it.

  • @izmizzle
    @izmizzle Před 2 lety

    I recently read through the daylight and midnight books out of interest because of the reference to the former book in the young itachi video. thanks for giving me a good way to pass the time on an oceanic flight

  • @nothingman7163
    @nothingman7163 Před 2 lety +91

    Shisui imo had the potential to grow in power similar to Itachi / Minato but died too young. Shisui received a similar reputation to younger Minato where people essentially had “run on sight” and while he used body flicker anyone who was not an Uchiha / sharingan user (and maybe Byakugan user) thought it was teleportation cause it was so fast. I do believe Shisui even at his peak would have been slightly below Minato BUT if he was able to get EMS and perfect susanoo I think it would be a close fight even with KCM Minato.
    Also, Minato is too fast and clever; within 2 seconds Minato would realize Shisui isn’t truly teleporting but moving incredibly fast between space and warp a kunai in his path lol.
    TLDR: Shisui potential = 4th strongest Hokage (Naruto; Hashirama; Minato; Shisui) but he died too young to reach peak.

    • @natsusatsujinki8342
      @natsusatsujinki8342 Před 2 lety +13

      😂 you made sense until you start ranking Hokages. Every Kage minus Tsunade and Kakashi would destroy Shisui in a 1v1. You disrespected on of the best Hokage by leaving Tobirama out. Dude created jutsu just to beat Uchiha. Tobirama also required 20 S ranked ninja to go after him. No other character or Kage needed that much to kill him.

    • @pkj2148
      @pkj2148 Před 2 lety

      I don't see how someone, no matter how fast they are, can move faster than teleportation.

    • @nothingman7163
      @nothingman7163 Před 2 lety

      @@pkj2148 are you saying Minato or Shisui? Cause that was my point; Shisui is not truly teleporting. Minato is

    • @nothingman7163
      @nothingman7163 Před 2 lety +4

      @@natsusatsujinki8342 Shisui at the peak peak of his potential power would be able to defeat Tobirama imo. But not the other 3.

    • @natsusatsujinki8342
      @natsusatsujinki8342 Před 2 lety +10

      @@nothingman7163 bruh do you even know who invented the Flying Thunder God Technique? Tobirama. He was fast enough to catch Madara's brother off guard. Madara's brother was just as powerful as he was. Madara, Tobirama, and Hashirama could fight for a day. There's no way Shisui can last in a battle. Tobirama is way more battle tested.

  • @Preet_1223
    @Preet_1223 Před 2 lety +11

    Jesus Christ is our Lord and Savior ✝️❤️

  • @VirtualShogun
    @VirtualShogun Před 2 lety

    Yo that background Kingdom Hearts remix is 🔥

  • @jw-in5te
    @jw-in5te Před 2 lety +4

    How kotoamatsukami works according to what I've been able to glean
    1) The eye Danzo had is the super subtle genjutsu that doesn't require eye contact, but can be broken out of normally. Can probably be used at will given Danzo using it on Mifune so casually.
    2) The eye Itachi had is the unbreakable genjutsu with a 10 year cooldown that requires close eye contact.

    • @penielokujere982
      @penielokujere982 Před 2 lety

      I agree with you. That’s the only logical explanation

  • @TheNinjaMonkey43
    @TheNinjaMonkey43 Před 2 lety +7

    They call him shisui the teleporter, but he doesnt actually teleport.
    They call minato the yellow flash, but he actually teleports.
    Enough said.
    The only way shisui wins, is if he ass pulls kotoamatsukami before minato can blitz him. Or overwhelm him with flying raijin

  • @majinbeezy
    @majinbeezy Před 2 lety +5

    I never really understood the gassing of Shisui, no feats & this super powerful genjutsu can be released by a genin/chunin level technique

  • @Twiska
    @Twiska Před 2 lety +1

    I miss the videos with just Swag. I felt especially for versus videos they were more detailed and focused.

  • @Riska7
    @Riska7 Před 2 lety

    you sound like you actually like raid shadow legends love to see it

  • @kami716
    @kami716 Před 2 lety +3

    8:43 bro rapping 😂

  • @lukes401k
    @lukes401k Před 2 lety +5

    If I have my numbers right, shisui is three years older than Itachi. Itachi participated in the 3rd war at the ripe old age of 4, putting shisui at 7 years old. I'm going to add a year, because why not. This means that an 8 year old shisui (who I think had MS) scared Ao. That's just crazy man

  • @aliveandwellinisrael2507
    @aliveandwellinisrael2507 Před 2 lety +21

    I didn't think it was such a question among the community. I always thought it was relatively obvious that someone who had as many feats and narrative bits supporting him would be stronger than Shisui. Koto wouldn't be a problem if Minato teleported to him and stabbed him in the eyes. If Danzo can play "gotcha eye!" then a character with space time jutsu who was known as the fastest Shinobi could definitely accomplish it. If people agree Minato could/did beat the Obito of that time period, why wouldn't he beat Shisui? Itachi knows Shisui's strength, yet didn't both him and Minato come to the conclusion that teen Obito was Madara? (dw I'm not saying Minato>Madara, just that they both thought "this guy is impressive enough to possibly fit the legends told about Madara" etc) At the very least, if Shisui has susanoo in canon and Minato couldn't get through it, Minato just leaves. Shisui isn't outright killing him or leaving him beaten. I don't see that happening though, since Minato likes to leave hiraishin marks on opponents and get them when their defense is lowered. Maybe he can even teleport into that small area within the susanoo where the user and those they protect can stand in. Shisui blasts a bunch of yasaka magatama, dust flies up obscuring Minato's last position, then suddenly he's inside the susanoo with a kunai at Shisui's throat.

    • @theop1478
      @theop1478 Před 2 lety

      But they didn't see Obito's feats and think he is impressive to be Madara, maybe Minato a little....itachi only followed the fact that he said it himself that he is Madara, Obito was way more conscious of Itachi that he hid his abilities, I assume it was Kamui, if this is the case, I think obito would have been terrified of Shisui if he treated Itachi this way.

    • @isaiahh.6871
      @isaiahh.6871 Před 2 lety

      How tf is minato even touching shisui. Bro is not teleporting and stabbing him in the eye.

    • @isaiahh.6871
      @isaiahh.6871 Před 2 lety

      Shisui was poisoned before danzo attacked him

    • @isaiahh.6871
      @isaiahh.6871 Před 2 lety

      Obito and shisui are 2 completely different ppl with different abilities. Btw if they rematched obito would’ve won. I’m pretty sure minato admits this but I could be wrong. Obito should’ve won the first time but for some reason he forgot how his own sensei jutsu worked.

    • @George-zc6dj
      @George-zc6dj Před 2 lety +1

      @@theop1478 itachi literally realised he was "madara" due to what he had done, youre incorrect there. obito was cautious because he knew itachi was a double agent, but he also needed itachi on his side too. if you really think obito would be terrified of a kid who got shitstomped by danzo, youve got the wrong idea

  • @MadMax22
    @MadMax22 Před 2 lety +6

    Shisui is physically fast while Minato is fast in more ways than one but it's the technical aspect of his jutsu that adds a lot to it.

  • @KingsOfLosers123
    @KingsOfLosers123 Před 2 lety +4

    Hmmm.... 8th Gate Guy? I mean, in a race, his raw speed would probably be crazy since he ran fast enough to distort time-space when he was about to kick Madara with Night Guy.

  • @taa347
    @taa347 Před 2 lety +4

    I think the best part of this matchup is that they both had "run on sight" orders in the wars. That's such a massive flex honestly.
    Also I think it's important to note that Swag has made a point before of making it clear that an age difference can mean a lot. We're definitely comparing a teenager to a guy in his mid-twenties.
    If Shisui had been able to live and train another 8 years, imagine the possibilities. Even Itachi died at an age younger than Minato was during the Nine-Tails attack.

    • @PappiiSensei101
      @PappiiSensei101 Před 2 lety +1

      Shisui never had a run on sight order people just didn’t want to fight him because his name. Just trying to clear up the misconception.

    • @fluff6811
      @fluff6811 Před 2 lety +2

      I hate using age as a point, Naruto and Sasuke are the 4th and 5th strongest characters in Shippuden and they’re both 17. Like sure, younger characters will likely grow stronger with age, but that also applies to the older characters as well, especially in this case with Minato being relatively young. So yeah, sure, a hypothetical 30 yr old Shisui could potentially beat alive Minato, but what is the point of that in discussion?

  • @AliHassan-ds8cb
    @AliHassan-ds8cb Před 2 lety

    Thanks swag

  • @maxgoldstein6309
    @maxgoldstein6309 Před 2 lety

    Just gotta say, my Swag plush looks fire on my shelf!

  • @jayarramos5366
    @jayarramos5366 Před 2 lety +5

    There are so much potential for shisui. I have 3 questions for shisui feats.
    1: how fast is shisui? this kid is literally capable of creating afterimages with the teleportation justu.
    2: Doesnt kotoamatsukami work on one person at a time and require eye contact. Maybe I need to rewatch some scenes, but I thought that it did require eye contact. I also remember when someone tried to debate me that koto can affect multiple people at once, however in the novel, shisui admitted that he was only capable of putting fugaku alone in Koto.
    3: how good at taijustu is shisui? In the novels Shisui was keeping up with an elite jonin hyuuga in taijustu. Their fight took place when shisui was like 11 or 12 I think.

    • @Dj-fb8bs
      @Dj-fb8bs Před 2 lety +3

      So in simple terms he’s overrated😂😂😂

    • @aliveandwellinisrael2507
      @aliveandwellinisrael2507 Před 2 lety +1

      Seems like weaker (Danzo's) koto can do it with a lower cooldown time, without the MS even having to look at the target (since he mindfucked Mifune while wearing bandages over his eye) while the one everyone talks about is the other eye, which needs to at least look at that target's eye if not make eye contact, with stronger effects but ridiculous cooldown time. I think this is the case regardless of whether the stronger one is also AoE.

  • @KEYEZ410
    @KEYEZ410 Před 2 lety +4

    Sakumo vs fugaku would’ve been a great fight to see.

    • @lamontxx
      @lamontxx Před 2 lety +1

      Sakumo washes fugaku

  • @Sage_ping
    @Sage_ping Před 2 lety +2

    its a request from my side so the character hagoromo is pretty overpowered but is too underrated so a video explaining him and his power level among other otsustsuki would be cool

  • @macmcgirt
    @macmcgirt Před 2 lety

    my two favorites in shippuden. you've got my subscription mr. kage

  • @thepeepeepoopooman5612
    @thepeepeepoopooman5612 Před 2 lety +27

    In the novel it's actually stated Shisui needs to see the targets eye to use kotoamatsukami. He has to send chakra into their eyes.
    So even with kotoamatsukami he needs to see the target, pinpoint their eyes and hit them with chakra.

    • @ioriyagami347
      @ioriyagami347 Před 2 lety +2

      They say that about actual genjutsu too but itachi puts you into a genjutsu by just looking at anything on his body

    • @MGrey-qb5xz
      @MGrey-qb5xz Před 2 lety

      i call sexual assault

    • @DarkZ0l
      @DarkZ0l Před 2 lety

      Novel's are not really the best thing to compare to the actual series.

    • @thepeepeepoopooman5612
      @thepeepeepoopooman5612 Před 2 lety +8

      @@DarkZ0l they literally are a part of the series, you do realize that right?
      For example, purple lightning was developed by kakashi in the novels in 2014-2015. The manga and anime both acknowledged it as canon and included it years later in Boruto.

    • @jayash2957
      @jayash2957 Před 2 lety

      @@thepeepeepoopooman5612 still novels should be takin with a grain of salt
      Because its not even written by the creator
      And alot stuff in there is far fetched

  • @Piano_improvisations
    @Piano_improvisations Před 2 lety +6

    when shisui fought danzo he didn´t want to hurt him because he could have easily killed him but if he did that the situation between the uchia and the village would have escelated so hard and shisuis goal was to prevent that conflict

    • @Bigbubba3031
      @Bigbubba3031 Před rokem

      This makes no sense son. Minato would stomp him easily.

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    U wasn’t slick with dat sponsor can’t finess a finesser on bro 😭💯💯

  • @jacobbhattacharjee2820
    @jacobbhattacharjee2820 Před 2 lety +1

    Straight up battle of talents

  • @p_ttown1979
    @p_ttown1979 Před 2 lety +14

    i get that shisui is extremely strong, but im surprised how some people think he's stronger than part 1 itachi. Yes he was stronger than itachi when he died, but part 1 itachi is way different than pre-naruto time

    • @royjones0824
      @royjones0824 Před 2 lety +1

      Exactly like he doesn’t get ms until after shisui dies and at least in filler he doesn’t get Amaterasu until his fight with the 3 tails. Besides I always felt like itachi was just low balling himself like minato both says others are stronger or better then them but will turn around and prove otherwise

    • @jayash2957
      @jayash2957 Před 2 lety +3

      The itachi isnt that much stronger especially if you factor in sickness
      Shisui was a lot more stronger than itachi than you give him credit itachi was an anbu based on pure skill not age at the time being alive he was stronger
      He never used ms in there fights and I doubt he spammed his body flicker speed to the max
      Cuz it just wouldn’t be fair
      And part 1 itachi mostly relies on genejutsu not skill
      Shisui is already good at reg genejutsu and ms genejutsu

    • @javaughndouglas3641
      @javaughndouglas3641 Před 2 lety +1

      @@jayash2957 You can't really say that accurately. There's no estimate to where Anbu Itachi or Shisui lies, only that they was considered among the strongest Uchiha, but that could be interpreted as the average Uchiha not surpassing average Chunin and Jonin, and most characters we see battle in the series are the exceptional and much better than average. We don't even know where Anbu Itachi ranks among the Anbu, only that he was exceptional *for his age*.
      The time frame between the Massacre and Part I is 4-5 years and to Part II is an additional 3. Do you recall where Kakashi, Guy, Naruto, Sasuke, Sakura and so many others ended up after a few years of work?
      Even Akatsuki are implied to improve over time. Obito goes from soundly losing to Minato to getting ready to throw hands with the whole world. Kisame goes from roughly Part I 3T Kakashi level to Part II Guy requiring Gates to take him out. Do you really think Itachi didn't train in preparation for his plans and stated close to his just hitting puberty self?

    • @jayash2957
      @jayash2957 Před 2 lety

      @@javaughndouglas3641 ok but none of what you said changing anything that I said
      Your comparing shisui to part 1 characters that were getting folded by base sharingan
      Having ms alone puts him above these alot characters
      Your assumption is time = strength and thats not the case
      Preparation doesn’t equal strength
      It’s about skill set and shisuis skill puts above these characters
      In a fight tell me how itachi is gonna beat shisui other susanoo
      Which shisui arguably can use to if we being logical
      If he couldn’t beat a sasuke who barely had any knowledge of ms compared to what he knows yrs later

    • @p_ttown1979
      @p_ttown1979 Před 2 lety

      @@jayash2957 i guess my main thing to add on is a lot of times shisui is compared to other top tiers such as obito and the sannin

  • @bludhavensknight4251
    @bludhavensknight4251 Před 2 lety +12

    One thing to take into consideration also is that Edo Itachi implied that Shisui’s sharingan is capable of one shotting EMS Sasuke and that was only one of Shisui’s sharingan not dms.

    • @thelink6756
      @thelink6756 Před 2 lety +2

      Yet another thing about Shisui that we're only told. Just a claim too. Mf is featless. Uchiha are WAYYYY too overhyped.

  • @deanoor9391
    @deanoor9391 Před 2 lety

    From anime to yugioh, Swagkage is so dope

  • @fatcountry5606
    @fatcountry5606 Před 2 lety +1

    Swagkage Do you think you can do a video about Kakazu vs Sasori it's a really fun fight to think about

  • @knivesmillions2913
    @knivesmillions2913 Před 2 lety +4

    My theory about Kotoamatsukami:
    Given that Shisui is the original user of the jutsu it stands to reason that he could use it every 10 days. I came to this conclusion due to Ao knowing intimate details about the genjutsu, therefore Shisui must have used it on a number of occasions during the Third Shinobi World War, so much so that the hidden mist was able to gather Intel about it. Now as for Danzo his timeframe was much shorter (twice in one day, he was going to use on Obito after he dealt with Sasuke) due to the influence of Hashirama cells. And Itachi's crow is self explanatory.

    • @aliveandwellinisrael2507
      @aliveandwellinisrael2507 Před 2 lety

      I think there are still two versions. Danzo's was the one that took less time to use again. Perhaps the cells let him use it more frequently than the original owner, or perhaps they just let him use all those eyes as a normal person. I think the one Shisui was going to use for the village's sake would have been the one that takes ages to be used again. Another special thing about that jutsu is how Danzo could use it without it having to even look at the target, let alone make eye contact, since it was behind bandages

  • @zamarr8740
    @zamarr8740 Před 2 lety +4

    Shisui needs his own side story or something. He’s such a favorited character and there’s basically no info in him.

  • @ww7473
    @ww7473 Před 2 lety

    oh shit ur at 1 mil congrats

  • @D4rkW4ri0
    @D4rkW4ri0 Před 2 lety

    Yo what is this remix of the other promise playing in the background?
    Shit sounds good