Ranking Every 2023 Historical Drama on Costume Accuracy
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00:00:00 Introduction
00:01:14 The Ranking
00:03:15 Bingo!
00:03:26 June’s Journey (1920s New York) [AD]
00:04:31 Adipurush (700-300 BCE)
00:06:50 The Chosen (30 CE)
00:08:19 Boudica (60 CE)
00:10:09 Domina S2 (1-100 CE)
00:12:29 The Winter King (700 CE)
00:14:40 Ponniyan Selvan II (900 CE)
00:17:19 Vikings: Valhalla S2 (1001 - 1066)
00:19:41 Zbojník/The Outlaw (1278)
00:21:53 The Last Kingdom: Seven Kings Must Die (1200s)
00:24:05 Secret Romantic Guesthouse (1800s)
00:26:20 The Matchmakers (1500-1600s)
00:28:28 The Assassin (General Joseon Dynasty)
00:30:14 Our Blooming Youth (1700-1800)
00:32:26 Under the Microscope (Ming Dynasty)
00:34:51 1521 (1521)
00:38:13 Ripe Town (1572 - 1620)
00:40:01 Tündérkert/Fairy Garden (1600s)
00:42:19 My Dearest (1627, 1636-7)
00:44:32 Filles du Feu (1609)
00:46:25 The Three Musketeers I: D’Artagnan (1627)
00:48:40 The Three Musketeers II: Milady (1627)
00:49:35 Doctor Who: Wild Blue Yonder (1666)
00:51:43 1670 (1670)
00:53:06 Mayfair Witches (1861)
00:54:45 Our Flag Means Death (1717)
00:55:43 Destined With You (1700s)
00:58:14 Tom Jones (1740s)
01:00:12 Jeanne du Barry (1743)
01:02:16 The Gallows Pole (1760s)
01:04:05 The Great S3 (1760s)
01:06:09 Outlander S7 (1770s)
01:08:20 Chevalier (1770s)
01:10:25 Queen Charlotte (1761 & 1817)
01:11:34 Sanditon S3 (early 1800s)
01:13:53 Perdida (early 1800s)
01:15:21 Napoleon (1800s)
01:17:43 The Lions of Sicily (1860)
01:19:28 Shaka Ilembe (late C18th-1816)
01:22:06 The Confessions of Frannie Langton (1826)
01:26:45 Good Omens S2 (1827)
01:28:54 Dodger S2 (1830s)
01:30:12 Ehrengard (1830s)
01:31:53 The Little Mermaid (1830s)
01:34:46 Sisi & I (1830-50)
01:36:30 The Doll Factory (1850)
01:37:40 Sisi S2 (1850s)
01:38:57 Gold Diggers (1853)
01:40:48 Great Expectations (1860s)
01:43:30 The Buccaneers (1870s)
01:45:46 O Crime Do Padre Amaro (1875)
01:47:13 Unrest (1877)
01:48:30 The Gilded Age S2 (1880s)
01:50:46 The Law According to Lidia Poët (1883)
01:52:01 Bodies (1890s)
01:53:11 Miss Scarlet & the Duke S3 (1890s)
01:54:29 Loki S2 (1893)
01:55:09 The Last Voyage of the Demeter (1897)
01:55:58 The Nevers Part II (1890s)
01:59:24 Godland (1904)
02:00:28 Strange Way of Life (1890-1900)
02:03:37 Creature (late C19th)
02:06:10 The Peasants (1904)
02:09:45 Peter Pan & Wendy (1904)
02:10:44 Paris Police 1905 (1905)
02:12:35 Vienna Blood (1908)
02:14:06 Alma + Oskar (1912)
02:14:41 Kysset (1913)
02:15:13 La Promesa (1913)
02:16:42 Haunted Mansion (present day)
02:17:52 Ghosts S5 (present day)
02:18:51 Final Ranking!
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I'm on Volume 7 Chapter 45.
the bingo card is such a fun idea! and boy did mine fill up quickly! "questionable armor choices" and "hair down for no reason" popped up almost immediately!
I want to do the bingo card again, it was very fun! Had to stop halfway through the video, but I think if I just refine how I keep track of it, I'd give a full report, which I find very exciting.
WOW Bernadette you look ✨️FABULOUS✨️
Just when you thought Bernadette couldn’t be any shadier… You are amazing Bernadette, never change.
Perhaps there should be a "This is just Insulting" when the costumes actually put down the culture they are depicting like 1521.
I agree, after watching that part I thought the ranking should be "just offensive"🤦♀
I was thinking the same, Bernadette should have put it down there where her mouse was for a short while
I suspect The Welsh Viking would use that category for some of those ‘native Britons covered in mud and furs’ shows too.
I remember in previous years she had a 😬 category for any films that were just… yikes
@@esthermcafee5293 I'm waiting for the day someone, ANYONE, puts the Britons in those stunning yellow/orange/green checked fabrics we know they were weaving. Plus, where's the bling?? I need broaches and torques and belt medallions and elbow points! Can we get those beautiful, baggy then drawn in at the ankle jogger pants on our men please? And for God's sake, NO MORE WOAD BODY PAINT!!!! It's just so problematic for a laundry list of reasons but for me, all these buckets of blue body paint on British Celts is the late Iron Age equivalent of corsets without chemises.
"I haven't really seen glitter polyester in traditional Korean garmenture, but... who's to say?" killed me. This was a great video and very informative.
This moment was peak for me 😂
Yes! I replayed that moment in my brain for days afterwards😂
29:23
I just love the way Cheon-Shik is so charmingly diplomatic, and gives _very_ forgiving ratings, but still manages, without actually saying anything negative at all, to completely roast these productions' bad choices!
lol he's being too polite.
My fav character detail in Good Omens is that Crowley is always embracing the new and flashy while Aziraphale is usually lagging behind. Such a wonderful way to illustrate their differences
Neh
Do I sound like a goat?@@mattybrunolucaszeneresalas9072
i heard her talking about a corset now i wanna see him in that corset
I love that you didn't just cover English-speaking media, and that you brought in people who specialise in the given places and/or time periods. Fantastic video!
I don't it was boring!
@@rockyhrndzthen leave 🤸🏽♂️
@@rockyhrndzOf course you did...
I found the different fashions fascinating, and was very pleased to see a variety represented. And as much as I admire Bernadette (😊), I was happy to see experts from the specific cultures included. I don’t think I realized when I started watching that this was a two hour program, L O L, but I stuck it out and found it very interesting.😄
That Chinese critic went the extra mile with the graphics and I noticed and appreciated
She was absolutely amazing! It would have been great for most of the commentary but it was great mainly because I think that the majority of Bernadette's followers are not familiar with chinese (and generally non-western) traditional clothing and styling
I love this seris but I'm also dying for some great visual aid. (Like I want to see the actual material they are talking about and just see how bad/good the designers respected the source material.)
@@Basilissa_Sunight I think the majority of Bernadette followers are familiar with any traditional clothing and styling
I really like her presentation style, too. She starts out with the positives, and presents it in this straight forward way that just clicks with my brain
chinese people are extremely obsessed with historical drama (in a good way), almost half of all chinese drama today are historical, it is obvious that they would pay more attention to the details
learning that we could have gotten crowley in a corset and didnt is actually heartbreaking
I'm not sure we'd have been able to tell under his coat
Yeah, we would have, it would have changed the silouette.
I don’t even watch GO and I call that a travesty of a missed opportunity
Well, now I have to go and write some fanfiction. You know, Crowley coming from his tailor with the new corsetted look and showing of to Aziraphale...
@@barbarabenoit3667 please do share whenever you do 👀
One small note about Peter and Wendy, I don't think Hook is supposed to be from the "modern" 1900's time. I think time in neverland works different and Hook is actually from the late 1700's so his coat and powdered wig are current for HIM but totally out of time for everything else. Afterall, his ship is completely from the wrong century as well.
EDIT: I think you need a category above "gets the job done" and below peak. Something like "Missed it by a Chemise". Because a lot of these are better than just getting it done. And also a category for "Insulting our intelligence" for shows that play into wrong stereotypes, or outright insult cultural heritage for things like Vikings with horned helmets, leather armor, "barbarians" with dirty faces, etc.
My exact thought about Hook... I have never actually read the book but I think that in our vision, Hook will always be XVIII century (possibly an XVIII century Dustin Offman)
Right, cause people in Neverland got there all in (from?) different time periods and time works very differently there. Both Hook and his crew and the native american tribe are from much older periods than Wendy.
I love the idea of the “Missed by a Chemise” category!! Especially because it seems to be a recurring issue in many of the films and shows, even the best ones, and the title is both funny and accurate at the same time.
And I definitely agree that there should be another category for all those shows that not just didn’t try but, even worse, relied on tropes, cliches and false stereotypes. Those are an insult to the intelligence and plant the wrong seeds in people’s minds.
As someone that’s read the book and watched several different versions of Peter Pan adaptations… Neverland exists in a TIME BUBBLE.
I’m disappointed in Bernadette for this one.
I agree that we need an "Insulting" category, because there's a big difference between merely _failing_ at historical accuracy and actively _slandering and misrepesenting_ an entire ethnicity/culture/time period. The latter is a much worse crime than the former.
I think Bernadette needs to resurrect the “blasphemous hair and makeup” category. Modern hair and makeup always takes me right out of a period piece. And maybe add a special dishonorable mention category for blatant cultural misrepresentations.
Seriously, this is a wonderful video, congratulations to all the experts who participated.
I was kinda hoping to see Harry Lloyd’s fantasy-vision Richard III from the Lost King, which was very generic medieval and clearly in modern fabrics. Maybe that was outside the scope of this review, but it would have been fun to see Bernadette’s reaction to this costume.
I feel like GOT has had an outsized influence on anything historical and/or fantasy: they all have to be filmed with those ridiculous blue-gray filters, as if the sun never shone in the Middle Ages. And all the metallic studded leather on peasants makes me ROTFL, wondering where they got the money for such a garment, or when they had the time and tools necessary to make it themselves.
Hair and makeup = one hundred percent lol glad I'm not the only one. This brings up an interesting point in that maybe these categories should be less of a gradient and more of a collection of boxes they tick or miss.
Honestly I think the problem is that most of the stories set in the Middle Ages are dark and violent so they go crazy with the dark colors and blue filters lest anyone get confused and think they stumbled into the wrong genre. It started long before GOT came along, although it’s only gotten worse with time. Bright colors are reserved for lighthearted fantasies, comic romps, and occasionally romantic dramas and you don’t get too many of those set in Medieval Europe and the few that have been made are anachronistic in other ways so I guess it’s a lose-lose scenario. (Still waiting for some studio to realize the untapped potential of an absolutely straight-faced medieval slice of life drama. At this point they’ve done everything else so why not?)
I agree!!!
Second the hair and makeup! Some could be excused if it still gives ~the vibes~ like I feel Sanditon or Bridgerton do, but with some it ruins absolutely every costume, every scene and every character like I feel the Biccaneers did.
I have seen Bernadette mourn the lack of chemises under corsets so many times that the other day I literally exulted when I saw someone wear a corset properly in a manwha🤣
do they not usually wear them properly in manwhas? 😨
@winter_falls903 If you go on the otome isekai subreddit, so many rib removed corset tightening scenes without the chemise can be found on someone's pic collection vent. This is not including the time travel vs transmigration costume where all the 3d assets are from different eras that we make a game on which specific background character has been spotted (shout out to Castle-nim)
@@winter_falls903I mean they aren't even wearing them properly in western media, why would it be different in korean media?
Tbh, I wouldn't mind a ranking like this for historical manwhas, there's soooooo many now haha
@@MusicFreakthe4th omg! that's such a fun idea! soo many of them got them wrong. which listen, i get it. it's a rofan, so do what you will??? but i wished they did some research on historical garments and try to stay within 1 to 2 silhouettes to make it feels ✨vaguely historical but fantasy✨and cohesive. a lot of times they just look like a cocktail/party dress straight from wish, shein or some cheap historical halloween costumes💀
there's a couple series that came to mind that has great costuming. the artists for these series still took a lot of artistic liberties but i LOVE that they stick with 1-2 silhouettes. series like stepmother fantasy, the villainess flips the script and secret lady has such great costuming! you can tell they did some research and stuck with a time period for an inspiration. gosh, absolutely love the outfits for the characters by the artists!
1:16:47
“Every time someone calls me Napoleon, the nation of the French gets *a little bit* meaner.”
😂
That bit was so funny, with the straight-faced, matter of fact way he said that. Plus Bernadette absolutely dying on the floor while holding up the mic lmao
One of the best moments of this video, FOR SURE!! lol
T'was peak, indeed! 😂
I loved that the critic from the Philippines cited references and pulled up a page from one of the books she was citing :)
Right! Which makes the fail even more bad for the movie makers. They did not even try!
sadly for Philippine cinema their highest priority is what would make the actor or actress look good and all other factors be damned 😅
@@mariconllavanes8234 don't be so harsh. Making movies outside of hollywood can be very hard, and a box office success becomes even more important. In these cases lot of times they will use actors beauty and popularity to atract public, and garments go in second place
hi! filipino here just putting my 2 cents. honestly the scenario you're suggesting can be highly likely but what the original commenter means is specifically that toxic beauty standard of filipino media.
and while youre idea might be said from a good place, the specific example of 1521 wouldn't be where i would talk about it because while the idea of using beauty as a way to maximize the success of the film/country is great, it definitely shouldnt be while sacrificing dignity and showing filipinos ancestors as backwards and "savage" natives
not suggesting that you were okay with that idea! just saying that it might be a little tone deaf to say that in this specific scenario ❤
Here in Germany we have a historian who has a youtube channel - Geschichtsfenster - who calls the special filter, that takes away the colours: "The medieval-filter". He calls this out as a problem in a lot of so called "documentaries" about the middle ages. I guess it is something film makers use, when they want to show that the past was worse than today. Well, they are wrong - in respect to colour and clothes. The past was different.
Next they'll put everything in black and white, and for those not so old old-flims in sepia... :)
😂@@emmataylor9024
It's like the Mexico filter but with the past 😂
Oh the Medieval filter...
I've come to think this: "If you think people will only take your movie seriously if there's a dark filter over it, there might be some bigger problem in your production..."
Like seriously, I just hate that.
I love that Bernadette is just crouched on the ground the entirety of Zacks interview trying not to laugh
I had to go back and rewatch just for that moment 😂
Tis was peak!
Me too!!
1:16:45 for those who need a timestamp 😊
I actually made a costume for The Chosen episode with the crowd of 5000! They sent out a pdf with costuming guidelines for each ethnic group and let extras decide which they wanted to represent. I know for a fact the costume I made was not historically accurate, but she was an extra 😂 it got the job done.
isn't also a lot of the budget for The Chosen coming from crowdfunding/ donations so budget isn't to the level of most larger-studio productions?
@@rachelh1720 absolutely. It's been completely crowd funded to my knowledge. Not going to have the same budget. I do wish they tried a bit harder on the Romans gear. They definitely look cartoony
I was in that crowd as well! Definitely showed a smiiiidge too much ankle 😂 but considering most of the scenes I was in were the ones where we were sitting, I think it was fine. Could only make me out in the crowd for half a second at best. But was such a wonderful opportunity to be a part of 🙌🏼
Correct. @@rachelh1720
I almost feel like there should be a separate tier for when substantially more effort and research was clearly put in for the costumes for either the men or the women and the other gender got done dirty
At least a bingo square
What a wonderful video! A special shout-out to Song Ruohan for adding little illustrations of what a historically accurate costume would look like--they were such beautiful renderings that added so much to her perspective. Thank you all for your hard work!
I just want to comment that a show, like Good Omens 2, actually choosing, okay, we’re only going to have four costumes, but we’re going to do them RIGHT, is actually pretty cool. Because, as was stated, some shows/movies have tight schedules and budgets, so they can’t do every costume perfectly. Maybe if they had infinite resources, it would be better, but they don’t. So GO2 specifically chose, we’re not going to clothe 30 people in approximately period clothing. We’ll do 4 characters well. And I really appreciate that. 🐍
I think this is both a very good idea and something that more shows should try to do on occasion. If you can't afford to clothe your extras sufficiently, try to avoid crowd scenes (unless it's a massive punchline - I'm looking at you, Monty Python and the Holy Grail).
Bernadette didn't mention it, but something I noticed and appreciated in this scene in GO2 is that Wee Morag's clothing 1. mostly doesn't fit her and 2. is very clearly pulled from both men's and women's clothing. She's homeless and this entire segment is about inequality and hardship, and it makes A LOT of sense that her outer garments would be things that "fell off the back of the truck," so to speak. Is she period-appropriate? Absolutely not. Is that because the items she's wearing are all individually appropriate but she's had to make do with what she can put together? YES, and I think that's just one more reason it deserves Tis Peak.
I feel so sorry for Jimmy🙈 Also, as a fellow archaeologist dealing very occassionally with Celts, can we please stop it with the fur and face painting/tatoo nonsense? Like, we have done research on these cultures. Extensively so. For a good century at this point. You don´t need to guess at how these people were dressing, while exculsively using clichees going directly back to Tacitus filtered through 19th century ideas (and Tacitus wasn´t even writing about Celts!).
I want a movie/show about pre-Roman/late Iron Age Britain with lots of good solid wool orange/yellow/green checked fabrics, brooches and torques and buckles and maybe at least one guy with those cool elbow covers? I also don't understand why they seem to go for early medieval hose-type pants for the men when the silhouette of late Iron Age trousers is so iconic. I want NO ONE with a drop of "woad paint" on their bodies. I want mustaches!! It's such a lost opportunity: it's fabrics and jewelry and silhouette and layering and construction and hair that's SO of its time and place, so instantaneously, "can't be anywhere or any time else" recognizable. Like, the fabric patterns alone you could play with should make period accuracy a costume designers' dream, but we got to do this "cave man dipped in a can of Sherwin Williams" crap.
@@danaglabeman6919 at this point, Asterix and obelix did better job lol
And Jimmy really does try to keep things positive on his channel, too. Poor guy, I just love him. ♥
@@emagalociova At least Obelix's belt and pants are more accurate than the whole animal hides over medieval hose/leg rags thing.
I wonder how accurate the costumes from Hellblade: Senua's Saga are? The main character is a Pict woman....
Captain Hook’s coat is supposed to look 200 years old because the character is from the Golden Age of Piracy (1650-1730), but he lives in Neverland where everything doesn’t age. His crew has been picked up from here and there over the centuries to replace crewmen who have died in battle. It has been several decades since I read the book, but almost every interpretation I’ve seen of Hook dresses him from the GAoP. It’s accurate to the story. [Insert image of a garishly dressed Dustin Hoffman from Hook (1991) here.]
Every year when you do this, it gets longer, and we all get happier. I also love hearing from so many incredible cultural experts!
The best part about the annual review, it's listening to all the experts from other countries, the Korean gentleman, is himself, "tis peak". I love him.
One of my favorite guests!!
34:51, my friend Minxie!! She spoke facts regarding how awful 1521 depicted pre colonial Visayan fashion. We didn’t wear rags! So disappointed honestly. There was barely any gold jewellery, no fabrics to showcase weavings and brocades to showcase our rich textile weavings and trade and diplomacy with the rest of Asia. And they also mishmashed cultures in that movie 💀
Honestly watching that part the movie looked like one of the cheep, crappy 60s “cultural” films. Especially when it would cut back to your friend. She’s clearly dressed absolutely beautifully and the craftsmanship of the textiles and hat are amazing.
I’m not even familiar with Visayan culture and on a glance I can tell that movie didn’t represent anything but cheap costumes. On the other hand, I’m now adding it to my list to learn about.
Can I just say how incredibly excited I am to see Zbojník (The Outlaw) here? I do think it deserved 'tis peak, especially considering it's a crowdfunded, very low budget, indie, student production that did way better job than most big productions. I do have a bone to pick with the lovely reviewer though, because if you simply look up the name of the king who's wearing the giant feather helmet, one of the first pictures to pop up will be an illustration from a medieval manuscript of him wearing something similar. Also I'm fairly certain that the colors of the clothing are achievable with natural dyes, based solely upon following reenactors who use natural dyes for their costumes.
I don't think the reviewer did a good job. The 1670 review was also disappointing.
Fun fact about The Outlaw (Zbojník) The guy with the fether on his helmet is right, he is the czech king Přemysl Otakar II. And there are some pictures of him whith this helmet. The film makers didn't just bought random fethers And colored them, they bought real eagle fethers like it was on the real helmet.
I was actually on the set of Fairy Garden (Tündérkert) and you do NOT know the amount of terrifying details I have seen. Especially with the corset scene, it had to be recorded in very quick shots, as most of it was produced in winter, and in the underground tunnels with zero heating. Most of the costumes were actually rented iirc from theatres in Budapest, and few of the actresses actually knew how to wear a corset. I got a cold standing there a few hours, so I cannot imagine what the actors had to endure. 😕
Oh my gosh that sounds horrible! Thanks for sharing and I’m glad you survived 😮
I think the costumers for The Outlander have learned that they would get roasted by Bernadette if they didn't get their game on.
Hey Bernadette, I would really love if you would do a segment on historical dress for people with disabilities. As you know, there’s a whole industry of adaptations of modern style for people who are in a wheelchair or people who are missing limbs, or have some other sort of disability where getting dressed is difficult. I was wondering if there’s any historical evidence about these type of adaptations to fashion and dress? Thank you.
I wonder if there is evidence... they said that regular peoples clothes would be worn out so perhaps they just got worn so much there isn't as much. Definitely something to think about
Since until the industrial revolution clothes were always made uniquely for their wearer, whether or not extant examples survive I'm sure they existed!
maybe interesting to you: "Der Faullenzer" corset. Laces interestingly through the back and would be much more accessible. Gives an example of alternative lacing options that might be available.
Fun fact: the Ehrengard film's costume designer is actually the very recently abdicated Queen of Denmark Margrethe II...
34:55 the Filipino one is really sad, no-one really has big preconception about what they wore, and the costume Minixie has on is so beautiful. is a big missed opportunity to introduce something new (old) to people who've never seen it before.
I *loved* Ruohan Song's drawings to show what was accurate! Would love to see more. :)
I came here to say this! Totally agree with you
me too! loved them!
Yeah they really went above and beyond to help us understand what things should look like, which gives me so much more to work with than verbal descriptions
Yes, that was really interesting and helpful!
I want a full-length video of them video-chatting and Ruohan just drawing overtop of historically inaccurate period romance novel covers like Bernadette usually does. And it just occasionally cuts back to Bernadette taking notes.
I don't know if someone has explained this already, but in Spain we have daily afternoon shows, quiet like telenovelas, and that's why La Promesa has 4503749824094840238404375309 episodes already. The first episode aired the 12th of January, 2023.
I'm not sure the budget goes to the costume department, though 🙃🙃🙃
Next year she can discuss La Moderna and get shocked at its 180 episodes too! I agree in that La Promesa's budget is not going to the costume or hair and makeup department but to the drama and Cruz's evil ways.
This is why my husband loves Spanish television. There are so many series on Netflix and he loves it because he can start a show and never run out of episodes. There was one crime drama that he would keep me updated on every night 😂 Imagine an Indian guy in his 50s binging Spanish drama in bed. It’s perfection. ❤
I love that Cheon-Shik Yang came with props to hold up to the camera and everything
Can we just take a moment to appreciate how perfectly stunning Ms. Banner looks?
She's absolutely stunning! And the hair? Perfect.
This peak, my lord
Come now, we can’t do that in every single video she ever made, it’d become redundant.
The hairdo is gorgeous, the blouse and jacket are exquisite, and I would love to buy her camafeo.
I also liked how most of the other reviewers were also wearing historically accurate garments for their regions and preferred time periods.
Amen!
The joy that is Zack's entrance... now THAT "tis peak, my lord" indeed ❤
who's Zack?
@@gfhit7520Napoleon 😊
@@gfhit7520He’s the man wearing the gorgeous British Admiral’s uniform (NOT dressed as Napoleon!) talking about the movie Napoleon. IRL he wears the wonderful men’s clothing of the period, all of which he makes himself. He doesn’t have a lot of videos on CZcams, but it is worth looking for them.
1:15:20
@@auntielaura5 lol I totally forgot that Pinsent is called Zack 😆
Every time I watch these I am especially enamoured with Cheon Shik Yang. It's just his style and the way he is talking. Love it!
In the Outlander books Clare has that coat specially made with hundreds of pockets to be able to take a lot of stuff back with her, so I think the coat was a nod for those of us who read the book. I was excited to see it 😅
I felt like not inviting Karolina to comment on Polish historic costumes was a missed opportunity
Exactly! I'm very interested in what she has to say about that.
She does seem more interested in the western-lead fashion rather than the traditional strój ludowy though, in addition she might not have deeper knowledge on the part of Poland the story took place in and its traditions in clothing, the woman that spoke on the other hand seemed familiar with that region.
@@annakrpatova3429 the first person that commented the 16xx show seemed not very well-versed with Polish history. I'm just judging from their use of the terms. The second expert was excellent.
And also the first reviewer commented on Czech and Hungarian history, so I doubt that they have that deep of a regional knowledge as a Polish person would have.
@@anastasiiazdorikova that's true! I commented with the second Polish film in mind 😅
@@annakrpatova3429 oh I enjoyed the commentary of the second reviewer profoundly, especially the art pieces that were the inspiration
So proud of Good Omens for its success in actual historically accurate costumes lol do need Crowley in a corset though, come on. Anyway, lovely video, have a great day y’all!
Hahaha, yes! Now we need DT prancing around like the 19th century fashionista he is, screaming 'ENOUGH DIEING, NO MORE dieing' on some graveyard in Edinburgh to a worried aziraphale
same here! since series 3 is confirmed, it's absolutely possible. and you know David Tennent is up for anything.
anyway, it's even more impressive if shows actually get it right if just one episode or flashback is set in olden times. same goes for Mayfair Witches and Loki, they didn't have to go so far, but they did!
Can you please look at Babylon Berlin? Set during the Weimar Republic and I think the costumes are pretty good!
@@vanessaheine8093 I think Bernadette only focuses on pre-WWI dress which is why Weimar republic wouldn't be in this video
ps there is an awesome interview out there with the costume department or the designer of GO, where they speak of the super detailed intricacies of everyone's garments. Loved that!
Big thank you to all the experts who participated in this! I learned so much about periods and cultures I know nothing about, and it was fun to "meet" everybody as well as seeing some familiar faces.
A little fun fact about Our Flag Means Death: Blackbeard's costume is almost exactly Mad Max's costume. I love the self conscious anachronisms, which are part of the whole show spirit, but I think the quality of the garments could be better anyways. I think they improved in season 2.
I swear that half of the show's budget just went towards Taika Waititi's wigs, and honestly fair. Best wigs on a recent American TV show bar none
I feel like 1670 was not given proper credit. The costumes in this show are both 'Tis Peak' and 'Design Choice'. They are made from materials and in techniques available in Poland in 17th century, and playfully reworked to accentuate the differences in the social standing and cultural influences of each character. The one aristocrat in the show (wearing those ridiculous yellow clothes) is adorned in '17th century Louis Vuitton', down to fabric made specially for this show showing the aristocrat's initials. The merchant family wears outlandish (literally) Western European garments (with a palm print, because he's 'mister worldwide'), while the main character is 'classic Polish Sarmatian'. The kontusz sash plays a major role in an episode about dueling, the leopard print is a nod to Turkish influences, the peasant clothing is practical and also showcasing the variety of cultures (Polish vs Lithuanian vs Jewish). The main character's daughter, a Polish noble woman, is running around in peasant-like clothes and trousers, because she's the one talking about equality, feminism, minority representation etc. This show's costume designer put A LOT of thought into all of this, and everything that's not historically accurate, is a design choice to express the personalities of characters. They made about 700 costumes for this show, using up to 20 meters of fabric for one nobleman's suit. Designed and produced fabrics, had them sewn into garments by costume designer from the best Polish theatre.
TL;DR, the costumes in the show are awesome, hilarious, and any exemptions from historical accuracy are there as a very conscious design choice. It's a comedy show.
That show was so funny! I hope there are more seasons, and I loved the costumes.
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Great comment, I'm not sure if the reviewer was really qualified
This comment should be pinned. I also had the impression that the guest just glossed over the whole thing cause they either didnt see the show so didnt know much about it or just didnt know much about the period clothing. As a Polish person i was very excited seeing 1670 and Chłopi in the video lineup and well... i was a bit sad.
@@anhu154 She kept confusing szlachta - nobility with royals, so I would say no.
This is what your hair would look like if your husband kept you in a tie for six or seven years and you escaped. PURE GOLD! Love this guy.
@paulamflynn - It was actually "in a tower" - much funnier!
Huge props to Dani for the massive amount of editing!
Marcus describing 1830s dandies with “child-bearing hips” 😂
1:15:19 - Napoleon - My brother (a militaria historian) was so frustrated by the endless stream of anachronisms and complete factual inaccuracies, that he was furious that the movie had even been made.
He noticed every use of inaccurate medals, weaponry, uniforms, and said it was as if the filmmakers hadn't even tried to be accurate.
The same can be said for The Three Musketeers. The musketeers are supposed to be these elite sword-men with very fine, elegant clothing - which are not only mentioned in historical sources but in the book itself (with a little shoutout to Athos, always dressed to the nines). Instead, in the movies, they look like Hollywood … pirates ? using both napoleonic and medieval weaponry (which constitute quite a time travel). ^ ^"
I also heard from people that it was super boring : L i'm sad that the film is a bit of a flop, seemed like it had such potential
I told my friends that the movie felt like a 9 billion dollar Powerpoint and I stand by that...
@@inMuro it was so disappointing considering how many movies already exist on the same subject, and such a waste of an incredible cast 😣
@@sophiethepegasus what made it feel like that? I'm curious, haven't seen it
Fascinating, as always! Thanks for all the work you and everyone put into this movie-length extravaganza.
Ngl, I never thought about it, but it makes a lot of sense you would be into Bernadettes videos! Glad to know you are! Love your videos, Hope you have a happy new year!
Vợ Cuối Cùng (2023) is a Vietnamese period film, set in the mid/later 1800s (Nguyễn Dynasty) that had beautiful costuming and aesthetics. It got a lot of praise for its design-though perhaps because films of that period are far and few between, I personally wouldn’t deem it revolutionary, but still, incredibly stunning. There was def an emphasis on mixing various decades of style and class to show the variety of clothing in that period lol
I was enchanted nonetheless by it. If there are any Vietnamese fashion historians out here in the Bernadette-verse, I’d love to hear your take on it!!! (๑˃̵ᴗ˂̵)
53:02 As a Polish person I must say that even if it's not 100% acurrate in terms of clothing IT'S SUCH A GOOD SERIES! The satirical context is so relateble to our modern times in Poland and so easly readible. I am very intrested in my country's history, so I am really glad that they made this series because it shows the way that our gentry ( mostly noble land owners) and their business led to self-destruction of our country which ultimately led to the partitions of Poland, yet it's shown in such easily digestible format that even non-history lovers can understand it.
2:07:34 AND THE PEASANTS OH MY GOD! THIS WAS SUCH A GOOD MOVIE! I've just came back from the cinema where I watched it! IT WAS AMAZING and I really I recommend watching it, if only to experience how amazing the film itself looks 😍
as a Polish person I must say this is a very mid series
You could argue that Captain Hook is genuinely 200 years old, having been trapped in the Neverland Never-Aging magic since he arrived. Then, I haven't seen the show, so the #lore might directly tell me I'm wrong
Yes! About Captain Hook -- The book says "in dress he somewhat aped the attire associated with the name of Charles II, having heard it in some earlier period of his career that he bore a strange resemblance to the ill-fated Stuarts." So does his jacket intentionally resemble that era? Please enlighten us further, Ms. Banner!
@@allisonavery735 oh, so that's deliberate historical inaccuracy as chosen by Barrie. Book accuracy!
This sparks so much joy every year 🎉 The double joy of participating AND seeing all the other roundups is just. Well, we can say, tis peak ☺️
Let’s make 2024 the year of shirtless men in historical Indian media! XD
They can give their shirts to all the English girlies suffering from third degree corset chafing 🫠
@@bernadettebanner YES! That one red corset, with straight boning... My bosom doth cringe! My shoulders nearly touched when I saw that. *shudder*
and topless Korean women for the guys ?
I loved seeing you back! When you describe period accurate dress, I always listen with a smile on my face!
I am glad that someone is pointing out the need for consistency. When costumes and hair are from two different eras it always throws me out of the story.
Fun fact about Ehrengard: The queen of Denmark actually did the costume design.
I am so happy Good Omens landed in the Tis Peak Category, because I enjoyed the whole season, and that episode in particular, very much! :D
Blackbeard’s outfit in Ofmd is literally a costume from Mad Max Road Warrior, they don’t give two shits about historical accuracy and I love that for them lol
I get really offended by inaccurate costumes when they seem to try a little (but not really) but for this sort of thing, they're just having fun, good for them.
And there's so many little details that are historically accurate, you can tell someone did their research but they decided to just have fun
@@Groganee Yeah, I love that!
I'm honestly just so sad that it was cancelled 🥺
Yes hahahaha
Adding once the video has finished: why put so much effort into costuming? And making it at least “gets the job done”? Because it wraps you up in the story so much more and doesn’t yank you out of it by seeing something so wrong that it creates a distraction to all the other incredible work done by the director, actors, etc. Costuming is an art. Let’s give it the proper attention it deserves!
And for the love of all that is holy, GIVE YOUR ACTORS A DAMN CHEMISE.
I bet women of the chemise years would be horrified by our wearing bras right on bare skin. Heck, I'm horrified by it.
Nothing better than a more structured, padded bra with frills being chucked in the washer, and then - the dryer 😆
I really love the black and white dress at 2:12:49 because it’s a exact recreation of the dress worn by Emilie Flöge who was a fashion designer, businesswoman, and muse for the painter Gustav Klimt. Both of which were working in Vienna in this time 😎
The corset discussion made me think about how much I would love to see Good Omens get creative with gender expression, even in historical depictions. They have a great opportunity here, able to show any period in time with two canonically nonbinary characters that have drastically different tastes in fashion. They could have SO much fun with their outfits. I mean, they obviously already are, given their wide array of historical looks (glares at bildad the shuhite) but I'd love to see some gender androgyny going on there too. The only ones we have so far are Crowley being fem during the crucifixion and while raising Warlock in season one
Something i am always missing in historic german, swiss or austrian movies: Folk wear. They had so much folk wear for common people in victorian times, especially rural people wore more folk leaning clothes to show their region. Always playing in the few big cities. But its also very difficult for germans to get a lot of informations on regional wear outside of bavaria so whatever.
And that folk wear is just so interesting!
This is so true for large parts of continental Europe and Scandinavia; where I live, people still wore it as their daily clothes up until 30 years ago(!), and it only died out as regular wear when that generation passed away.
I always wonder if they're not using folk wear because it can be so regionally specific, that it'd present a whole different headache for costumers? Or perhaps it's a kind of snobbery, in that they're not even depicting the people who'd wear it? IDK, it would be interesting to ask film and TV makers why.
I got a beautiful book about different folk clothing throughout Germany while researching my mom’s maternal family. They’re from East Frisia and my nana didn’t even know why her dad had tea every day. Because even in the Midwest German communities he didn’t fit in. He married a woman from another family from the same towns in East Frisia and stopped speaking Low Saxon. I’d love to see more about the individual cultures throughout the regions. They’re so unique.
Every folk wear I've seen look so pretty and lovely with such variety you can really play with it as a story telling tool
@@basementdwellercosplayCareful with the variety. In most regions, these dresses were very extremely uniform...for one specific village.
The SHADE of "I haven't seen sheer glittery polyester in traditional Korean garments..."
It‘s so crazy to me how much corset in skin there still is, this is literally the first thing i learned on historical fashion youtube and i don‘t even work on a period film
I love how you and a lot of the guests wore clothes more representative of the areas each of y'all work in :3
RE Vienna Blood: The black and white dress the fashionable character is wearing is based on a real dress designed and worn by Emilie Floge, a couturiere who was the partner of Gustav Klimt. You can see several photos of her wearing the dress on her Wikipedia page. Now, those photos are clearly in a private, relaxed setting, but she was known for designing dresses in the reformed style and in keeping with the Wiener Werkstatte aesthetic. There’s plenty to knock in Vienna Blood, but that dress is spot on (the styling with the jewels however is probably confusing it too much with the portrait of Adele Bloch-Bauer).
Thank you for commenting! I did think she looked like a Klimt portrait :)
She does this every year? I’m going to go back and watch them all!
Yes she does! I think she began in December 2020.
Have fun! These are the only end of year videos I watch. ❤
Make yourself a LOT of popcorn and drink! IT's a mini serie in itself.
Enjoy!
The videos for the other years are not as long as this one.
Has Bernadette done a "Ranking Historic Costume Patterns" video? The patterns you buy from shops, Simplicity, McCall's etc?
If not I think it would be a fun watch.. (I'm just trying out the McCall's Patterns MC7003MEN)
That's a cool idea! There seems to be a pretty wide range of quality, and it's often interesting seeing how sometimes the designs themselves are pretty good but then the pattern cover pictures are styled very PartyCity or modern reinterpretation...?
Clara’s dress in Vienna Blood is a recreation of an Emilie Louise Flöge who designed avant-garde gowns immortalized in Gustav Klimt paintings, but also had her own shop!!
A czech person here, if I can add about the feather helmet from The Outlaw that was mentioned at 20:20 was a reconstruction of a tournament helmet I believe. Worn by czech king Přemysl Otakar II., pictured in a 13th century fresco at Gozzoburg castle. Honestly wouldn't have thought it was anything accurate but the production has posted info about that helmet specifically. 🤣
*I LOVE THE FACT* you are covering movies and TV from all over the world...!!!
Its so nice to find someone who does not regard the entire global media insustry as being based in Los Angeles
Jimmy war merciless and i am here for it "the throws ou decorate your beige house with so it sells more easily" was a level of burn i have to appreciate
The fact that I watched this entire video without skipping or jumping around straight through is testament to the quality. Thank you so much for all the work you put into this Bernadette!
As an archaeologist specializing in the early Middle Ages i cry my eyes out for the misunderstanding about this era. There so much cool stuff to it. Like… most Thor pendants were worn by women!
Why does it matter who wore the pendants and how does that it cool?? Is it really earth-shattering to learn that women wear jewelry?
@@user-kc9di4xs9l I suspect diekje finds this note worthy because we in the 21st century associate Thor with war, violence and strength. And those characteristics, with men.
@@philipgwyn8091 Thor's hammer is literally the symbol of proection and good fortune, he is not a war god he is the protector of men. These types of gods have always been popular with women. Again, this is absolutely no surprise, and that's just a factoid I know as a layperson.
It is really a cool period in time and I really wish moviemakers would focus more on real events during that time and also the dynamics that were common socially.
There should be a tier called “Thats offensive”
And I’ll put “The Great” on the first place. I was so sad to watch that this terrible and mostly historical inaccurate show has got so many high ranks!
I was alerted that this video was out because Good Omens fandom was passing around the excerpt of your ranking, haha. I'm very pleased that it earned one of the few Tis Peak ratings! A little surprised you didn't cover the 1941 section too but I suppose that's a repeat of Good Omens S1.
Anyway I'm always pleased to see these, I'm sure they're a ton of work to put together but I enjoy watching them. I don't know much at all about fashion so I'm glad to get the perspective of people who know their stuff. :D
I actually think Hook wearing really old garments makes sense. In this version of Peter Pan, nobody ages in Neverland. Hook was a lost boy who wanted to grow up and then returned. Him wearing 200 year old garments shows how long he has been stuck there as an adult.
okay so I'm Polish and I've watched 1670 and I wanna say something, the part of dress the main guy is lacking and you're pointing out is not the kontusz itself, it's the kontusz belt. And the rich, well-dressed guys are at best noblemen, not royalty. They're landowners
I do wish the experts were vetted better. I don't know much about Polish historical dress, but I do know you are right on them not being royals. They're landowners, and characters like Maciej are their serfs.
exactly! they’re szlachta/ sarmaci not royalty lol, they come from the knighthood social class which in the polish feudal period had the right to own land
I got the impression that they don't all watch the full movies but looked at photos, which may not be fair as you point out
I regret that the female costumes were completely ignored.... As if I know what the creator had in mind when creating the costume of Jan Paweł and other male characters and peasants.
Zofia's outfits are a completely different matter and I still don't and I know what I think of them
I think the costumes also ended up in the wrong category. The patterns, the traveling troupe costumes, the way Hendryk looked so cartoonishly, Aniela wearing pants and much more SHOWS that it was all a design choice. I was all intentional. I have no idea why the expert (I have no idea what their specialisation is since they reviewed czech, hungarian and polish fashion from complety different periods) choose "they tried" as the category.
I wanted to add a bit more information about the creative process and inspirations behind the costumes in the '1670' TV series because I do not agree with the rating, I think it deserves a bit of praise.
The costume expert hired for that project was Katarzyna Lewińska, who was also responsible for the costumes in the movie 'Peasants', supported by Piotr Truszkiewicz, the sewer from the Wielki Theatre in Warsaw. She and her team didn't have many sources to rely on, so they took the inspiration mostly from the paintings from the Baroque period for the gentry, and from the 16th century for the peasants. She tried to remain faithful to the period but with some creative twists, which would add to the storytelling (e.g. Aniela wearing pants). The costumes are purposefully over-the-top, some even inspired by modern fashion trends. Such as Zofia and her Wednesday look.
What's more, 99% of the costumes were created just for this TV series, many of them handmade, including the fabrics (from which 90% are made of natural fibres). For example, Zofia's dresses were made by hand, using time-appropriate techniques to achieve the proper silhouettes. They even went as far as making sure that her collar was an actual bobbin lace.
I'm no expert, nor do I have enough knowledge to verify what's time-appropriate and what's not. But from what I've gathered during my research is that they did put so much work into the costumes and the research, going as far as using the old techniques to get the most accurate results. So summing it up with just one sentence, with complete disregard for all the amazing pieces is just disappointing.
this comment should get pinned!
Oh no no no you get it all mixed up about The Lions of Sicily.
It is not set in 1860s Italy, maybe only the very last episode reaches the 1860s but none before that.
Episode 1 starts around 1810 and we gradually progress with each episode. It is about Vincenzo Florio's life (1799-1868), and since the show spends a lot of time around his 30s and 40s, when all the interesting things happen in his life (love drama and all 😄), now that is why you see costumes from around that period mostly in the pictures.
My problem with the show was that they did't quite use the costume design enough tk show us how time progresses througout the series.
My favorite part of this video is the gorgeous, orange, Cat in the background of Angela’s portion. Thank you for creating the environment for such a lovely conversation.
Same!
Bernadette has trained me to wince at 1. stays and corsets worn without chemises, 2. modern hair and make-up in period pieces. Could be the most brilliantly scripted and acted piece but get the basic setting wrong and my finger is hovering over the off-button. Also, since these reviews have come out (once a year is fine) I have come to appreciate, if not love, historical Chinese and Korean dress. Are there more costume dramas from other Asian cultures to review? Absolutely fascinating.
Bernadette marking both of Marcus’ reviews in the wrong categories threw me through a loop. 😂
But Marcus’ reviews were hilarious and I need to see more of him. Especially as someone from the Caribbean.
I was doing something else when Marcus talked about twerking being huge in the 1820s and into the 1830s and was [record-scratch] WHAT? lolllll
Love these reviews! Two things that are jarring even when I know nothing much about historical costume are 1. when women have their hair down when that's completely wrong for the period, and 2. modern makeup styles. Could we have a little spin-off on historic makeup fashions? Please?
What's interesting is that the medieval western period and even in other parts of the world too in that similar time period seems to get the most outlandishly wrong. I'm almost certain it's what they think modern audiences are wanting to see and what directors want to do. They want the dungeons and dragons medieval fantasy fashion (lots of very theatrical but impractical items of clothing), but I also think Game of Thrones really set the tone for how studios want to frame this time period even through that show is 10000% fantasy. Anything beyond that they seem to actually try and make it historical.
Love these reviews. Enjoy listening to the comments. But my all-time favorite is Cheon-Shik Yang. I love to watch him, his dress is wonderful and I love how he just "plucks a proper item" while he's talking.
The only "award show" worth watching. The best way to ring in the new year.
I'm here because I'm a huge Good Omens fan; glad to see they did their historical research! Also learned something--I didn't know men wore corsets in 1820s UK!
I would love to see an in depth Good Omens review for both series!
Thanks for including the Ineffable Husbands! Crowley does indeed slay at all times. There also seem to be a number of people on the internets who are happy to imagine David Tennant in a corset . . . though I doubt historical accuracy is their primary concern. 😉
I was thinking that too 😂😂 I can only imagine the fanfic that would create 😂
putting them in a corset would have been such a good move for the character. the only reason I can think of as to why they didn't is to personally let us all down. Neil knows what he's doing
@@missvioletnightchild2515 Oh it already exists!
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@@theostrong3825 🤣
I like the format changes to bring in guest experts. Also it’s great when they don’t just say “this is wrong” but show what it ought to look like. By seeing what the period dress was like we the viewer are educated so we can see things better in the future, and appreciate *why* people of that time and location would not just wear the clothing but love to wear the clothing.
PS I love the Korean representation!
Always an enjoyable watch. I’m a little puzzled by the fact that ‘Killers of the Flower Moon’ wasn’t included in this years round up. Did I miss something? It does seem like they had a lot of consultation from Osage Nation experts in the production including in costuming and there are a few videos and articles showing this.
i was hoping she would cover it too! maybe she couldn't find/didn't know an expert willing to participate? but maybe it's cause it was too late in context of the video- the last one covered here is 1913 and KOTFM events were in the 1920s
Ah! What a surprise to see Minxie in this video repping Sugbo and Filipino historical fashion! 🔥🔥🔥 I learned a lot about my roots from her 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
Doesn’t feel like the new year until Bernadette uploads the annual costume **roast** i mean review anymore!
"I'm jaunty." Just destroyed me! Thank you for a wonderful global breakdown of historical dress.
I know it was very late in the year and mostly a fantasy but I would have love love LOVED to have seen your ranking for Poor Things. I was absolutely mesmerized by the way they threaded actual 1890s fashion in with the super over-the-top fantasy elements of Bella's costumes, and I would especially love to hear your thoughts on the background characters, who looked (to my hobbyist's eye) like they were pretty accurate to the 1890s.
Also they put Marc Ruffalo's character in a corset which made me think of this video lol.
I got Bingo at only 37:43 with "ye old eyebrows on fleek." 😅Love these yearly reviews! The Bingo Card was a fun touch.
As a Hungarian, I am very surprised and pleased to see Tündérkert included! It is actually a quite decent show, especially for such a tight budget. However, there are several things mentioned incorrectly about it in this video😀
Elizaberh Báthory is NOT a main VILLAINESS in the show! Firstly, she is a supporting character, secondly, she is not a villain! Why would this girl say that? Makes me think she hasn't seen the show at all, which would explain why she ranked it so low too. Also, she doesn't seem either Hungarian or Transylavian or Romanian, is this era and location truly her area of expertise?
The few pictures shown here are absolutely the worst parts of the show but many many good things were there too and not shown here. The show was a very mixed bag of bad party city costumes and very good rented costumes that were made for other shows set around this time. The men's costumes were much better than the women's, but even among the women's there are quite good ones. There was a wedding gown that had those typical patterns and front lacing shown in photos in this video too. There were some late Tudor style dresses rented from abroad, which makes sense, considering that some parts of the nobility preferred to imitate the Western fashion ( but got it always a few decades late) and didn't follow the Hungarian styles shown in the video.
Oh, and even Google Translate pronunced Tündérkert badly 😄
I personally think the Sisi/Empress Elisabeth media stuff has a lot to do with the 50s Sissi movies. Those are very fluffy movies, but very popular. Those used historically influenced 50s dresses, the whole 3 movies are basically Dior despite the fact that she lived through quite some fashion irl and was very fashionable elite. She even actually tight laced. We know that, she was obsessed with slenderness to a degree that it's probably a diagnosis nowadays.
And those movies probably influence the modern adaptations. So we get confused fashions.
I loved all the costumes and hats from the Lidia Poët series. I know my husband was tired of me swooning at each new scene. Thanks for the breakdown of the decade inaccuracies.
so much to unpack here! I always love these rankings also because they give many ideas for series/movies to watch, that would have gone unnoticed otherwise -the Polish one that was made as a series of paintings looks astonishing for example. I was almost expecting for Paris 1905 and The Nevers to get a Tis peak ranking.
The only thing I can say as suggestion is that the Gets the job done rank seems to gather a lot of nuances: some are really good with only one or two questionable details, others are in the "globally it gives the period but it falls on many details". This could explain why there are so many movies in that category, maybe it's worth splitting it in two somehow?
for "Chłopi" I would warn that it is not a happy or light story(bit of a misery porn if I'm being honest), especially if you're afab, def a watch for a day you have the mental space for that
my worse fear is when I finally become a costume designer and get a job in a period piece, I'll get torn to shreds by Bernadette ;-;. It will feel like mother being disappointed in me.
If you do your homework (and the director etc will let you do your job), you don't need to worry. 🙂
Yeah, honestly I feel like the facf you even care about it is a good start in comparison to a lot of the productions we see!! 😂
Huge thank you to all our highly knowledgeable (and hilarious) guests and my fellow watch team! 💖 Sin bingo at 1:01:49 😎
Loved the men's shirt you did a while back. I've been stoked for this video, too!
@mxheathcliff Thank you so much for all your work!
All hail Heathcliff, master of citations 👏
@@DannyBanner and all hail Danny, master of editing!
More healthcliff content and commentary please
This is so cool!! As a 1770s historical reenactor, I know a lot about my period dress but little else so I love seeing all the interviews and conversation across cultures and centuries.
I'd love to see a little more talk of men's hair though. For example, in the 18th century men's facial hair was extremely uncommon and frequently frowned upon. 2-3 days stubble at most. (This is a very big reenactor topic, because museums and battlefields with high standards like Minuteman National Historic Park are enforcing the no facial hair rule for us militia and regular soldiers.)
Fun story about the mullets mentioned on the bingo card-- mullets are weirdly enough most accurate for a specific group in 1777-- soldiers in General Burgoyne's army. They were ordered to cut their hair short (typically men's hair was long tied in a queue or clubbed) but then Burgoyne was superceded and ordered to have his men grow their hair back out but still cut the front because bangs are frustrating. Thus, mullets can be historically accurate in that particular case.