Is Israel losing the war in Gaza? | LBC analysis
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- čas přidán 15. 05. 2024
- National security adviser in the US, Jake Sullivan, said this week that military pressure is necessary but not sufficient to fully defeat Hamas. And the State Department added that Israel has a responsibility to connect their military operation to a truly clear strategic endgame.
As Hamas moves to guerrila warfare in Gaza, Andrew Marr is joined by Paola Caridi, author of Hamas: From Resistance to Regime (00:00), and Former Head of Britain's GCHQ, Sir David Omand (05.26) to discuss who could 'win' the conflict.
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Resistance occupation is not terrorism
Agree! Anyone today still thinks the Vietnamese didn't have the right to armed resistance against the French colonial master and American imperialist?
Well said.
You can't occupy your own land, read the old testament
Resistance to occupation isn't always terrorism but Hamas are definitely terrorists.
@@Bytheriversofbabylonhc exactly, and that's why it's called occupation, because Zionists settlers are occupying Palestine
Palestine has a right to defend itself
Palestinians should move to Qatar or Iran because they do not have their own country!
There never was and never will be a "Palestine".
@@carrerau7138What was it called before Israel was a state?
Mandatory Palestine.
@@Skygrey2943 Yes, Palestine was a region of Turkey for many centuries.
@carrerau7138 And Israel, with its people were last there in biblical times.
Greetings from Ireland .. BDS apartheid Israel .. Free Palestine!
sit down
Resistance against occupation is a right, not tewowism.
LBC, a subsidiary of Hamas PR Dept.
@@MikeAhern-199 So says a member of shin bet.
@@MikeAhern-199 Under International law, occupied people have a right to armed response. What they can not do is target civilians.
@@MikeAhern-199If I was you, I'd be more worried by the ICJ & ICC rather than LBC.
@@lucasmoreno5330 Israel has every right to defen itself against an murderous Islamic terror gang. And Israel always wins.. so get used to it.
‘Because of my religious convictions the government has endorsed my right to seize your private property’
and label your religion as bad because you don't want to peacefully hand over your property to me.
Zionist’s are not religious ..
most zionist are non religious
There's a word for those kind of people. Zealots
@@ChrisAlbertH47that word is too mild to describe them.
The occupation does not have a right to defend itself against the occupied.
Israel has a right to defend itself against terrorist attacks.
@@TheGeneReyva land theives don have a right to defend the land they stole
@@amrkhashaba9396 it isn't the Arab palistinian land either, they are descended from the Arabian peninsula. The jewish people have the right to their homeland, get over it.
Free Palestine .❤
Free Narnia too !!
Free The Fishermen from The Oppression and Harassment of China
The worst has yet to come for israel
Andrew is suprised hamas are still going.scott ritter has said from the start israel is losing.they were caught totally unaware.also israel is a conscription army they have to keep replacing troops .the same is happening in ukraine by end of the summer it will be over.
@@tomgallagher7870 spot on man
@@tomgallagher7870that's why they are building the pier. To allow American and British troops to fight Israels war. Watch this space.
@@MrPiccolop i agree..nothing is done for the benefit of palestinisns..bidens token words are to appeal to voters who are turning on him
Are you referring to international isolation, or terrorist attacks?
Resistance is not terrorism. West always proscribe these resistance groups as terrorist and shrug there responsibility off.
The French Resistance killed German soldiers. They would not have gone to the extremes Hamas did.
@@johnrussell3961 Tomahawk tribe in America was so badly destroyed by Captain Lincoln that chest of children and women were thrown open with conventional weapons of the time not to speak of man only. Go to algeria see the resistance against France there.
Hamas said they didn't target civilians. Also over the years before October 7 we can see the death tolls. Hamas mostly killed Israeli soldiers while idf killed civilians including many children.
The americans committed the biggest acts of terrorism by targeting civilians in japan with fire bombing and atomic bombing and yet today they are still not called terrorists when they fit the definition exactly since it was a use of threat and force against civilians to scare the people to bring about achieving a political goal.
@@johnrussell3961 I recommend you to visit ,when this settles, to Israel and Palestine and see for yourself what the Israeli forces a doing on daily basis to Palestinians. Or better you watch and listen to the speech given by Levy Gideon, an Israeli journalist, in 2015.
@@johnrussell3961 what Hamas do ?
Resistance is legal under international law
Palestinians should move to Qatar or Iran because they do not have their own country!
Yes, Israel is resisting the new Naatsees of the 21st century,
As if you care about international law
Thieves can never be an Owner
*By terrorists you mean the IDF right?* Or are you saying that Palestinians fighting for freedom are terrorist now? It's always those who have never fought for or lost people in liberation struggles who are quick to tell those who have how to resist or fight for freedom and always the quickest to throw labels like terrorist.
Hi there. Is that you Nelson Mandela?
@@MrSupermanbe Close, Robert Mugabe
The west have created weapons of mass terror.
Freedom for Palestine
Free 💩💩💩💩💩💩
Freedom from the so called Palestinians!!! Israel needs to go back and occupy Gaza again because that’s their land and the archeology is all from the Hebrew people. There is not such a thing as “Palestine archeology “ 🙄🙄🙄
Freedom means the 7th century settler-colonists must LEAVE FOREVER.
Who is terrorist here, the one fighting for his rights or the one abusing civilian?
According to the west, especially the US, UK and Germany, the victims are the terrorists.
Freedom fighters.
Palestinians should move to Qatar or Iran because they do not have their own country!
fighting for their own death cult.
@@user-wq6sz7vt3w Really? UN resolution 181/1947 says otherwise.
They will never beat Hamas have they learned nothing from their other illegal wars I'm referring to USA and UK specifically
Palestinians should move to Qatar or Iran because they do not have their own country!
Hamas is also illegal BTW. They violently took control of Gaza and refuse elections and commit acts of terrorism. They are not an armed resistance. They are a terrorist organisation.
Gaza n part of israel is thier land thats why everyone is sayin 2 state solution @user-wq6sz7vt3w
Gaza n part of israel is thier land thats why everyone is sayin 2 state solution @user-wq6sz7vt3w
Gaza n part of israel is thier land thats why everyone is sayin 2 state solution @user-wq6sz7vt3w
I'm confused, when you say fighting against the terrorist group who are you talking about ?
lol 😂
😂😂😂
I think the so called professor is likely referring to Israel.
Stop calling it a war.
Remember, Mandela was also considered a tewowist one day
He wasn’t taken off the tewowist list until 2013, the year of his death.
But Madela relented and called for an end to an armed struggle and became the symbol of reconciliation that led to peace. So please understand that history is complex and open to many interpretations and teachers (and even books) will be unintentionally selective and susceptible to confirmation bias.
If I recall correctly, Mandela didn't captured toddlers and old people from their homes, attacked a festival or called to elוmוnate all white people. Can't believe I need to explain to you that those things are bad.
@@Nov-5062 I agree, not that I think that you were referring to me.
@@martycrow yeah people lost their minds
THIS MAY HELP IF ISRAEL GET OUT OF PALESTINIAN LAND , if someone come in to land and took your home WHAT WOULD YOU DO
The 4000 year old, godsTorah says clearly to whom the land belongs , your to late the deeds been done
@@Bytheriversofbabylonhcif I recall the land was taken by invasion then .
These guys talk a lot, but can’t understand what occupation and resistance means. Obviously by choice.
(occupation) occupation of what?
@@MikeAhern-199Don’t be an idiot.
@@MikeAhern-199go back to sleep 💤
@@MikeAhern-199 territory outside of Israel’s borders….
@@mystery8207 Wished we'd known that in 1945 when UK & US invaded France, outside our borders. Naughty us.
Who are the terrorists?
Israel of course
The IDF au naturellement
Hummus
How is fighting against an occupying force terrorism?
The Imperial Empire are complaining that the Rebel Alliance are hard to defeat 🙄
so true
Like the Star Wars reference so true
How is Israel going to achieve peace with ones they deem as terrorist? It seems like Israel wants no resistance while they do such harm to a society that wants rights to live and grow to learn to succeed to pursue self interest, freedom of movement and be happy! It’s really a strange war, they are worried of people later retaliating, I think if they just stop and help them rebuild it’d change the narrative.!
Stop the war
Palestinian people are very kind because 75 years ago Palestinian gave shelter to Jews no one countries gave to them
The Jews were never welcomed hence why the conflict happened.
The Palestinians had no say. It was the British who allowed Jews in from 1919.
@@johnrussell3961 It has been Jewish land for thousands of years
This man is referencing a fictional show on Netflix. Are we supposed to have empathy for the IDF?
These people are a joke and they think we're a fool
What is the name of the show
@@Redone02 Fauda
Remember when the americunts said they would destroy the talibans in Afghanistan. How did that turn out?
Yes look at Afghanistan now. Basically a carsy
Talibans made a commitment on Anti-Terrorism so yeah, the deal is a deal for US and Taliban
I can relate to the reference to Sir Gerald Templer as my family lived through the period in Malaya, but unlike the British then, the Israelis have already lost the battle for hearts and minds in the last seven months.
No in the last 70 years.
No Isreal lost the battle for harts and minds in the 80s.
It was realised the terrorists needed the people to feed them. So the British isolated the people so they could not help them.
@@Mulberry2000, no one outside the region, or not paying attention to the issue, knew.
@@chrisspencer6502, no one outside the region, or not paying attention to the issue, knew.
Why are you calling hamas terrorists after all this murders and slaughter who is the criminals
Yeah, but to be fair, Hamas groups did use terrorist tactics against civilian targets back in October.
This Prediction was made back in November 😂😂 but dinosaur mainstream media hasn’t got clue and spout nonsense constantly repeating what there paymasters feed them
I'm sure the European colonials also gave equivalent labels to the Native Americans, Aboriginal Australians and every other people they wiped out.
It would only a matter of time before the IDF invaded Gaza , the 7th gave Netanyahu the excuse.
An excuse he aided by ignoring all the intelligence.
@johnrussell3961 surprise, surprise
If Israel wants to defeat Hamas, it must come to the negotiating table & recognise the right of Palestinians to have a state. The Northern Ireland peace agreement is a prime example of how to deal with militant organisations.
The people who fought for their freedom inherit the rights to participate in a democratic elections .
Losing???
Israel LOST the moment it responded in October like we all knew Israel would respond.
Last videos from gaza last days made me feel like it's the first days of the war , bit even worse regarding the loss among idf .. quite surprising
This war made me loose faith in humanity
Hamas has not made a tactical shift, you are trying to cover for Israel! Propaganda
Nelson Mandela was labelled as a terrorist too by UK and USA leaders. History repeats, different faces same tactics.
My first President, the Indonesian President Soekarno, was labelled as a terrorist by the Ducth government. And in our eyes, he was a freedom fighter. Really sick of this colonial mindset.
On more thing. Nelson Mandela was still on the US terrorisit list until 2008
Long life Palestinian InshaAllaah 🇪🇭 😪
Ameen
VIVA ISREAL
Why Israel does not accepts 2 state solution?
Because doing that caused Oct 7 to happen,
Does Palestine?
Yu need to talk to Scott Ritter
Scott Ritter talks nonsense.
As long as there is an occupation there will be resistance whether it is called Hamas or something else.
Shift to gorilla tactics ? Bro they never fought any other way 😂 ignorance
The only way for Israel to make Hamas irrelevant, is to give the people of Gaza A different path forward. It has been shown time & time again, you cannot destroy an idea, if you are not offering a different & better way forward.
We always said to Israel "you cannot destroy a ideology with weapons" but Israel won't listen😢
He’s talking about the IDF terrorising organisation.
If a country is occupied are the people defending it a resistance group or terrorist? Is a Government conceived by Irgun terror groups in 1947 a terrorist Government?
Its not a matter of who wins, its a matter of keeping it going for as long as possible
Defending is not terrorism. And it never started from 7th october.
Did these jokers just get a whole professor of war studies to come on and all he offered is a plug to a Netflix propaganda piece?
It is unfair British to call Palestine resistance terrorist group really unfair Britain still have mentality of colonizer as they where
If we in Britain can call colonisers those who move from a part of the world to the U.K. that have no connection, history, or culture with the U.K. and its people…. I mean at least Israel can say that they have been claiming Israel as their ancestral land for centuries.
How can u defeat those who have the right to fight occupation
The West hasn't come out of the colonial imperialism mindset yet, even among alot of their people. All past 80 years were just lies, we still living in the European imperialism era. And the struggle still on.
The “thinking” of your “expert” here is the root cause. He has a fundamental lack of understanding of the problem. For someone who is an expert in war studies, he seems quite ignorant!
Resistance against occupation is not terrorism
The 7th October would never have happened if the European zoinest had to stay in Britain where they came from 😳 what is the European zoinest doing in the middle east 😳 from the African continent
What did you think happened in WW2? Talk about mind-blowing ignorance.
Who says they're loosing, check your speach. They lost already.
they are losing the moral war they are giving these innocent people no where to go not letting enough aid in they have cornered them yes its hard because Hamas are also using them awful
Controlling borders, imports, exports, power, water, etc. During peacetime is also considered an occupation. I've heard many people say there was no occupation. Gaza was free. No, it wasn't. If you control the infrastructure and everything around it, it's an occupation
Do the children who have been orphaned by Israel have a right to retaliate?
They're not terrorists !!! They are the Palestinian Defense Forces.
How do governments decide a group is a "terrorist" without consulting its population
When was the last time a conventional army beat a resistance guerilla group?
I’d love to understand the host’s understanding of terrorism and how it doesn’t apply to Israel?
Under International law, an occupied people have the right to resist and the right to take up arms.
West must stop saying resistance force terrorist.
Look at Vietnam and Algeria if you want to see how THIS anti-colonial struggle will end.
Yes they have lost and will never win the land of Palestine’s
Israel has not achieved a single military objective they stated before going in Gaza. Ofcourse they are losing.
CZcams censorship is abhorrent!!
Perpetuating lies about tunnels! Why is no one talking about the land grab since 1947?
If you call Hamas terrorists then say the sama about Israel.. no ifs no buts.
Where was the heaviest equiped army in oct 7
Ppl defending their children fight harder than forced child soilders
Thank you for hosting such an informed guest. Relief to listen to real information.
As america how did Iraq or Afghan turns out, they will tell you it's impossible to "defeat" insurgency. Also literally cannot stop people for yearning for freedom.
Thank you for this excellent analysis. The expert from King's College is absolutely right. Israel's catastrophic mistake over the years has been to imagine military might is the only way to defeat their enemies. It has simply achieved the opposite - Hamas, Islamic Jihad & Hezbollah have thrived on the destruction and the countless civilian lives lost due to Israeli heavy-handedness, including the harsh treatment of Palestinians living in the occupied territories. This has just increased mistrust and hatred on both sides. If Israel wants to win the peace, it needs to focus on the Palestinian people and take into account their legitimate rights and aspirations. Until some measure of trust and mutual recognition is achieved, there can be no lasting peace.
To end the resistance simply end the occupation 🤷🏻♂️
The real question is how does the international community castrates Isreal, forces it to adhere international law, UN resolutions 🤔 otherwise the situation continues to repeat itself as it has been for several decades 🧐
Obviously they are hard to defeat they are fighting for their faith, familly, home and everything they love. They will fight to the end. Free Palestine 🇵🇸
People from The South East Asian Region are also fighting against Chinese Oppression at the seas
P.S - Mrbeast is winning the war against T-Series
Engage in diplomaric talks and accept the political reality. That's how simple is the answer to the question,
'What should Isreal do now?'. Why are political and military 'experts' are in such 'moral quandary'?!!!
American settlers were considered terrorist when they fought for their silly illegal independence from the British.. 😂
Why not tell Ukraine to stop fighting against Russia because Russia is still fighting against Ukraine. The US has had better administrators than this current one. To say the least.
Please stop calling them a terrorist group in the very introduction. That’s your and your bosses’ opinion.
The Israelis should learn from the French and the Americans in Vietnam and the Jewish resantance in Poland in WW2 ..
They have just increased recruitment.
You can't steal land eventually u have to return it because u didn't even buy it
fighting against for your homeland isnt terrorism they fight for thier home land
Isrsel isn’t losing but it has already lost.
If your playing chess and you have absolutely no strategic ability to win, do you keep playing until you run out of peices or do you accept defeat and move on?
Israel wants to keep playing untill the west has no more money left.
A vital point hidden in smokescreen: they let 10/7 happened
Israeal .lost the war since oct 7
The key for the brits was to stay home and stop stealing other lands
What's the story with the thumbnail? Is Andrew interviewing himself or suffered a bout of schizophrenia?
What war? What terrorists?
Mr Marr, did Ashley give you permission to suggest that Israel might lose?
this fight will never end
It purely Netanyahu war who is using isreal soldiers as pawns to remain in power to avoid being jailed for his several criminal acts.otherwise there would be no war.
A resistance group is different from a terrorist group.
They’re just defending their land….